Yeah I'd say in top 5 is gonna be the cz p-10, glocks (19 or the slim ones) and probably the hs product h11 aka hellcat. Sigs are quite expensive and hard to get. I've never seen anybody with HK handgun on the range.
@@tomasteply1956 in Poland if you include Police top 3 i think can be Glock's, Walther PDP, CZ P-10s.. next i don't know.. maybe Canik or Beretta APX? SiG pistols are not worth the price in EU, it's like 2x US prices and you can't swap as much in them as in US due to regulations.
Keep in mind: Even though Austrian gun law is quite liberal, owning a firearm isn't a constitutional right here. It's a mere privilege granted by the government. And not just anybody can carry their firearm in public. That's mostly reserved for police, military, and other professions that are dealing with potentially dangerous situations and environments (e. g. security, taxi drivers, hunters, money transport, etc.).
@@Stevarooni Estonia has shall issue CCW as well and if I remember well Latvia and Lithuanias as well. Slovakia needs a reason, but supposedly it is not to difficult (e.g. you have a business doing cash transactions and need to protect yourself to go to the bank). Switzerland if you get caught you might get a fine and be barred from buying guns for two years (but you can keep what you already have)...🤐
Oh..K. I guess then “concealed carry” isn’t for civilians. It’s like what the progressives want to enact in the U.S. - Only for Government and the protection of money…People (self defense) can just twist in the wind.
CCW permit in Poland is very easy to obtain, you just need a license for sport shooting (which is fairly easy to obtain for everyone), and then CCW comes with it in pack ;)
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 Depends on the country, for example in Czech Republic you can carry and say someone enters your house or you're in a self defense scenario, if say your friend/partner has to use your firearm to protect yourself, you're still "legally covered", Czechs have it pretty awesome in that aspect, probably better than in the US, sadly it's only one country of 10M population out of Europe that has such laws/regulations in place.
@@hunterfabio Yep, sad that every state handles it differently too. My state requires me to jump out of my second story bedroom and keep running if someone enters. Not gonna happen but that's what they want.
Thank you for this interesting video. There is one important point about the lesser popularity of SIG SAUER and S&W in Europe. The problem is not that they are U.S. made. The problem is that, at least in some European countries, the service is pathetic. It is for example, almost unpossible to get spare magazine and spare pieces for some of their firearms. If these compagnies were investing the efforts needed to have serious service in Europe, the situation could change quite quickly.
Except that these are the only locally produced firearms. All the other ones, including the new P210, are produced in the US. Swissarms is a very Small company and this is all that remains in Europe.
since Sig is only made in the US the QC is so poor that it makes no sence to buy one and trus a life on it. M&P are just very rare to get, for what ever reason.
@@marie-noellebaechler1433 FYI, "Swiss Arms" legally changed its name to "SIG Sauer AG" (different from the American SIG Sauer, Inc. and the now-defunct German SIG Sauer GmbH) as of 2019 and they still only sell to the Swiss market.
I love this kind of gun content from other countries! I've read Paraguay have pretty relaxed civilian gun ownership laws - especially for Latin America. Chile, too, surprisingly. Perhaps a couple TFBtv videos from South America one day?
I was thinking something similar. Ecuador relaxed gun laws not too long ago, I’m pretty sure CC is allowed now. Colombia, Argentina and Brazil make some decent firearms.
I'm French/South African I can confirm in South Africa cc is pretty common in France it is possible given very special situations like being a jewelry shop worker or in something similar but getting guns in France is way less complicated than in South Africa.
Well I'm not into guns so much, however I've never heard about black trident here in CZ. We have some local holsters makers. So I would say that this will be heavily leaned toward DE/AT/CH region.
@@MarvinCZ yup, that is what I have for my Shadow 2 as well. However I don't know if they are best (what that actually mean ;-) or just most popular :-)
It's great!! However it's significantly thicker and heavier than the micros we've been spoiled with in the US, so I wouldn't go for it personally. Still a fantastic firearm tho.
As an european LAW member, i saw 3 greats brands for service carry, based on my country -Glock. In my country it's for special service, mostly gen 3: i have see some operators wearig worn custom glocks -sig sauer for general service member, but some sof still use it. The sp2022, german and us made, and the new Xcarry -Hs product 2000 (now as springfiel XD in us) gain a lots of fame on certain service. On civilian market, the Canik brands gain a lots Other europeans use lots of hk pistol a lots, Cz ones, walher in service. Glocks obviously, S&w mp in belgium
Im from the Czech Republic. It is always hard or harder to get a gun that is not being manufactured in the EU. The reason is that we are a very small market for US producers. Another problem are spare parts. For example I own a Sig MPX (price in CR 3000 USD) and Sig P365 X-Macro COMP (price in CR 1400 USD) and the are no spare parts to buy, not even a recoil springs. Btw Sig treats us as subcustomers, they dont even reply to questions - how sad and warranty is non existent. The fact that US shops do not ship outside US (law) makes getting something very difficult, expensive and it takes time. I wanted a SW Shield EZ 380 for my wife and it would take 1 to 2 years to get it, so I found one piece in Italy and had to go there to buy it.
Same here in Switzerland, if you have a US made pistol it takes forever to get spare parts, and you can forget about any warranty, many buy Czech, Austrian, Slovakian and Slovenian firearms, at least we can get spare parts. With AR-15 it's a bit better as there are many European made spare parts in case you have a US made AR-15 model. You might want to look at Wolff gunsprings in case you need springs, there are periods where they ship to Europe, in case you springs for a specific firearm.
