Why great place to retire , because living in Indonesia doesn't have a lot of pressure , people can live relaxed without caring about social circles and don't care about any brand , especially if living in the countryside still maintains a culture of mutual cooperation or a culture helping each other
Before my retirement, I traveled to Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand for study tour to learn which country is best for me. All of them are not safe country for old people, some people tried to kill me in Thailand for money with me. I have not visited Indonesia yet but learnt from media that it is safe country for retiree.
You do it right! You do your due diligence and proper research. That's how it is being done. Indonesia is safe. One has to apply his/her common sense obviously.
A friend of mine spent about 6 months in Indonesia over 50 years ago, he spent his time travelling mostly in Java and Sulawesi. His experiences had a lasting effect on me as at that time it was a very unexplored country. Over time obviously Bali has become the main destination, but the rest of the country still is not on most people’s radar. I’ve been to Sumatra, Java and Lombok, there’s so much more to discover, that gets very little attention or promotion to the average tourist! Cambodia has the easiest visa!
My husband who Canadian prefer to retire in Indonesia, even he lost his canadian passport when he become indonesian citizen. As wanita Padang i like to stay in west Sumatera, just issue tell that people at west Sumatera is too religious, its nothing, people there are very well come to my husband. I think foreigner in indonesia can do anything job as long as he sitll maried Indonesian.
I like to go to towns in Indonesia that are high above sea level. You get beautiful nature, no pollution, firiendly locals and cool weather. The infrastructure in java island is quite good, esp the train and road system, and airports. E.g. Malang is a good place to retire, I think. If you don't like the pollution in Jakarta, can definitely consider smaller cities in Java (Semarang, Jogja, Solo). Semarang is developing quite fast, with good existing shopping malls (Queen, Paragon) and upcoming malls (Pakuwon). Bali is very congested, but Denpasar is actually not as bad as places like Canggu in terms of traffic. Also Denpasar has good shopping centres, and is not that far from Canggu and Ubud. Generally, life in Indonesia is more relaxed compared to places like Spore or some big cities in China. The family system is still very strong, so crime is low despite low income (young people can always go back to their families in the villages if they fail to get a decent job in the cities).
about visa, imo it worked effectively. change it and indonesia will stop being amiable towards her tourist. heck, indonesian has started to resent their fellows in bali already. just online though, but still count as powderkeg. two things; first, Indonesian acquired their independence by blood. they're proud of it, most of them now still dream to do it. now they can't obviously so they shift it towards family. as a foreigner you have to consider it seriously, even in big cities. second; in moslem's cultural guidance. you are required to entertain your guest. to make them feel welcomed for at least 3 days. longer is better but a person patience is finite. Indonesia is not a moslem country (they're proud of it btw) but everyone has ingrained this custom subconsciously. it means that you have to prevent them to think that you've overstayed. or worse, recognize you as a person in a bad way tldr; as a foreigner, its citizenship or nothing. as Indonesia don't accept dual. if you want women you're welcome to try. as 'fixing descendants (genes)' is still viewed as a positive
The simpler is to create a company (PTPMA) and employ yourself so you have a work permit. What about you Marcel ? You’re not at retirement age and yet you’re staying in Indonesia for a long time, no ?
I have watched many of your other videos on dating Indonesian women and you make it sound very accessible but in this video you seem to make it sound difficult. At least that is the feeling on got from this video. The infrastructure in the Phillippines sounds like a nightnere to me. I rather find a wife in Indonesia but I don't want to live in Jakarta. I thought Yogyakarta is not that bad for dating. I have not been but many girls have showed interest to me on Bumble. Of course, I don't know who good their English really is and I don't know if they will be gold diggers or something like that, or not.
Many Indonesian girls are interested in getting to know Western men. Eventually you have to put your boots on the ground in Indonesia and start meeting these women to find out for yourself if they suit you or not.
As long as you pay tax, abide by our rules, respect local tradition and norms, not make any waves and educate the indigenous unfortunates, your'e welcome.
The reason Thailand and the Philippines are more popular tourist/retiree destinations has very little to do with location and history. Thailand is popular because it has a more morally liberal society and it's infrastructure is decent. The Philippines Christian culture is more aligned with the western culture, and therefore more understood than the Indonesian Muslim culture. The Philippines also has a higher level of fluency in English, compared to most other Asian nations. Also, the Indonesian and Malaysian Muslim cultures require foreigners to convert to the Muslim religion in order to marry a Muslim bride 🤷
I think there are more women in Bali that have English. But there are also more jaded women in Bali because of the tourism. More women scammers like in the Philipines
Indonesia not only bali dude 😀if you meet women who work in nightclubs, yes many of them are a little deceptive, but if you meet women who work in offices or women who have their own business, they won't cheat on you
Thanks mate but not exactly a great summary for Indonesia more like reasons not to retire there would have been a better title, lol. I live in Bali btw and hardly any foreigners here in Denpasar. Its not all Seminyak, Kuta, Ubud here only..
