I see a fellow dog owner with obviously many years of experience :) Including talking to them like people and the universal gesture of surrender "doggo I have no food" :) Thanks for another detailed, specific, realistic well-thought out review!
A few small points possibly of interest. Jerven from Norway (pronounced Yer-ven,- outside of English the other Germanic languages pronounce j-sounds without a preceding d-sound) means Wolverine in the three Scandinavian languages,- Jerv in Norwegian, Jærv in Danish, Järv in Swedish. Fjell, fjæld, fjäll means a low mountain ridge ,- the mountains of Norway and Sweden are not extremely high - just abundant. :) Duk, dug means a sheet like the ones you put on tables when dining in style,- so it´s the wolverine mountain sheet. Särmä means edge in Finnish,- so the company want to portray in its name a sense of cutting edge technology. These products of course are used by the respective countries´ millitary personel,- in particular the ones operating at altitude and in harsh cold climate conditions. Think Norwegian and Finnish cold, snow and ice and also by the people in the humid damp cold rainsoaked terrains of southern scandinavia. They are not cheap,- not even for people living in the Scandinavian countries,- but hopefully they´re worth the investment. So basically your combination here is signalling cutting edge technology for the outdoorsy man with teeth ( mountain man, hunter, woodsman, soldier) like a mountain wolverine.
@@ulfdanielsen6009 The word särmä is specifically finnish military slang for a sharp individual or for a sharp way of doing things. I think the name doesn't mean "cutting edge", but smartly made products for sharp individuals.
I have a Jerven Fjellduken Kingsize with the 60gsm Primaloft. Sleep in below-freezing temps - I thought I'd be cold, so I had a Helikon-Tek Swagman as a blanket. Once I warmed up the bag, kicked off the Swagman and was toasty the whole night. Kingsize fits me and two labradors, though a bit of a squeeze. Probably fit two humans top and tail in a pinch.
The Särmä insulated cloak comes in older and newer batch versions - other has gray inner and the other has brown inner. The inner layer is just enclosing the insulation. Both do have the reflective layer in them, it's under the outer layer and not visible from inside. The un-insulated version of Särmä cloak on the other hand has just the outer layer and the reflective layer inside, so it is clearly visible. I hope this clears some of the uncertainty.
I have the Hellsport Fjellduken Extreme, with zip-in Primaloft liner and it zips into a bivi, has a zip-on hood, zip-on arms, reflective inside. It comes with a stuffbag, signaling panel, and a belt. Fjellduken means mountain blanket in Norwegian. And I slept in it in -7°C in a shirt and jeans, which was doable. Due to the liner it does become a bit bulky though. Got put onto the Fjellduken by an USMC sniper that crossed my path (...on my honeymoon). Didn't get the chance to thank Him for that.
Yes sir. I’ve been rocking the Hunter for over a decade in many different conditions. It’s bad ass and still going strong with no wear! At below zero I had some condensation but still kept warm with primaloft doing it s magic. It’s the Swiss Army knife of bivys imho
Hi, Excellent video again. Jerven used here now also, the longer hunter insulate version, they're great. If bad cold a jungle sleep bag in works good and still keeps light. Makes a good little tunnel tent with two bungies also, string out top triangle with a mat inside and zip below so no drips. Mine been from Alpine to Arctic ... they work. :-) ATB.
The reason you can’t use this one (jerven fjellduken original) as a bivy is because you bought the smallest size. The Norwegian army use the dovrefjell fjellduk (exactly the same product just a different Norwegian company) and they work great. This one is 143x143cm, the bigger one is 143x222cm which is the one people are talking about when they say it can be used as a bivy. Love the channel, keep ‘em comming
@@GruntProof I have a question. What is your opinion on mesh baselayers? They are quite popular here in Norway especially among ex army(most people have been in the army due to conscription) the Norwegian army uses mesh and then something called Ullfrote. I’d love to hear your opinion on the winter clothes of our infantry. Il link a video from the Norwegian army for reference. The title is “dress like a winter soldier” ua-cam.com/video/1q1Ci_SDUZs/v-deo.htmlsi=ZZmQ1YSQqlxZrxeX
Reckon youd be interested in the Bushmen Hideout Thermo Warm - its basically the blanket but a step up. Really not a fan of the mozzie net though, it does bugger all. The none 'Warm' version ive not used . Also, I have the thermo tarp, again its okay - the lining sown into the outside though prevents any kind of stretching, so water pools heavily if you have any slack at all
i had the XL kingsize hunter jerven bag (primaloft version) for several years, i used it as a bivi bag, sleeping bag, tarp, quick deploy shelter, ... never once used it as a poncho/cloak. Only flaw i found and reason i eventually sold it was because rain water would come in the zips,
Hi GP. Nice one! I have just reviewed the Fjellduken original on my channel, and I also have the helsport fjellduken extreme too. Great product, I recently had to Bail from a collapsing tent, so it was a valuable back up then too. I even have one for the dog, the Jerven lair!
