NEW 2022 DS 4 walkaround - enough to take on BMW? | What Car?
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
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The new DS 4 is a family car with BIG ambitions. Will it offer enough to rival the BMW 1 Series, Mercedes A-Class and Audi A3? Watch to find out
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Would you have the DS 4 over a BMW 1 Series? 👇
Yes. I’d have the DS4 over a 1 Series
Yes it's more interesting
yes, but I would take an A class over both
Definitely!!!
DS4 for sure.
The best DS ever made. A touch of french refinement in addition.
Französischer chic
Great Art
DS 4
One of the best UK car reviewers. Facts without trying to be a comedian. Makes a refreshing change.
Much better looking and more interesting than 99.9% of the cars BMW currently makes.
Yes I really don't get the BMW fixation either especially when black; what's that all about? . Citroën are to me far more innovative hugely more comfortable and ofcourse better looking. I've got one on order and can't wait..
but at the end of the day, it’s just a citroen
@@livebig6414 in other word a very good car
@@livebig6414And an Audi is a VW
Looks way better than the other premium hatches. Very nice!
The DS4 is BEAUTIFUL 😍😍😍 The last DS4 wasn’t the best looking posh small family hatchback but DS have really step their game up. The interior is so beautiful, so lavish and so well put together. It is on par with the 1 series’s build quality and much better than the build quality of an A Class/ A3/ Giulietta/ CT. In the back, it is probably not as spacious as a 1 Series or A Class but it is on par with an A3 and much much better than a Giulietta. And the boot is bigger than all of them making it the biggest boot of the posh small family hatchback class! My question is, can it come with an Automated Tailgate? Great review What Car
Wonderful nice Car the DS 4
Wow! DS is stepping up the game!
The best DS so far. Really love it!
In Japan, the stylish new DS 4 gonna be a good contender to the new Lexus NX. I wait and see.
In terms of style they hit a home run
My last 3 cars have been Audi, BMW and u currently have a Mercedes A-Class. I am changing in the coming weeks.....I like my A-Class though started looking at BMW and Audi again....but honestly I am completely won over by this! Absolutely love it! Definitely at the top of my Christmas list!
more comparable to a Cupra Formentor, and this car looks better and more premium than the Cupra.
Looks amazing for the price. Great tech too. I don't understand why people keep buying overpriced german "premium" cars when cars like this exist. Keep in mind that german manufacturers base models appear "cheap enough" because they offer almost anything as "extra" that other manufacturers include in the base models.
I own DS 4 (2011) 1.6 THP 200 definitely best car i owned and would definitely love to have new ds4 👌
Bellissima, bravi amici francesi!
Definitely . I am waiting for my new DS3 Crossback prestige ultra (with extra mods) soooo excited
Congrats Michelle ! 😁
@@julesbenalouane2086 so excited. I love cars and I am a bit fussy on which cars I like, my Dad had a DS20( in the 1970's) the best car that I have ever been in. Still waiting to go in a car which beats it.
It looks to me like a really technically advanced car with really luxury interior. My experience with Citroen the parent company is they are good at tech.
I’m broke but i will buy it over the a class, a3 .. the looks and that interior looks different like the feeling that the Mercedes and Audi when they are on the top top
The best looking hachback crossover ever made
I love this over the BMW and many others. This is very nice.
Does anyone else find it hilarious that designers are resorting to a second touchscreen to make it easier to control the touchscreen? If only there was some other method that worked perfectly for years and years...
No
To be fair, part of the blame for this madness falls on car reviewers. For years and years they bashed cars for "buttonitis", so the designers went on to eliminate buttons and put everything on a touch screen. Except that it turns that from an ergonomics point of view, it's not really very good. I think there should be some middle ground, climate and audio settings should be buttons and knobs, all the rest should be accessed through the touch screen.
Not such a bad idea actually
Like a physical dial
Wow...this looks amazing
At this price range, this car offers (optional extra) laminated glass which gives better soundproofing for the interior cabin, something that very few other competitors have.
