Personally I'm not into the whole rack packing / supple scene as a participant but I love all thinks cycling and appreciate the high quality and very informative videos you produce. Also stoked to see that you are coming up on 100K subs! You are definitely one of the hardest working youtubers in the cycling space so I wish you continued success! Keep up the good work!
Just got this, same color full size. I love waxed canvas bc it’s a timeless material and the liner inside is totally waterproof so I can trust this in rain and snow. The connection straps underneath are absurdly too long. I may cut them. No porteur rack is that big. You gotta tighten them down hard to keep the bag from sliding all over as you ride. I wish the deployable tie-down straps were removable or at least less bulky. I won’t use them often and I would like the space open in the flap pocket on top for papers, tickets, etc. the phone/wallet pockets that face the cockpit are awesome but might be slightly too small for big phones. The bottom of the bag being semi rigid is nice but I would love more padding as I put my work laptop in there and don’t want dings. I don’t love the plastic buckles and would prefer a more premium metal clasp for the money this costs. Biggest strength of this bag is its surprising capacity for the form factor. You can fit so much in here, like way more than you’d think. But when it’s not too full it rolls down nice and sleek without taking up much space at all. Very versatile bag and it’s nice to not need a wald basket. Excited to put it to the test this winter. Wish there were more color options in the canvas.
This so reminds me of putting drop bars on my rigid mtb back in the 90s - along with a front rack, and just chilling in the woods. As I recall I used a regular blackburn rear rack and cut it in half. Things have come a long way since then apparently :)
That looks fantastic. I had been using my front rack to strap down random stuff or a sausage roll with my sleeping gear, but that is handy! The larger one fits my rack on my porteur bike just about perfectly.
great review! thanks edit: your complaint around attaching it to the back is solved by their MASH SF version, the third version of this bag. The mash sf version has a sleeve in the back to tuck it in
Hi, I was wondering how conservative ILE's numbers were, they say 16 litres when rolled down and water tight but how much leeway is there? like if you put more in does it still roll down ok? I just can't decide whether it's quite big enough for a full commutes worth of stuff - clothes, lunchbox, laptop, etc.
I’ve gone with the basket packing life rather than the demi porteur. I like the structure and flexibility that the 137 gives me ... I’ve got four different bags that can fit well in the basket, and all I use is one Rokstrap to hold it all in place. But I can certainly appreciate that this setup allows for oversized items much more easily.
I’ve had a version of this bag made for MASH SF for the last two years. Mine a Xpac version and I’ve found it to be water resistant and super adaptable. ILE makes some other really cool off the bike bags. I’ve used the mini camera bag for a number of years, all their bags are thoughtfully designed.
@@julian-w5h the Mash one is constructed specifically to fit the Mash front rack. It has corners on the bottom of the bag and a slot for the back of the rack. Wavey Wheelies on UA-cam has a full breakdown of the bag and rack.
I was just looking at these! I picked up a Pelago front rack last week and have been searching for bag options. Would’ve loved a side by side with the larger size or a more detailed test-pack. Thanks for the review!
Hey Russ I've got a bag hack you could pilot if you're interested. I use a "North Face XS Base Camp Duffle" and replaced the side-cinching pieces with buckles so I can strap it to my front rack. More of a porteur sized setup but works well on and off the bike! :) Keep up the good stuff. Love the channel
hi @nxross1, your idea sounds great and simply creative! i would like to see your bag hack very much! would you mind send me (a) picture(s) for inspiration? DM possible. thank you.
Be great if you could advise when these innovations (which are all about practicality and have nothing to do with image) are slated to go out of fashion? I mean, we all know one day there will be discarded Demi Porteur racks and bags gathering dust in the garages of Oregon and California, but will it be in 2023 or 2024?
Looks like a real nice bag. What would your preference be. Between this bag and a rack or a basket and basket bag?.... thinking general daily riding and grocery shopping as well as occasional bikepacking.
While my current bag set up works, I am (like many here) a degenerate and always looking to get something else. I like the looks of this bag...Russ, did you ever do a full review on the Sackville bag that you had on the Riv? I'm leaning that way because it'd be a perfect fit for a laptop, couple books, layers, etc... for a work commute.
so what gets me with the design and its typical of all the rack bags/ saddle bags out there is the lack of internal structure on the bottom, back and sides, it would be great if a bag maker would make bags that held their shape when empty and or not completely full, kinda how motorcycle saddle bags work.