That's why Glock rules! In Romania I can get a spare part on the spot. If the part is not in stock they will disassemble a new gun and give you the part you need!👌
CC should be legal everywhere in EU - we have good examples that it works well, e.g. in CZ. In Germany, civilians can only CC as hunters in their assigned hunting area, exceptions are some few politicians or e.g. judges, according to public media…
tell that the fcking EU commission, they will laugh their asses off. But how things are going in europe, it´s safe to say that Open Carry will be a thing and now one will give a fck about that.
@@UgandanAirForce yes, but even they have a hard time getting a permit - an alcoholic can gain back a drivers license, but CC is waay too dangerous for society 🤣🤪🤷🏻♂️
S&W isn't that uncommon in Belgium for example. Perhaps not so common in Austria? It depends on the gun store and which brands they import. Glocks are indeed the easiest to get though. Unfortunately we cannot have a CCW in Belgium, would do it immediately if it was allowed! Love the exposure, some europeans love guns as much as our American friends! Keep up with the cool videos!
@danielmckraken5160 I agree 100% on the protect yourself and those you love and i will act accordingly when needed but i am not breaking the law and ending up in jail because i unlawfully carried a CCW in public. But that's my action/opinion.
@KommBat The M&P 9 is indeed the service weapon of the federal police but i don't think that is the only reason; S&W firearms are just common to be imported i think. The revolvers are very popular as wel, just as the ones from Ruger are too.
CCW is allowed in Belgium, as in: you need a valid (legal) reason to get a permit, be it a permit “to keep” or “to carry” a firearm. But if you have such a permit, you can - must, actually, carry concealed. And yes, those permits are still being granted. Please educate yourself.
@@nla0079 To keep as in you can have a firearm at home to take at a shooting range. The only kind of carry permit i know of is for people that A) have to carry a weapon on the job; ea security (money transport,...) or B) a person that has a reason to believe that he is in permanent danger (ea a lawyer that can prove he has been threatened by for example a drug cartel that he plead against). The latter exist but is very rare though. You cannot just carry a CCW just because you want. It was that i was implying and yes, i am not a lawyer and you perhaps are one getting on his high horse for reading my comment wrong but implying that i have to educate myself is rather rude.
Wolfgang was right that gun rights here in Austria are still RELATIVELY permissive, you can get probably pretty much the same guns as you can in the US, as long as you have a permit. Where it gets tricky is carrying them, because with a standard license you're only allowed to 'transport' = unloaded, ammo stored separately, quickest way from A to B (usually home-range, range-home), in a closed container (like a range bag, peli-case etc.) only. The special permit needed for carrying (does not make a distinction between concealed or not, but very little point in open carry if you're not in uniform) is barely ever handed out. Policemen of course can get it, and private security personnel usually too. There was a time when Taxi drivers got robbed often and they could get them too, but that has passed. Unless you're either police or stand in front of a jewellers shop in a Securitas polo shirt for a job, forget about a carry permit.
It's only relatively easy to get concealed carry in Czech Republic, because the background checks to get a weapons license is very thorough, as it should be. I love how American gun enthusiasts try to hide or obfuscate those facts, because it goes against the fetishized gun culture of the US. I say this as a person who likes guns and shoots pretty regularly.
I was kinda surprised cz wasn’t on this list. I know there not as popular as glock smith or sig in the u.s but the Czech Republic being in Europe I would have figured they would be common. They make very good pistols and I’m a fan personally.
This was for Austria and Germany, maybe Switzerland, not all of Europe. We have our own popular holster makers in Czechia. You would see CZs and Glocks here.
@MarvinCZ With CZs so readily available, why would anyone buy a Glock? The difference in triggers alone is enough, and don't try to tell me that Glocks are more reliable than CZs.
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Because there's practically no difference in price. CZ here cost as much as a comparable Glock does. So people often go for the higher perceived quality,
I finally just picked up my first HK. P30L V3, no safety. I can’t believe I slept this long on this series of pistols. The ergos are incredible. Trigger isn’t terrible. I can’t see myself carrying it but god damn what platform.
My fiance has a 2000 sk and we have found the mag release to be very uncomfortable and often painful after a day of shooting. It is now regulated to the end of the line for use.
are you using your thumb or your trigger finger? highly recommend using your trigger finger and barely rotating your grip, using your thumb like an american gun makes you rotate the gun a bunch and the angle you have to press down at is uncomfortable, but if you use the trigger finger it is incredibly fast and easy. after getting my 2k i waay prefer the paddle release to using anything with a button.
i also recommend getting the extended mag release from the hk45c and putting it on the 2k, it fits on basically any paddle release hk. all you have to do is punch out a roll pin and put the new part in, really easy
@aubrey_d the pain is the shape and location of the mag release. It digs in to the hand on both sides. Releasing the mag on it can be a bit of a job too.
@aubrey_d I have tried several different ways of releasing the mag. I prefer my 1911 style release on most guns but even the slider release on my Ruger P85 is a far smoother operation. I would even prefer a heel release over the one on this 2000.
Jup. Regular Citizens are only allowed to take their firearms to the range and back in a container or bag and the ammo has to be in a seperate container or section of the range bag. People who work dangerous jobs can apply for open carry licences and open carry while on the job in uniform. Or concealed carry in plain clothes, depending on the limitations of the open carry licence.
I was most surprised when I didn't see a USP because I don't even think about HK's newer pistols. And I'd be carrying fullsize in the winter months with heavier clothes, so G17>G19/43/43X.
As a german i have never thought about how hard the name Wolfgang goes in english. It's kind of an old people name here Obviously the connotation with the name may be different in austria
They had a lot of time since Van Halen. Saying Wolf and gang is easy AF. It gets funny when they try to say Heckler & Koch and H&K even puts it wrong in their FAQ of the english website to maybe make it easier.