Awesome car DS4
In terms of design, this completely blows away the competition. The impressive and pretty details utterly overshadow the current German pitiful attempts at design. With the Mercedes a class being too blobby and anonymous, the Audi A3 being horrendously overdesigned and the BMW 1 series simply being rather ugly, this is refreshingly gorgeous on the exterior.
the interior also shines compared to the German counterparts. The concept-like and expensive appearance beats the well designed Mercedes solely by the fact the whole interior looks great instead of just the dashboard. It also looks much better than the boring and strangely proportioned BMWs interior. The DS also beats the Audi because the Audi A3 once again laughably overdesigned and doesn't appear to have the best quality.
Is this model offered in cross and standard lower stance versions?
Great fabulous interior. Exterior...squint at the front and how many other 2021s come to mind. Was there a joint designers' meeting between DS , Lexus and Nissan?
Bought an etense model last week with the leather interior and they are awesome
Here just for Doug
WOW 😲 just WOW I really love it this car the style of this car is amazing 🤩😍
I live in Finland. Ordered one for me in april.
I've just ordered one to replace my fabulous DS7. Going for 225 eTense in gold.
a non-cross version of DS 4 looks far better than this cross version... otherwise, really handsome car! and most likely, the first really propper DS model, with far fewer (especially design) "reservations and compromises" than the other three stand-alone DS models (3 Crossback, 7 Crossback, and 9 )
What great looking car hope it comes to Motability in the uk
Nice car but the active tourer i have has more rear legroom than the ds4
I have a MK1 DS4, best car ive ever owned. It gets such a bad rap by the motoring press, but i honestly dont have any issues with it. I couldnt care less about it having no wind down rear windows. The new DS4 is a stunner, i would have one in a heartbeat, but im going to wait until they start appearing on the nearly new market, where im sure there will be some great savings to be had.
This is a NICE looking car and has really good amounts of usable tech, looks like it's going to be a popular decent offering from DS.
Wonderful
Yep, want!
Placed my order 6 months to get one from show room owned a Mercedes’ cla from 2019 time for a change
Really premium car and design are very nice 👌
I'd probably go with a car dependant on safety ratings
Obsoletely gorgeous and so refreshingly different...
idk man, stellantis is doing a great job
Sadly Stellantis are failing miserably in Southern Africa
@@zholtaiv6693 africa is not the goal for stellantis, just europe e amerca
Impressive but very tight interior package
for poeple loving german premium... this car is built in germany 😇
It is? I’m googling it.
Aha! The Opel acquisition!
Commentator541 yes stellantis group . they build this car in opel's plant in germany .
💛💛💛💛💛 it !
Yes!
Yes
How did the price rise from 27 k including metallic to a whopping 33k in 15/16months lol. Was considering at 27 k but now it's 33k they can keep it.
Absolutly👍❤🇨🇵
Might start from £25k which is a bit more than a golf/seat/insertblandgermannamehere but have you driven a poverty spec german car? It looks, feels and is so sparse on anything, you'd wish you were driving anything else. Whereas a poverty spec DS4 will still have lots of kit. You have to compare like for like. If DS4 comes with climate control for example, that spec must be optioned. Got a friend with a brand new A1 poverty spec... no climate control, old style horrible auto gearshift too! I could go on but you get my point.
I always find the space test at the back quiet comical...the front seat is in a position for a 6Foot driver and same 6Foot driver complains about sitting behind a 6Footer, in real life...who actually buys a hatchback for the space at the back seat...let alone for anotther 6 Footer?
Spot on. 👍
Outside very stylish, although not so keen on the interior, prefer the ds3 crossback interior
DS 4
How will this Ds4 hybrid/ gas engine reliability compare against the BMW X2 hybrid? I'm thinking which is a better car overall . All feedbacks are welcome.
Both of these are poor choices as far as EVs go. Only VW/Audi and Toyota/Lexus have mature offerings. Mitsubishi as well, but their cars are outdated. Give the French another generation before you go for it. Gas only is ok.
