Family Behind Oxycontin CAUGHT In Scheme To Control Opioid Policy
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- The family behind Oxycontin gave millions to a group shaping opioid policy. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks. Watch TYT LIVE on weekdays 6-8 pm ET. ua-cam.com/users/the...
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"Members of the Sackler family-the wealthy owners behind Purdue Pharma and OxyContin-paid upwards of $19 million in donations to The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, a powerful institution that advises U.S. opioid policy, according to a bombshell report by The New York Times.
The Times outlined a series of events that pose a possible conflict of interest. Dr. Raymond Sackler, his wife, Beverly, and the couple’s foundation started donating large sums of money to the Academies in 2008, according to treasurer reports. They died in 2017 and 2019, respectively. Dame Jillian Sackler also made millions of dollars’ worth of donations to the Academies beginning in 2000. The Academies invested the funds, growing to over $31 million by the end of 2021."*
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Yet the people who actually require pain medication are suffering from the effects of their schemes. Elderly patients have to go without treatment and patients who actually have the need for pain medication are suffering daily.
I wonder if the Sackler's have shares in private prisons. Hook as many as they could to opiods then restrict the access to them then watch as many of those addicted to their drugs go to the black market. Then clean up on both ends once people are locked away for schedule 1 drug possession.
Your pain level can be high enough that you’ll consider some fairly permanent solutions (read into that all you want) and doctors *still* won’t give you a serious painkiller. If they can’t “solve” the opioid epidemic then they need to stop withholding opioids from non-addicted people in severe agony. It’s insane that the *only* people who have them obtain them illegally but, for people who *really* need them, they are impossible to get. This is absurd.
I wonder if the Sackler's have shares in private prisons. Hook as many as they could to opiods then restrict the access to them then watch as many of those addicted to their drugs go to the black market. Then clean up on both ends once people are locked away for schedule 1 drug possession.
It’s an absolute joke I’m happy to talk about lowering pack sizes. OxyContin came in bottles of 100. A months worth is something pain patients have to work around if they find a compassionate dr and has gone through everything else with you and they are down to opioid pain management.
Drs are scared they will get fired for treating a patients pain adequately. Yes people go to the street because they are in that much pain they choose the street over suicide or a lifetime or a very long amount of years for pain.
Some people will sit here and say how about surgery.
1. Doesn’t always fix the problem
2. When you have to pay for a surgeon and everybody else involved it can come to a cost so high where you will need to sell your house.
We just need some compassion from the FDA in this case to allow chronic pain patients the meds they need. Here in Australia my oxy intake was 35. Never increased.
They way TYT paints everyone who deals with chronic pain is disgusting, I don’t think that it’s ok that major pharmaceutical companies benifit for it or maybe fight for it in the wrong reasons.
But for people living in pain daily they don’t care where the money comes from and truly just want to live there lives with as little pain as possible.
@@brettmitchell8 Well stated - both sides need help! The CDC failed us all.
Also they need to do more panels to see what people can and cannot take.. I've always said I had a really high tolerance some heavy hutters. Oxy for my back never made me feel high tramadol same.. Some muscle relaxes knock me on my butt and Benadryl kicks me butt! based on some blood work and things like that they've learned my medication types and tolerance. If you have a high tolerance to opiates maybe find a different source of pain control for those people who are suffering.
@Brett Mitchell they've been doing this to pain patients for a while now. I'd love to see them have a pain patient advocate on to talk to! People in pain have a lower likelihood of addiction because we aren't getting the high that people not in pain do. But we always get lumped with people who are addicted. When, in reality, people who are addicted should be treated more like patients & less like criminals!! Rehab & other help should be easy to obtain & the stigma attached to "addicts" needs to go away so that people who need the help feel comfy asking for it! But people suffering with addiction & people suffering with chronic pain are NOT the same!!
Also the 42% number doesn't seem as inflated to me as they make it out to be. Especially since 30%+ of the population is disabled & a lot of those come with pain. So I highly doubt the number is closer to the 7% number that they claim. 😡
I’m an RN. I have patients who live with chronic pain whose doctors have either drastically reduced or taken them off opiates. There are so many people who’ve had their quality of life taken from them due to this mess. On the other hand it sickens me when those only interested in lining their pockets pretend to care.
Yes, it is so frustrating that people who actually need it, either can't get it or have had it drastically reduced because of pill mills and those who have abused prescription writing privileges. So now good doctors are scared to prescribe to those who actually need it. Infuriating!
Thank you Kathy. And as a medical professional, you know that chronic and intractable pain is not only debilitating, but it can cause further damage and even kill patients.
While every possible treatment to treat addiction should be made available. The very limited options to treat pain should not be taken away.
After my Rx opiate treatment was drastically cut, I quickly lost quality of life, lost muscle mass, and became more bedridden than ever before.
Imagine how outraged people would be if their driver's license was stripped from them because other people were having car accidents.
People would lose their minds
Yet, patients in pain can have Rx medication stripped away, and our lives matter to few.
Torture has become something that people are okay with.
I'm sure that people will want relief when it's their turn to feel months, years, or decades of pain. 💜
@@kitty554 that’s a very good analogy about the driver’s license. I’m stealing it for my next discussion on this topic!
@Kitty I've always said. They wouldn't accept the treatment we're forced to go through. CBT, mindfulness, biofeedback. It doesn't compute when you're still in pain after these classes I've been forced into so often I can recite it back to them. It doesn't matter our quality of life. Why we'll as I was once told " you aren't working so" as if me working determines my treatment. I can control my body now to such a degree I can do endoscopies without anesthesia, but I'm still not in control of my body enough. That if I just stopped thinking about the pain I wouldn't be suffering.
I wish nothing more than physicians having to go through a taste of your life before any decision can be made.
@@mariamiller1435 Absolutely 👍🏼👍🏼 💜
When you replace our Rx meds with just about any other item, it highlights the overreach of Gov agencies.
People would lose their minds if it was anything that they feel is important to them.
It's so barbaric.
Yet those of us who suffer from real chronic pain have little or no access to relief and are vilified and stigmatized by society. I rarely hear anyone mention that side of the story… I was in a horrendous accident as a teenager and have endured 30+ surgeries in the past 2 decades. I was in pain management long before there was a crisis, but after the government massively over corrected in response, I lost my doctor. He shut down his practice after 36 years because he was “afraid” of what the government could do. I have met many physicians since that feel the same. They are aware that their patients are suffering from pain that would render most people unable to function, yet they’re too scared to treat them because they might be arrested, lose everything and be stripped of their license. There are many facets to the epidemic that don’t have light shone on them and therefore exist outside public consciousness. The problem isn’t with the medicines, it’s with capitalism. Once everything is viewed as a way to profit, nothing is sacred. America is a trash heap and has been for some time, we’re just REALLY GOOD at indoctrinating children to believe that “we’re number 1” and that “were the best at everything”. This conditioning even sticks for the long haul with many and it clouds their judgement to a point where they’re willing to fight against their own best interests for some idiots they’ve never met and don’t care about them in the slightest
Cenk was laughing at people's pain and suffering this whole video. He's a smug asshat
"Yet those of us who suffer from real chronic pain have little or no access to relief and are vilified and stigmatized by society." So true.
Amen brother
@@kahlernygard809 I don't think Cenk knows that opioids are not heroin pills. I think he said that. They are not. I can't rewatch this video, these things piss me off. It is the same as corporate propaganda.
So we'll said, thank you. I'm iffy on if God is real, but I'll say a prayer for you, hoping he/she is. Take care
And then people in pain are treated like criminals.
Yes, we are. Dr's took kick backs from big pharma to prescribe oxy, knowing full well where it would lead then cut off everyone. People without help for real pain issues hadn't where to turn except the dark world of heroin addition with all the dangers of criminal drug trade. Many true pain patients choose suicide as their only way out. BTW... pharmacies have no business turning people away coming between a patient and his/her diagnosis.
Im a chronic pain patient. Im middle aged. I fear for my future. Doctors dont treat pain anymore.
TYT won't report on your circumstance because it would showcase how WRONG they are about all this opiate deaths.
The bigger story is how for years now pain management doctors have been kicking patients off their pain meds and all of a sudden people are dropping like flys from fentanol
almost like just ripping people off of one drugs sends them running to another.
They won't do actual reporting here. They are just corporate bootlickers. God forbid people are allowed to use medicine to treat their pain
Makes you wonder if the Sackler's have shares in private prisons. Hook as many as they could to opiods then restrict the access to them then watch as many of those addicted to their drugs go to the black market. Then clean up on both ends once people are locked away for schedule 1 drug possession.
