Broo it's the stupidest looking and old tech car with stupid pricing like no one's gonna pay 14 lakhs for that , it's a bit too much with very less security , if it would have been at a price point around 8 lakhs then it would have made it into a phenomenon but at this pricing it's shit
@@futureminds9742 @ArpanMukhopadhyay93 if you are worried about an accident, you should probably take a bus or a train to be safer. You know the kicker, even when they meet with an accident still there's no guarantee for your life....lol
@@futureminds9742 we all know that a true 4x4 is expensive and cannot be offered below 12 lakh rs. Looks are subjective so won't comment on that. Yes the transmission is a generation old but the tech is proven and one can find 100s of reviews of this goat on the internet. Finally, the practicality is better than that in the thar. Until the thar 5 door arrives, the jimny is the only 4*4 option for families.
Jimny is doing all that thar did but with highway tyres, really really impressive. Big slap to those who compare it with espresso, Gypsy can finally pass it's throne to jimny
Anyone that takes an Spresso over this for offroad is tempting fate and is taking being a cheapskate to new ridiculous heights. The Spresso can deal with a bad pothole, not climb up a mountain.
@DarthVader-vh5yq It is clearly evident you are not even able to buy an alto till date in your life, hello keyboard warrior Jimny known for its capability internationally and now 5 door has proven its worth so your immature statement doesn't count
@@Lakshmidasaa For mee too, I had seen it from Kuwait. It was absolutely beautiful, the it was having good on road presence. Seeing Jimny on Indian roads seems like it's not worth it. I was waiting for jimny to be launched here now I feels like It ain't meant for Indian roads and terrains. It would have been better if they were to launch a 3 door version.
Watching Nikhil’s reviews and comparisons is a pleasure, as he isn’t the i-know-it-all guy, and feels like a friend explaining the features of her/his new car.
@@FGAMERZ07 power to weight ratio is also a thing. This is the reason why Hummers are garbage even though they put 6.2 litre V8 engine in their offroaders.
Start doing more comparisons than reviews. There are so many sub 4 meter soft roaders out there. You guys could have a 7 SUV showdown or similar and compare them side by side before picking a winner
@@goldy8556 That's the most lamest as well as sexist comment. If you call yourself a REAL man then try driving a Stock Maruti Gypsy without diff locks, without lift kits and without AT tires.
@@ajx5840you'd be surprised by how many people did exactly that. There's plenty of low run Thar's on sale because owners misjudged the ride quality and practicality. Makes real good financial sense to get one from the pre owned market
My perception of the Jimny has changed significantly with this video. Good job, Nikhil! I've realized that the Jimny is a hugely capable SUV and shouldn't be underestimated for it diminutive size. I'll pick it any day over the Thar. I just wish the Jimny had an engine with nearly Thar levels of performance, in which case it would just fly with its light weight. Now I'd just like to see a comparison with the Gurkha :) :)
Naturally, the powerful engine paired with the light body would make jimny an absolute beast for off-roading. Thar is great and has the "road presence" most people want but in a straight up off road battle, I think Jimny takes the cake.
No the light weight tin box will brake into pieces with thars engine 😂 it's just a cheap tin box with big shokers 😂 it won't score 1 star in global ncap no safety what so even the platics in the vehicle will break and fall of in few off road runs and the vehicle shock absorbers will cost a fortune to repair and I promise they will need a ton of repair 😂
The Jimny is a very accomplished and a proper VFM product. Those with more moolah can go for a Thar. It's absolutely amazing to see how different the Jimny is from the original Gypsy. The Jimny may not be very large but it sure is very agile.
If you see the evolution of the Jimny from an international perspective, then you can see how it slowly developed into how it looks right now. India only got one generation of it, so it feels weird.
I have both Thar Automatic 4×4 Diesel & Jimny automatic 4x4 Alpha,...... my verdict is jimny is practical and can be had if you have to keep single vehicle..... but Thar must be the second vehicle in your house.... if Jimny may had priced 2 Lakh cheaper, it would have had created miracles in term of sales..... whereas Thar is very punching and peppier but a bit stiff in ride.... on the other hand Jimny is a bit slow but very comfortable, and best in city traffic..... my suggestion to mahindra is to fit the 4×2 Thar Diesel engine (1.5 litre, 4 cylinder engine) in Bolero Neo (TUV 300) and make 4×4 Automatic Bolero Neo, which will give big fight to Jimny and even Thar.....
Plz no ...i just bought the neo... Cant afford to sale this 🤣... Nyways they wont do that....cause this would canibalize the thar as well the scorpio N z4 sales
@@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub if buyers are cross-shopping between a similar 3 door product and a 5 door product......Media houses are obliged to compared them.
All-terrain tires vs. Tarmac tires - Choosing the right tires can make a huge difference! All-terrain for off-road adventures, while tarmac tires excel on smooth roads!
Also jimny with lower ground clearance and articulation, can bottom out more than that, But for my use case, jimny makes more sense as I don't do hardcore off roading, I can be sure that jimny won't get stuck and can be used on a day to day basis, So it makes much more sense to spend 2 lakh less and buy jimny. At least it doesn't challenge my intelligence by offering rear parking camera as an accessory.
Really recommending the original 3 door Jimny to be launched in India. Real compact, rugged, cute and durable vehicle which ahould be introduced in India atleast in limited numbers for every year in a limited quantity of 5000 units in both ZETA & ALPHA in both manual and automatic. If we see everything only based on practicality and for families there will not be real good vehicles in India. There should be option for the people in India for the 3 door Jimny. Recommending all auto journalists and people of India to request to Maruthi Suzuki to launch 3 door Jimny in India.
So true. They are anyway making it here. Make it limited edition or something, give diff lockers and may be a centre diff. Perfect toy for people who enjoy off road.