@@professorlayabout4878 yeah... Funnily wolf is wolf aswell in german and the English word gang is in common use aswell, but somehow... Doesn't send the same message in german
One thing to note when comparing prices is, retail prices over here in Europe are including VAT. So the Austrian prices mentioned are already including the 20% VAT. A 700 EUR retail price Glock would therefore be 765 USD including the VAT, or 640 USD without VAT.
I visited a Johann Springer in Vienna one time back in 2018, Glocks were retailing for about 650 Euros or so whereas they were running $550 or so here, and that was back when the conversion rate was strongly in favor of the Euro.
As someone who works in IT, I apologize that sometimes data is so boring, 2 HKs and 3 Glocks, but sometimes, its good that there's nothing shocking to be discovered, just the "yep, thats what I expected" response.
I have 2 black Trident holsters. They're def my favorite. It takes a long time for them to get to the u.s. because of customs, but it's worth the wait.
CCW for European citizens is extremely rare. I have special permision as a police officer (western-europe) to carry my pistol outside work, but it’s not standard for all officers in my country. I rarely do so.
I just got my CCW permit in Czechia. It took only like two months, as I wanted to attend classes before the mandatory exam, and cost aprox. €300 in total. It's a constitutional right here, so everything is shall issue. You only need a health checkup and pass written exam from our gun laws, practical exam from safe handling and basic shooting proficiency.
Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 😀 Black Trident custom made my EXCELLENT appendix holster for my Canik Rival.. i went with Cordura covered kydex and I barely feel it's there and you can't see it. Essential for my work as a bodyguard. Nuts to Glock Glock Glock 😉
Joerg Sprave invented a 1911 style gun, that is actually a repeating slingbow that shoots bolts (very lethal ones, especially if its hunting broadheads in there). It holds 5 bolts and shoots them at pump action speed. He has a video on it on his channel, plus another video showing a 3d print model of it. Theres two 3d print models of it I think, so its available that way, and the bolts are easily available online and cheap.
James, di ... did I just hear you mutter "perverts" under your breath? I happen to find the mag release paddles more intuitive allowing me to drop a mag without adjusting the grip of my large hand. The fact that I may or may not be a pervert is purely a coincidence. lol
Being an American, I like calibers that start with "4"... so I carry a full sized G22 - and being frugal, I bought a LE trade-in Gen III for $319 US - so very reasonable price. I carry mine in a Amberide Kydex holster (very basic) strong side which works very well for me.
Sorry, but this video is under the usual high niveau of the TFBTV. Why? 1. there is practically NO CCW for real handguns in the EU, except some very few places like .CZ 2. All the other countries the CCW looks like in NY City before Bruen: may issue, but practically impossible to get, except very rich and famous, politcally well-connected and some former LEO. 3. In some countries, like .de, there is "hunter selfdefence/coup-de-grace" handguns, but those are legal to carry only in an official hunting event. 4. Most LE officers in EU can't have CCW, only in some cases they can carry their service pistols off-duty, which are mostly full size guns. 5. However a lot of EU citizens allowed to carry some sort of non-lethal guns in their country, mostly tear gas/alarm pistols, so the holster industry is working around this segment in EU. 6. An expensive, hi-end manufacturer's sales data do not represent in any way what is the "most popular CCW" in Europe. 7. Most popular CCW in Europe? Because of 5. it is probably some cheap Turkish gaspistol in an inexpensive cordura holster from Falco or Dasta.
Cz is surprisingly more of a newish brand in western Europe. Atleast for handguns. Sure they've been around, but were more for people who wanted something different. For example i bought a cz75b last year, made in 97 which has never been sold. It just sat around in a gunstore for 25 years. That's an extreme example to be fair. But generally, eastern europe was not considered to stwnd for good manufacturing, while up until 2011 essentially every man in germany had atleast some experience with hk. And Austria still has mandatory military service. So they all get training on the glock. So they know they're good and they have been trained with them. And that's really it. Also, the average European gun owner is not a young guy in his twenties. They're middle aged men, they don't go on the internet to read up on what is good, they go to their gun store and ask for what is good and affordable. And when the guy behind the counter gives them a gun that is used by the military, that is more than enough to convince them
I'm surprised not to see a CZ or Walther or Beretta. If this were shot in France, Spain, Italy, Czechia or England, you'd get a different answer in each country.
No you won´t because they also sell to all those countries too. Of course the make and sells holsters for this guns too but they simple told what they do sell the most across europe (so in other words what people througout the EU carry the most)
I was issued and carried a P2000 in .40 for more than a decade. Works every time, and is super accurate once you learn the trigger. I can understand how they'd be popular in Europe, but I'd never buy one for my own use.
I wonder if his data was based on their sales or a comprehensive European source. With the freedom to carry in CZECH, I’m surprised that a CZ was not included.
@@markofmckinney941Maybe cheaper? That's all I can figure. I've got a friend whose Walther just went shit on them, but CZ's are legendary for their design and reliability.
No offense, but will be much more wise to name the video "The Top 5 Carry Guns in Austria/Germany". I bet you if you go more tho the east, in CZ/SK nobody carry an HK, instead you will find a lot of CZ 75 and P10. (and if you go to Hungary, you can ask what is our favorite blank gun to carry..)
So im watching this video and folding laundry. Paused it just to get equipped with my 43x with bulldog holster. Now going back to laundry and video. Larping it up on a wonderful sunday morning. 😂
They're in Austria. Cross the border and it is different. Keep in mind that this for CC and only those that are police or doing security work do. They often choose what is close to their duty pistol and those get the contracts. Some may also be required to choose within a short list for work. CZ dropped the ball on the compact offerings, not many P-01s in some countries. I have to say besides bullseye target handguns and rifles I don't see many Walther offerings at the range but lots of the heavier CZs of course.