That is the bigger story. But where is it? I'm tired of hearing the propaganda against opioids. The war on opioids isn't working to save lives. TYT needs to report on this. It is a bigger story, people are still dying and this isn't working.
The problem with their decisions were that they screwed the people,who are in chronic pain.unless you are dying, you are forced to follow procedures, which make you feel like a criminal.
Another perspective; because of all this, people that medically really need it, that use it responsibly, closely monitored by their doctor, that their lives literally depend on good pain management are being ostracized, literally harassed by pharmacists, so badly judged and badly treated by SO MANY healthcare professionals that doesn’t care to understand your rare genetic condition… it sucks, a lot. It’s a lifetime filled with a repetition of “sucks to be you”.
I understand the cruelty against chronic pain patients. My late fiance spoke in front of the FDA about this before he passed. I am putting it here in his honor. It is 8 mins if you want to see someone stand up for chronic pain patients in front of the head of the FDA. ua-cam.com/video/7n435AFBrXw/v-deo.html
It's the unfortunate way "status quo" types work. We see a lot of this "follow the leader" going on especially in govt politics. Something based on erroneous understanding, becomes the defacto standard. Nobody asks if it's right or wrong, just join the ones saying so. Easy to be on or off. Consideration of specifics takes critical thinking so won't happen. Rather be with the crowd than correct but against the momentum.
"Overdose deaths - including those among adolescents - are now overwhelmingly caused by street fentanyl, not prescription medications. And fatalities have nearly doubled since 2012, despite the decline of the medical supply." - Maia Szalavitz, on chronic pain patient suicides, those who have lost access to needed medications. They overcorrected a real problem, and still, CPPs are vilified. They are denied needed medicine for quality of life, to work, and to play with their grandkids. To all chronic pain sufferers watching this and denied medications, my heart goes out to you. There are many groups fighting for you. We should not fight with each other. Addiction is the real problem and chronic pain is very real and can be debilitating. Doctors need to decide what is best for the patient for the best quality of life for the patients.
"Overdose deaths - including those among adolescents - are now overwhelmingly caused by street fentanyl, not prescription medications. And fatalities have nearly doubled since 2012, despite the decline of the medical supply." - Maia Szalavitz, on chronic pain patient suicides, those who have lost access to needed medications. They overcorrected a real problem, and still, CPPs are vilified. They are denied needed medicine for quality of life, to work, and to play with their grandkids. To all chronic pain sufferers watching this and denied medications, my heart goes out to you. There are many groups fighting for you. We should not fight with each other. Addiction is the real problem and chronic pain is very real and can be debilitating. Doctors need to decide what is best for the patient for the best quality of life for the patients.
They have now made it almost impossible for the people who really need this medication and have never, ever abused it. There's a big difference between tolerance and addiction or abuse! Once again, those that follow the rules, eventually get screwed because of someone else!
Yes. Me!
The healthcare industry are a bunch of criminals. That’s a fact.
@@MrsMcIlrath I'm very sorry for what you're being put through because of either the doctor that no longer cares or the people that set the rules and regulations that are dumb as a box of rocks!
@@deborahallen3318 it’s the legislature in my state. It breaks my docs heart.
The Doctors went from over prescribing to letting people suffer because they are afraid.
Amen!
Exactly. My buddy was giga sick and in horrible pain. It was a temporary thing, they could have given her 3 days worth of codeine. They could give that to people post-surgeries or with dental pain. But no, they give you advil and let you suffer. It stinks.
@@Avatinfernus they don’t give a fuck anymore.
One minor correction to your story. You keep saying the Sackler family. It's actually the Sackler Cartel.
I would like to see some reporting on how this has effected people in pain internationally on how the reaction too this corruption has taken meds away from those who need it and now for people that suffer severe intractable pain and have had their medications taken away are now committing suicide in droves due to under treated pain and being falsely accused of being addicts
I have severe full body chronic pain so i guess im part of the 7%. Also, you guys seem to think people over 60 arent likely to experience debilitating conditions with our terrible american food, lifestyle and health care. I dont think its 100 million who have chronic pain but its a whole lot more than what you guys think.
Everyone seems to ignore the facts that this whole opioid crisis has greatly harmed one group: people with chronic illnesses and intractable pain. Pain medication is even being denied to people after surgery and people with cancer, including some in hospice. If you take pain medicine for actual pain, rates of addiction are around 1 to 3 percent. If prescription pain meds are the problem tell me why with prescribing down by 50 percent, overdose deaths are tripling. Why is nothing done about the illegal fentanyl coming into this country? Hope you never have to deal with chronic pain and have the one thing that allows you to function (namely opioid medication) taken away when you have NEVER once abused it. Btw 20 million people deal with intractable chronic pain everyday. Please stop buying into everything the CDC and DEA tell you. Andrew Kolodny and the organization PROP get $500,000 each time they testify against companies producing opioid medication. Kolodny runs addiction clinics and claims even taking opioids for a day or two will addict one. Are we seeing a conflict of interest? This group has definitely influenced the CDC opioid guidelines. As part of the settlements, pharmaceutical companies agreed to drastically cut opioid production. Do not be surprised when there shortages for surgeries.
Yes, people with intractable pain are suffering terribly.
Yes but also a high percentage of those who are prescribed pain medicines become addicted. Its not a clear line between these two groups. And the people who become addicted are not the ones to blame for the opioid epidemic. Anyone who takes an opioid over a long period of time will develop tolerance at a minimum. We should be seeking alternative treatments for chronic pain. Opioids are a great medicine for acute pain but not for chronic pain.
@@jayabee Actually the stats are around 1 to 3 percent of people who become addicted who use pain medication for an actual condition. Yes dependence may develop, but that is true with non opioid medicines as well. Addiction is different than dependence. Here’s the big difference. People with chronic pain use the medicine to be functional in life, take care of their families, work at a job, etc. People with addiction use the medicine to escape from life.
1 year of chronic pain ages your brain by 10 years. Addiction is a huge problem, but given that, we can't just yank the pills out of their hands. Chronic pain is a serious thing doing real irreversible physiological damage. Ever since I learned that, I can't think of the opioid crisis in the same way.
There’s a difference between dependency and addiction. According to your math,my brain is now 210 years old. Maybe it is because I’m having trouble making sense of that.
@@myleslong5584 This is based on a study that measured brain volumes, which naturally shrink over time. I'm not sure what their sample was like, so it's hard to say how we should extrapolate from their result to longer time scales. As far as I recall, they only measured for a single year over a pretty good number of samples, so the point was to verify that this is an effect, not to get a detailed curve of brain volume over many years in a single individual.
My point is: all we know is that 20 years ago, your brain aged 10 years in 1 year. It would be pretty crazy if the effect just halted after that year, and it would be equally crazy if your brain was effectively 210 years old. It can't be just a linear loss of brain volume for normal people, anyway, or the brain would eventually disappear. The curve has to resist zero in some way, like an exponential.
The opioid crisis was created by the FDA and CDC right here in the United States of America, because they care so much. My opinion is they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.
Please give equal time to understanding how doctors are forcing patients off the pain medication that they themselves prescribed (in my case for stage three breast cancer and complications of treatments eg mastectomy, chemo and radiation). It's called “forced taper” and it’s once again allowing govt to tell your doctor how to treat your illness.
I understand. I switched doctors 3x before finding one that understood I was l living with chronic, Severe pain.
I thought cancer patients were allowed to have opioids for pain? this is terrible! more like "forced suffering" added on to what you are already going through.
@@nancyhodgeson7544 I belong to many different online pain groups. You would be surprised. I see horror stories often about how even those in hospice care have a problem receiving opioids. Opioid production was cut drastically due to these lawsuits against manufacturers and there is a very real shortage. There are also cases of people being sent home from knee replacements with 3 days worth of pain medication and others getting nothing at all when they are discharged.
A lot of stories, I only trust documented and in person stories.
@@mariamiller1435 My late fiance and I were members of these groups after I was hit by an 18-wheeler. There is still so much negative propaganda against opioids. Here he is standing up in front of the FDA fighting for Opioids for Chronic Pain Patients. In Al Knowles Memory: ua-cam.com/video/7n435AFBrXw/v-deo.html (8 mins)
Chronic pain patients are being punished for something they had no control of and our suffering is tremendous!!
Opiates are physically addicted drugs and you may want to understand that long term use, lowers your pain threshold. Your liver will thank me, liver disease is a horrible death spiral. You drown from your body produced ammonia.
As a chronic pain patient who sought care in the 2010s to now. They are not pushing out this drug. In 2010s? Yes.