Beautiful car, however who in their right mind would be looking at brand new ICE cars at this time?
Me. Oh i know, sales of new ICE cars are gonna be banned in 2030, apparently. But i wouldn't be so sure about that. The current power infastructure in Europe cannot support everyone switching to electric cars. Just not possible. You can expect this date to be extended again and again as we approach it.
@@user-bs1wx1tb7e 2030 is still a long way away and the infrastructure is stepping up a gear all the time. Please remember in 2030 it's only the sale of ICE cars being banned, not owning or driving them which will go on for decades after. The population switch will be gradual and will leave plenty of time to get things in place. There will be the odd stubborn drivers still driving ICE cars in 2050. If they want to pay £8 per litre of fuel, leave them to it.
What is Ds?
Have you heard of this thing called Google?
@@PedroConejo1939 you can't just tell me dood
@@OrganicStuff1 It's complicated. Look up DS Automobiles.
@@PedroConejo1939 okay
@@OrganicStuff1 I'm not trying to be rude, but it's best to get the whole story (and I don't want to fall into the rabbit hole of is it a Citroën or isn't it?).
No cup holders
DS have legit the worst customer service it is next to zero here in the UK, Glad my ds3 crossback is on lease and going back in 2 month
At the moment, anything could best BMW. They've lost their way
I started liking in the beginning of the video. Then hearing 41K for PHEV, I already forgot about it :) No PSA car is worth that much ;)
Don't get me wrong I believe that all cars are over prised right now. But you look like you consider an Audi or a BMW as more suitable for this prise range. Based on what? Reliability? Brand name? Exclusivity? You must live in the late 80s to mid 90s in your mind, Cause in today's world all those premium brands have lost the plot in so many ways that at the end of the day a DS makes more sense. Not because it is better but because it is exactly the same but you will not see your dozen of neighbours driving one. And that sounds a bit more premium.
@@lostre77 we have a 2017 BMW 530e and a 2016 Nissan Qashqai. The quality of the bimmer is so much better than others. On the other hand, my Qashqai has more features that the bimmer! That really bothers me. As a summary, I believe it’s not the right time for EVs or PHEVs.
May be a brand in its own right now but it’s got Citroen all over it.
this is practically a vauxhall (astra 2022 l) with some fancy pants exterior upgrades
Yes, in the same way an Audi A3 is just a Skoda Octavia in drag. A BMW 1 Series is just a fat Mini, Mercedes A-Class is on a half-Renault platform. This is the only way to make money on cars these days by sharing development costs.
@@minimoto99 your absolutely right minimoto99 i applaud you
@@minimoto99 i actually didn't know that the a class is half renault i know it has renault engines though
@@MotorTorq_ZA yes the platform architecture was co-developed between Daimler and Renault-Nissan.
@@minimoto99oh yeah sort of like the mercedes citan is a renault kangoo
Looks suspiciously like a Mach E
Maybe a new set of glasses are required
Unbelievable that a full EV option isn't available at launch.
and of course true bmw fans don't buy bmw series 1
Lexus
Veve homies what's good?
Interesting but a complete no no with touch screen heater controls. Even the new Citroen C4 and C5 have gone back to physical controls!
DS need to stay on this design path. It took Audi years to build their brand to BMW Mercedes levels and DS will need to stick at it.
Lovely small hatch but lack of EV for years 2021/2022 is a bit poor
Get over the the hang up with the rotary dial, most smart phones , tablets , Tesla’s don’t have one and we humans get along just fine.
You don't use smart phones or tablets while driving and your arm shaking do you though
I never heard of this car
Everybody pretending to love the DS and no one will buy it... Hypocrisy
I would definitely buy it over any german competition if i had the money.
@@user-bs1wx1tb7e when you will have, you will change your mind, trust me.