The three door Jimny is pointless in the face of the 5 door when the 5 door is better in all ways. The only downside with the 3 door is that the backseats of the 5 door dont have that rough back plastic coating to make it easier to slide in loads and put in things that could easily scratch the fabric.
@@mindfreeze0838There is no use in arguing with people of ur kind of mindset where the huge number of Indian population see everything based only on value and cost and practicality. Thats why the enthusiasts in India are not able to enjoy the good things which are available all over the world in more than 190 countries as 3 door Jimny. Where the 5 door was developed for Indian families in mind who think they only need to be considered. As I said before this should be launched in limited numbers in India. Nobody is forcing you to take 3 door Jimny. There are some consumers who like the original correctly propotioned internationally available one, not the stretched 5 door one.
@@tijokurian3820 if I were to look at the motoring media landscape and make an assessment on the mindset of the average Indian consumer I would believe they are rabid petrol heads that want even 7 seat MPV's to have a 0-100kph time of less than 5 seconds so your argument cuts both ways. Internationally one of the main complaints about the Jimny was its lack of practicality in the boot. It should also be noted that no one seems to know yet if markets that offer the 3 door will discontinue it for the 5 door, however I dont think its feasible as those markets have customers cutting their orders for the 3 door in favour of the 5 door. Look both cars drive roughly the same and the market is not there worldwide for the 3 door. If you really, really want the 3 door youll have to get it on your own.
@@mindfreeze0838 Enlighten me to come to real world that only the engineers in India had the brains to make other people think about practicality and make the majority of the people think and change their decision all over the world that the real deal is a 5 door Jimny. The designers and engineers from 1970 until 2018 didnt have the capability and foresight to think about India but for all the other countries they had no qualms.
Thar looks huge ! However, despite its ‘hugeness’, no luggage space and a hassle to access the rear seat. Jimny, while diminutive, it has fairly good boot space and moderately usable back seats.
Great review, Nikhil, as always. A couple of quick points: steering knuckle design on solid axles vis-a-vis independent front suspension results in larger turning radius for Jimny. Thar's plastic roof is a no no in my book and Thar's portly weight and dimensions clearly are a handicap on the ruff stuff. I wish Jimny came with a six speed torque converter though. For people living in the hills Jimny is a better bet and for the folks in the plains Thar is the way to go. Overall Jimny seems to be a better engineered product.
I have a thar and the back seat comfort with the recliner is amazing. And good leg knee and head room. ( I’m 5.10 body builder). I can’t understand how it’s looking super small to this fellow
This is why I love the Jimny. It's very capable even without any mods. I have a 2015 3 door Jimny and have driven most of the big 4x4 tracks in Australia. Simpson Desert, Cape York, Canning Route etc. I left it completely stock running the cheapest highway terrains I could find. Never had a puncture or struggled offroad.
Better be late then never 😊. Much awaited. It appeared everyone including media journalist lost interest after its price reveal and heart break leading to 90% odd cancellation of bookings 💔 ( including us )
Why? Theres no market for 3 Door vehicles in India on top of that with such Kei car like dimensions and the first Offroad ladder on frame product from Suzuki after decades of selling efficient hatchbacks? Too risky
@@amogus9440 We just say there is no market for 3 door cars. But people prefer them as a secondary car like a daily commuter in cities... That's how the Thar 3 door version still rules the market. Maybe you're right about Suzuki's safe game play to launch it in 5 doors. But if they had launched both 5 and 3 door versions, jimny would have been a deal breaker...
@@chintureddy9254 yes. That could be true. But this body on frame chassis SUVs are targeted more on that 1% crowd who live in hilly areas or bad road regions, others would prefer monocoque SUVs. 5 door jimny is still not practical for those 1% crowd. I still remember people, who live in hilly regions, modify their bolero truck for better commuting in their day to day life.
All in all, I feel the Jimny is priced a bit too high for what it offers. Both performed exceptionally well off-road, and I didn’t see the Jimny showing any clear advantage over the Thar. However, most people won’t be taking these off-road as much as one might think, and their use might be limited to that of a rugged lifestyle SUV feel that many want to experience while living in the urban jungle, and that’s where the Thar clearly WINS, with its large size, imposing stance and a commanding seating position, which are the aspects most would care about. Even the reasonably priced 4X2 Thar provides all these things, and so for me… THAR IS THE WINNER HERE.
Not too high, manual variants are cheap compared to automatic. People are losing their mind when they are seeing top model automatics or automatic variants in general. Also you're not gonna do much with a 4x2 when the roads are slushy or muddy.
So you want a car that looks tough but isnt? Look at something else, this will only give a short term thrill and before long when the hype generated dies down youre back again looking for that next new car status high.
I agree the Jimny is a bit overpriced. However you clearly forgot to mention many points- 1. You are incorrect about the stance one. People (who are buying their vehicles for a purpose and not showoff) are searching for vehicles which are light and small but yet have good amount of usable space.. The Thar is wider than an Endeavor and is bigger than Jimny in every dimension hence making it much heavier which i s a disadvantage in Offloading. And yet its second row is unusable, it doesn't have a boot space too. 2. Thar RWD? Why not buy a Compact SUV like Nexon instead or Bolero Neo? An offroad vehicle built on a rugged ladder on frame chassis with its own demerits compared to the Urban Compact SUVs interms of space, practicality, ride quality, handling etc, all sacrificed for Offroad and yet doesn't get the main offloading feature, 4x4. It's literally an embarrassing show off varient.
Jimny is a reliable offroader and the quality is par excellence compared to Mahindra Thar. Thar is bumpy, has quality gitches, interiors aren’t up to the mark, above all its just a weekend call… Jimny can be used as a regular car of the house with weekend offroading.
Considering how bad the stock thar suspension setup is and how little articulation is there I think jimny clearly trumps over thar in almost every way except the road presence. But hey they are Off roaders so presence on road kinda feels irrelevant. But most of the mahindra Bois can't accept this fact mentioned above and call everyone who points out cons of thar a Korean fan.