Did you expect anything else?? You are in Austria 😛go to Czech and it will be P10 series I was there this summer and find out that lots of people in Czech actually carry 82 or 83 police surplus
James thank you for interesting video👍 Cool new idea/topic on edc pov from Europe. I carried the Hk p2000 40sk for edc concealed for 4 yrs. I love and trust Hk its very reliable from the beginning. But today I’m with sig p365 xl lot slimmer and lighter. I’m saying HK little slimmer and lighter please 🙏
Thanks for giving us a chance to see firearms culture across the globe. Here’s to hoping the culture in Austria and the Czech Republic stays strong.
In the Czech Republic it is on the rise
hi from CZ ! We've been enthusiastic for about 400 years now, but the regimes dislike it... as always. We stay strong, no worry !
Czech just had mass shooting
@@MbisonBalrogwhich is a great reason for citizens to own guns so they can defend themselves
Should've been titled "Best carry guns in Germany/Austria"
I'm sure if you did this in Czechia you'd see much more CZs and other different guns
Yeah I'd say in top 5 is gonna be the cz p-10, glocks (19 or the slim ones) and probably the hs product h11 aka hellcat. Sigs are quite expensive and hard to get. I've never seen anybody with HK handgun on the range.
@@tomasteply1956 in Poland if you include Police top 3 i think can be Glock's, Walther PDP, CZ P-10s.. next i don't know.. maybe Canik or Beretta APX? SiG pistols are not worth the price in EU, it's like 2x US prices and you can't swap as much in them as in US due to regulations.
Ya I was expecting him to bust out a CZ.
Well in Czechia you can have a drum mag semi-auto ar-15 as a conceal carry only issue is concealing it enough
@@cisarovnajosefina4525 "guitar case entered the chat"
The P2000/SK is heavily slept on, even by HK, it's stupidly reliable and very well built for CC.
Didn't like how that trigger pull looked though
It's like a baby usp. What's not to like?
@@dubsspilly5864 that is a LEM trigger.
one of the best
Agreed, my first carry gun, and I'll never get rid of it.
Coming in at number one with the vast majority of Europeans having at least two: finger guns.
👉 👉
Most countries but some allow it under certain circumstances.
@@rolandxor179Good luck getting that. Unless you are in a war, you simply can't.
At least two? lol, if they more than two, something went really wrong. Or right?? >_>
@@greatBLT hey, I don’t judge.
Keep in mind:
Even though Austrian gun law is quite liberal, owning a firearm isn't a constitutional right here. It's a mere privilege granted by the government.
And not just anybody can carry their firearm in public. That's mostly reserved for police, military, and other professions that are dealing with potentially dangerous situations and environments (e. g. security, taxi drivers, hunters, money transport, etc.).
That was my understanding of Europe with the skight exception of Czechia, which is much more liberal with issuing CC permits.
@@Stevarooni Estonia has shall issue CCW as well and if I remember well Latvia and Lithuanias as well. Slovakia needs a reason, but supposedly it is not to difficult (e.g. you have a business doing cash transactions and need to protect yourself to go to the bank). Switzerland if you get caught you might get a fine and be barred from buying guns for two years (but you can keep what you already have)...🤐
@ShootAUT that’s how it is here in California too
Oh..K. I guess then “concealed carry” isn’t for civilians. It’s like what the progressives want to enact in the U.S. - Only for Government and the protection of money…People (self defense) can just twist in the wind.
CCW permit in Poland is very easy to obtain, you just need a license for sport shooting (which is fairly easy to obtain for everyone), and then CCW comes with it in pack ;)
CCW was banned in Finland in 1998, but I'd carry my P30 if it was allowed (or the streets become so unsafe that it's worth carrying anyway).
Rare case of a European in the comments who has a brain. Thank you for not being retarded.
Sawoff shotgun best.no 🇺🇸Ccw pistol only allowed 😢
So you guys can still own and buy guns, just not carry them?
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 Depends on the country, for example in Czech Republic you can carry and say someone enters your house or you're in a self defense scenario, if say your friend/partner has to use your firearm to protect yourself, you're still "legally covered", Czechs have it pretty awesome in that aspect, probably better than in the US, sadly it's only one country of 10M population out of Europe that has such laws/regulations in place.
@@hunterfabio Yep, sad that every state handles it differently too. My state requires me to jump out of my second story bedroom and keep running if someone enters. Not gonna happen but that's what they want.
Thank you for this interesting video. There is one important point about the lesser popularity of SIG SAUER and S&W in Europe. The problem is not that they are U.S. made. The problem is that, at least in some European countries, the service is pathetic. It is for example, almost unpossible to get spare magazine and spare pieces for some of their firearms. If these compagnies were investing the efforts needed to have serious service in Europe, the situation could change quite quickly.
SIG Sauer is really popular in swizerland because of the SIG p210/220/stgw 90
Except that these are the only locally produced firearms. All the other ones, including the new P210, are produced in the US. Swissarms is a very Small company and this is all that remains in Europe.
since Sig is only made in the US the QC is so poor that it makes no sence to buy one and trus a life on it. M&P are just very rare to get, for what ever reason.
@@marie-noellebaechler1433 FYI, "Swiss Arms" legally changed its name to "SIG Sauer AG" (different from the American SIG Sauer, Inc. and the now-defunct German SIG Sauer GmbH) as of 2019 and they still only sell to the Swiss market.
doesn't help that they're way more expensive (due to import taxes and stuff) than their euro competitors either though
This is why people watch TFBTV! Amazing to be exposed to other countries firearms cultures so thoroughly and so often.
I love this kind of gun content from other countries! I've read Paraguay have pretty relaxed civilian gun ownership laws - especially for Latin America. Chile, too, surprisingly. Perhaps a couple TFBtv videos from South America one day?
