これだけの空母同士の戦いをしたのは日本とアメリカだけ。私は日本人として、両国の空母艦載機の搭乗員の勇気にただただ驚くばかり。こんな対空砲の中、空母に飛び込んでいく搭乗員の勇気は凄まじい。残念なのはその勇気がお互いの殺し合いに使われた事だ。 Only Japan and the United States have fought such a battle between aircraft carriers. As a Japanese, I was amazed at the courage of the carrier-based aircraft crew in either country. The courage of the crew to jump into such a fierce anti-aircraft carrier is tremendous. Unfortunately, that courage was used to kill each other.
I never thought about it in the way you say. It is correct. Only USA vs Japan for carrier battles. Amazing observation. The way the tracers appear in the sky, how did anyone live over 2 minutes? Seems impossible.
Despite the little Hollywood exaggerations, (bomb dropped so close on deck, it would've caught the plane in it's backsplash, & excessive flak like upward snow) it was a superb movie...
And yet, as cinematically stunning and intense as these battle scenes are depicted, they can never fully illustrate that which our pilots actually experienced and overcame.
@@colinwhyte1526 The problem with your statement is that you're judging a movie that would require numerous aircraft that no longer exist to pull it off in a 'fully realistic' fashion. They cannot do the practical effects of slightly older movies because they simply do not have the actual real life planes to pull it off in, and to try and use models would look even more fake then CGI would. Barring that...this movie has done a far better job in portraying just what kind of hell these pilots went through trying to get to the targets. Flying through a hailstorm of bullets and flak that is exploding all around you as planes around you burst into flames or are ripped apart, falling from the sky like so many dead leaves, all while you're praying that you don't get hit. Every other movie shows the flak of feels like a single ship trying to hit an airplane and never truly show what it'd be like when an entire fleet is trying to swat you out of the sky. This movie captured that, and did so with the best that they had available to them to do it.
Of course not, the feeling of seeing friendly planes being shot down, the fear of being hit, the sensations of the pullout which caused some to lose vision temporarily, are things we as spectators can never experience.
@@TechLeafRanger I mean I was a little biased by Sabaton history channel, but as I was watching the movie I was really positively surprised of how good they actually captured historical facts that were told by real historians. Also, when they were doing the bomber runs, there was just one thought constanty running through my mind: how the hell did real american pilots manage to go through all that flak cannon fire. I mean, it's insane that they managed to pull it off. And still, here we are today, living our lives better because of those brave pilots of ww2 who went to battle and maintained the supremacy in the skies of Europe, Pacific and North Africa.
Best thing about the movie was that bombs, torpedoes and lots of other kind of ammo actually missed their targets. In Pearl Harbor it was ridiculous how much was hit at every single try.
Difference was at pearl the ships were in the harbor stationary that's why so many hit the targets ..while the Japanese carriers at midway were able to maneuver
@@jimrobinson684 In the archive material of that attack, you see a lot of chaotic firing from both sides. "Pearl" made it look like it was a precise attack, but historically it was otherwise. Even with docked ships.
koekoek the Japanese Navy had been practicing and rehearsing their attack on Pearl Harbor for almost 6 months Bedford they attacked. I believe they rehearsed the attack in Yokohama bay and laid out ships in the harbor as they would in pearl.
I only have used three words to say *Rest in Peace* to those sailor's that lost their lives in the battle of *MIDWAY* , they serve their nation to the fullest without a return. *SALUTE* .
@@viet_cong_momiji2324 When they first discover the Kido Butai they show a top down view and you can clearly see 3 Yamato class battleships. They are very distinct. Said clip isn't in this video, but they are there. It is definitely a nitpick but they stand out like a sore thumb if you know what to look for. There where only 2 Yamato class, the Yamato and Musashi, and I don't think the latter was sea worthy yet but you can see earlier in the movie the Yamato is with Yamamoto further back.
For an old timer, i like the 70’s midway...same story, different story teller kinda made the difference, didn’t feel anything now whenever a plane got shot down...either sides !
I agree 100%. Saw the original when i was a kid, and a couple times after. This seemed rushed and over sensationalized imo. Just didn't find it all that great.
I thought there was too much romance in the 70’s one. War movies don’t need romances stuck in for no reason. I was lucky enough to be able to see it in ‘Sensurround’ - the whole theater shook! The explosions were awesome! I also saw Battlestar Galactica the same way.