Wouldn't have one mainly because of the price but also the STUPID touch screen. Buttons and dials are a lot safer than having to search through menus. On my Focus I can operate nearly all my controls without looking at then, not on this.
Maybe not quite at the level of BMW or MERCEDES, but certainly better than VW
....aaand it looks like you definitely haven't been near any of DS cars, especially one launched in the last few years.... let alone IN them! ;)
@@mirkozlikovski9553 Me may be badly expressed, I also prefer the DS, it was just to not offend the unconditional of German premium
@@SD-cs1ti and I just wanted to say that regarding the perceived quality of recent DS models interiors (everything that you can see, touch and feel) they are rather stunning... not talking about reliability... this kind of "premium level quality" should yet be proven with time. their stand-alone models simply aren't on the roads long enough to judge ;).
PEOPLE THINKING OF BUYING A DS..READ..... to keep the car under warranty if you have a service and something needs doing you HAVE TO take the car to a DS SALON there are only a handful dotted around the UK. my nearest one is 40 mile away so thats 80 mile these and back. You can only take it to a citroen dealer for them to just do a bog standard service and that is it. if you have any faults even with electrics and the infotainment or a recall even just a software recall..you have to take it to a DS SALON.....ALSO the 2nd service on this is £300! the first one is £200-£220!
I think it's the best DS yet and is perhaps more stylish than its German rivals. But it still seems like it's trying too hard to be stylish above all else so seems superficial, and you know it's just the usual PSA underpinnings that aren't going to be class leading. And it's not electric. When you compare it to something like the VW ID3, which is an all new platform, a car engineered inside and out for a purpose, not just glitter on the surface, the DS doesn't look so good. I wouldn't buy a DS anything at the moment unfortunately and still expect the brand to end in just a few years.
I would seriously doubt that anyone whom was considering buying a BMW would even look at a car like this. It can't come close to the BMW's perceived image..... And no, I'm not a BMW fan.
well... I was absolutely impressed by the build quality, by the materials used in their cabins, and especially by the sheer craftsmanship and the attention to detail (DS 3CB and DS 4CB)... it's simply breathtakingly stunning, especially DS7. so, if we are talking about this kind of "perceived image", they have nothing to be ashamed of... ;).
Not coming close to BMW's perceived image can be a good thing as well as a bad thing. Just as there's lots of people who buy Beemers for the image, there's a lot would never buy one because of their image. The real difficulty DS have is how UK buyers react to French cars in general. If you can push past the Brownshirts, they can be very rewarding.
this car is built in germany and their employees will buy it with - 15 % . The used DS 4 will sell well in germany
A more luxurious Peugeot 308, but it has the same engines.
The BMW 1 series ; ffs how ugly do you think the DS4 is? The 1 series is the ugliest car that BM have ever produced while the DS4 must rate as one of the best looking cars to come out this year. What's up with you car reviewers, are you just cloned?
Any new fossil fuel car is already a dinosaur.
Not really, for at least another 20 years. I will definitely be having fun when all you EV-only people wait in endless lines to charge your EVs, when everyone will own one and the power infastructure won't be able to support them all...
Yet here they are, same people that told us EV was the future, trying to mitigate and finding new fuels (hydrogen/ synthetic fuels) because they just found out lithium is a limited and rare material. They weren't thinking about long term were they 🤔
Looks a bit like a Lexus it won’t be half as reliable as a Lexus though.
but twice as interesting as lexus
Looks great, but electric is the future. That's where I'm headed
BMW selling point is handling. Design is out for both exterior and interior.
Lexus looks, French reliability 😬
So not as bad as some imagine then.
So pretty good then looking at reliability stats..
@@markeglin412 😂
But nevertheless Golf über alles!
Just one word says not to buy this car "Depreciation"
to the contrary , i wait this car for used car ! ratio price / equipement perfect.
What happened to Citroen? It used to be a house of innovation and cutting edge technology. Now, it resorts to imitating Peugeot and churning out cheap cars.
This looks like the Homer-mobile from the outside. And then the circus of undecided designers did their number in the interior.