The Thar has absolutely demolished the Jimny in every offroad test. Engine with a little more power than a lawnmower. Looks like a midget in comparison, why would you buy it?
MANEUVERABILITY :THAR ENGINE REFINEMENT AND Performance :THAR Road presence :THAR CONFIDENCE:THAR And wait for GNCAP TEST OF JIMMY U CAN SEE SUBSTANTIAL Difference BETWEEN INDIAN UNIT AND GLOBAL UNIT
@@comeoniknoweverything8227 lol thar did'nt demolished anything in any test moreover jimny did all that wil slim 195 section highway tyre. Mountain GOAT is here to rule again
@DarthVader-vh5yq No one gives a fuck, we are not keyboard warrior like you. People are not throwing away 16-17 lakhs just to prove nationalism which is fake to the core. Take your psuedo-nationalism somewhere else and get some education. Mahindra is a private company not a government run ngo
With the 5 door thar scheduled for next year, lets see what chnges does Mahindra does to make it competitive to jimny, cause it needs it else Jimny is clear in comfort and features. Engine aside i feel Jimny has it all. Although the looks of thar are too good to resist.
Thats what cars of this class cost these days and in India the price isnt bad, compare it to other markets that just have the 3 door and its night and day
Arey Jimny ko agar 1 lacs main bhi launch karey toh tumko fir bhi disappointed hi lagega..... Samjhe yeh pricing ki galti nhi hai yeh tumahari dimagi santulan thora hil gya hai...
Right now, Jimny Alpha Manual is available for 9.9 lakhs ex-showroom which is a steal deal for this small almost wagon r sized tubby car. Its not a macho car like the thar and neither does it have the road presence, but for the price, its a good steal deal.
There is no comparison. Thar is an allout offroader but it's not for the city roads and is not your daily driver. So, anyone who lives in the city and goes for that one picnic trip on the outskirts each year should get a jimny.
What about the faulty buttons for the AC blower,,which ever button u press air leaks through the vent on the dash and foggs the glass!!! Even present on brand new thars being delivered 😮😮
If you really want to compare, put same tyres on both vehicles. Tyres are very important aspect, especially in rainy conditions. Change of tyres can change the performance upside down! With different tyres, sorry but this comparo makes very less sense.
Maruti tried to make an all rounder while Thar targeted a very specific audiance and I think there maruti miscalculated. As you say in the end, Jimny will do well as the sole car of your household. But is there anyone who buys these kind of cars if they already dont own any car?
I wish Mahindra delayed Thar launch after resolving the busy ride & Maruti launched this variant atleast a decade ago. Hoping to see Maruti addressing these gaps in the refreshed Jimny. Its sad to see Tata out of the race….
I haven't understood why Tata hasn't created a real hardcore offroader as a successor to the old Safari (perhaps under a "Sumo" badge?). After all, they can count on the design expertise of JLR to create one.
@@vineethg6259 what to say! There were discussions around this topic after Pratap Bose moved out. They have Yodha/Xenon platform, JLR platform. We need only 3 vehicles from them, a regular pickup for commercial purpose, a premium lifestyle pickup (4*2, 4*4, with automatic transmissions) and a proper luxurious 7 seater SUV.
Really comprehensive review!! I've always been a fan of the Jimny over the Thar, the Jimny feels like a more practical and complete package for an off-roader and can be driven as a daily driver too. The design of the Thar does not appeal to me as much and I'm happy to see a rival from suzuki that feels just right for both off-road and on-road driving. 👌
Many of the buyers of these cars will drive it from home to office, so it doesn't even matter and people are just going for either hype or road presence.
Superb review! To me, Jimny offers originality, cute looks, and its design shows the DNA of Gypsy. Thar, on the other hand, while having a better engine, is a blatant design copy of Jeep Wrangler. A legal battle with Jeep in international court, that Mahindras lost and eventually faced a ban for export of Thar to most of the first world countries. To me, while the engine is important, originality and creativity come first. Mahindras, sorry, but you lack originality, so I am going with the Jimny. 😊
People need to understand that both these and such other products are not lifestyle products. They aren't meant for your home to office/gym/shop type trips. Buying for such use cases is just stupid showoff. That too not of money but only of being a wannabe.
Bhaisahab, loon kaunsa gaddi? I was waiting eagerly for this review, now I'm more confused at the end. Or should I just go for the C3 Aircross? Or should I wait for the Gncap rating and then go ahead with the best option?
Try and do the body flex test when the vehicles are sea sawing the next time. Let's see if the doors open and shut properly and how rigid is the shell.
@DarthVader-vh5yqIt wont. Im more worried that the Thar's front wheels are gonna scrap the wheel wall, the Hard top of the Thars gonna leak, the electronics are gonna fail and it will topple easily like the recent cases of hatchbacks flipping it easily.
Jimny is best because company consider about off road.. When the word off road show the meaning it mean small road and moody and congestion area. And sometimes if the jimny get stock you can oush it by only two or single people not like thar is too big and heavy material but useless things.. Jimny is best quality for outside the body is Very good built quality...
Very well presented review accurate in content, fluent and fluid in verbal presentation and with palpable control over the use of English language. Good work!
So problem with thar is yeah milegi nah 😂 I called three showrooms and I guess all Mahindra showroom have a simple concept of making cm fool waiting period 1.5 years but if I pay premium 1 lakh I will get it in 7 days ????
The Jimmy needs wider tires. It’ll look even better then and it’s off road ability will be greatly improved. I guess Maruti sticks on these puny tires to keep the cost down.
Firstly to the persons out there that say the Jimny is more expensive because of the 4x2 Thar, congratulations youre a poser because buying a car like this just for the looks is a case study on being vapid and an exercise in the pointless. Maruti was sharp with the pricing against the Thar practically undercutting the Thar where it counts. If you want the most practical(and in this class thats saying alot)and easier to live with car its the Jimny, if you want one that may win you a drag race(which is just really stupid) then get the Thar. Both are the best offroad with the Jimny eeking out a little more performance due to its compact size and weight.
