Wing Chun: With Sifu Ben Der

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @danmacdonald8829
    @danmacdonald8829 9 днів тому

    I trained there for close to ten years and you will learn the art and sensitivity training. Kenneth Chung would visit with his students and they were much more applied to using Wing Chun as a fighting application. As far as Bruce Lee goes there is a rare book called "Remembering the Master" (which depicts Bruce's closest friends) in which I knew two people, one of which was Bruce's veterinarian in Oakland who trained with him. I'm surprised Sifu Ben never contacted him since they were buddies in high school.

  • @camiloiribarren1450
    @camiloiribarren1450 2 роки тому +14

    Oh this is great! Learning a lot about Wing Chun because we get this sifu’s personal experience. I love CMA, since I started with shaolin wushu before going into Goju Ryu karate and now doing Bajiquan. I get to learn so much from all around

  • @panaxg
    @panaxg Рік тому +4

    Thank you for posting this interview. I am a student of Wing Chun in this lineage.

  • @phantomlord1971
    @phantomlord1971 2 роки тому +4

    Ben Der is great. Never met him or touched hands, but seen videos and heard stories. I have touched hands with Kenneth Cheung several times. Both these guys are great and know thier stuff and are willing to share.. They are the real dealfor some traditional Wing Chun as taught by Leung Sheung👍

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane 2 роки тому +8

    What a great man!! Much respect! My teacher also trained in San Jose. But he was with Kang Duk Won / Kyokushin/ Tracy's Kenpo. The San Jose area was an amazing martial arts community then.

  • @timkittle5418
    @timkittle5418 2 роки тому +9

    You've done it again, Dan! I love Wing Chun. I have incorporated some of its concepts in my own training.

  • @ShaunCKennedyAuthor
    @ShaunCKennedyAuthor 2 роки тому +9

    I love these interviews! I love that you're branching out to more styles, too.

    • @ArtofOneDojo
      @ArtofOneDojo  2 роки тому +4

      Awesome! We've got more coming and I think you guys will like them :)

  • @zetaone2669
    @zetaone2669 2 роки тому +2

    Great interview! My favorite comment was when Sifu Ben Der said to 'research your teacher & observe a class'.

  • @ANMTCUP
    @ANMTCUP 2 роки тому +4

    Another good one Mr. Dan

  • @littlestoneliontraditional9838
    @littlestoneliontraditional9838 2 роки тому +4

    I like this.🔥 I look forward to more. 👍👍

  • @zminvestllc9919
    @zminvestllc9919 Рік тому +2

    GREAT INTERVIEW THANKYOU.

  • @jerostormyfire4360
    @jerostormyfire4360 2 роки тому +3

    I am grateful for this interview. I am grateful for this channel. This made the start of my day awesome. Thank You

  • @everlastingwingchundunedin4776
    @everlastingwingchundunedin4776 2 роки тому +4

    Very interesting I hadn't heard of this guy, thanks for posting 👍

  • @zminvestllc9919
    @zminvestllc9919 Рік тому +2

    SIFU BEN DER IS A LEGEND.

  • @jfearless3420
    @jfearless3420 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much! Great video.

  • @williamw1332
    @williamw1332 2 роки тому +5

    Awesome interview Dan Sensei! Sufi Bed Dur has a really interesting origin! I love the story about his travels from San Francisco to Tampa in 1961. I thought Tampa was a quiet City in 1993! 🤣
    Sufi is in great shape for a young 81, sharp as a razor! Really cool interview! 🙏👍Osu!

  • @bw5020
    @bw5020 2 роки тому +2

    First off, I really appreciate some shine on Wing Chun that isn't hostile or degrading. Dude you fill a much needed Niche in the martial arts community, being acknowledgment of these arts and perspectives from those built the bridge that allows us to enjoy these systems.
    His story on Ip Man brought back some memories. I had an experience were I tried to learn at a Jow Ga school and the teacher convinced me to join.... Then pawned me off on one of his students. He wasn't very personable and I felt strange asking him anything.
    I left and joined a Baguazhang school with a teacher that was far more gregarious and engaging. Different strokes and all that

    • @ArtofOneDojo
      @ArtofOneDojo  2 роки тому

      I really appreciate this, thank you :)

  • @TheBassManimal
    @TheBassManimal 2 роки тому +2

    Great interview, wonderful man!
    I am 4th Kyu Shitō-Ryū Karate student and former student and Yellow sash in William Cheung lineage Wing Chun,
    I find that if students leave their stigma at home and drop the ego, one can really learn so much from any system, if approached with an open mind.