I was thinking something similar. Ecuador relaxed gun laws not too long ago, I’m pretty sure CC is allowed now. Colombia, Argentina and Brazil make some decent firearms.
Concealed carry in Latin America is never restricted if you’re not a pansy!
Argentina just elected a pro gun president. They're likely to start receiving some of their God given rights back soon!
I'm French/South African I can confirm in South Africa cc is pretty common in France it is possible given very special situations like being a jewelry shop worker or in something similar but getting guns in France is way less complicated than in South Africa.
5 most popular ccw guns in DE/AT. P10 is very popular in Baltics and CZ/SK.
cuz the p10 series is fuckin goated i have an S and love it
I was quite surprised the p10 didn't make the list.
Well I'm not into guns so much, however I've never heard about black trident here in CZ. We have some local holsters makers. So I would say that this will be heavily leaned toward DE/AT/CH region.
Yes, RH Holsters might be the best in Czechia. At least that's what all my instructors recommended.
@@MarvinCZ yup, that is what I have for my Shadow 2 as well. However I don't know if they are best (what that actually mean ;-) or just most popular :-)
Always cool to see what people carry in other countries and why.
We carry guns in South Africa toojust saying
except nothing is true in this video:-((
This was fascinating. Thank you. Please do more videos like this. Nice to see other nations still allow ccw.
Quality content once again.
Checked out a HK P2000SK the other day ..Wow! Build quality is on an other level 👍
They can also take the bigger mags from the p2000 and P30 series. Very good gun for many purposes.
It's great!! However it's significantly thicker and heavier than the micros we've been spoiled with in the US, so I wouldn't go for it personally. Still a fantastic firearm tho.
Nothing beats an HK. Check out the P30SK V1 LEM and the USP Compact (convertible to a light LEM, too).
As an european LAW member, i saw 3 greats brands for service carry, based on my country
-Glock. In my country it's for special service, mostly gen 3: i have see some operators wearig worn custom glocks
-sig sauer for general service member, but some sof still use it. The sp2022, german and us made, and the new Xcarry
-Hs product 2000 (now as springfiel XD in us) gain a lots of fame on certain service.
On civilian market, the Canik brands gain a lots
Other europeans use lots of hk pistol a lots, Cz ones, walher in service. Glocks obviously, S&w mp in belgium
Im from the Czech Republic. It is always hard or harder to get a gun that is not being manufactured in the EU. The reason is that we are a very small market for US producers. Another problem are spare parts. For example I own a Sig MPX (price in CR 3000 USD) and Sig P365 X-Macro COMP (price in CR 1400 USD) and the are no spare parts to buy, not even a recoil springs. Btw Sig treats us as subcustomers, they dont even reply to questions - how sad and warranty is non existent. The fact that US shops do not ship outside US (law) makes getting something very difficult, expensive and it takes time. I wanted a SW Shield EZ 380 for my wife and it would take 1 to 2 years to get it, so I found one piece in Italy and had to go there to buy it.
Same here in Switzerland, if you have a US made pistol it takes forever to get spare parts, and you can forget about any warranty, many buy Czech, Austrian, Slovakian and Slovenian firearms, at least we can get spare parts. With AR-15 it's a bit better as there are many European made spare parts in case you have a US made AR-15 model. You might want to look at Wolff gunsprings in case you need springs, there are periods where they ship to Europe, in case you springs for a specific firearm.
@@doejohn8674 Yes AR-15 parts are OK if its milspec. Btw JAMES when you come to the Czech Republic again, can you smuggle some parts for me? 🙏😂
That's why Glock rules! In Romania I can get a spare part on the spot. If the part is not in stock they will disassemble a new gun and give you the part you need!👌
Great to see what people in other countries are doing, something you don't see in the news media. Keep up the good work!
CC should be legal everywhere in EU - we have good examples that it works well, e.g. in CZ. In Germany, civilians can only CC as hunters in their assigned hunting area, exceptions are some few politicians or e.g. judges, according to public media…
tell that the fcking EU commission, they will laugh their asses off.
But how things are going in europe, it´s safe to say that Open Carry will be a thing and now one will give a fck about that.
i like how the politicians can conceal carry but regular people can't
@@UgandanAirForce yes, but even they have a hard time getting a permit - an alcoholic can gain back a drivers license, but CC is waay too dangerous for society 🤣🤪🤷🏻♂️
In Germany you can get a permit if you professionally transport money/valuables, but you are not allowed to protect yourself or your family...
There’s a lot less call for it in Europe. The personal defence need is much lower compared to the US, so people aren’t nearly as worried about it.
S&W isn't that uncommon in Belgium for example. Perhaps not so common in Austria? It depends on the gun store and which brands they import. Glocks are indeed the easiest to get though. Unfortunately we cannot have a CCW in Belgium, would do it immediately if it was allowed! Love the exposure, some europeans love guns as much as our American friends! Keep up with the cool videos!
@danielmckraken5160 I agree 100% on the protect yourself and those you love and i will act accordingly when needed but i am not breaking the law and ending up in jail because i unlawfully carried a CCW in public. But that's my action/opinion.
May be its more common in Belgium since its the Police Service Pistol in a lot of PD´s. Plus there was a S&W Academy in Antwerpen yeeeeeaaaaaars ago.
@KommBat The M&P 9 is indeed the service weapon of the federal police but i don't think that is the only reason; S&W firearms are just common to be imported i think. The revolvers are very popular as wel, just as the ones from Ruger are too.
CCW is allowed in Belgium, as in: you need a valid (legal) reason to get a permit, be it a permit “to keep” or “to carry” a firearm. But if you have such a permit, you can - must, actually, carry concealed. And yes, those permits are still being granted. Please educate yourself.