In a society driven by budget conscious customers ,what we reall need at the moment is a bolero size car with the engine and capability of a gypsy.Jimny is perfect for miniscule number of off-road enthusiasts but not for India.thats where Suzuki India got it all wrong.we need bigger bootspace,wider 3 seater backseat.and there is the perfect all rounder .Bolero easily demolished.
5:28 When other manufacturers of ESC used in 4WD drive mode need only a fraction of a full turn to activate,Because the Jimny needs 4-5 full turns to activate. When the AllGrip finally activates the Jimny is at a full stop. I am told that the computer of the Jimny comes from a motorcycle… Anyhow, it reacts faaaar too late. - This is why one diff-locker or two is very beneficial for the Jimny. Because its computer system is probably running MS-DOS or Windows 95…! Meaning - The 4WD AllGrip is pretty good but not as good as a similar systems from Toyota, Mitsubishi, Mazda, or a F:ing Range Rovers. But with one or two diff-lockers the Jimny will beat all of them.
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Need a thar petrol mld 2021 comparison with thar petrol bld after 2021
I need buy a off roader
And can mahindra provide mld as option in petrol
What about safety rating of jimmy
where is force gurkha??
Where is ghurkha
Jimny... Aaaja aja.... 😂😁😝👏👏👍
The jimny seems like a no nonsense, no showoff car. It will take you anywhere, will last you forever, and is much more practical for your family.
Broo it's the stupidest looking and old tech car with stupid pricing like no one's gonna pay 14 lakhs for that , it's a bit too much with very less security , if it would have been at a price point around 8 lakhs then it would have made it into a phenomenon but at this pricing it's shit
Agreed. Only problem I think is it will take one out of the world too in case of a crash
@@futureminds9742 @ArpanMukhopadhyay93 if you are worried about an accident, you should probably take a bus or a train to be safer. You know the kicker, even when they meet with an accident still there's no guarantee for your life....lol
@@futureminds9742 we all know that a true 4x4 is expensive and cannot be offered below 12 lakh rs.
Looks are subjective so won't comment on that. Yes the transmission is a generation old but the tech is proven and one can find 100s of reviews of this goat on the internet. Finally, the practicality is better than that in the thar. Until the thar 5 door arrives, the jimny is the only 4*4 option for families.
Those slim wagonr like doors in jimny is not safe
Jimny is doing all that thar did but with highway tyres, really really impressive. Big slap to those who compare it with espresso, Gypsy can finally pass it's throne to jimny
Anyone that takes an Spresso over this for offroad is tempting fate and is taking being a cheapskate to new ridiculous heights. The Spresso can deal with a bad pothole, not climb up a mountain.
@DarthVader-vh5yq It is clearly evident you are not even able to buy an alto till date in your life, hello keyboard warrior Jimny known for its capability internationally and now 5 door has proven its worth so your immature statement doesn't count
Actually I was a fan of jimny in Dubai.... But when I see it on road, it was not looking good in Indian background....( direct view)
@@Lakshmidasaa For mee too, I had seen it from Kuwait. It was absolutely beautiful, the it was having good on road presence. Seeing Jimny on Indian roads seems like it's not worth it. I was waiting for jimny to be launched here now I feels like It ain't meant for Indian roads and terrains. It would have been better if they were to launch a 3 door version.
Parley biscuit pack can be crushed easily
Watching Nikhil’s reviews and comparisons is a pleasure, as he isn’t the i-know-it-all guy, and feels like a friend explaining the features of her/his new car.
+1.
And he is just under 6 feet tall
@@San-ux8kf lol🤣
@@San-ux8kfI was about to say that
Jimny : Well engineered, tested and reliable product!
Thar : Showoff
Power entered the chat
@@FGAMERZ07 mileage left the chat
@@FGAMERZ07 power doesnt matter the jimny literally destroyed big ass hummer even though the sherp has only 50 hp 200 nm torque
@@FGAMERZ07 power to weight ratio is also a thing. This is the reason why Hummers are garbage even though they put 6.2 litre V8 engine in their offroaders.
This has got to be the most comprehensive review out there. Hats off man.
Start doing more comparisons than reviews. There are so many sub 4 meter soft roaders out there. You guys could have a 7 SUV showdown or similar and compare them side by side before picking a winner
They’ve done it before
@@sravans149yep
On it!
@@sravans149 yes
@@autocarindia1 You can start off with a Thar vs Gurkha vs Jimny shootout.
When camera is inside jimny, it works ok with minimal shake. When it is inside thar, it shakes like it is fixed to an umbrella in the beach 😂😂
@praveenpgec , jimny is for women and thar is for Real men.😅
@@goldy8556 That's the most lamest as well as sexist comment. If you call yourself a REAL man then try driving a Stock Maruti Gypsy without diff locks, without lift kits and without AT tires.
@@goldy8556you seem to be a true auto enthusiast 🥹💀
@@goldy8556Thar is for Gay men , while Jimmy is for Real Men
@@goldy8556 Real men don't rely on their tool, they use their skills.
If you must buy the thar, buy it second hand from people who thought their family would be happy with this car.
Why would anyone will buy thar as a family vehicle
@@ajx5840 In case they did and you find one, you get a pretty under-used car for less money 🤣
Lol
@@ajx5840you'd be surprised by how many people did exactly that.