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      william only trained with wong sheung leung for about 1 yr... go figure

  • @elmkarate
    @elmkarate 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video!

  • @michaeldasalyaget7828
    @michaeldasalyaget7828 2 роки тому +4

    Another great bit of information. I have wanted to learn wing chun for a for a while now, but there are no local schools for me right now. However, I love the 5 elements concept, it makes a great amount of sense. I also agree with his statement about his kids' learning, I too do not give my children a choice in learning the martial arts, once they get to black(not jr, but adult) then I will allow them to stop if they want. But they need to at least get the start.

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      you do not say your area.... i spars any , all , hard core , iron arm ,shin, current 15 yrs world tour mma , JJ , champs fcbk leung sheung , kenneth chung , Ben Der combat shaolin wing chun fresno , and shaolin kung fu world fresno Clovis calif

  • @Soldier-of-God.
    @Soldier-of-God. 2 роки тому +2

    Great interview and also a deeper and wonderful insight, into one of America's outstanding, Wing Chun Kung Fu masters. Looking forward to more biographical, video segments such as this, Osu 🇲🇽🇦🇺🥋!

    • @ArtofOneDojo
      @ArtofOneDojo  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Oh yes, we have quite a few more planned and a couple of new ones that have been filmed but not released yet. We're doing a diverse exploration of other arts.

    • @Soldier-of-God.
      @Soldier-of-God. 2 роки тому

      @@ArtofOneDojo awesome eagerly awaiting them Sensei Dan 👍✌🤟 😎.

  • @matthewthompson2844
    @matthewthompson2844 2 роки тому +1

    Great interview! I am curious though, are you only going to do videos on Hong Kong Wing Chun, or are you going to get into other lineages like Red Boat, Black Flag, Foshan, and Thai Wing Chun?

    • @ArtofOneDojo
      @ArtofOneDojo  2 роки тому +1

      The goal is to eventually have more lineages speak. We're been trying a new experiment this year....people seem to love our art history related material, but producing the "History Of" documentaries take a LOT of time. We figured we could cast a wider net and be more inclusive if we started doing interviews with people from different arts. So far people seem to like it and we'll definitely be circling back to more lineages and other versions of arts, just trying to get some diversity in the content out there. We have a lot more coming too :)

    • @matthewthompson2844
      @matthewthompson2844 2 роки тому

      @@ArtofOneDojo Can't wait!!

  • @Shadowman9348
    @Shadowman9348 2 роки тому +3

    Wing chun works beautifully with boxing & taekwondo!👊🥊🥋☯️🇰🇷

    • @clbdyc
      @clbdyc 2 роки тому

      TKD is too stiff. I think jujitsu is better. If the fight ends up on the ground.

    • @Shadowman9348
      @Shadowman9348 2 роки тому +2

      @@clbdyc Ah yes, here we go with the whole "this style is better than that style" - any style can work if you make it work. Every system has it's purpose and uses. ✌️

    • @sergiobatista2272
      @sergiobatista2272 4 місяці тому +1

      Wing Chun is a complete combat system alone and perhaps the best practical, simple, direct, intelligent system of all systems, but...the practitioner must be really good at it and preferably the practitioner must have already practiced many other varied systems before coming to wing Chun. Because wing Chun isn't for beginners, it's an advanced art (like Bagua, tang Lang, xin yi, etc). A beginner can also practice wing Chun (I don't recommend) but in this case he/she must also practice other systems at the same time and test wing Chun against other systems (Leung Ting lineage wing Chun allways tests against other systems and they also don't recommend it for beginners).