As mentioned in my video: know what you want. If you wanna date like in the Philippines then Indonesia not your place. If you just want to retire, then yes!! Everyone has different goals (hopefully?!) and preferences. Know what you want and don't want!
Very bad place to retired , can’t even relaxing one day in bali , the bigger traffic in the world , the bigger pollution, average age Balinese age is 60 year old so is tragically age because of bad life , stressful etc , mostly coming to bali poor USA or Australia people who can afford stay in own countries. South Europe is the best for retired average age in 100 years old
It is not poor Americans, Australians or other Westerners who can not afford to live in their home countries any longer that move to Bali or other destinations. They simply DO NOT WANT to afford to live that overpriced lifestyle as in many Western countries. Those who are smart, managed to secure assets and funds make a move to places to protect their assets and where quality of life and value for many is far greater. But yeah sure, you might find a loser among them from time to time...
Indonesia is sooo big . Absolutely not bali if you want a quite place . Sukabumi , ambon , Sulawesi are so relaxing . Sun and cheap foods , good Hospitals and friendly people
Why great place to retire , because living in Indonesia doesn't have a lot of pressure , people can live relaxed without caring about social circles and don't care about any brand , especially if living in the countryside still maintains a culture of mutual cooperation or a culture helping each other
And very humble, decent people.
@@freedomfunwithjlbfriends7193 thanks, warm greetings from central java 🤝🤝🤝
Before my retirement, I traveled to Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand for study tour to learn which country is best for me. All of them are not safe country for old people, some people tried to kill me in Thailand for money with me. I have not visited Indonesia yet but learnt from media that it is safe country for retiree.
You do it right! You do your due diligence and proper research. That's how it is being done. Indonesia is safe. One has to apply his/her common sense obviously.
A friend of mine spent about 6 months in Indonesia over 50 years ago, he spent his time travelling mostly in Java and Sulawesi. His experiences had a lasting effect on me as at that time it was a very unexplored country. Over time obviously Bali has become the main destination, but the rest of the country still is not on most people’s radar. I’ve been to Sumatra, Java and Lombok, there’s so much more to discover, that gets very little attention or promotion to the average tourist! Cambodia has the easiest visa!
Yes, true. Indonesia is still way underrated in terms of tourism. Thanks for sharing.👍
My husband who Canadian prefer to retire in Indonesia, even he lost his canadian passport when he become indonesian citizen. As wanita Padang i like to stay in west Sumatera, just issue tell that people at west Sumatera is too religious, its nothing, people there are very well come to my husband. I think foreigner in indonesia can do anything job as long as he sitll maried Indonesian.
I like to go to towns in Indonesia that are high above sea level. You get beautiful nature, no pollution, firiendly locals and cool weather. The infrastructure in java island is quite good, esp the train and road system, and airports. E.g. Malang is a good place to retire, I think.
If you don't like the pollution in Jakarta, can definitely consider smaller cities in Java (Semarang, Jogja, Solo). Semarang is developing quite fast, with good existing shopping malls (Queen, Paragon) and upcoming malls (Pakuwon).
Bali is very congested, but Denpasar is actually not as bad as places like Canggu in terms of traffic. Also Denpasar has good shopping centres, and is not that far from Canggu and Ubud.
Generally, life in Indonesia is more relaxed compared to places like Spore or some big cities in China. The family system is still very strong, so crime is low despite low income (young people can always go back to their families in the villages if they fail to get a decent job in the cities).
Thanks for sharing!👍 Interesting what you said in regards to crime.
Magelang, salatiga, malang, etc good towns to retire.
As you mentioned i will be dating actively in my retirement. Indonesia is not a place to retire for me. Thailand wins.
If you had to retire today and were of retirement age, where would you retire?
Indonesia or Philippines.
