Justice in Palestine... But For Whom? | Victor Kattan

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  • Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
  • The power and apparent failings of international law in Palestine are questions on everyone's minds right now. In this episode of This is Not a Watermelon, professor Victor Kattan walks us through the scope and remit of international law, the legalities of occupation and invasion, and the state of international law today. Tracking back through the 20th century, Victor reflects on whether the makers of the Balfour Declaration and Mandates for Palestine would call their "great experiment" a success. He touches on the "Jewish question" in Europe, apartheid as a form of genocide, and the likelihood of a functioning Palestinian State. Finally, he looks at South Africa's case against Israel and to the question of whether justice in Palestine is ever possible (and if so, in what form and for whom?)
    This episode was recorded on May 21st, 2024 at 5pm Palestine time.
    0:00 Introduction
    1:58 Interest in Palestine
    5:37 Scope of International Law in Palestine
    9:58 Legality of Occupation & Invasion
    12:30 Time Limitations on Accountability for War Crimes
    14:05 International Law Today
    22:28 Mapping Success of Mandate for Palestine
    25:06 "Colonization Scheme for East Africa"
    28:50 The Jewish Question to Zionism
    30:33 Mandates A, B & C
    35:53 Likelihood of a Palestinian State
    38:16 Apartheid As Genocide
    40:04 South Africa's Case in the ICJ
    44:56 US University Protest Encampments
    53:07 Is Justice Possible In Palestine?
    Victor Kattan is an Assistant Professor at the University of Nottingham School of Law, where he is writing a book on apartheid as a crime against humanity. He was previously awarded consecutive postdoctoral awards and fellowships at the National University of Singapore (2013-2020). He is a member of the Editorial Board of The Asian Journal of International Law and is Area Editor for the Middle East and Islam for Oxford Bibliographies of International Law.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 43

  • @agnikollias6678
    @agnikollias6678 14 днів тому +12

    Colonialism no MORE !!!!
    Imperialistic GAMES NO
    MORE !!!
    Palestine 🇵🇸 must be FREE

  • @bsahmed1
    @bsahmed1 16 днів тому +12

    There was peace between Muslims, Christians and Jews living in Palestine until 1917, when colonial settlers from Europe invaded the country, displaced and dispossessed the indigenous inhabitants, and stole their land. It accelerated to a massive scale during late 1947 especially in the first half of 1948. The first village to be fully cleaned was the village of Qisarya, which had 1500 inhabitants, was on February 15, 1948. The peak of the massacres happened on April 9, 1948, during which 750,000 Palestinians out of the 900,000 who lived in the territories that became Israel fled or were expelled from their homes. Then some ill-equipped and ill-armed Arab armies came to the rescue of the Palestinians, but by the time they arrived in mid May, 1948 it was already late. They were defeated by the superior Israeli army in their so called war of independence on May 15, 1948. The majority of the native Palestinian inhabitants have thus become refugees, some internally in the west bank and Gaza and others outside their country especially in the surrounding countries. Their homes were demolished and mines were placed in order to prevent them to going back to their villages and towns. The Israeli government soon after passed a law preventing the refugees from coming back to reclaim their property.

    • @beniluv3250
      @beniluv3250 14 днів тому

      There was a european colonialism in the levant from before 1917, they are called the ottoman. And no, there was no peacefulness under them either.

    • @bobtaleb9029
      @bobtaleb9029 10 днів тому

      Liar.

  • @BellyLaugher
    @BellyLaugher 17 днів тому +8

    This is really helpful, thanks very much for inviting Prof. Kattan & for such thoughtful questions. Great idea to ask for book recommendations.

    • @sbaigful
      @sbaigful 16 днів тому

      😊

    • @afikra
      @afikra  15 днів тому

      Glad you found it useful! Keep an eye out for a Daftar article on professor Kattan's book recommendations. We'll also paste the link in the UA-cam description once it is released.