About the särmä thermal cloak, it does have the reflective material inside. Might be that the heavier loft keeps the warming effect from being that noticeable. Mine is the 60g version and it takes bit longer to heat up than the un-insulated version. Also the materials are NIR-compliant, which is neat.
@@GruntProof I think it has always been there, at least for the lighter models. Maybe yours was a mishap in manufacture or something like that. You could always ask Varusteleka about it, who knows they might even send a new one.
Jerven comes in many sizes, with all sizes having the options of just reflective layer og Primaloft 60g insulation and the extreme variant with Primaloft 170g insulation Mini: 94x186 cm Thermo: 143x143 cm Hunter: 102x222 cm King Size: 143x222 cm
A guy can also use the sleeves as light duty gaiters to keep your pant legs dry in tall wet grass every now and then. I have the extreme for winter up here in Alberta because it gets retardedly cold here and the original stays in my ruck during the other 3 seasons. Definitely good gear.
I waited these video ! :) For the size the Särmä one is greater in size that the model/brand shown here (all Särmä TST Thermal Cloak) it is a square of 2.16 meters by 2.16 meters when opened (85" x 85"), I have the winter insulated one. Some considerations for the Särmä (probably same for others cloak things) it is not waterproof but very water resistant, with zippers and corners, there are 'gaps' at corners, and not waterprooof zippers (you see light through them)) => (very)water resistant waterproof => certainly a super blanket, a super poncho (must used to use it ;)) and a far better option for a urgency shelter comparing lil things you often see in Amazon or other places (= also usefull but not at all at same level, of course bulkier and more heavy ...) => personal consideration: - I prefer the camo of Särmä ones (woodland/winter) than the Fjellduken ones ;) no opionions for others models form other brands - You speak about price and you said Fjellduken is under Särmä .. interesting, what I've seen before buying mine some months ago was not really this (but the Särmä is not at all cheap that's for sure)
Gruntproof maybe, but is it KID proof? 🤣🤣🤣 The little monsters can destroy anything! A channel called Endurance Room has some really good videos on those products, I've wanted a Jerven Hunter since I first heard of them but $300 I can't justify. Maybe one of these days.
Hi guys cant help you...later no its not food...dogs zeroed in here on backpack and rustling sounds . I'm guessing them dogs have had some MRE before 😅
if you hunt with that plastic tarp the animals hear you 2 weeks before you arrive ..I made my self a deer hide parka ..way better and warmer..not even need to wear anything underneath in minus 6 c..
UPDATE
I'm being told that other people's Särmä has reflective material in it. Mine either did not, or it was not noticeable at all.
I see a fellow dog owner with obviously many years of experience :) Including talking to them like people and the universal gesture of surrender "doggo I have no food" :)
Thanks for another detailed, specific, realistic well-thought out review!
Jerven is cool. need an American one. lol
Could you have gotten the tarp verse the thermal blanket?
I've used the särmä as a bivy, tarp, and cloak so far. It has been performing flawlessly. A great piece of versatile kit.
Trust the Nords on cold weather gear.
A few small points possibly of interest.
Jerven from Norway (pronounced Yer-ven,- outside of English the other Germanic languages pronounce j-sounds without a preceding d-sound) means Wolverine in the three Scandinavian languages,- Jerv in Norwegian, Jærv in Danish, Järv in Swedish.
Fjell, fjæld, fjäll means a low mountain ridge ,- the mountains of Norway and Sweden are not extremely high - just abundant. :)
Duk, dug means a sheet like the ones you put on tables when dining in style,- so it´s the wolverine mountain sheet.
Särmä means edge in Finnish,- so the company want to portray in its name a sense of cutting edge technology.
These products of course are used by the respective countries´ millitary personel,- in particular the ones operating at altitude and in harsh cold climate conditions.
Think Norwegian and Finnish cold, snow and ice and also by the people in the humid damp cold rainsoaked terrains of southern scandinavia.
They are not cheap,- not even for people living in the Scandinavian countries,- but hopefully they´re worth the investment.
So basically your combination here is signalling cutting edge technology for the outdoorsy man with teeth ( mountain man, hunter, woodsman, soldier) like a mountain wolverine.
@@ulfdanielsen6009 The word särmä is specifically finnish military slang for a sharp individual or for a sharp way of doing things. I think the name doesn't mean "cutting edge", but smartly made products for sharp individuals.
I have a Jerven Fjellduken Kingsize with the 60gsm Primaloft. Sleep in below-freezing temps - I thought I'd be cold, so I had a Helikon-Tek Swagman as a blanket. Once I warmed up the bag, kicked off the Swagman and was toasty the whole night. Kingsize fits me and two labradors, though a bit of a squeeze. Probably fit two humans top and tail in a pinch.