@@nla0079 To keep as in you can have a firearm at home to take at a shooting range. The only kind of carry permit i know of is for people that A) have to carry a weapon on the job; ea security (money transport,...) or B) a person that has a reason to believe that he is in permanent danger (ea a lawyer that can prove he has been threatened by for example a drug cartel that he plead against). The latter exist but is very rare though. You cannot just carry a CCW just because you want. It was that i was implying and yes, i am not a lawyer and you perhaps are one getting on his high horse for reading my comment wrong but implying that i have to educate myself is rather rude.
Wolfgang was right that gun rights here in Austria are still RELATIVELY permissive, you can get probably pretty much the same guns as you can in the US, as long as you have a permit. Where it gets tricky is carrying them, because with a standard license you're only allowed to 'transport' = unloaded, ammo stored separately, quickest way from A to B (usually home-range, range-home), in a closed container (like a range bag, peli-case etc.) only. The special permit needed for carrying (does not make a distinction between concealed or not, but very little point in open carry if you're not in uniform) is barely ever handed out. Policemen of course can get it, and private security personnel usually too. There was a time when Taxi drivers got robbed often and they could get them too, but that has passed. Unless you're either police or stand in front of a jewellers shop in a Securitas polo shirt for a job, forget about a carry permit.
It's only relatively easy to get concealed carry in Czech Republic, because the background checks to get a weapons license is very thorough, as it should be. I love how American gun enthusiasts try to hide or obfuscate those facts, because it goes against the fetishized gun culture of the US. I say this as a person who likes guns and shoots pretty regularly.
I was kinda surprised cz wasn’t on this list. I know there not as popular as glock smith or sig in the u.s but the Czech Republic being in Europe I would have figured they would be common. They make very good pistols and I’m a fan personally.
This was for Austria and Germany, maybe Switzerland, not all of Europe. We have our own popular holster makers in Czechia. You would see CZs and Glocks here.
@MarvinCZ With CZs so readily available, why would anyone buy a Glock? The difference in triggers alone is enough, and don't try to tell me that Glocks are more reliable than CZs.
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 I totally agree with that
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 There is no accounting for taste. They are both just as readily available and similarly priced.
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Because there's practically no difference in price. CZ here cost as much as a comparable Glock does. So people often go for the higher perceived quality,
I finally just picked up my first HK. P30L V3, no safety. I can’t believe I slept this long on this series of pistols. The ergos are incredible. Trigger isn’t terrible. I can’t see myself carrying it but god damn what platform.
More gun culture videos with the same 'no politics' approach we love. Tricky to pull off, but great showing with this one. Keep them coming.
I started carrying an HK45c a week ago, and it’s been great.
My fiance has a 2000 sk and we have found the mag release to be very uncomfortable and often painful after a day of shooting. It is now regulated to the end of the line for use.
are you using your thumb or your trigger finger? highly recommend using your trigger finger and barely rotating your grip, using your thumb like an american gun makes you rotate the gun a bunch and the angle you have to press down at is uncomfortable, but if you use the trigger finger it is incredibly fast and easy. after getting my 2k i waay prefer the paddle release to using anything with a button.
i also recommend getting the extended mag release from the hk45c and putting it on the 2k, it fits on basically any paddle release hk. all you have to do is punch out a roll pin and put the new part in, really easy
@aubrey_d the pain is the shape and location of the mag release. It digs in to the hand on both sides. Releasing the mag on it can be a bit of a job too.
@aubrey_d I have tried several different ways of releasing the mag. I prefer my 1911 style release on most guns but even the slider release on my Ruger P85 is a far smoother operation. I would even prefer a heel release over the one on this 2000.
Very cool video. I hope you made more content based on the Austria CC culture over there. Very interesting.
Sounded to me like its all police. Not really a cc "culture"
Jup. Regular Citizens are only allowed to take their firearms to the range and back in a container or bag and the ammo has to be in a seperate container or section of the range bag.
People who work dangerous jobs can apply for open carry licences and open carry while on the job in uniform. Or concealed carry in plain clothes, depending on the limitations of the open carry licence.
Thanks!
Carry my VP9sk daily in the winter. Love my CZs too
I have a Black Trident competition holster. I love their customization options.
Great video James! it"s nice seeing what people like across the pond!
I was most surprised when I didn't see a USP because I don't even think about HK's newer pistols. And I'd be carrying fullsize in the winter months with heavier clothes, so G17>G19/43/43X.
As a german i have never thought about how hard the name Wolfgang goes in english. It's kind of an old people name here
Obviously the connotation with the name may be different in austria
If you have a name like that in the US people expect you to be awesome.
They had a lot of time since Van Halen. Saying Wolf and gang is easy AF.
It gets funny when they try to say Heckler & Koch and H&K even puts it wrong in their FAQ of the english website to maybe make it easier.
@@onpsxmember "going hard" as in sounds very cool
To an American it seems like a name for a tough guy, since it has both wolf and gang, kind of dangerous things.
@@professorlayabout4878 yeah... Funnily wolf is wolf aswell in german and the English word gang is in common use aswell, but somehow... Doesn't send the same message in german
Great vid. I hope Black Trident will expand into the American market. Their holsters look great.
Great video and very informative.
I expected to see at least one Hi-Point with €s printed on it instead of $s. 5.7/10
I am from the region, what is Hi Point?
@@jenHry-ng3pwGod's gift to poor people.
Super cheap pistol that’s made in Ohio.
Gun License are expensive and complicated in the most european Staates.
Therefore the most Peoble buy good quality Guns and no garbage.