  • @shortclips4267
    @shortclips4267 16 днів тому +8

    Mikey, thank you for the great interview!!

    • @afikra
      @afikra  15 днів тому

      Our pleasure! We're glad you found it helpful!

  • @SamBahour
    @SamBahour 16 днів тому +3

    Brillant session. Thanks all.

    • @afikra
      @afikra  15 днів тому

      We're glad you found it useful!

  • @786GG
    @786GG 15 днів тому +3

    for basic human rights
    justice for basic human rights

  • @kathleentrinity7367
    @kathleentrinity7367 16 днів тому +3

    I have been wondering about these same questions of occupation. Thank you for a pointed discussion that clarifies what is acceptable and what is not under international law.There is so much "might makes right" and "anything goes" thinking that this discussion is refreshing and much needed.

    • @afikra
      @afikra  15 днів тому

      We're glad you found it helpful!

  • @megantaylor4189
    @megantaylor4189 16 днів тому +3

    Such an interesting conversation, thank you. Just as a rank outsider, sorry if this is just wide of the mark, but wouldn't it be better for Palestinians to accept a state however it is and work from there? Go ahead then and expand, annexe, whatever, but one thing Israeli's did was get in and make institutions and solidify their presence. From this discussion is seems Palestine has never had any sort of law on its side. Such brilliant people, brilliant minds, amazing culture. What could be done from a small base? Sorry if this is bone ignorant....

  • @inhumanesocietyusa
    @inhumanesocietyusa 10 днів тому

    My brother Justice is when the law findings are made public… to the people

  • @yhamilajojo8847
    @yhamilajojo8847 10 днів тому +1

    عفكرة.... الف شكر

  • @zeenatnahaboo7442
    @zeenatnahaboo7442 4 дні тому +1

    I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE PRISONERS FROM ISRAELIS PRISON BACK HOME?? ANYBODY CAN ANSWER ME PLEASE THANK YOU😢

  • @aprettysunset
    @aprettysunset 12 днів тому

    That's very insightful video. Had no idea ab so much stuff discussed there. Def great recommends

    • @zeenatnahaboo7442
      @zeenatnahaboo7442 4 дні тому

      I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE PRISONERS FROM ISRAELIS JAIL BACK HOME ?? ANYONE CAN ANSWER ME PLEASE ?? THANK YOU😢

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786 13 днів тому +1

    Final solution for the Europeans becomes a nightmare for the Palestinians?

  • @inhumanesocietyusa
    @inhumanesocietyusa 10 днів тому

    Is funny how Justice is…this happened 2000 years ago..same people same land…

  • @noamto
    @noamto 16 днів тому +2

    Why do you support the Ottoman colonial occupation before the British and don't define that as occupation?

    • @noamto
      @noamto 16 днів тому

      @@otho69AD Like what they did with the Armenians?

    • @noamto
      @noamto 16 днів тому

      @@otho69AD And if you approve of the Ottoman occupation, stop lying and saying that you are against occupation.

    • @Knowmore55555
      @Knowmore55555 16 днів тому

      @@noamtoit has been documented that when Russian empire used to attack Ottoman Empire , then Armenia used to support Russia

    • @noamto
      @noamto 16 днів тому

      @@Knowmore55555 and?

    • @Fatehali-yg3ky
      @Fatehali-yg3ky 16 днів тому +1

      That was in response to the Circassian genocide against Muslims. Stop playing victims ​@@noamto

  • @joylarson9040
    @joylarson9040 15 днів тому

    Next week😅

  • @irenezafar966
    @irenezafar966 15 днів тому

    if it's justice it must benefit the palestinians but will do no injustice to the israel7s

  • @zinaboltan5159
    @zinaboltan5159 11 днів тому +1

    Parts of the land were given to Jordan and Lebanon, but Palestinians never talked about these occupations. They want to destroy Israel.

  • @Gio.761
    @Gio.761 15 днів тому

    Talk talk