When grunt proof uploads twice, you know they're important videos
The Särmä insulated cloak comes in older and newer batch versions - other has gray inner and the other has brown inner. The inner layer is just enclosing the insulation. Both do have the reflective layer in them, it's under the outer layer and not visible from inside.
The un-insulated version of Särmä cloak on the other hand has just the outer layer and the reflective layer inside, so it is clearly visible.
I hope this clears some of the uncertainty.
I have the Hellsport Fjellduken Extreme, with zip-in Primaloft liner and it zips into a bivi, has a zip-on hood, zip-on arms, reflective inside. It comes with a stuffbag, signaling panel, and a belt. Fjellduken means mountain blanket in Norwegian. And I slept in it in -7°C in a shirt and jeans, which was doable. Due to the liner it does become a bit bulky though. Got put onto the Fjellduken by an USMC sniper that crossed my path (...on my honeymoon). Didn't get the chance to thank Him for that.
Yes sir. I’ve been rocking the Hunter for over a decade in many different conditions. It’s bad ass and still going strong with no wear! At below zero I had some condensation but still kept warm with primaloft doing it s magic. It’s the Swiss Army knife of bivys imho
Hi, Excellent video again. Jerven used here now also, the longer hunter insulate version, they're great. If bad cold a jungle sleep bag in works good and still keeps light. Makes a good little tunnel tent with two bungies also, string out top triangle with a mat inside and zip below so no drips. Mine been from Alpine to Arctic ... they work. :-) ATB.
The channel called Endurance Room has a lot of videos about Nordic equipment, especially the one distributed by Varusteleka.
Artkis from the UK makes something similar, the V392 URH Emergency Poncho/ Tarp. Think it might be the least expensive option at £100 (ex vat).
I dig it, been happy with the Varusteleka stuff I've gotten, digging the Jerven things, gotta look into them more.
Added poppers along the edges of mine and on my Swagman roll, both now marry together as a ranger type roll, or for use as a hammock under blanket.
The reason you can’t use this one (jerven fjellduken original) as a bivy is because you bought the smallest size. The Norwegian army use the dovrefjell fjellduk (exactly the same product just a different Norwegian company) and they work great. This one is 143x143cm, the bigger one is 143x222cm which is the one people are talking about when they say it can be used as a bivy.
Love the channel, keep ‘em comming
Ah ha! Thanks
@@GruntProof I have a question. What is your opinion on mesh baselayers? They are quite popular here in Norway especially among ex army(most people have been in the army due to conscription) the Norwegian army uses mesh and then something called Ullfrote. I’d love to hear your opinion on the winter clothes of our infantry. Il link a video from the Norwegian army for reference.
The title is “dress like a winter soldier” ua-cam.com/video/1q1Ci_SDUZs/v-deo.htmlsi=ZZmQ1YSQqlxZrxeX
Funny you mention that...
ua-cam.com/video/UdVaDGrtTnc/v-deo.htmlsi=SbjOZvGPKe07DTXH
Reckon youd be interested in the Bushmen Hideout Thermo Warm - its basically the blanket but a step up. Really not a fan of the mozzie net though, it does bugger all. The none 'Warm' version ive not used .
Also, I have the thermo tarp, again its okay - the lining sown into the outside though prevents any kind of stretching, so water pools heavily if you have any slack at all
Have you seen/ checked out the helikon-Tex swagman roll poncho?
i had the XL kingsize hunter jerven bag (primaloft version) for several years, i used it as a bivi bag, sleeping bag, tarp, quick deploy shelter, ... never once used it as a poncho/cloak. Only flaw i found and reason i eventually sold it was because rain water would come in the zips,
Really like your furry assistants.
looks like the outdoor research wallcreeper bit with the thermal on it
So did it pass the Mini Grunt and Royal Rumble test ? Cherish those moments brother, and thanks for all the experience and knowledge sharing !
That cloak though...Randallf the Grey, wizard of Middle Earth! :D
the Särmä does have reflective material inside. would they lie to us? mine has.
Hi GP. Nice one! I have just reviewed the Fjellduken original on my channel, and I also have the helsport fjellduken extreme too. Great product, I recently had to Bail from a collapsing tent, so it was a valuable back up then too. I even have one for the dog, the Jerven lair!
About the särmä thermal cloak, it does have the reflective material inside. Might be that the heavier loft keeps the warming effect from being that noticeable. Mine is the 60g version and it takes bit longer to heat up than the un-insulated version. Also the materials are NIR-compliant, which is neat.
Mine does not. I wonder when it was added
@@GruntProof I think it has always been there, at least for the lighter models. Maybe yours was a mishap in manufacture or something like that. You could always ask Varusteleka about it, who knows they might even send a new one.