@@d4dstt808 that's not very cash money of you
One thing to note when comparing prices is, retail prices over here in Europe are including VAT. So the Austrian prices mentioned are already including the 20% VAT. A 700 EUR retail price Glock would therefore be 765 USD including the VAT, or 640 USD without VAT.
Thanks for this video! This is one of those things I'm always curious about.
I visited a Johann Springer in Vienna one time back in 2018, Glocks were retailing for about 650 Euros or so whereas they were running $550 or so here, and that was back when the conversion rate was strongly in favor of the Euro.
As someone who works in IT, I apologize that sometimes data is so boring, 2 HKs and 3 Glocks, but sometimes, its good that there's nothing shocking to be discovered, just the "yep, thats what I expected" response.
I have 2 black Trident holsters. They're def my favorite. It takes a long time for them to get to the u.s. because of customs, but it's worth the wait.
Great video, thanks for sharing it.
Great video man. One of my favorite UA-camrs
James please do a video on the HK LEM trigger. Arguably the best answer to a carry trigger.
I got the 43x as my consealed carry here in Austria. Unbeatable!!
Call me Quasimodo bc I got a bulge too is wild 💀
TFB putting out the original content. Love it
On your birth in Austria you are given a Glock 19 and a 12 pack of Red Bull.
CCW for European citizens is extremely rare. I have special permision as a police officer (western-europe) to carry my pistol outside work, but it’s not standard for all officers in my country. I rarely do so.
It depends on the country. Almost all gun owners in CZ have a concealed carry permit. You don't need anything extra for it.
Eastern Europe tends to have more lax laws
I just got my CCW permit in Czechia. It took only like two months, as I wanted to attend classes before the mandatory exam, and cost aprox. €300 in total. It's a constitutional right here, so everything is shall issue. You only need a health checkup and pass written exam from our gun laws, practical exam from safe handling and basic shooting proficiency.
Europe may have ccw, but in most of the countries. It’s hard to almost impossible to get for the average law abiding citizen.
Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 😀
Black Trident custom made my EXCELLENT appendix holster for my Canik Rival.. i went with Cordura covered kydex and I barely feel it's there and you can't see it. Essential for my work as a bodyguard.
Nuts to Glock Glock Glock 😉
🇪🇺Cz ,Beretta , HK, Glock, Walther
I never really thought about how many major firearm brands are European. How ironic 😅
Love my Glock 43! Glad to see that it was second on the list behind the 43x, respectively.
Joerg Sprave invented a 1911 style gun, that is actually a repeating slingbow that shoots bolts (very lethal ones, especially if its hunting broadheads in there). It holds 5 bolts and shoots them at pump action speed. He has a video on it on his channel, plus another video showing a 3d print model of it.
Theres two 3d print models of it I think, so its available that way, and the bolts are easily available online and cheap.
Hi James, could you please make a similar video with RH holsters company in the Czech Republic? Would be nice to see a difference 👍
Definitely
Greetings from Vienna! Nice to have You around!
James, di ... did I just hear you mutter "perverts" under your breath? I happen to find the mag release paddles more intuitive allowing me to drop a mag without adjusting the grip of my large hand. The fact that I may or may not be a pervert is purely a coincidence. lol
Yeah, what was that about ?
Being an American, I like calibers that start with "4"... so I carry a full sized G22 - and being frugal, I bought a LE trade-in Gen III for $319 US - so very reasonable price. I carry mine in a Amberide Kydex holster (very basic) strong side which works very well for me.
Loved that Steyr AUG A3 chillin in the background
Nice to see they use what they make. 👍
Great video, love hearing about gun culture in Europe
the comunity is growing. the gun laws are more relaxed in the eastern and northern countrys. you can own guns almost everywere, exept UK and Island.
@@KommBat as an American who loves guns and considering a move to Europe, this is great to hear!
@@magnificus8581 where do you like to move to?
@@KommBat Italy, Bavaria, or possibly Czech Republic
@@KommBat even in the UK you can get a license but no handguns in most of the UK
Love the international content!!!
I'm surprised that no Walther, FN, CZ, or Beretta handguns were mentioned as Euro CC guns.
I'm also shocked no FN or CZ models either.
Fn is not so available in Europe
@@Bliss38spc FN in Belgium does not sell guns in Europe?
This is just for the Austrian and German market, maybe Swiss. Czechia has its own holster makers. You'd probably see mostly CZs and Glocks here.
Sorry, but this video is under the usual high niveau of the TFBTV. Why?
1. there is practically NO CCW for real handguns in the EU, except some very few places like .CZ
2. All the other countries the CCW looks like in NY City before Bruen: may issue, but practically impossible to get, except very rich and famous, politcally well-connected and some former LEO.
3. In some countries, like .de, there is "hunter selfdefence/coup-de-grace" handguns, but those are legal to carry only in an official hunting event.
4. Most LE officers in EU can't have CCW, only in some cases they can carry their service pistols off-duty, which are mostly full size guns.
5. However a lot of EU citizens allowed to carry some sort of non-lethal guns in their country, mostly tear gas/alarm pistols, so the holster industry is working around this segment in EU.
6. An expensive, hi-end manufacturer's sales data do not represent in any way what is the "most popular CCW" in Europe.
7. Most popular CCW in Europe? Because of 5. it is probably some cheap Turkish gaspistol in an inexpensive cordura holster from Falco or Dasta.
Cool look at some things across the pond! Provides some great perspective!
A Glock and Red Bull..LOL What would other countries give us? A Beretta and Limoncello..
Limoncello is from Naples so Betetta would consider this a no-no.
@@makam2089southern/northern Italian divide eh?
@@cosaqueexiste9647 still alive and well .
@@makam2089 in Spain we got a very similar thing
A Hi-Point and Natty Light
Hk all day. I love mine for sure. Glock too. Kinda surprised there weren’t any cz or walther but I get it. They want proven reliability.