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      @@sergiobatista2272 .. i d say has a system , but complete , would mean all , and its been cliped , and simpified , thx the DR .... i spars any , all , hard core , iron arm ,shin, current 15 yrs world tour mma , JJ , champs fcbk leung sheung , kenneth chung , Ben Der combat shaolin wing chun fresno , and shaolin kung fu world fresno Clovis calif

  • @mostafaizaee2611
    @mostafaizaee2611 4 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @juliansimpson3951
    @juliansimpson3951 2 роки тому +1

    Hey could you do a video talking about “Goshin Ryu jiujitsu” Thanks!

  • @kracylatin01
    @kracylatin01 2 роки тому +1

    Great video on Wing Chun : I hope to see some more different Kung Fu systems like Choy Lay Fut , Sil Lum and Hung Gar systems and maybe some systems that kinda resembles Karate systems

    • @ArtofOneDojo
      @ArtofOneDojo  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, we will definitely be reaching out to more Chinese arts. SO far these interviews have been an experiment to see how our viewers respond to them, and so far the response is positive.

  • @niklar
    @niklar 2 роки тому +1

    Real Sifu!

  • @pascodavid
    @pascodavid 2 місяці тому

    YIP Man -Victor Kan - me Sifu David. I enjoyed this video what he says is correct. Been practicing Classic Ving Tsun over 40 years the movements of the system are easy to pick up based on natural movement but you have to condition the mind and body first in structure, movement and then refinement . Yes its boring as a teenager as you do need patience to get into some fighting action but once you get the correct Ving Tsun mind you will enjoy and not worry about fighting just develop within it. Research your teacher well if your serious in WC-VT. If you just want to fight do not wast your time with this system to kick boxing or something else.

    • @davidwilliams6396
      @davidwilliams6396 Місяць тому +1

      Victor Kan gave a demo of his teaching in San Francisco decades ago.

    • @pascodavid
      @pascodavid 23 дні тому

      @@davidwilliams6396 That's good he is in his mid 80's now and still teaching IP Man/s system as it should be. I am a real student of this system and it gets more interesting the deeper you go..and thanks to VK for his personal guidance in my early years.

  • @pascal0868
    @pascal0868 Рік тому +1

    Tried to contact the San Hose group via email and FB. Months later no response. If anyone knows how to contact.

    • @ArtofOneDojo
      @ArtofOneDojo  Рік тому

      Ok, so I reached out to a friend of mine who trains there and he said that this link has the days and times of training, and if you're interested to please show up at one of those times and you'll be able to ask for more info about classes. www.sanjosewingchun.com/

    • @pascal0868
      @pascal0868 Рік тому

      @@ArtofOneDojo very kind of you to respond. As I would be flying in from overseas ((not just for wing chum) I thought I better reach out ahead of time rather than turn up randomly. Was hoping for a private class. I tried the email and Facebook no responses. Thanks again.

    • @ArtofOneDojo
      @ArtofOneDojo  Рік тому +1

      @@pascal0868 It's a pretty close and friendly group. Showing up to a class might be good to at least observe and I'm sure you could talk to them about arranging any private lessons. I'm not sure why you aren't getting a reply through online attempts so I apologize for that.

    • @ISZAudio
      @ISZAudio Рік тому

      ​@@pascal0868I'm a student of Ben's. It really is just a case of showing up. The Facebook and emails are unfortunately pretty much unmonitored, I'm not sure which of my sihing maintains them.
      Your best bet is to just show up during a class time. Sifu doesn't really do private lessons with new students, it took a few years before I could ask for them.

  • @ceemee1430
    @ceemee1430 3 місяці тому

    My Sifus Sifu!

  • @realherbalism1017
    @realherbalism1017 2 роки тому +6

    While I agree with much of what Mr. Der says, respectfully, wing Chun has both hook punches & uppercuts & they are found in Chum Kiu. Every Ip Man lineage has those movements. Wing Chun movements are not techniques, they are concepts that can be turned into techniques. Again I recommend watching Greenville Martial Arts Academy here on UA-cam & view the breakdown of the sil lim tao & chum kiu forms.
    Each concept has multiple applications & cannot be said to represent only this or only that.