Oxy was very easy to get, as a child, for migraines rather than treating the migraines with migraine medication I was given oxy. Now 16 years later from your 2007 study, the face and prospects of pain patients are not one of overprescription but underprescription. Unless you have cancer, you aren't prescribed opioids easily now for chronic pain. I'm in 8/10 pain. Pain so bad it causes nausea. If treated with opiods, I get relief.
To not means to suffer until I can't any more, and I have to go to the ER. Because in prescribing me pain relief. The consideration of how I feel now means nothing. All my diagnoses mean nothing. All that matters? Will I be addicted. That's the only consideration in my care now. For possible future problems.
Your relief for non cancerous pain? Tylenol, CBT, mindfulness and biofeedback. If you have cancer well that's legitimate. Everything else? Unless it's in treatment guidelines for a diagnosis you will just have to suffer. Unless your pain is deemed legitimate enough for treatment are opioids aren't even considered. I was really frustrated by this segment. And Anna making it seem that chronic pain isn't a big deal and opioids help noting but are addicted so therfore bad. Not are addictive and should, therefore, be monitored closely for chronic pain patients needing this medication. Her reactive overcorrection is coming from someone who has never suffered severe pain, has no knowledge of pain healthcare or anything to do with medicine. It's an abstract concept to her. Cenk too Anna just was much more vocal and judgmental it felt like. Just like for the one writing best practices now. An overcorrection from a problem they caused and are now taking out on paitents. I get the anger to big donors. But there's repercussions going even harder against opioids for real patients. They actually need to relax it some and just follow up with paitents on these meds. Not drugging them and dumping them because now they aren't complaining on oxy so who needs to actually be a dr and follow up with how they're doing on this medication I put them on.
I'm also a chronic pain patient and their coverage about pain patients has always been disgusting. Have people died from overdose - yes. But those of us in real pain have a much less likelihood of addiction! But having their pain meds ripped from them has cost pain patients their lives!
And just like the rest of the country, since opioid are an "issue" they don't care about how us pain patients are affected!
If you can, look for a pain patient advocate in your area. If you have tiktok there are a lot of good advocates there. They've helped me a lot in advocating for myself with my doctor 🤗
@4 Love, by Sara Like you said, they see opioids as the issue. Then push, without ever needing chronic pain relief or talking to actual pain patients, advocating even harsher policies for opioids. Because it's not 'fixed' so the solution is harsher policies. Harming pain patients even more than they already are because they just see the problem of overdoses. Rather than taking a progressive approach where people in pain are treated under supervision. Given safe drugs and then helping with their underlying problems that they were seeking pain relief. Rather than the system we're in, where you get no help so you might turn to street drugs if you can't get help. And under no medical supervision, get addicted. This is a healthcare problem. And the solution isn't no opioids. It's regulated and monitored treatment. Not giving patients pain meds and forgetting they exist, which was the real cause of the crisis. Doctors failed patients in pain. And continue to do so. They outright have told me they don't prescribe those meds because of DEA audits. So they just choose not to deal with that and let patients suffer. Top university pain clinics don't prescribe pain medication here. If you don't follow the expected models a doctor knows about, you're lying about the symptoms you experience. Especially if you're a woman. Then you're just hysterical. It's psychosomatic.
Chronic pain sucks. I am in pain as I write this. I wasn't diagnosed till after the opioid crisis was well underway. I have never taken Oxycontin and don't want to considering what we all know now. It is a struggle to find effective pain treatments. They still don't have a safe effective solutions for the patients that actually need it.
We all just want to get through daily life and take care of our loved ones without being stopped by pain.
I have been in this game since 1970. Never have I ever been treated so poorly as I was in 2016 when they took away my pain medication’s that I needed on my life. I worked almost 35 years. If I did not have my pain medication, I would not have been able to work. Unfortunately, the pain clinic plans have went tremendously shower with many pain patients committing suicide. The CDC in the FDA a responsible for the suicides.
And here I am with stage four endometriosis among other things and I can’t get anything for pain.
I'm so sorry. I pray everyday for my doctor(he's about 80). People are so damn judgemental about things they really don't understand. With almost everyone thinking only junkies take them, it is a nightmare.
Live a day in severe chronic pain and then know there is a medicine that really helps but some people don't want anyone to have it.
I hope you find a doctor soon. Take care
I'm sorry dear. I had the same thing and when I went to the Dr, he said no to my pain. I was bleeding to death and in excruciating pain! I finally saw a Dr that looked right at me and said I needed a hysterectomy...I had 20 tumors! Thank God they were not cancerous. But I hurt every day now because I'm older and can't get anything for pain. I'm in my 60's and I hurt terribly. No quality of life do I have any more. It's wrong.
@@Michelles222 I hear that. Had to suffer fibroids until I was almost fifty even though I started hemorrhaging in high school because women are supposed to be the Vassals of Life or some shit. Got violently sick on morphine, but because the surgery was mostly done with scopes Tylenol 3 worked fairly well. The summers can be brutal but the winters have cheap heating bills.
I just read "Empire of Death" about the Sacklers. A really good read, about a really disgusting family.
LAW MAKERS: How evil can you be!??
Sackler family: YESSS!!!!
Focus on Pain Patients, Chronic and Intractable Pain patients they have and there is a need for them to be on palliative care medications. Your Pain Patients are being treated appallingly. How do I know as I’m in Pain Groups and the real Pain people are not being treated and they are not addicts, however 10 years ago n plus the only way and still to treat this pain when Patients are truly suffering were n still is opioids. Yes if not educated or managed properly opioids will become less effective and yes they are dependent not addicted in most cases. I am a pain patient in Australia and what doctors did to me was crazy. I came off equivalent to 950mg of morphine, I was not abusing the medications I was taking as prescribed. This does cause problems for us we have the pathology to show we are in pain but they don’t know how to treat us once they take opioids away or we become educated and understand that we then have other issues that make our pain worse due to what we were put on initially
WHY AREN’T THE SACKLER’S BANKRUPT AND IN JAIL!
America is shameless.
I’m with you there they care about people just their bottom line their murders
Instead they were punished by having their name taken off museums. They should have taken every penny and assets they own from every family member and put in the gutter with the people they put there.
cause they rich!
This would be like if fire arm manufacturers were allowed to pour money into Congress to write gun legisla.... Oh wait....nm 🤦🏼♂️
Pain management doctors have pulled so far back on pain meds, people with terminal pain are suffering now. We need to find a middle ground. I wonder how many people have been pushed to the streets with intractable pain, and terminal cancer. I can still get pain medicine but at such a small dose it leaves me in pain.
Sad stuff
Curious if you have a cite for this, I am curious to learn more. Surprised they wouldn't rely more on other kinds of pain killers.
I don’t have terminal pain, but in December I hurt my back and was having such excruciating spasms that I couldn’t walk. It was absolute agony every couple of minutes, and I had to beg the doctor for T3s. He wasn’t going to give me anything except some muscle relaxants because, as he said, he doesn’t like to prescribe pain pills. I am amazed that doctors were fine with just doling out way stronger stuff for as long as they did.
The CDC came out with a statement to doctors to please STOP cutting so many patients back in fear of getting in trouble.
UA-cam..Dr. Thomas Kline
Ok but let me tell u my story. I have a disability and because ppl have abused the system and cost ppl lives they started taking it away from the ppl that actually do need it. So yea I still get some however I live in far more pain and can not live as full or active life as I used to as legislators decided I should have to suffer more even tho it’s highly regulated. I have never misused it nor broke the rules and I’ve been doing it for 15 yrs. I’m 38. I will b in a wheelchair by the end of my life. I have to use them to go to the mall or a theme park now as I live in more pain. I will b on them the rest of my life. I want legislation to change so I don’t have to live with this much pain. This is how all the chronic pain patients I’ve spoken to at the office. Our docs hate it. I was taken out by a drunk driver and had to get cut out. Yes there should b strict regulations. Legislators shouldn’t b able to tell our docs how much we’re allowed to have when they don’t live like this nor do they take care of patients whom do.
You (and your doctor) are aware that the 90 mg per day equivalent is only an AMA RECOMMENDATION and not,necessarily a rule or law. I’ve been on class two medications for over twenty years and I have a very good reporre (think I spelled that wrong) with my doctor of the last fifteen years so,I am prescribed three 60 mg OxyContin per day and it works. Been through several doctors and neurologists before I found this wonderful,understanding doctor. He’s not crazy about it and I can tell he has precautions but,he understands and is sympathetic towards my level of chronic pain. But,yeah,that 90 mg equivalent per day is only a recommendation and it’s stupid to throw every patient dealing with pain issues into one lump category. Different people have different issues with different tolerances to pain. Hope you get your meds straightened out.