There's plenty of low run Thar's on sale because owners misjudged the ride quality and practicality. Makes real good financial sense to get one from the pre owned market
For those who wanna see what truly jimny is capable of watch foreign videos with offroad tyres, then you'll don't even compare it with thar 😂
My perception of the Jimny has changed significantly with this video. Good job, Nikhil! I've realized that the Jimny is a hugely capable SUV and shouldn't be underestimated for it diminutive size. I'll pick it any day over the Thar. I just wish the Jimny had an engine with nearly Thar levels of performance, in which case it would just fly with its light weight. Now I'd just like to see a comparison with the Gurkha :) :)
Turbo Kits are available for that
It will literally start flying because it's light weight tin ka daba 😂😂 no global ncap rating probably 0star 😂
Naturally, the powerful engine paired with the light body would make jimny an absolute beast for off-roading. Thar is great and has the "road presence" most people want but in a straight up off road battle, I think Jimny takes the cake.
No the light weight tin box will brake into pieces with thars engine 😂 it's just a cheap tin box with big shokers 😂 it won't score 1 star in global ncap no safety what so even the platics in the vehicle will break and fall of in few off road runs and the vehicle shock absorbers will cost a fortune to repair and I promise they will need a ton of repair 😂
@@ind-rishiyt1600 those safety tests irrelevant for hills and mountains
The Jimny is a very accomplished and a proper VFM product. Those with more moolah can go for a Thar.
It's absolutely amazing to see how different the Jimny is from the original Gypsy.
The Jimny may not be very large but it sure is very agile.
If you see the evolution of the Jimny from an international perspective, then you can see how it slowly developed into how it looks right now. India only got one generation of it, so it feels weird.
@DarthVader-vh5yqGet off your phone lmao.
What's moolah sht.. ?
A Hindu company 😭 .
@DarthVader-vh5yq worst offroader now was updated BOOHiNDRA THAARRR 🤣🤣🤣
I have both Thar Automatic 4×4 Diesel & Jimny automatic 4x4 Alpha,...... my verdict is jimny is practical and can be had if you have to keep single vehicle..... but Thar must be the second vehicle in your house.... if Jimny may had priced 2 Lakh cheaper, it would have had created miracles in term of sales..... whereas Thar is very punching and peppier but a bit stiff in ride.... on the other hand Jimny is a bit slow but very comfortable, and best in city traffic..... my suggestion to mahindra is to fit the 4×2 Thar Diesel engine (1.5 litre, 4 cylinder engine) in Bolero Neo (TUV 300) and make 4×4 Automatic Bolero Neo, which will give big fight to Jimny and even Thar.....
Jimny can't do offroad without revving up
Plz no ...i just bought the neo... Cant afford to sale this 🤣... Nyways they wont do that....cause this would canibalize the thar as well the scorpio N z4 sales
Chal jhootha 😂
Bolero neo weights like 1600 kg, its slow af in rwd format adding 4x4 will further increase weight by 100 to 150 kg
@@AspirantKanishka Thar cant do off-road at all
Well Balanced review from Autocar.
I think Jimmy would be a good choice for a young family fond of Driving holidays.
The professional and proficient nature of Autocar reviews is what makes them one of the best.
Sure. 'Professionally' comparing a 3 door with a 5 door car.
@@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub if buyers are cross-shopping between a similar 3 door product and a 5 door product......Media houses are obliged to compared them.
I believe jymny is overpriced for its engine capacity. If four seats utilization is not the priority, then better to go for thar😊.
Lol 😂
@@VKP-i5i 🤔
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Can't be when both thar and jimny produce same p2w figures.
@@debasisghadai3633 I don't think both p/w ratio is same.
All-terrain tires vs. Tarmac tires - Choosing the right tires can make a huge difference! All-terrain for off-road adventures, while tarmac tires excel on smooth roads!
Team jimny✋🏽
More practicality, better power to weight ratio, Better suspension and can open fuel tank from inside.
Go little rockstar 💫
Power to weight ratio is same for cars (0.087 PS / KG )
Also jimny with lower ground clearance and articulation, can bottom out more than that,
But for my use case, jimny makes more sense as I don't do hardcore off roading,
I can be sure that jimny won't get stuck and can be used on a day to day basis,
So it makes much more sense to spend 2 lakh less and buy jimny.
At least it doesn't challenge my intelligence by offering rear parking camera as an accessory.
@@christophercolumbusmlg9354 Jimny - 103/1195 = 0.086
Thar - 130/1750 = 0.074
How come they've same p/w ratio?
@@4x4TV101 why are you comparing Petrol jimny with Diesel Thar, petrol Thar has 150 hp
@@christophercolumbusmlg9354 I was comparing top models, alpha AT and LX AT diesel
Very good observation 👍
The one who doesn't have a good road presence surprisingly won the race! 😆😆
Really recommending the original 3 door Jimny to be launched in India. Real compact, rugged, cute and durable vehicle which ahould be introduced in India atleast in limited numbers for every year in a limited quantity of 5000 units in both ZETA & ALPHA in both manual and automatic. If we see everything only based on practicality and for families there will not be real good vehicles in India. There should be option for the people in India for the 3 door Jimny. Recommending all auto journalists and people of India to request to Maruthi Suzuki to launch 3 door Jimny in India.
So true. They are anyway making it here. Make it limited edition or something, give diff lockers and may be a centre diff. Perfect toy for people who enjoy off road.
The three door Jimny is pointless in the face of the 5 door when the 5 door is better in all ways. The only downside with the 3 door is that the backseats of the 5 door dont have that rough back plastic coating to make it easier to slide in loads and put in things that could easily scratch the fabric.
@@mindfreeze0838There is no use in arguing with people of ur kind of mindset where the huge number of Indian population see everything based only on value and cost and practicality. Thats why the enthusiasts in India are not able to enjoy the good things which are available all over the world in more than 190 countries as 3 door Jimny. Where the 5 door was developed for Indian families in mind who think they only need to be considered.
As I said before this should be launched in limited numbers in India.
Nobody is forcing you to take 3 door Jimny. There are some consumers who like the original correctly propotioned internationally available one, not the stretched 5 door one.