    • @ISZAudio
      @ISZAudio 2 роки тому +4

      We actually don't have those movements in Chum Kiu, those movements can be interpreted in different ways in different lineages and it's well known Yip Man changed things over time. Leung Sheung lineage training reflects the way Yip Man taught in the late 40s and early 50s. What you call an uppercut is not a strike for us at all, the movement is done differently and has a different purpose.
      I've heard people say one movement in Biu Ji is a hook (though we'd also disagree with that) but not in Chum Kiu; which movement are you referring to there?

    • @realherbalism1017
      @realherbalism1017 2 роки тому +2

      @@ISZAudio I agree, as I stated, the moves are concepts of attack & defense not techniques. As an example, tan sao is representative of an inside hand that the opponent's arm is on top of. By shooting the tan sao hand to the shoulder, it spreads out the attacker's force which is exactly why tan sao is called "spreading hand". However, tan sao does not have to look exactly like the prototypical palm up move, it can be palm down for example. As long as it fulfills the requirements of "spreading", is elbow down, & is the inside hand, the concept is tan sao.
      The hook punch in wing chun is the double lan sao in chum kiu with the waist turn. Again, it's not JUST a hook punch, it's a concept that techniques can be derived from. It can be a back elbow, it can be a pull, it can be a hook punch, a throw or several other things. The concept is teaching you to use waist power when using hand techniques. It's actually quite brilliant. The uppercut is in the middle section of chum kiu where the bong sao is repeated three times. Again, concepts, not techniques, there's a lot more stuff in those forms that people realize. There is stuff for chin na & shuai jiao as well. All complete Chinese martial arts have 4 areas of study: Ti (kicking), Kuen (hand techniques), Na (joint locks, pressure point attacks, muscle & tendon ripping, etc.) & wrestling ( I forget the Chinese term). People vastly misunderstand & misapply Chinese martial arts because they were almost completely wiped out several times by the various factions that controlled China. Any country that has constant warfare for thousands of years is going to develop very scientific & lethal ways to win.

    • @ISZAudio
      @ISZAudio 2 роки тому +1

      @@realherbalism1017 fair enough! I would say the uppercut there is more surface level, but the chin na application is what you get when you deep dive. As for the hook, I feel like throwing hooks kind of goes against the structural core of wing chun, but the turning laan sau is definitely the prototypical paai zhaang (slicing elbow) so I agree with your interpretation of rotational movement; that said, the rotation should come from the knee not the waist. Remember, body and horse together as one. The knee drives that turn, not the waist, which is what sets our rotational force apart from boxing and the like.

    • @ceemee1430
      @ceemee1430 3 місяці тому

      Not until people started blending in other styles from the 70’s on to make the system take longer. And use “ theories”
      It’s always been a step in and pinch style.

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      i accept your challenge ,yes , i spars any , all , hard core , iron arm ,shin, current 15 yrs world tour mma , JJ , champs fcbk leung sheung , kenneth chung , Ben Der combat shaolin wing chun fresno , and shaolin kung fu world fresno Clovis calif

  • @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840
    @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840 2 роки тому +1

    thank you, Sensei Daniel!!🙏🏽🙏🏽 I love chinese martial arts they are deep and romantic. Seeing a class mate of Bruce Lee is even more exciting and beautiful to see.

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 2 роки тому +1

    Say hi to Francis for me

  • @Zack1440
    @Zack1440 2 роки тому +2

    👍🏽

  • @jcmultimedia4072
    @jcmultimedia4072 23 дні тому

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @raywest7222
    @raywest7222 2 роки тому +3

    The words "sometimes divided" are a major understatement. I've been studying wing chun on and off for 15 years. And we can't even agree on the NAME of the martial art. Wing chun is toxic

    • @darthwolfX2
      @darthwolfX2 2 роки тому

      Ive only expiered that online never in real life.

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      Chinese , riddles , poems , parables , like the bible , got 75 versions ...find a mentor........................