You need to listen to Ren "Sick Boi". Ren & Chin-Chilla "Chalk Outlines".
Like you, many people have a legitimate medical reason for opioids. And you should have access to them.
Those that grossly over prescribed these drugs for non legitimate reasons are the problem.
@@myleslong5584 no. In my state u r limited. I used to get 3 10 mg of morphine and 6 10 mg lortabs a day. And that was all I was taking. I was able to work full time and go to the gym and go hiking still. Now since they changed the laws I’m allowed 4 10 mg of lortab a day. I also take 4 800 ibuprofen, 4 800 gabapentin, and 4 muscle relaxers. Daily now. On top of shots every 3 months in the office and shots in outpatient center once a year. an I am forced to live in a life of constant agony. Did I have pain b4 yes but it was more throbbing pain s now constant stabbing pain. I have been with the same doc for 10 of the 15 yrs I’ve been on the meds. It breaks his heart his hands are tied. Not federally. Locally. I’m lucky I even get 4 10s. The only ppl whom get more in my state r on hospice. My sister in law used to b on fentanyl patches and perks. She only gets 3 10s lortab a day now. Which do u think is more harmful? Getting more pain pills a day or all the freaking meds I have to take a day now?
@@michaelburk9171 yea it pisses me off that between the pill mills ruining it and the legislature whom have never met me nor live in constant pain have more control over what I put in my body than I do. But I am a woman in America so what do I expect.
The Sacklers belong in prison.
Just remember there are 2 sides to every story. So I will say this. There are thousands of people that are in chronic pain every day. And can't get the pain medicine that they need. I was 1 of them
I would cry myself to sleep the pain was so Bad. So what do people do when they are in pain and the doctor will no give you the medicine you need. Turn to the streets. The DEA caused this mess with the heroin and the fentanyl crisis we have.
Yes! This exactly!!
Well,we sent our soldiers to Afghanistan and that’s when heroin started flooding the market. If everyone is on prescription medications,the government wouldn’t be able to sell their heroin on the streets. So,the solution is to cut them off the prescription meds and forcing these pain patients,who are now dependent (not necessarily addicted) upon opiate based medications to turn to the black market and buy the heroin that our wonderful and thoughtful politicians have supplied us with. That’s the way I see it.
And now people with legitimate ailments and severe pain that may need something to get relief are just SOL.
Meanwhile when I want some opioids because I have bad pain, I can't have any, because those fookers along with some crooked pain doctors ruined it for everyone else.
And the bastards lobby in developing countries to keep late stage cancer patients from getting prescribed straight morphine to railroad the medical/pharmacy establishment into the much more expensive opioid pills while patients languish in extreme pain. May Satan keep Hell extra hot for these over privileged goons.
I'm with ya!
PROP and the former head of the CDC, Sex offender Tom Frieden, are the ones who caused this entire "opioid epidemic." It's all BS to ban pain meds based on their opinions, not facts. Zealots all with big money backing them.
The frustrating part about the whole thing is people with chronic pain like me. We get pushed drugs that don't actually work. For illnesses I was told at Twenty eight that I would need to go on morphine soon... But then when you are in pain and you actually need medication. It's like pulling teeth because they think you're seeking... I know enough about medicine because I was a veterinary Surgical technician and I said no To the morphine then they recommended fentanyl patches and that is when I realized... Medicine apparently isn't there to help patients? It's really sad... Currently I smoke marijuana and it helps w 80% of my chronic/autoimmune symptoms. And i have a few lol 😂 the medical system is broken... iv seen it first hand since i was a kid w my grandmother after 2 strokes... and now thru my life. Its always been the same, they were just better at hiding it back then
take care - I was there.
Unfortunately, we don't have any type of legal marijuana here.
The steroid injections doctors are forcing now, especially spinal injections. I am only now realizing the long-term effects on my spine. Scary.
@piper Maisie Mae I moved for legal access to medical marijuana. Honestly the whole method is a joke and so $$$. But there is a peace of mind when i have a card and can smoke in my back yard lol. The fees and hoops.. smh its honestly crazy to me.
@m.e. c. oh man! In my 20s ... there were so many injections. They offered far more than they should have *knowing what i know now... and they hardly ever worked for me! SI joint injections were the only ones that helped but i HATE needles so i always would fight em on it.
I wonder what America would be like if we weren't so heartlessly capitalist. How many people had a billion-dollar business idea, but actually wanted to act ethically and were thus bought out by those ruthless venture capitalist bastards before they could become rich and actually help the country?
... Why aren't those monsters not in prison? *They're directly responsible for THOUSANDS OF DEATHS.*
How are they not in prison for life?
Because of them people who need pain pills can’t get any relief 🤬
Yup. It's horrible.
They want it that way
As a person with an extremely painful genetic disorder, I received opioid treatment for many years. I was responsible and never abused it. Despite my condition, I was able to attend school, function at a job, take care of my home and even grow a garden. I was active and at a healthy weight. After the CDC issued it's "guidance," my insurance dropped every doctor that prescribes opioids for chronic pain. I've been virtually bedridden for years. My job is gone. My education is gone. My home is a wreck and my garden is dead. I can no longer handle physical therapy, so I have gained weight and lost most of my muscle mass. I now have high blood pressure and diabetes. I have no quality of life whatsoever, and the worst part is I know people who are suffering even more than I am.
People who use the drugs for mental trauma suffer as much as you do and perhaps if those suffering physical injury would stop allowing themselves to be pitted against and shaming those that need them to function because of their own traumatic injury, you could work together to see that people arw allowed to make the medical choices that work for them instead of having government insert themselves into the decisions and rights of adults who should be able to suffer or not. What you describe as functionality is the same thing many opioid addicts want but criminalizing them means they can't lawfully work and purchase them, become loaded up on unhelpful antidepressants and miserable or as bedridden and suffering as you. Being a functional human being makes people get better physically and mentally. Living under a cloud of shame and uselessness is what makes all of this worse.
@@maebandy -
serious lack of empathy dude..., you have no idea, absolutely none, as to the amount of suffering Sara has endured,.... but please, being a functional asshole, please diagnose through your false equivalency and tell us all how all how to live better lives...
@@maebandy I wasn't shaming anyone, I was describing part of my personal experience while pointing out some of the many flaws in the system. I know there's a lot of people out there that suffer more than me in many ways. I said so in my comment. I'm not trying to pit anyone against anyone else, and I don't judge. Psychological pain is just as real and just as hard to live with as physical pain, but those in charge don't seem to really care about helping people with either (or both). I agree that criminalizing addiction inflicts more trauma on people who are already traumatized and creates stigma when people deserve empathy and respect.
I'm sorry for what the CDC did to you. They treat opioids like they are illegal (they aren't), arrest doctors who prescribe them, leaving patients to suffer in horrific pain, and vilify patients who do take them. There are organizations out there fighting for you.
@@saramurray3057 I apologize if I inferred antagonistic implications against addicts in your comment. And I don't think you need to qualify yourself or anyone as having suffered more or less. Suffering and pain are a thing that doesn't need measurement in order to be heard or validated. People don't come into this world expecting to live pain-free existences. But they do have the expectation from birth that their cries of pain will be heard and responded to by others with nurturing so that they can heal. Please excuse my direct and aggressive tone, I don't actively mean to come off as such. I guess because I've had to argue the right to be heard my whole life I subconsciously come off as more combatitive than I mean to with people that don't deserve my hurt. I'm very sorry. And I do hear your pain, all.of it. It is real and doesn't need to be measured as more or less than mine or anyone else's to matter. Nor is it at the discretion of lawmakers to decide how best to address it. Especially considering how many of them are closet addicts themselves. Oops there I go again..🤭
Whole story was told in a HULU miniseries called "Dopesick."
It was a book also.
The Sackler family has a lot to pay for their horrible behavior in the opioid crisis, and even as it moves onto Fentanyl they may have a stake in that also lol
Nope. The real enemy is lobbying. Opium has been addictive for thousands of years.
fentanyl is a chinese weapon to kill americans.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 opium is like aspirin next to today's drugs.
Some of us can only function with pain by using opiates. We are already suffering, without our medications we cannot do anything.I am so sick of feeling like a felon, I was not part of any study, most days I would rather be dead than trying to cope with pain.Leave us alone, stop our suffering, ask us about our lived experience and don't count street drug deaths in our suicide numbers.The opioid crisis is a construct, life is hard enough without these comments.