@@tijokurian3820 if I were to look at the motoring media landscape and make an assessment on the mindset of the average Indian consumer I would believe they are rabid petrol heads that want even 7 seat MPV's to have a 0-100kph time of less than 5 seconds so your argument cuts both ways. Internationally one of the main complaints about the Jimny was its lack of practicality in the boot. It should also be noted that no one seems to know yet if markets that offer the 3 door will discontinue it for the 5 door, however I dont think its feasible as those markets have customers cutting their orders for the 3 door in favour of the 5 door. Look both cars drive roughly the same and the market is not there worldwide for the 3 door. If you really, really want the 3 door youll have to get it on your own.
@@mindfreeze0838 Enlighten me to come to real world that only the engineers in India had the brains to make other people think about practicality and make the majority of the people think and change their decision all over the world that the real deal is a 5 door Jimny. The designers and engineers from 1970 until 2018 didnt have the capability and foresight to think about India but for all the other countries they had no qualms.
Life with Thar is very lonely and depressing. Aged parents simply cannot climb into Thar for a family adventures. So I would never buy Thar.
Thar looks huge ! However, despite its ‘hugeness’, no luggage space and a hassle to access the rear seat. Jimny, while diminutive, it has fairly good boot space and moderately usable back seats.
Fantastic knowledge based review and 100% marks to your Video Grapher.
Keep it up.
Really? 🤦 The offroad knowledge is dismal.
Great review, Nikhil, as always. A couple of quick points: steering knuckle design on solid axles vis-a-vis independent front suspension results in larger turning radius for Jimny. Thar's plastic roof is a no no in my book and Thar's portly weight and dimensions clearly are a handicap on the ruff stuff. I wish Jimny came with a six speed torque converter though. For people living in the hills Jimny is a better bet and for the folks in the plains Thar is the way to go. Overall Jimny seems to be a better engineered product.
This comparison is awesome. Jimny seems to be a tough competition. It looks so cool. Its tiny yet provides good space.
It looks like a toy
It is actually very spacious inside in person...
Jimny anyday. Looks cooler too especially when modded🔥🤗
Crash test score ?
@@mr.emotionalartist you're saying the same sh*t everywhere, nig*a chill
Waited out this particular comparison from Autocar ! Its always unbiased that's the beauty of Autocar Team. ❤
I have a thar and the back seat comfort with the recliner is amazing. And good leg knee and head room. ( I’m 5.10 body builder). I can’t understand how it’s looking super small to this fellow
This is why I love the Jimny. It's very capable even without any mods. I have a 2015 3 door Jimny and have driven most of the big 4x4 tracks in Australia. Simpson Desert, Cape York, Canning Route etc. I left it completely stock running the cheapest highway terrains I could find. Never had a puncture or struggled offroad.
Better be late then never 😊. Much awaited. It appeared everyone including media journalist lost interest after its price reveal and heart break leading to 90% odd cancellation of bookings 💔 ( including us )
We were just waiting for the Jimny to reach Mumbai :-)
23:16-23:26 ❤.. loved it! Great job 👏👍
Suzuki should have launched jimny in the three door version. The extended wheel base reduces it's off-road ability
Why? Theres no market for 3 Door vehicles in India on top of that with such Kei car like dimensions and the first Offroad ladder on frame product from Suzuki after decades of selling efficient hatchbacks? Too risky
@@amogus9440 We just say there is no market for 3 door cars. But people prefer them as a secondary car like a daily commuter in cities... That's how the Thar 3 door version still rules the market. Maybe you're right about Suzuki's safe game play to launch it in 5 doors. But if they had launched both 5 and 3 door versions, jimny would have been a deal breaker...
but the 5 door wheelbase makes it more practical
Not even 1% ppl do off roading
@@chintureddy9254 yes. That could be true. But this body on frame chassis SUVs are targeted more on that 1% crowd who live in hilly areas or bad road regions, others would prefer monocoque SUVs. 5 door jimny is still not practical for those 1% crowd. I still remember people, who live in hilly regions, modify their bolero truck for better commuting in their day to day life.
Jimny looks cool♥️ a perfect lifestyle vehicle❤
All in all, I feel the Jimny is priced a bit too high for what it offers. Both performed exceptionally well off-road, and I didn’t see the Jimny showing any clear advantage over the Thar.
However, most people won’t be taking these off-road as much as one might think, and their use might be limited to that of a rugged lifestyle SUV feel that many want to experience while living in the urban jungle, and that’s where the Thar clearly WINS, with its large size, imposing stance and a commanding seating position, which are the aspects most would care about. Even the reasonably priced 4X2 Thar provides all these things, and so for me…
THAR IS THE WINNER HERE.
Not too high, manual variants are cheap compared to automatic.
People are losing their mind when they are seeing top model automatics or automatic variants in general.
Also you're not gonna do much with a 4x2 when the roads are slushy or muddy.
So you want a car that looks tough but isnt? Look at something else, this will only give a short term thrill and before long when the hype generated dies down youre back again looking for that next new car status high.
I agree the Jimny is a bit overpriced. However you clearly forgot to mention many points-
1. You are incorrect about the stance one. People (who are buying their vehicles for a purpose and not showoff) are searching for vehicles which are light and small but yet have good amount of usable space.. The Thar is wider than an Endeavor and is bigger than Jimny in every dimension hence making it much heavier which i s a disadvantage in Offloading. And yet its second row is unusable, it doesn't have a boot space too.
2. Thar RWD? Why not buy a Compact SUV like Nexon instead or Bolero Neo? An offroad vehicle built on a rugged ladder on frame chassis with its own demerits compared to the Urban Compact SUVs interms of space, practicality, ride quality, handling etc, all sacrificed for Offroad and yet doesn't get the main offloading feature, 4x4. It's literally an embarrassing show off varient.
If maruti had offered the Short wheel base original, I would have been first in line. As it is, I'm continuing to enjoy my 2018 Gypsy.