The old actors in the 1970's movie were better too. The new movie was okay, but the writing could have been more focused, and the editing better. There was zero attention paid to the larger story of the scouting, and how the battle came together. Maybe a lot of that footage was filmed, but cut - if that is the case then maybe a better film will get released later.
Except for the dive bombers attacking the carriers. The Japanese were completely caught off guard and were actually reloading aircraft on the flight line when they attacked. They didn't put up that much fire. And dive bombers like the dauntless dropped their bombs over a 1,000 feet up, not scraping the carrier deck. If that happened, the planes would have been destroyed too.
@@willthorson4543 Do you fly? I have for the USAF and a 1000 feet isn't much to play with even in those old birds. Yes pulling out of a dive like that at a 1000 feet will put you at water level.
@@Satchel_Charge2 I've always read that the Dive-bombing technique used by the USN in WWII was to pull out between 2000 and 1500 feet. And before you ask, no I haven't flown. although I may actually be able to in a pinch if required. (Might not be pretty, but it would be accomplished)
It’s classic Roland Emmerich CGI, but despite his lack of substance in other projects, the CG was one of many very deep elements in this movie, especially in the film’s “direct-to-history” plot. Honestly, despite calling some of his previous work “guilty pleasures,” like 2012, this movie (along with Independence Day) are the only two I have sincere respect for. Like if this guy put this level of effort into a Battle Off Samar movie and focused heavily on the battle itself, I’d let him be my child’s godfather. Yet, he keeps pumping out the bullshit like Moonfall…
Thank you F ZERO for showing me just how terrible this movie was. I had skipped it because I saw inaccuracies in the previews and now seeing even more inaccuracies despite the trumpeted "historical accuracy". This wasn't a movie, it was a video game. Granted, you are not going to find WW2 ships laying about nowadays, but there are over 300 WW2 aircraft today that is airworthy. This movie didn't even try. Yes, this movie paved a path from Pearl Harbor to Midway, but if you are going to call a movie Midway, how about showing important aspects? 1) The Tokyo raid by Doolittle and his B-25 bombers did set the stage for the battle but it finally gave Yamamoto the impetus to push for an attack on Midway. 2) Strategy sessions by the Japanese included wargaming a decoy attack on Alaskan bases to draw off American carriers. 3) The code breakers figuring out what the Japanese were up to. 4) The USS Yorktown was badly damaged in the battle of the coral sea and there was an incredible effort to make her seaworthy in just 3 days-just in time for the midway battle. 5) The attack on the Alaskan bases. 6) The continuous patrols by American PBY's with the three incomplete spottings and the one well done spotting report. 7) Yes, Midway had an air wing that did attack the japanese fleet, but this movie got the planes ALL WRONG. 8) The japanese attack on Midway-obsolete American fighter planes bravely tried to defend the island and many of them were shot down. 9) The tit for tat air attacks between American and Japanese carriers and the strategy-even though both navies were groping in the dark. Thanks again F ZERO.
@@Gio81637 Rather than reply to your insult with an insult I will say this: Growing old is not for the weak. With age you should aquire wisdom and in wisdom you should want the correct telling of an incident. Suppose someone was telling the story that you spent your high school years with your finger up your nose, reeking of B.O., and begging girls who wanted nothing to do with you to go out with you? You know different. But suppose this story was printed on Facebook and was liked 100k time? You would want your name cleared, unless you actually are like this. Since you took a cowardly cheap shot at me without stating evidence to the contrary, what am I to presume?
@Craig My measuring stick is the war movies of the 1960's and 70's. Granted, there were some stinkers back then, but also great ones like Sink the Bismarck, The Longest Day and Battle of Britain.
According to Dickingson's account in his article - with the collaboration of Boyden Sparkes - "the target was utterly satisfying", he made an error and opened the landing flaps. Because of that his plane was slowed down and he saw instead of doing 280knots, he was doing only 95.
That may have been where they pull it from. They know that they need to entertain the audience with good visuals. Basically all films are based on others so Crossover is quite common. I’ve seen some video game acting better than some movies… Command and conquer for example although Extremely bad compared to a box office movie… I’ve seen some real blenders in the box office
Damn fucking right… I’m sick of all these people complaining about “not realistic “… I don’t give a fuck about that shit. For example when you pick out a girlfriend do you want the fantasy for the Obees reality… Fat or slim make your choice (Saw)
Highlightedreply, many, many years ago my father, a ww2 vet himself worked with a Navy Wildcat pilot who fought at the Battle of Midway. I honestly do not know his name as i was small and my dad has since passed. My understanding is that the wildcat fighters, especially with Lt. Cmdr Jimmy Thatch's group did fight and provide cover for the dive bombers.