I'm sorry for your pain and the draconian way it is not treated. Plus all the stigma.
I hope you're under the care of a doctor you have a good relationship with, one in which the trust is felt on both sides. I'm so incredibly sorry you've been forced to deal with the ever-increasing stigma attached to pain medication or any potential judgment slanted your way and associated shame you've been made to feel. I have a deep well of compassion for you that is filled with equal parts guilt and empathy; the latter is helped by my own recent onset of debilitating health issues and physical pain. The guilt, however, I can attribute to my own bleak history of opioid addiction. It didn't start out with 'partying' and it's never involved a 'let's party' mentality, unlike the stereotype attributed to addicts. Many of us stumbled into torturous habits with the help of well-intended healthcare providers, at a time when there was far less awareness of opiate addiction.
Mine started during a period of time when I needed a series of dental surgeries and experienced a lot of complications. I knew a little about alcoholism, but I had no understanding of drug addiction and I was completely ignorant of the potential for pharmaceutical abuse - that it was even possible to get addicted to legally prescribed medications. When you don't know, you have no warning, you have no guard up and you're caught completely unprepared. I was unprepared and I pay for it every day. The guilt I feel whenever I see comments like yours is based on the fear that my past behavior might've contributed to any of your hardship. It's only in having some idea of just how hard it's been for you, that I feel such remorse.
You should never be treated like a criminal or be made to feel somehow less than for having to struggle with chronic pain on a daily basis. One is tragic enough, without compounding it with the other. I've experienced both... opiate addiction and later an ongoing legitimate condition that requires pain management.
Pulled an Opium Wars on their own people and their asses are probably sitting around a pool somewhere without a care in the world. Disgraceful
There's a bunch of people suffering from pain conditions that cant get the treatment they need because of the addicts.
Another reason is because of greedy capitalists jacking up the prices.
As a person who has been DX w/ acute, chronic, severe, unresolved pain, yes, I require narcotic pain relievers almost everyday of my life.
The problem is getting REAL PAIN RELIEF!
B/c so many addicts have fuked up the system, the ppl like me that actually need narcotic pain relief, now we have to settle for less than adequate pain relief. At least I know I do.
There are days when I think about just taking the whole damned script & checking out of here b/c the pain is more than I can bear & I know there's no hope of it ever getting any better.
This all started at age 42, I'm now almost 65. So 23 yrs on the same pain med w/ only one increase in mgs!
I was given oxycontin once. That was a total train wreck as it did 0 for my pain! My Dr. gave me 60 pills & I returned 48 to him 2 wks later & asked to be returned to what I was originally on.
I just wanna find some real relief, especially on my really bad days. 😢
How can it be acute and chronic at the same time?
Of course you can have acute A ND chronic pain.
Americans are working themselves to death and as a result they have a lot of pain.
Corporations are NOT people. Thank Ronnie for that too.
I think Aaron Ra said something to the effect of "I'll believe a corporation is a person when Texas executes one."
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY COVERING THIS HORRIBLE FAMILY!
Cant be on pain killers everyday but heart medication everyday is ok because there are no liability issues.
Pain killers will eventually kill you and that’s a fact.
They should do a report on how many Black people were denied powerful pain killers (like myself) 🤔Although the racist stereotypes they used, that Black people are lying for drugs... turned out to be a good thing... except for my stomach & liver that's being abused by the bottles of ibuprofen I swallow for pain.
The only difference between legal and illegal drugs is how much you donate to Congress.
America: The corruption in your politics is exceeded only by the corruption in the corporate sector
One in the same
Corruption in the two sectors is intertwined. Political corruption in America rarely has anything to do with average Americans corrupting politicians. I am a regular middle class person and I don't get to bribe anybody.
For someone who suffers with chronic issues I have been so negatively affected by this war. Opiods being demonized after they pimped out their drug almost killed me. Screw you Saclers
I would argue in some areas like rural Virginia, it is very difficult to get a prescription for opioids. I have really bad lower back pain and have had lower back surgery that didn't take. I've been in pain management for over 2 years now and the first thing they told me when I had my FIRST appointment, WE DON'T GIVE OPIOID PRESCRIPTIONS.
Okay, can you help me with my pain? Thousands of dollars, hours of PT, countless injections, nerve burns and acupuncture etc. I don't think that I'll ever get an opioid prescription, which is fine Cannabis is doing okay for me now. But my point is that in an area like mine in rural Virginia, that was hit very hard by the opioid epidemic YOU CANT GET PAIN MEDICINE IF YOU NEED IT. I have had a handful of people pass away that I knew and grew up with because they couldn't get off of the dope. And because of these assholes wanting to get as much money out of people as they could, they are responsible for their deaths and millions of others.
I say this to also highlight fact that people who are in real chronic pain myself included could not get opioids if we tried because of how bad we had it the first time. So for people who actually need pain medicine for pain that cannot be relieved by any other measure will have an uphill battle getting relief. It's shitty and broken healthcare system we have, and we're basically left to suffer because no one's listening. It seems like no matter what you do or who you talk to it just never gets addressed properly. We need health care reform bad. We need A lot of things, but corporations are going to suck up as much money as they can regardless of who it hurts or the consequences of those actions. Any fines or penalties that they face is literally just a slap on the wrist and drop in the bucket of their wallets.
It’s a huge problem for those who have true pain. The stigma when you ask, or insinuate by explaining all the things you have done that hasn’t worked….it’s disgusting. I was a nurse, and I know how much the healthcare system labels. The thing is, when you have pain, YOU HAVE PAIN. I never wanted to ever make anyone feel out of sorts or leave them in pain. Being an advocate for your patients needs to come back into the medical profession. With your history , I’m surprised they still haven’t gotten around to helping you. ( besides marijuana)
@@sondrawatkins4976 I'm only 33 too! I'm told that because of my age I shouldn't be dealing with what I'm dealing with too and that's another reason I don't get any help. It's even worse for someone who is neurodivergent like me. I have ADHD and it's really hard for me to explain things when I go to the doctor and if I don't write all my stuff down in notes then I'll forget about talking about something that I wanted to bring up. My naivety is taken advantage of quite a bit and since I don't have an advocate, I feel like I get swept under the rug far too often.
I had one neurologist tell me to go to Jehovah's witnesses website and search up anxiety and stress and that would help me with my pain. Another one told me to go to another state and to move and basically change your living situation will change your health.
It has left me a very bitter and broken person
And now there are so many people who legitimately need these and can't get them. We overcorrected this problem to the point we are now just letting people suffer due to under medicating or not medicating them at all
True
Yep I'm one. I have crps it's brutal, and I'm litterally begging my doctor to help me, and she won't.
@@Llynnyia Patients shouldn't have to beg them, that is inhumane. Prolonged pain can cause PTSD
These pos's ruined my life! I lost BOTH my parents to oxytocin AND my step dad. I myself became addicted and losing years of my life. Luckily today I have it back with almost 7 years clean.
Congratulations on your sobriety🎉 Purdue pharma ruined my life! 15 years sobriety now! They need to be held accountable take everything from them and split it up to families effected and to help drug addiction.
@@michaeldowdy3176 Good comments, both of you. 🍀💐💐🍀
Y'all, THIS is why I turn into your program - for NEWS, not for petty, back-biting, spiteful hate. Pls keep telling us the facts, like you have in this very important post, about drug pushers bribing the U.S. gvmnt!
When is enough money -enough money??!! These billionaires and millionaires just want more and more no matter the cost.
It’s like 85% of people that are chronic sufferers that actually don’t get addicted. Did should be handled the same as guns. Background checks, X-rays two doctors saying this medicine is needed. I’m part of a group in Australia where young people are in that much pain and can’t get the drugs they need the take their own lives.
So lower dosages safe scripts to stop dr shopping only one physician prescribed this medication.
And I hate this, this is the problem I got taken off opioid medication properly and now I can’t pay golf I can’t play tennis it disables and you have a couple of talking heads acting like the government who they hate. Saying chronic patient pills that have opioid properties and someone goes on is letting the patient know the dangers the addiction risks.
TYT is happy to say why the government shouldn’t control transgederism or abortions. On behalf of a pain sufferer who has a ripped out right shoulder and gone through every medication under the sun may have the need for doses of oxy or other opioids, please on behalf of pain sufferers shut your mouths. You have no idea what daily chronic pain is like and the mental anguish of suicide is real.
TYT can be so two faced when they are like no it’s a discussion between parents kids and doctors whether its surgery and an issue they think is ok. But they can’t say the same thing about patients who suffer daily and can’t carry shopping bags, sleep very little cause they’re always woken up by pain jump on there network and say no OxyContins so bad and dangerous that pain sufferers should just shut up and deal with it.