Jimny is a reliable offroader and the quality is par excellence compared to Mahindra Thar. Thar is bumpy, has quality gitches, interiors aren’t up to the mark, above all its just a weekend call… Jimny can be used as a regular car of the house with weekend offroading.
Jimny and Thar is completely off road mechine but still thar is my first preference
You must test drive both them and then make your opinion
My god.. so much in details... WOW. This is hell of a comparison
Considering how bad the stock thar suspension setup is and how little articulation is there I think jimny clearly trumps over thar in almost every way except the road presence. But hey they are Off roaders so presence on road kinda feels irrelevant. But most of the mahindra Bois can't accept this fact mentioned above and call everyone who points out cons of thar a Korean fan.
It was a very good comparison review..the one who doesn't have a good road presence surprisingly won the race! 😆😆
The Thar has absolutely demolished the Jimny in every offroad test. Engine with a little more power than a lawnmower. Looks like a midget in comparison, why would you buy it?
MANEUVERABILITY :THAR
ENGINE REFINEMENT AND Performance :THAR
Road presence :THAR
CONFIDENCE:THAR
And wait for GNCAP TEST OF JIMMY U CAN SEE SUBSTANTIAL Difference BETWEEN INDIAN UNIT AND GLOBAL UNIT
@@comeoniknoweverything8227 lol thar did'nt demolished anything in any test moreover jimny did all that wil slim 195 section highway tyre. Mountain GOAT is here to rule again
@DarthVader-vh5yq No one gives a fuck, we are not keyboard warrior like you. People are not throwing away 16-17 lakhs just to prove nationalism which is fake to the core. Take your psuedo-nationalism somewhere else and get some education. Mahindra is a private company not a government run ngo
Jimny: practical off-roader
Thar: show-off
Guys I just love your comparison videos
TY soooo much for the like
Anytime the Maruti Jimny. Light weight, Reliable as the sun, Great service network, features and above all driving pleasure.
With the 5 door thar scheduled for next year, lets see what chnges does Mahindra does to make it competitive to jimny, cause it needs it else Jimny is clear in comfort and features. Engine aside i feel Jimny has it all. Although the looks of thar are too good to resist.
its going to be 30 cm longer than 3 door variant, same goes with Jimny.
All i can learn from this is a very good English instead of core offroad capabilities. Gokd job AutoCar as always - your English classes are good
Its impressive that these two cars did it all in basically on heavily road-biased tires.
🙏👍Great .Booked jimny but not able to decide to GO for it or NOT.BUT after your comparison/details. Now sure going for jimny.Thanks
Jimney looks like big brother of spresso😂
Did you test roof leaks?
Team Jimny the mountain goat!!💪💪
Crash test score ?
@@mr.emotionalartist3 stars in euro ncap. (3 door version)
I have a jimny and completed 10k kms without paying any over speed fine😊😊
Honestly I was considering jimny as my second car but I am disappointed with the price.
Thats what cars of this class cost these days and in India the price isnt bad, compare it to other markets that just have the 3 door and its night and day
Same here, I was expecting it at 12L max for the base
Dont tell me you were expecting a Well tested Ladder on frame 4x4 with offroad mechanics yet well loaded packaging in the same price as a Swift.
Arey Jimny ko agar 1 lacs main bhi launch karey toh tumko fir bhi disappointed hi lagega.....
Samjhe yeh pricing ki galti nhi hai yeh tumahari dimagi santulan thora hil gya hai...
Crash test score ?
Right now, Jimny Alpha Manual is available for 9.9 lakhs ex-showroom which is a steal deal for this small almost wagon r sized tubby car. Its not a macho car like the thar and neither does it have the road presence, but for the price, its a good steal deal.
You have a verdict by driving a big pothole... Offroading is much more than that... Boy I envy your confidence...
Awaiting your update on annual maintenance cost comparison study which you released a few years ago
There is no comparison. Thar is an allout offroader but it's not for the city roads and is not your daily driver. So, anyone who lives in the city and goes for that one picnic trip on the outskirts each year should get a jimny.
What about the faulty buttons for the AC blower,,which ever button u press air leaks through the vent on the dash and foggs the glass!!! Even present on brand new thars being delivered 😮😮
Great energy Nikhil!!!
Jimny would have been a clear and undisputed winner of this shoot out had it been fitted with a more powerful engine.
If you really want to compare, put same tyres on both vehicles. Tyres are very important aspect, especially in rainy conditions. Change of tyres can change the performance upside down! With different tyres, sorry but this comparo makes very less sense.
Maruti tried to make an all rounder while Thar targeted a very specific audiance and I think there maruti miscalculated. As you say in the end, Jimny will do well as the sole car of your household. But is there anyone who buys these kind of cars if they already dont own any car?
I wish Mahindra delayed Thar launch after resolving the busy ride & Maruti launched this variant atleast a decade ago. Hoping to see Maruti addressing these gaps in the refreshed Jimny. Its sad to see Tata out of the race….
Lol, This gen model jimny was launched just 4 years ago.
@@RnR1001 yep 3Door & I own one
I haven't understood why Tata hasn't created a real hardcore offroader as a successor to the old Safari (perhaps under a "Sumo" badge?). After all, they can count on the design expertise of JLR to create one.
@@vineethg6259 what to say! There were discussions around this topic after Pratap Bose moved out. They have Yodha/Xenon platform, JLR platform. We need only 3 vehicles from them, a regular pickup for commercial purpose, a premium lifestyle pickup (4*2, 4*4, with automatic transmissions) and a proper luxurious 7 seater SUV.
Really comprehensive review!! I've always been a fan of the Jimny over the Thar, the Jimny feels like a more practical and complete package for an off-roader and can be driven as a daily driver too. The design of the Thar does not appeal to me as much and I'm happy to see a rival from suzuki that feels just right for both off-road and on-road driving. 👌
UPDATE - NCAP Rating has done for Jimny = 3 STARS
Many of the buyers of these cars will drive it from home to office, so it doesn't even matter and people are just going for either hype or road presence.