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about visa, imo it worked effectively. change it and indonesia will stop being amiable towards her tourist. heck, indonesian has started to resent their fellows in bali already. just online though, but still count as powderkeg.
two things; first, Indonesian acquired their independence by blood. they're proud of it, most of them now still dream to do it. now they can't obviously so they shift it towards family. as a foreigner you have to consider it seriously, even in big cities.
second; in moslem's cultural guidance. you are required to entertain your guest. to make them feel welcomed for at least 3 days. longer is better but a person patience is finite. Indonesia is not a moslem country (they're proud of it btw) but everyone has ingrained this custom subconsciously. it means that you have to prevent them to think that you've overstayed. or worse, recognize you as a person in a bad way
tldr; as a foreigner, its citizenship or nothing. as Indonesia don't accept dual. if you want women you're welcome to try. as 'fixing descendants (genes)' is still viewed as a positive
The simpler is to create a company (PTPMA) and employ yourself so you have a work permit.
What about you Marcel ? You’re not at retirement age and yet you’re staying in Indonesia for a long time, no ?
On and off, momentarily.
@@MinimalistNomad After 2 month flying to Malaysia and than right back to Indonesia e.g?
I have watched many of your other videos on dating Indonesian women and you make it sound very accessible but in this video you seem to make it sound difficult. At least that is the feeling on got from this video. The infrastructure in the Phillippines sounds like a nightnere to me. I rather find a wife in Indonesia but I don't want to live in Jakarta. I thought Yogyakarta is not that bad for dating. I have not been but many girls have showed interest to me on Bumble. Of course, I don't know who good their English really is and I don't know if they will be gold diggers or something like that, or not.
Many Indonesian girls are interested in getting to know Western men. Eventually you have to put your boots on the ground in Indonesia and start meeting these women to find out for yourself if they suit you or not.
If you already retirement age for retirement visa or you have wife visa to stay there thx
If I wanted a larger age gap relationship than 25 years, would you recommend the Phillipines as my number one choice?
Yes. Or Thailand.
I was considering Indonesia but I want an age gaps relationship of 25 years or more. It seems that’s not easy there. Thank you
As long as you pay tax, abide by our rules, respect local tradition and norms, not make any waves and educate the indigenous unfortunates, your'e welcome.
What are some traditions, norms
Very beautiful country with great people
Retirement visa age is now 60...🙏🕉
The reason Thailand and the Philippines are more popular tourist/retiree destinations has very little to do with location and history. Thailand is popular because it has a more morally liberal society and it's infrastructure is decent. The Philippines Christian culture is more aligned with the western culture, and therefore more understood than the Indonesian Muslim culture. The Philippines also has a higher level of fluency in English, compared to most other Asian nations. Also, the Indonesian and Malaysian Muslim cultures require foreigners to convert to the Muslim religion in order to marry a Muslim bride 🤷
I think there are more women in Bali that have English. But there are also more jaded women in Bali because of the tourism. More women scammers like in the Philipines
Indonesia not only bali dude 😀if you meet women who work in nightclubs, yes many of them are a little deceptive, but if you meet women who work in offices or women who have their own business, they won't cheat on you
@@rhuning2875👍👍
Any video on sulawesi manado
Not at the moment since I have not traveled there yet...
Thanks mate but not exactly a great summary for Indonesia more like reasons not to retire there would have been a better title, lol. I live in Bali btw and hardly any foreigners here in Denpasar. Its not all Seminyak, Kuta, Ubud here only..
Also go to the channel Whats Up Bali and there are plenty of different visas he explains.
As mentioned in my video: know what you want. If you wanna date like in the Philippines then Indonesia not your place. If you just want to retire, then yes!! Everyone has different goals (hopefully?!) and preferences. Know what you want and don't want!
@@MinimalistNomad Yes, but by even knowing what you want the content did not really fit the title. But your other videos were good.
With even with just 300Usd you can live a month
Very bad place to retired , can’t even relaxing one day in bali , the bigger traffic in the world , the bigger pollution, average age Balinese age is 60 year old so is tragically age because of bad life , stressful etc , mostly coming to bali poor USA or Australia people who can afford stay in own countries. South Europe is the best for retired average age in 100 years old
Don't retire in Bali then. There are many area less stressfull than Bali
It is not poor Americans, Australians or other Westerners who can not afford to live in their home countries any longer that move to Bali or other destinations. They simply DO NOT WANT to afford to live that overpriced lifestyle as in many Western countries. Those who are smart, managed to secure assets and funds make a move to places to protect their assets and where quality of life and value for many is far greater. But yeah sure, you might find a loser among them from time to time...
Indonesia is sooo big . Absolutely not bali if you want a quite place . Sukabumi , ambon , Sulawesi are so relaxing . Sun and cheap foods , good Hospitals and friendly people