I read on varusteleka the särmä thermal cloath have also the reflective Silver Stuff and an Apex clima Shild Isolation?
Thank you! These are just what I was looking for!
Jerven comes in many sizes, with all sizes having the options of just reflective layer og Primaloft 60g insulation and the extreme variant with Primaloft 170g insulation
Mini: 94x186 cm
Thermo: 143x143 cm
Hunter: 102x222 cm
King Size: 143x222 cm
They have different sizes. Also, endpieces, so you an make a tent.
A guy can also use the sleeves as light duty gaiters to keep your pant legs dry in tall wet grass every now and then. I have the extreme for winter up here in Alberta because it gets retardedly cold here and the original stays in my ruck during the other 3 seasons. Definitely good gear.
Good tip
How about a video on the Varustaleka wool?
A bear comes along sees a hunter wearing one of these and thinks "cool, A snack in a zip lock bag"
The bear wouldn’t even see you with that mo5 woodland on
Interesting. I'll have to see what I can come up with.
😊😊 try the jerven extreme! Its bigger and I fit inside. I'm 6.2 tall
The extremes have the 160gsm insulation right?
It’s the same size as hunter, only thicker insulation. There’s a king size.
those are some cute dogs
Great video buddy. I watched a video on a cloak made in the u.s. its called the tacticloak. By Rhino and Ravens i think. But its stupid expensive.
Whats the name of the camo print? Love it! Appreciate this video.
Fjellkamuflasje/mountain camo. It’s supposed to look like rocks with lychen on it, which it does.
Thank you @@putrid_swamp_juice
Any of these similar to a Swagman's Roll?
That first one was noisy. But this was a great video! Thanks
Contact Manufacturer & ask for a specific measurement to be tailored
Man that's a nasty fuckin riff playing there in the intro. Hard to make out but it sounds like an old Deicide riff.
How does this compare to a Helikon-Tex Swagmanroll with US Poncho?
Superior
Cool products. Relv Estoniamakes a summer time hide that aint waterproof,but its light
Good video. Thanks for sharing! 🥃🍻🪂🫡🇺🇸
‘Where is the liquor’ is a good company to deal with. Finish humour seems a bit like American military humour but goofier.
Plash Palatka
jerven Fjellduken is from Norway
Jerven is a wolverine
Thanks
I waited these video ! :)
For the size the Särmä one is greater in size that the model/brand shown here (all Särmä TST Thermal Cloak) it is a square of 2.16 meters by 2.16 meters when opened (85" x 85"), I have the winter insulated one.
Some considerations for the Särmä (probably same for others cloak things) it is not waterproof but very water resistant, with zippers and corners, there are 'gaps' at corners, and not waterprooof zippers (you see light through them)) => (very)water resistant waterproof
=> certainly a super blanket, a super poncho (must used to use it ;)) and a far better option for a urgency shelter comparing lil things you often see in Amazon or other places (= also usefull but not at all at same level, of course bulkier and more heavy ...)
=> personal consideration:
- I prefer the camo of Särmä ones (woodland/winter) than the Fjellduken ones ;) no opionions for others models form other brands
- You speak about price and you said Fjellduken is under Särmä .. interesting, what I've seen before buying mine some months ago was not really this (but the Särmä is not at all cheap that's for sure)
8:58 illuminati confirm
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my grandpa made an appearance on grunt proof! 8:57
Good stuff!
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I've been wanting to get my hands on one of these for years!
Good stuff
Gruntproof maybe, but is it KID proof? 🤣🤣🤣 The little monsters can destroy anything! A channel called Endurance Room has some really good videos on those products, I've wanted a Jerven Hunter since I first heard of them but $300 I can't justify. Maybe one of these days.
Fjellduken Extrem have 170 g Primaloft
Jelly
I have 1 and i test it and i like from iron wolf ❤😊
Only if a few US companies got on the band wagon, and being the price down reasonable.
It is actually 100% waterproof..
Except for the zippers and the grommets. The “exclusive” has waterproof zippers and is even more expensive.
More "exotic" gear. Look at the Zenbivvy. Not particularly grunt proof, but modular, lightweight and so comfortable you won't care. Base camp ;)
Thanks Randle. I have just used a trash bag to hold in warmth. These are all good products ! Thanks for all you do. Your reviews are no BS
Hi guys cant help you...later no its not food...dogs zeroed in here on backpack and rustling sounds . I'm guessing them dogs have had some MRE before 😅
if you hunt with that plastic tarp the animals hear you 2 weeks before you arrive ..I made my self a deer hide parka ..way better and warmer..not even need to wear anything underneath in minus 6 c..
I’m no hunter but I think it’s used while stationary waiting for the moose to come by.
It's too noisy.
Too Rich for my blood....and limited income...! sorry..! =)
Awesome presentation