Not very progressive this piece is exactly what you would here on fox about transgender people. Only difference is chronic pain has a higher amount of people suffering.
Point is you have won for the most part and pain patients who literally can’t do much at all suffer each and everyday thank you for nothing and while you’re at it point out the hypocrisy of your point
Australia and Africa are the counties the Sacklers are taking their business to. Europe is much smarter and if you need high amounts of opiates, you stay in a hospital.
Opiates have been around for a long time and they were NEVER meant for long term use, because your body builds up tolerance. What the Sacklers did was create oxy, which is the same chemical make up as heroin and peddle it as non addictive
If there is a hell, these people deserve to rot in it for eternity.
Excellent story guys. I don't have any skin in this game, other than being an American.
So the National Academies used the Francis Bacon defense: “Sure I took those bribes, but I didn’t let them influence me.”
We have the best government MONEY can BUY.
Everyone needs to watch Dopesick. Excellent drama about the Sacklers and the birth of the opioid epidemic. Michael Keaton is excellent as a small town WV doctor that gets hooked himself. Brilliant and real.
They’re at it again. Deadliest drug mafia family in the world. I know at least twenty people that they murdered. Including my boyfriend in 2013. Back injury.
It would be suprising if they were not scheming, that would be news.
My mother has lupus and I just found out that I have it-but my mother has been on oxy for many years and she can't even get her prescription half he time because the strict laws
That's the problem with these laws. Plus the drs think they'll get in trouble for prescribing them so they cut off patients who have been on them successfully for years, then they turn to unsafe street drugs because they either have pain, are addicted, or both. Not many would choose to dangerous street drugs if they could easily get safe medical grade stuff. Unsafe street fentanyl is the reason for the insane increase in overdoses, not the pills a Dr prescribes.
My girlfriend git her thumb bit off by a dog last year and they gave her ibuprofen. B.S. Pain management has been taken out if Western medicine because these companies made drug atticks will over prescribing. Now we are stuck with no pain management when its necessary. All because of these A.H's
Honestly just get the pitchforks and torches already. This won't end until we stop putting up with corruption.
BTW, only in murrica are actual street drugs cheaper than medication for pain. Let us pause there for a second and appreciate the fact that this country is totally dystopian.
Yeah that fact truly is insane to wrap your head around
The true sad thing is everyone BLAMES the addict ....... & the bad actors leave with their pockets full of money.
No other settlement has ignored victims
@katherinemoorhead338 I was referring more towards everyday people & thier communities. I'm surrounded by American Indian Reservations & they are devastated by the effect of Opioids, which leads to incarceration & discrimination. It's like another round of genocide.
Fortunately, most people who are experiencing real bodily pain (and will continue to do so until their natural death) can manage a 30-day prescription without chugging it in two days.
what about nerve blocks
@Ihayt Fukkingsocialmedia most insurance doesn't cover those. I unfortunately suffer from chronic pain and a pain prescription cost me 30 for 30 day supply out of pocket. Taking shots cost 300 a month out pocket. When you can't work due to pain making you disabled you can't afford the 300 month. People that don't go through pain don't understand. Not everyone is a addict. It's medication to just live somewhat pain free
@@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia No! I used to get those shots into my spine every three or four months (hard to remember) and the last time I went,the doctor performing the procedure was in a hurry to get to lunch and left me with a giant,golf ball sized knot on my back. Also,got stuck during a myleogram and the specialist hit a nerve in my neck that left my left leg temporarily paralyzed. Fuck those injections into the spine. Really.
@@roysoliz3610 Yes,there is a difference between dependence and addiction. I say bless my OxyContin and my insurance.
Please consider pain patients when you’re doing stories like these. I don’t care about the Sackler family, but I sure as hell care about being a pain patient during a moral panic over drugs that pain patients have nothing to do with. It is illegal, street made fentanyl and an abhorrent war on drugs policy, coupled with a for profit healthcare system causing the “opioid crisis,” not legitimately prescribed pain medication. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here, and while we’re at it, let’s remember that it is the strict policies by the cdc, who, and dea keeping people using dangerous, street made fentanyl. Look no further than Switzerland to see what kind of policies work to offset addiction and substance abuse. Please reconsider stories like these in terms of how you are telling them.
I live in Southern NM. I have a genetic disorder that causes extreme pain. I currently take less pain medication than I was allowed 20 years ago when diagnosed. I am 50 and would not care if I didn't wake tomorrow. I couldn't care less if addicts get drugs. Selfish or not, I'd like to not live in misery.
I went from OxyContin to Heroin to Methadone (via the yellow pages before the internet to Suboxone. 😅 Yeeeha! Capitalism 🎉 good work Sacklers!!
Call it what it is,bribery.
But THC is bad remember that
I'm a nurse and can tell you I've been to the point of quitting due to how most opiate addicted patients act. If someone takes oxycodone 10 mg three times a day for 5 years there is nothing in this universe and allowed by any hospital policy that will make your pain disappear due to the tolerance your developed. It's a nightmare when an addict gets injured or has surgery and have real pain. I'm compassionate but I'm not a verbal punching bag. Unless you are dying of extreme pain from cancer or another actual disease or injury you don't need ungodly ammounts of opiates for so long.
I am in chronic pain from accident but I use over counter before opioids. I argue with my nurse to be off the morphine in a hospital from surgery. I even quit my pain meds 1 month early Tylenol 3. The doctor wanted me to go through pain management.
Well, since your comment clearly comes off as highly judgemental & like you think you are above these people, I find the idea that you act compassionately towards them to be highly suspicious & wholly unbelievable. This wealthy family with the help of our government & a whole lot of people in your profession (& adjacent to it) turned them into what they are for money & freebies but somehow it's all their fault you did so now, right?
I'm so tired of medical "professionals" who treat these people like they can't be sick, they can't be in pain & like it's a moral failing that's entirely self-inflicted that they are addicts now. Addiction is 100% a medical issue. It has changed their entire brain chemistry & the brain's entire reward system is highly corrupted.
These pills were given out like they were candy for several decades but somehow you are expecting that the patient who has had zero medical knowledge to have known better than to take them when the people who went to school for over a decade did not know better to perscribe them for everything so said medical professionals now get a pass for helping to cause this while the least knowledgeable & victims of it now get all the blame? Gtfoh. Maybe you should find another line of work because it's obvious you look down on these people & if you think it's not obvious to them as well, you'd be very wrong. That is very likely why they aren't treating you kindly either, which is actually a self-inflicted problem.
The minute someone gets classified as a drug seeker, suddenly they no longer can break their arm or need surgery because their ovary twisted or have kidney stones or anything else one goes to the doctor for. They're just drug seeking. Throw them out. I'm so effing tired of the US & it's complete lack of care for it's people & lack of accountability for the behavior of those who have money & those in power. It's a cautionary tale for the rest of the world to avoid becoming instead of the beacon of hope & freedom it was to so many who didn't live in the US just 30 years ago. There are 3rd world countries with better social care. The US is totally number 1. It's number 1 at failing the citizens they should have been responsible for. Ugh.
@@tazhienunurbusinezz1703 Hold your horses, I never said no one is in pain. If a person is on morphine or dilaudid pill for years, few things can help with pain after surgery. A sufentanyl or remifentanyl drip could help but no hospital uses that for pain control, just during surgery or few cases while intubated and sedated. The problem came obviously with overprescription. And some people on top of that take other stuff. It's a combination of overprescribing and opiate abuse. I've given, in a critical care setting post op, 18mg of morphine IV, 10mg of dilaudid IV, 200mcg of fentanyl, barbiturates and benzos, and other stuff to same patient for acute pain in less than an hour and patient still screaming nothing has been done for pain. That would kill a grown healthy man in minutes. No one gets thrown out of the hospital needing surgery if they have an accident opiate addicted or not. But when I'm truly trying to help giving everything that I can and asking the MD for more, the patient cursing out, threating, abusing verbally and sometimes phisycally hospital staff is not going to help the cause.
Our country is only a more sophisticated version of a 3rd world country where everybody shakes everyone down and bribery is simply the cost of doing business. Congress is completely under influence of lobbyists and PACs but the worst part is that every citizen wants to take money out of politics but the people on the receiving end are the same who need to pass laws to abolish it!
THIS.