I assume, so called rando bags would be the thing you are looking for? at least, there is a different concept between this (demi)-porteur bag and rando bags, which have more structure.
hey can you maybe take a look at the Atran Velo Fiets Transport Bakkersrek. if you search that you'll probably find it. its on a dutch site so the shipping could be really expensive in wich case you don't have to review it. it a little front rack for a little under 12,50 dollars wich is dangerously cheap. id love to hear from you and as always, keep the supple side down
No reply to any emails or comments on their IG page in long long time. I personally wouldn’t order anything from them until they publicly explain the utter lack of communication to customers for the last 9 months. They seem to be belly up, but with no confirmation either way. Very strange behavior.
Is it just me, or does the term "rackpacking" seem designed to passive-aggressively trigger the type of traditional fully loaded tourer who makes threads angrily questioning the difference between touring and bikepacking? Find some old bicentennial tourer huddled up in the fetal position, rocking back and forth with cold tears on their cheeks, darkly muttering about how racks with bags *is* touring...
Personally I'm not into the whole rack packing / supple scene as a participant but I love all thinks cycling and appreciate the high quality and very informative videos you produce. Also stoked to see that you are coming up on 100K subs! You are definitely one of the hardest working youtubers in the cycling space so I wish you continued success! Keep up the good work!
Dang, those extra straps for awkward boxes and the internal handle straps just sold me.
Demi means half.
Important to note, I believe they use a welded construction on their liner so it is in fact fully waterproof.
Just got this, same color full size. I love waxed canvas bc it’s a timeless material and the liner inside is totally waterproof so I can trust this in rain and snow. The connection straps underneath are absurdly too long. I may cut them. No porteur rack is that big. You gotta tighten them down hard to keep the bag from sliding all over as you ride. I wish the deployable tie-down straps were removable or at least less bulky. I won’t use them often and I would like the space open in the flap pocket on top for papers, tickets, etc. the phone/wallet pockets that face the cockpit are awesome but might be slightly too small for big phones. The bottom of the bag being semi rigid is nice but I would love more padding as I put my work laptop in there and don’t want dings. I don’t love the plastic buckles and would prefer a more premium metal clasp for the money this costs. Biggest strength of this bag is its surprising capacity for the form factor. You can fit so much in here, like way more than you’d think. But when it’s not too full it rolls down nice and sleek without taking up much space at all. Very versatile bag and it’s nice to not need a wald basket. Excited to put it to the test this winter. Wish there were more color options in the canvas.
This so reminds me of putting drop bars on my rigid mtb back in the 90s - along with a front rack, and just chilling in the woods. As I recall I used a regular blackburn rear rack and cut it in half. Things have come a long way since then apparently :)
That looks fantastic. I had been using my front rack to strap down random stuff or a sausage roll with my sleeping gear, but that is handy! The larger one fits my rack on my porteur bike just about perfectly.
I've had my eye on that bag ever since I got my nfe. Thanks for reviewing it Russ.
great review! thanks edit: your complaint around attaching it to the back is solved by their MASH SF version, the third version of this bag. The mash sf version has a sleeve in the back to tuck it in
I've had this bag for about 2 years and I love it.
Hi, I was wondering how conservative ILE's numbers were, they say 16 litres when rolled down and water tight but how much leeway is there? like if you put more in does it still roll down ok? I just can't decide whether it's quite big enough for a full commutes worth of stuff - clothes, lunchbox, laptop, etc.
@@marcusjslee these are mine same questions.. If u had found some answer please let me notice. Thanks
Great video about fondling a sac. Keep'em comming.
I’ve gone with the basket packing life rather than the demi porteur. I like the structure and flexibility that the 137 gives me ... I’ve got four different bags that can fit well in the basket, and all I use is one Rokstrap to hold it all in place. But I can certainly appreciate that this setup allows for oversized items much more easily.
I’ve had a version of this bag made for MASH SF for the last two years. Mine a Xpac version and I’ve found it to be water resistant and super adaptable. ILE makes some other really cool off the bike bags. I’ve used the mini camera bag for a number of years, all their bags are thoughtfully designed.
Do you know what the difference is between the Mash SF one and the regular one?
@@julian-w5h the Mash one is constructed specifically to fit the Mash front rack. It has corners on the bottom of the bag and a slot for the back of the rack. Wavey Wheelies on UA-cam has a full breakdown of the bag and rack.