    • @davidwilliams6396
      @davidwilliams6396 Місяць тому

      Instructors change the name to be able to copyright their version. Leung Ting and William Cheung made that popular. Many of the former WT instructors in the EU and UK made new names to copyright their system and used Leung Ting's and EWTO's franchise model.

  • @christophervelez1561
    @christophervelez1561 2 роки тому +1

    Yooooo first!

  • @cprpremiumhandymanservices3735
    @cprpremiumhandymanservices3735 23 дні тому

    Awesome..he never menchine Grand master William Chung

  • @raulmendozahernandez3866
    @raulmendozahernandez3866 4 місяці тому

    11/8/24 ayudame dios mio a conbertirme ninja berdadera etc asi sea y asi sera amen amen ..

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      .... one must do ... or do not....

    • @davidwilliams6396
      @davidwilliams6396 Місяць тому

      Wing Chun is not ninjutsu, that is a Japanese style. Wing Chun is from China.

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 2 роки тому

    🙂

  • @DxModel219
    @DxModel219 4 місяці тому

    Wing Chun in the bay area isn’t how it used to be. We used to have WC competition in the bay area every year in SF but that was 30 years ago. Ben and Ken was alot younger and alot of active schools in the area including Hoover Chan. The younger generation aren’t as serious anymore.

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      yes , i spars any all , hard core , iron arm ,shin, current 15 yrs world tour mma , JJ , champs fcbk leung sheung , kenneth chung , combat shaolin wing chun fresno , and shaolin kung fu world fresno Clovis calif ....

  • @JovenGalleno
    @JovenGalleno 2 роки тому +1

    Ben Der, Dan Dat.

  • @1stMartialSageUnderHeaven
    @1stMartialSageUnderHeaven 7 місяців тому

    Good interview. Full respect to you and the Sifu. Unfortunately the Sifu is obviously quite up in years and due to this he made many mistakes when explaining his art, which was very sad to see. I’m sure if you had interviewed him ten years ago he would have explained the system very differently. If you want good knowledge and insight and information on Wing Chun and Chinese Systems you should get in touch with your fellow countrymen Alex Rikter aka KFG The Kung Fu Genius. His Podcast is quite informative and his information is usually spot on. Your Channel is also very good and I find you too usually get things correct. Respect, Bless 🙏🏼

    • @ISZAudio
      @ISZAudio 7 місяців тому

      Pretty sure Alex would tell you not to disrespect someone who's been doing the art longer than any of us have been alive. Leung Sheung lineage approach is different than Leung Ting lineage approach. It doesn't mean either is wrong.

    • @1stMartialSageUnderHeaven
      @1stMartialSageUnderHeaven 7 місяців тому

      @@ISZAudio I don’t follow either of them lineages and I wasn’t disrespecting anyone. The only reason I suggested Alex is because he is pretty good with WCK info. Unfortunately the elderly Sifu made some mistakes when explaining his art and his age was showing big time. Anyone with good WCK knowledge would say the same. Sorry if I touched a nerve

    • @ISZAudio
      @ISZAudio 7 місяців тому

      @@1stMartialSageUnderHeaven what mistakes exactly? Sounds pretty solid theory wise to me.

    • @1stMartialSageUnderHeaven
      @1stMartialSageUnderHeaven 7 місяців тому

      @@ISZAudio I really can’t be bothered to explain. Go study WCK and combat and discover for yourself

    • @ISZAudio
      @ISZAudio 7 місяців тому

      @@1stMartialSageUnderHeaven been studying for quite some time. You make an explicit claim insulting someone who's been doing this since 1958, and then "can't be bothered" to explain? More like don't know anything.

  • @watchingfromtheshadows1338
    @watchingfromtheshadows1338 2 роки тому +1

    Wing-Chun is to clean for true combat situations. It has only Hypothesis and laboratory type environments. The only way it works.

    • @pked9
      @pked9 2 місяці тому

      i accept your challenge ,yes , i spars any , all , hard core , iron arm ,shin, current 15 yrs world tour mma , JJ , champs fcbk leung sheung , kenneth chung , Ben Der combat shaolin wing chun fresno , and shaolin kung fu world fresno Clovis calif ....