What's also terrible, because of these people who lie about this, is many people who do have chronic pain now have to jump through hoops to get any relief. Just to prove you have chronic pain is one thing. Then some pain clinics make it so you're a guinea pig and if you don't agree to the painful procedures they want you to go through, they'll refuse you your medication! If you're already on a scheduled pain medication, if something happens where the pharmacy messes up, or any medication gets lost, accidentally destroyed, or stolen, the person they are prescribed for is just screwed. If it's stolen you can make a police report, but what if you didn't count your medication at the pharmacy in front of staff and just trusted them, then you take it home and don't notice it's off count until your prescription is almost out? The doctor says just take half of what you normally take until you get your next script. It's too late for the pharmacy to do a count and your choice is to be in pain or risk jail, a reaction, and overdose if you get something off the street! It's sad what some have to go through just because they have chronic pain!
Very true or sometimes the pharmacy will change brands without telling you and you are stuck with a med that barely works for a whole month while they all look the other way with a sucks to be you attitude. I remember seeing complaints when when I got burned and started researching a brand I was switched to and saw the VA changed brands on vets nationwide with the same med that didn't work. My current pharmacist said something about the binders and fillers some brands use causes this problem because they have to put the required amount of opiate in the meds, but who knows. Even CVS got caught buying/selling ineffective/fake drugs made in india (non-opiate but still critically needed)and not quality tested here and they were on the news.
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Opiates helped me maintain a somewhat normal life. Had no problems until they cut me off. Now I live in chronic pain 24/7. Thank you . Politics it sucks
kind of makes you wonder if the U.S. had any business relations with Afghanistan when the gulf wars were going on and if the opium poppy trade played any role.
Underprescription is a real problem not many ever discuss.
Go for it .
Well there are people with an actual need for those medications just to move around. I don't mean because they are addicted or dependent. I mean some people that don't take them move around with difficulty and drastic quality of life deterioration. When they take the medication, they are able to. The problem is addiction. Some people can take a prescribed dose and responsibly increase but some start taking extra as soon as they get them. If you restrict prescriptions for people who need them, when/where/how do they get relief without being a prisoner of whatever condition they have?
Then what happens when they're desperate for that relief, take medication unsupervised(increase chance for addiction) and/or risk getting from street(overdose risk, legal complications)?
Personally, as a chronic pain sufferer, l found oxy’s to be a god send. My own perspective is l became addicted too being without pain once more, a stance any sane person who spent years on the edge of ending it all, would gladly accept…be damned with opiate side effects. Just saying. Now it’s gone? H helps.
…& just to add, with respect. I’ve known more folks die from alcohol & st drugs because oxys were pulled & they went for old time alternatives. Out went the baby with the bath water.
@@Nobody-cw4wm agreed!
I'm a paraplegic. I enjoy pain every second of my life. But that's not good enough. I have to see my doctor every 3 to 4 months to be able to get my pain meds. I have been using it for 23 years. Still not addicted unless you consider my daily use an addiction. Folks can easily get addicted while others don't. What my big worry is is that the pain pill manufacturers will use this fight against them to raise the price so high I will just go insane from pain because I couldn't afford the meds. So be careful about making pain meds the total bad guys.
I'm so sorry you have to suffer in pain every day. It's BS you have to see your doctor every 3-4 months. WTH is wrong with people. I can understand people who have pretend ailments abuse the system. Restrictions should not apply to you or people who are obviously suffering in pain. Wish there were something I could do.
@@theriddlerUSA feel sorry for those that have severe hidden pain. They are abused and ignored more. for many getting addicted is a better choice than being without. Pain cannot be described to anyone unless they themselves suffer from pain.
I totally get what you're saying. I'm in pain every day. I take my pain pills but I'm not addicted. Still, I have to spend 200.00 a month to see my doctor to get my pain meds (not oxygen btw). The fear is that they'll decide pain is not real and cut us all off ... or pain is very real and quadruple the price for relief. It's ALWAYS the people in real pain that are targeted to suffer the most.
25 plus years for me.
Spinal cord injury - but ambulatory.
I have to see my Dr every 30 days.
In addition to chronic pain, I'm treated like a parolee.
@@kitty554 exactly. Luckily I have a good doc that gives me no pain in getting prescriptions. Also since we in pain can have some pretty bad jokes, mine is are we having fun yet ?
Like someone said politicians should wear mascot uniforms so they know and we know who they’re working for
Since I started on a good cannabis extract a little over 4 years ago & my prescription drug use has almost vanished! I take about 25% of the blood pressure medication I used to take, and nothing else! #CannabisCures
They r still hassling legitimate patients in order to gain political points with families who lost loved ones, but these increasingly difficult hoops to jump through do nothing to address the addicts. As well, drug reps r typically 4 year degree (generic business) young & beautiful lunch caterers. Prior to the crack down, u could b in any medical office at lunch time & watch the drug reps roll lunch in weekly. Some had so many companies rotating through they could eat daily on the drug reps tab. R u telling me that my doogie houser type doctor (graduated high school at 16 etc) who had 20 years experience as an anesthesiologist couldnt see through the sales pitch??
We never hold the right people accountable in this country. It wasnt one area of the system, it was bad actors & greed at every step of the process. Now cancer patients, chronic illness patients such as MS, & chronic damage from injury, now THOSE patients r being treated like criminals who r under the thumb of the medical professionals who can say yay or nay on scripts.
Oh, but didn't you know. We CPP's are the real problem! I stopped all care for my chronic condition. I had a recent er doc tell me I need to "trust" them.
My response, "Don't use big words you don't understand."
I'm a 50 year old woman who lost a baby in 2002 at 6 mos pregnant due to a chromosomal defect. After the DNC (I was mostly alone with 3 kids and a hubby in the army stationed in S. Korea at the time). I had endometriosis following the DNC and was prescribed Vicodin and ultram for a year. I was well addicted to both. I had a hysterectomy eventually leading to not needing them for pain anymore so was just cut off like doctors in my experience DO. I was so addicted by then that I called in my own prescriptions for over another year before being caught. I ended up doing almost 3 years for this, more than most pedos do for their first offense. I was (still am to an extent) treated like I was trash for it by doctors AND the law.
I've never harmed anyone, I didn't steal anything (I paid a LOT for them actually) and hurt only myself and my kids by being away from them so long. We need a SERIOUS overhaul of the justice system in this country!
There would not be an opioid epidemic if people would not buy them and take them illegally. I am a disabled veteran and I have taken opioids for over 15 years because I want to live a halfway decent life and guess what, I have never taken any more than I have been prescribed and I have never overdosed or moved on to heroine. The people that take opioids for fun or just to get a buzz disgust me because they make it very hard for me to get them prescribed. Someone needs to do a story on the people like me who are grouped in with the drug addiction society and are treated like we are just using drugs for fun. The V.A. stopped prescribing opioids many years ago and left the veterans that use them to fend for themselves, if you had to live in my body for a day without pain medication you would understand how frustrating and stressful this subject is for me.
Exactly, Chad! I suffered a debilitating injury when I was 28, and I've suffered from chronic pain since then. This was when hydrocodone came in Pez dispensers. I've been through so many procedures, patches, pills, and PT that I could blow the curve on any pain management curve. This opioid epidemic was a marketing tool that the Sacklers used to get rich. Now, we, the crippled and suffering, have to pay the price while they still make fortunes and bribe the politicians. They should all be in prison.
I think the point is that opioids are sometimes prescribed for people who don't really need them. There is a documentary on this.
Addiction is a disease, not a character flaw.
@@allenelledge How is it a disease?
Well said!
Legit patients should not have to suffer because people have addictions.
Opiod addction is not the only kind. You can be addicted to pretty much anything that alters your brain chemistry.
You know whats way worse and killing people by the millions, and is as addictive as any other drug (except cannabis)?
SUGAR.
You want to sue or jail the sugar processing plants? Or just the manufacturers that put it in ALL of our food?
And this is why instead of just fining these people we should have jailed them the first time
So Ana and Cenk i know this family did an awful thing to not only patients but Drs. as well.
I get it. Oxycontin didn't do anything for me, i asked for a different medication. Also, felt very fearful picking up scripts but this is beside the point.
Ana the way you sneered those percentages out, very off putting. You seem ok with the fact that only 7 - 22% of Americans are in pain. Well 7% is 2,323,300.00 people.
22% is 73,018,000 people suffering needlessly.
If those percentages are even correct which i doubt. I'm not ok with those Americans having to suffer. The FDA is now realizing they overreacted and trying to rewrite the laws but hard to put the genie back in the bottle.
I appreciate your post. I hope you are doing much better.