Superb review!
To me, Jimny offers originality, cute looks, and its design shows the DNA of Gypsy. Thar, on the other hand, while having a better engine, is a blatant design copy of Jeep Wrangler. A legal battle with Jeep in international court, that Mahindras lost and eventually faced a ban for export of Thar to most of the first world countries. To me, while the engine is important, originality and creativity come first. Mahindras, sorry, but you lack originality, so I am going with the Jimny. 😊
Cars targetted towards people with big EGOs... Look at the buyers and you will know what I mean 😅 only 1% of them buy it for its practicality.
Even though the Suzuki is a much better off roader than the Thar, it's unfair to say the 3-door Thar is more uncomfortable than the 5-door Jimny!
Bruh there is more space for luggage in an old Maruti 800 than the Thar, a vehicle that is supposedly build for offroading and camping.
People need to understand that both these and such other products are not lifestyle products. They aren't meant for your home to office/gym/shop type trips. Buying for such use cases is just stupid showoff. That too not of money but only of being a wannabe.
Bhaisahab, loon kaunsa gaddi? I was waiting eagerly for this review, now I'm more confused at the end. Or should I just go for the C3 Aircross?
Or should I wait for the Gncap rating and then go ahead with the best option?
Try and do the body flex test when the vehicles are sea sawing the next time. Let's see if the doors open and shut properly and how rigid is the shell.
@DarthVader-vh5yq let's not jump to conclusions. Last time I saw, jeeps were flexing..!
@DarthVader-vh5yqIt wont. Im more worried that the Thar's front wheels are gonna scrap the wheel wall, the Hard top of the Thars gonna leak, the electronics are gonna fail and it will topple easily like the recent cases of hatchbacks flipping it easily.
@DarthVader-vh5yq you think thar's plastic roof would survive a hailstorm?
@DarthVader-vh5yqbeta jimny is international
Jimny is best because company consider about off road.. When the word off road show the meaning it mean small road and moody and congestion area. And sometimes if the jimny get stock you can oush it by only two or single people not like thar is too big and heavy material but useless things.. Jimny is best quality for outside the body is Very good built quality...
Why Force Gurkha missing in the action?!
Because that one is in another league in off-roading compared to these two.
Please compare off-road capability of Force Gurkha with jimny and thar 🙏
Given the rainy climate conditions... The performance of the Jimny was rated with Air conditioner on or off???
Very well presented review accurate in content, fluent and fluid in verbal presentation and with palpable control over the use of English language. Good work!
Woow Perfect Comparison Wonderful-Sanjoga Waagleee
Both are awesome!!
It's just in India jimny vs thar but jimny already compared to gwagen, wrangler, toyota in foreign and won most of it 😂😂
Indians with thar 🤣🤣
This is the best car comparison channel
So problem with thar is yeah milegi nah 😂 I called three showrooms and I guess all Mahindra showroom have a simple concept of making cm fool waiting period 1.5 years but if I pay premium 1 lakh I will get it in 7 days ????
The ending scene says it all. .
Superb comparison
Thanks for the review.
The Jimmy needs wider tires. It’ll look even better then and it’s off road ability will be greatly improved. I guess Maruti sticks on these puny tires to keep the cost down.
Firstly to the persons out there that say the Jimny is more expensive because of the 4x2 Thar, congratulations youre a poser because buying a car like this just for the looks is a case study on being vapid and an exercise in the pointless.
Maruti was sharp with the pricing against the Thar practically undercutting the Thar where it counts. If you want the most practical(and in this class thats saying alot)and easier to live with car its the Jimny, if you want one that may win you a drag race(which is just really stupid) then get the Thar. Both are the best offroad with the Jimny eeking out a little more performance due to its compact size and weight.
Jimny is a good car, but due to soo much craze for thar people not gonna value it
both of them are very good but which one is better it's going to be tough 😊💖💪
Jimny is just fun to drive. It's in the name. That is why it has a huge following.
Both SUV's are legend in the segment 🚙
@ 11:37 jimny has no rear wiper which was said in the video but in the list there is a typing mistake that it has the rear wiper😅
In a society driven by budget conscious customers ,what we reall need at the moment is a bolero size car with the engine and capability of a gypsy.Jimny is perfect for miniscule number of off-road enthusiasts but not for India.thats where Suzuki India got it all wrong.we need bigger bootspace,wider 3 seater backseat.and there is the perfect all rounder .Bolero easily demolished.
Maruti has made Jimney for a Purpose while Mahindra has made for road presence.
is kinetix yellow colour favorite and best seller in India?
Jimny looks like the Grand Daddy Of S-presso 😂😂
5:28
When other manufacturers of ESC used in 4WD drive mode need only a fraction of a full turn to activate,Because the Jimny needs 4-5 full turns to activate.
When the AllGrip finally activates the Jimny is at a full stop.
I am told that the computer of the Jimny comes from a motorcycle…
Anyhow, it reacts faaaar too late.
- This is why one diff-locker or two is very beneficial for the Jimny. Because its computer system is probably running MS-DOS or Windows 95…!
Meaning - The 4WD AllGrip is pretty good but not as good as a similar systems from Toyota, Mitsubishi, Mazda, or a F:ing Range Rovers.
But with one or two diff-lockers the Jimny will beat all of them.
3 door Jimny better. Hope Suzuki realises this and launches it in India.
This Is A Spec Sheet Comparison.. I Thought This Is A Off Road Test.. It's Not There
Autocar India should bring all SUVs for offroad hoping for new video on offroad day with autocar
@17:58 Is Thar Diesel really a 4 cylinder engine, unlike bolero/ TUV which had 3 cylinder engine ?