I was just looking at these! I picked up a Pelago front rack last week and have been searching for bag options. Would’ve loved a side by side with the larger size or a more detailed test-pack. Thanks for the review!
Chicks would go crazy if I owned a bag like that
ahahahah
Hey Russ I've got a bag hack you could pilot if you're interested. I use a "North Face XS Base Camp Duffle" and replaced the side-cinching pieces with buckles so I can strap it to my front rack. More of a porteur sized setup but works well on and off the bike! :) Keep up the good stuff. Love the channel
hi @nxross1, your idea sounds great and simply creative!
i would like to see your bag hack very much! would you mind send me (a) picture(s) for inspiration?
DM possible.
thank you.
I like anything Demi, including Demi Moore. I wish I used my non-competitive bike for more utilitarian uses.
Love this set up.
I am waiting for the very controversial “Demi Porteur” pronunciation expert video and stickers/pins ✌🏽🤣
Be great if you could advise when these innovations (which are all about practicality and have nothing to do with image) are slated to go out of fashion? I mean, we all know one day there will be discarded Demi Porteur racks and bags gathering dust in the garages of Oregon and California, but will it be in 2023 or 2024?
Looks like a real nice bag. What would your preference be. Between this bag and a rack or a basket and basket bag?.... thinking general daily riding and grocery shopping as well as occasional bikepacking.
I think a short section of daisy-chain on the backside would allow you to mount your home-made gps/phone mount in a good place.
Very nice looking bag! Thanks for the demo!
While my current bag set up works, I am (like many here) a degenerate and always looking to get something else. I like the looks of this bag...Russ, did you ever do a full review on the Sackville bag that you had on the Riv? I'm leaning that way because it'd be a perfect fit for a laptop, couple books, layers, etc... for a work commute.
+1 for degenerates 😄
A lot of similar features to the Wizard Works basket bag, minus the "tub" construction of the bottom section.
This bag has been around for a few years. I believe Wizard Works got the inspiration for that closure flap from them
6:44 - Choice of words 😆
Very cool and great price point. Looks like it will age very well.
I’m Moore and Moore concerned I’m gonna need to learn French if I want to continue watching this channel...
Great review, Russ. I just bought one for myself.
What xero shoes is that box from? I love my Toronto’s.
Thanks for these great reviews!
What bag would you recommend for Soma's Champs Elysees mini rack
"demi" means "half" in french.
so what gets me with the design and its typical of all the rack bags/ saddle bags out there is the lack of internal structure on the bottom, back and sides, it would be great if a bag maker would make bags that held their shape when empty and or not completely full, kinda how motorcycle saddle bags work.
I assume, so called rando bags would be the thing you are looking for?
at least, there is a different concept between this (demi)-porteur bag and rando bags, which have more structure.
hey can you maybe take a look at the Atran Velo Fiets Transport Bakkersrek. if you search that you'll probably find it. its on a dutch site so the shipping could be really expensive in wich case you don't have to review it. it a little front rack for a little under 12,50 dollars wich is dangerously cheap. id love to hear from you and as always, keep the supple side down
What happened to Rawland though? Are they still in business?
No reply to any emails or comments on their IG page in long long time. I personally wouldn’t order anything from them until they publicly explain the utter lack of communication to customers for the last 9 months. They seem to be belly up, but with no confirmation either way. Very strange behavior.
@@WordupG I haven't tried to communicate with them but I did order struts from Rawland in April.
Ye nice bag 👍🏼
Look at the @don’tshootme vest. A very Montana accessory. Nice review with good definitions.
Cool Cool 😎
Demi is French for half.
BTW Was your mic clipping? Seemed like it in my watching.
Cool stuff
why you don't use mudguards?
*full mudguards
How would that fit in a Wald basket?
based on the dimensions, you'd want to use the larger Wald 139, as it's 15'" wide by 10" deep. As long as the buckles fit, it should work fine
Is it just me, or does the term "rackpacking" seem designed to passive-aggressively trigger the type of traditional fully loaded tourer who makes threads angrily questioning the difference between touring and bikepacking? Find some old bicentennial tourer huddled up in the fetal position, rocking back and forth with cold tears on their cheeks, darkly muttering about how racks with bags *is* touring...
Is it horrible i moved in with my parents at 40 so i can afford to live the supple life and live just to ride?😬
Demi means "half"
Demi means Moore...😄
Price is ridiculous expensive.
It’s not free. There are more expensive options. ua-cam.com/video/xzr6jhXy3KE/v-deo.html