Thank you, I've been dealing with my chronic pain for over decade, and only within the last 6 months was able to get on opioids. For the last decade I was using multiple different NSAIDS at Max dose everyday, and they didn't do much. Now I have stomach ulcers and chronic nausea because of that. I'm beyond blessed to be able to get back on these pain meds, my partner was severely injured 20 years ago in a work place accident. He can no longer work and he still hasn't received a single cent from the accident. Worker's comp will not cover these meds, and epidurals just make the pain worse (just like for me and practically everyone I know). I know many other people with severe lower back pain who refuse to see doctors for it, because frankly it's obvious that doctors will assume you are just pretending to get high off narcotics. The entire country seems totally ok for people to be completely unable to turn themselves in bed without screaming let alone being able to get out of bed, while denying ANY government assistance whether through disability or having a caretaker come help or finding housing or going to a nursing home. It's absolutely bonkers, but I've come to realize the Soviet Russia jokes were backwards, as Soviet Russia is far more forward thinking than today's "America". Plus the DEA being absolute dip shits about the Adderall shortage is not helping either. It's not a "war on drugs" it's a "war on disabled people", if they absolutely gave a shit about people overdosing they would be putting everyone on opioids under the guidance of medical doctors so they wouldn't be playing Russian roulette with street drugs whether accidental overdose or nasty complications like infections from shared needles. Instead they decided pushing people off of opioids was the best idea, not realizing they were pushing people into suicide or into the street to buy drugs to try to manage their pain.
@@StAmander ~ "It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on disabled people." You nailed it with that comment. The woman who died of a stroke was very likely a chronic pain patient. She was away from home and tried to get some pain medication, then labeled a "junkie" by an ER doctor. Lisa Edwards was her name. I don't know that to be the case but my hunch says it is.
@@firefoxblue5803 I would not be surprised. I’ve been repeatedly hospitalized because my pain was not under control.
There are so many other problems that can and do happen if chronic pain is not addressed. They want to give you tramadol. No better than an aspirin. Gabapentin no pain relief with that either. High doses of Nsaids do but i have crohn's disease as well as fibromyalgia. Sometimes i just don't care and take them anyway but i can only do that every once in awhile. Not supposed to at all. Now all these right wing nuts and apparently liberals (thnx Ana & Cenk) too imply everything is in people's heads. With Anna if everyone isn't suffering then it isn't a problem.
I was on this crap for 18 year doctor approved ,its been almost 3 years since I stopped . I wish I could give them a piece of my mind. my body is still messed up from it. but I am a nobody so I don't count
Huge congrats on your 3yrs! I know it's a personal question & you don't have to answer, but after 20yrs on various different Opioids myself, I need advice badly. I was on Heroin, then Subtext, then Methadone & finally Oxy's for the past 8yrs, prescribed after a life saving Operation on my leg caused by my earlier drug use. I finally went through a rapid reduction to kick the sh:te for good recently. Obviously it was pure hell on earth. I'm 9 weeks out but I am still rattling badly at multiple points in the day & my pain is through the roof. I'm waiting to see a pain management team here in the UK, who told me I was suffering from PAWS (“Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome"). I'm told it could take up to 2 years for my body to get back to normal. How long did you suffer withdrawals & severe pain for? Any info I can get from someone who was addicted as long as me is priceless, as there isn't the research available here to draw from. My GP simply has no experience with Oxycodone & so can't really help. It bloody sucks.
Good luck in your life, I'm proud of you from across the pond!!
@@TrebleSum the first year was bad. the pain came back with a vengeance , i was know by my son as oxy -man. i could take them and do anything. witch in the long run only messed me up worse. i have had over 30 surgeries in the last 25 years .now days things arent to bad ,i go and get shots in my back and shoulders every other month. i smoke pot now it helps with the pain and the lack of an appetite. stay strong it get better.
Finally! The Sackler’s need to be in prison for racketeering and murder.
I have been in in chronic pain since 1999 - I was 38 or so when it started. Mother of 3, healthy until I wasn't . Worked until I no longer couldn't. I know so many people of different ages, different economic classes, races, etc., that are also experiencing chronic pain issues. None of us grew up together or have anything else in common that would explain why we have pain issues. I am thankful that I am not, for whatever reason, addicted to pain medication, but it does ease my pain. I take it only when needed, as prescribed, and have never run out of my prescription before I should. I do know that others are not as lucky, if that is the right terminology. Addiction is a horrible disease and I am friends with people who have addicts in their family. It is heartbreaking hearing about their family members and how addiction affects everyone in the family. In some states they actually closed all the pain clinics, so people like me, who aren't addicts, are truly suffering, and those that were addicted to pain pills are now sadly addicted to heroin and now black market fentanyl. Getting rid of the pain pills was really not the best choice. Fentanyl is way worse. Methadone is not helping them get off of fentanyl. Every state needs to legalize marijuana for people over 18. Also we need way more mental health facilities in the US. Addiction is a disease, however you will find many addicts have underlying mental health needs as well so both need to be treated to be successful.
anybody still remembers these pill mills and pain clinics in Ohio and West Virginia and elsewhere!!!Drug distribution companies, some of the largest firms in America among them, were delivering millions of opioid pills a year to Tug Valley!! Drug distributors delivered more than 30m opioid pills just to those three pharmacies, in one of the poorest counties in America!!
Opioid makers such as Purdue Pharma and Johnson & Johnson shaped the medical culture that drove the surge in prescribing of narcotic painkillers that caused today’s drug epidemic!!
Domestic drug trafficker!!!
I live in SC and doctors were handing them out like candy. It ruined my best friend's life. He ended up divorced and one of his two sons committed suicide. His other son ended up a drug addict. The doctor that was prescribing him these pills ended up being arrested for doing this to so many people. This problem went on for way too long and only because it made a lot of people rich including politicians. I'm glad it's all finally getting under control. But never forget that Biden pulled out of Afghan as soon as the bill was passed to put an end to the opioid epidemic. And take a big guess what country was the biggest exporter for opioids. Also keep in mind that Trump didn't pull out of Afghan during his administration when he should have. He even said he would do it and never did.
Oxycotin is a good and needed drug for patients that are terminal and dying.
Everything that has been reported about opiates is not strictly true, it is tainted with a huge amount of opinion. The abuse is horrendous but the biggest victims of all of this are people who need these medications for actual legitimate pain caused by ailments & injuries. As a byproduct of the war waged against the abuse doctors were told by the CDC to lower patients medications but in early 2022 admitted they had made a mistake and should not have told doctors to lower patients medications. It would be nice if someone would take all the facts into account in all this reporting. If not opiates most of these people would have found something else to abuse, why aren't we hearing that using Ozempic for weight loss is abuse? It is and it can have really bad results also when you are screwing around with your glucose levels. You can become very sick even die, do organ damage but hey you're losing weight.
The people abusing these drugs need to have the root causes addressed and they are legion. It is easier to just blame the drugs and why not look how successful the war on drugs has been. The Sacklers (Perdue) and other manufacturers, some sold far more than Perdue, were not angels but the middlemen were way more at fault in the opiate problem and it has long been more of a problem with fentanyl and other garbage sold on the street made in illegal labs. Easier to get & cheaper, cheaper is a major contributor to the problem.
PROFESSIONAL AMERICAN CARTELS!!!
legal and backed by the people they buy in congress. It's crazy how corrupt our system is. It's also asinine that there is any policy on what doctors do when it comes to patients. The government didn't go to medical school...the doctors do. It's much like insurance companies dictating what your doctors can do to treat your issues. If a doctor says there is something that will help someone, how does the government or insurance company come along and say nah, you don't need that. Please note his is not related to pain meds...that shit got out of hand and needed some intervention.
You just couldn't be more off the mark.
I dont find that chronic pain number inaccurate.
Chronic pain is just pain that doesn't go away or comes back.
Thats like most older citizens and anyone with a back injury.
It doesn't have to be debilitating pain to be classified as chronic.
Most people who have done manual labor have injured themselves in same way at some point. Its not unusual to have chronic pain.
I have chronic pain in my back, leg, and finger.
Everyone has pain chronically, almost no one needs opioids. Pain is a part of life
Try that bs again I have CRPS chronic regional pain syndrome, the pain from this condition is constant unending and severe. It is rated higher on the mc Gil pain scale then giving birth unprepared.
There are times I do need that high level of pain relief to do something most people wouldn't even blink at such as fly. Because it increases my pain so much.
@@blessedheart3917 thats another argument entirely.
I don't really understand the Koch Brothers, it's like they see something bad in the world and they just have to support it in some way. It's like they enjoy being hated by others; but in general I've never understood libertarians or their obsession with greed.