Well, it belonged to Peugeot for a long te and now Peugeot owns everybody through Stellantis.
No is the simple answer
A strange looking vehicle that will likely have customers in some places, but it is clearly fringe. I can’t understand why someone would buy one, given the choices out there. Let’s face it, French vehicles aren’t known for being particularly engineered.
it looks like you haven't been near the French cars in the last 10 or so years... ;)
@@mirkozlikovski9553 I rented a Citroen C5 for 2 weeks in Morocco 2 years ago. Does that count? Although new, it was an odd car that was not at all impressive. Perhaps things have changed since then.😛
Admittedly, it was like an SUV.
@@pacmanc8103 well... it does count... in a way. if you rented C5 Aircross (which is an SUV). but if you rented C5, then not really. because it was developed 15+ years ago, came to market in 2008, was built on completely different mechanics, and would be as such completely uncomparable in any way with DS vehicle, developed "last year"... even if you could find one in "brand new&top trim" condition, let alone in over 3 years old (because they stopped its production in 2017), beaten up rental vehicle in north Africa ;) :). (3 years old rental vehicle is most likely in rather "not that impressive" state even in Sweeden... :D)
and you have to bear in mind that qualitative difference in perceived quality, level of finish, used materials, and built-in tech of current DS, compared to its "Citroen sibling" built on the same platform is greater than it is with Audi compared to VW... :/
@@mirkozlikovski9553 It was a C5 SUV with around 4000 km on it - ‘Air’ something rings a bell. Odd headlights, kind of a weird steering wheel, and it felt unstable and bouncy at freeway speeds - drove it from Marrakech to Casablanca and up to Fez on freeways and regular highways. It was definitely not a vehicle I’d recommend purchasing - perhaps the company has made vast improvements over this 2019 model (must have been with 4000 miles in August of 2019).
It's a Citroen, nothing wrong with that but why dress it up as something else? Folk are not daft.
by that logic, A3 is just "shrunken Škoda Octavia" and A4 is "minimzed Škoda Superb"
Great style but why not go 50% of the range electric? Clearly buying a fossil fuel car now, means that it will be totally out of date within 2 to 3 years. Not to mention devaluation.
Out of date why? Why every clueless person thinks EVs are just going to replace everything in 2-3 years? It is impossible, the power infastructure can't support it in any country in the world. As for devaluation, with the rate EV tech is improving, especially for batteries, by the time EVs become mandatory they are going to be much better and much cheaper than now, so current EVs are going to devalue just as badly.
to compare this car with audi a3 or skoda is like comparing a michelin star restaurant with mcdonald's... nice joke!
Oh come on, Audi and Skoda aren't that bad, are they?
@@PedroConejo1939 also mcdonalds is not so bad
Holy fuck! LOL, that push in and pop out door sounds so damn cheap!
Not at all.
You guys compare this to the BMW?? c'mon on guys...the amount of time n money invested in research, innovation and vision is not even a percentage of these fashionista cars...
What you say only exists in the 5 series onwards, the same in Mercedes, the 1 series, A class etc., ares a generalist cars with a premium logo, nothing to do against this DS ..
Germans can still take out garbage at sky-high prices that people will still consider them superior cars lol
@@alexlcap2396 German cars are overall superior
Alex Lcap with the german premium you buy a rich lifestyle , you want to imitate the rich poeple who can buy class S . germans have all understood , the brand image is almost the most important thing and they invest again and again to keep their advantage since decades. It ´s an industrial logic top
well, it's not like that PSA builds cars "from yesterday".... they too invest large amounts of time n money in research, innovation, and vision and they do it for 100 years or so.... if DS is a newly formed brand it doesn't mean that there is no knowledge, heritage, and technical legacy behind it...
Its way too weird looking and way too french.
The interior looks weird and dosent look that good.
Would rather buy a BMW anytime you ask me.
(Reliability is much better since ive owned 4 Modern BMws)