Cz is surprisingly more of a newish brand in western Europe. Atleast for handguns. Sure they've been around, but were more for people who wanted something different. For example i bought a cz75b last year, made in 97 which has never been sold. It just sat around in a gunstore for 25 years. That's an extreme example to be fair. But generally, eastern europe was not considered to stwnd for good manufacturing, while up until 2011 essentially every man in germany had atleast some experience with hk. And Austria still has mandatory military service. So they all get training on the glock. So they know they're good and they have been trained with them. And that's really it. Also, the average European gun owner is not a young guy in his twenties. They're middle aged men, they don't go on the internet to read up on what is good, they go to their gun store and ask for what is good and affordable. And when the guy behind the counter gives them a gun that is used by the military, that is more than enough to convince them
You'd see CZs there is it wasn't just for the Austrian and German market.
I'm surprised not to see a CZ or Walther or Beretta. If this were shot in France, Spain, Italy, Czechia or England, you'd get a different answer in each country.
No you won´t because they also sell to all those countries too. Of course the make and sells holsters for this guns too but they simple told what they do sell the most across europe (so in other words what people througout the EU carry the most)
Nothing beats a quality leather holster.
I really like my p30, it’s up there with my p-01, p-07, 92x rdo, p229.
If you can't get there holsters in North America, Grey Fox Strategic in Canada makes a similar product.
Canada is in North America.
@@noahbarkelew6093reading is hard Dx
@@noahbarkelew6093 " their" being black trident
@@noahbarkelew6093 His comment didn't say or in any way imply that Canada is not part of north America.....
I see James rocking that Sarma hoodie. When do we get to see some of those excellent Varusteleka ads on TFB??🤔
Great video. Great name for the holster.
I'd love a video about carry laws in a couple of the more permissive countries
I’ve been using the p2000 off and on since I was 11 on my counter terrorist unit. Though I prefer carrying the usp-s.
I was issued and carried a P2000 in .40 for more than a decade. Works every time, and is super accurate once you learn the trigger. I can understand how they'd be popular in Europe, but I'd never buy one for my own use.
Pretty sure seven of eight companies sell holsters EXACTLY like those...
I’m really surprised that H&Ks are more popular than Walthers and CZs in Europe.
Agreed, Walthers and CZ's are better and definitely better bang for the buck than an HK.
I wonder if his data was based on their sales or a comprehensive European source. With the freedom to carry in CZECH, I’m surprised that a CZ was not included.
@@markofmckinney941Maybe cheaper? That's all I can figure. I've got a friend whose Walther just went shit on them, but CZ's are legendary for their design and reliability.
@@sde9023Neither are better than HK, but they are cheaper
@sde9023
The PPQ really is that good.
On day of posting 1 Euro is 1.08 US dollars. So 600 Euro is about $650 US.
The #1 CCW in France is a pepperbox concealed in brass knuckles.
5:58 is that normal to shoot with your support hand index finger over the trigger guard?
I believe it's a popular technique in Europe, that's why a lot of pistols have serrations on the front of the trigger guard.
No offense, but will be much more wise to name the video "The Top 5 Carry Guns in Austria/Germany".
I bet you if you go more tho the east, in CZ/SK nobody carry an HK, instead you will find a lot of CZ 75 and P10.
(and if you go to Hungary, you can ask what is our favorite blank gun to carry..)
So im watching this video and folding laundry. Paused it just to get equipped with my 43x with bulldog holster. Now going back to laundry and video. Larping it up on a wonderful sunday morning. 😂
Shooting with your finger on the front of the trigger guard....you're a REAL MAN NOW!!!!
Great topic!
P2000sk representation Woo!
Its a bit out dated size wise but a great gun i love carrying, for the summer I hope HK releases that VP9CC soon though 😅
I miss having pistols in the UK. I learned to shoot with my Grandfather's Webley & a.22 made by Holland&Holland
2:58 Number 5
5:12 Number 4
6:48 Number 3
7:58 Number 2
9:03 Number 1
Their holsters look very similar to Tenicors, which are awesome.
As a Law Enforcement Officer off duty I prefer the Glock 48 with Trijcon RMR and Streamlight
That was so unhinged at the end. bravo
Innsbruck and Schloss Neuschwanstein is a dream at Christmas time. Storybook stuff, enjoy.
Not one Walther or CZ, I was expecting HK Glock and one or both of the others.
Glock and HK are 100% > Walther and CZ.
They're in Austria. Cross the border and it is different. Keep in mind that this for CC and only those that are police or doing security work do. They often choose what is close to their duty pistol and those get the contracts. Some may also be required to choose within a short list for work. CZ dropped the ball on the compact offerings, not many P-01s in some countries. I have to say besides bullseye target handguns and rifles I don't see many Walther offerings at the range but lots of the heavier CZs of course.
It's VERY surprising
If this was for the Czech market and not just Austria and Germany, you'd definitely see CZ on the list.
And longer north i shoot a CZ SP-01 shadow with 2 calibers in the same gun. 0,22 and 9mm(18rounds) :)
Great video! I'm not changing my firearms for a popular model.
Did you expect anything else?? You are in Austria 😛go to Czech and it will be P10 series I was there this summer and find out that lots of people in Czech actually carry 82 or 83 police surplus
Nice to hear what they carry in Glockland.
James thank you for interesting video👍 Cool new idea/topic on edc pov from Europe. I carried the Hk p2000 40sk for edc concealed for 4 yrs. I love and trust Hk its very reliable from the beginning. But today I’m with sig p365 xl lot slimmer and lighter. I’m saying HK little slimmer and lighter please 🙏
LTT P30L is phenomenal