@@hollywood1793 Fighting 3, the wildcats also attached themselves to protect 17 SBDs as well as the TBDs, as they attacked the first enemy force on June 4th. Most of the TBD groups went in without substantial fighter escort and were slaughtered.
well this movie was from the bomber perspective, but it should also be noted that due to thatchers tactics, later called hte thatch weave, this was the first time the zero's *lost* in a dogfight. the previous waves before thatch combined totaled less than a dozen fighters downed, mostly by bomber gunners. Thatches work did more than 20 in a single wave.
Thatch's weave action drew a lot of IJN CAP fighters away from their main job and gave an opening for VB6 and VT6 to hit something. All the sacrifices before that did run out the clock on Nagumo preventing him from launching counterpunches . . . very expensive win for us.
@@tibork3845 N1K2J, Ki100 and Ki84 all more capable in the fast evolving environment only if you're raining good replacement pilots for them in numbers . . . It ain't necessarily always the bike it's more the "motor" on the pedals if you want to keep pace.
@@icewaterslim7260 Yeah but with the 'white zero' we were referring to the A6Ms, those were more of the early models. The KI84s were far more advanced, I flew both planes for 3 years in the game 'Warbirds' years ago. A6M maneuvered well but was under gunned and slow comparatively to the KI84. KI84 has heavier guns and it climbs like few other planes did in WWII yet still maneuvering well. Of course like most Japanese planes it also lacked the strong armor plates so you had to watch your 6 all the time and stay out of any bullets. ... Miss those days of flying them.
@@tibork3845 Yeah if I can find the time, I want to get into War Thunder with a Ki100 and see how many people will follow me in a vertical. I'd want to keep some altitude in that one anyway. it's the age of the information super-highway though and the uninformed might be rare on the planet, lol. I gotta stay ahead of those rangy 50 cal I know and get up close and personal with the Type 99 20 mm that's also still used in the Kawasaki. Surviving IJN Ace Honda Minoru once said in an interview that the type 99 round "dropped like a stream of piss." lmao. He claimed to be one of the poorer shots so he'd get within 50 meters to pull the trigger. He must've swung out of that debris path quickly after that. Maybe even skidding through his shot to the side but he didn't say. He did mention skidding to evade being shot though. . The Kawasaki Ki100 was a radial retrofit Ki61 "Tony" which was much improved in performance. Most of our pilots would probably have miss identified it as it didn't even have a code name assigned to it. Surviving Army Ace Major Yohei HInoki flew one for the 2nd Daitai, 111th Sentai, during the final month of the war, as an instructor after having his leg shot off in an Oscar by a P51. He got most of his kills in a Ki43 Oscar which he described as a "disaster". Maybe some in a Ki27 Nate over Burma. He claimed a P51 kill while flying a Ki100 with his class one day which he thought might've been Captain John Benbow of 457th Squadron, 505th Group who was MIA. I personally thought, from the sound of all accounts, it more likely to be one of the shot up P51s from the 21st or 506th FG that returned to base as neither HInoki or his students had any opportunity to follow it for a confirmation. Unconfirmed over claims during a frenetic air battle were very common on both sides.
My grandpa fought with the japanese because he loved their culture. For my grandpa Hirohito was a God on earth. If my grandpa had had much money he could have given all to The Emperor.
Tbh when I originally went to see this I was only exited about the naval scenes cause I’m a huge fan of naval history. Didn’t do so good with the historical accuracy part but it won me over with the story and action scenes
The military truth about Midway is this: Every action taken by the Japanese Navy before Midway must be viewed as a victory and every action taken by the U.S. Navy after Midway, must be construed as a victory.
Some people debate which was the actual turning point of the Pacific War, Midway or Guadalcanal. The Truth is that after Midway the Japanese were never again on the offensive in the Pacific. The Battles in the Solomons were strictly defensive from the Japanese viewpoint. Note however I said in the Pacific, the CBI Theater they tried several times to close off the land link with China from India.
This has many technical inaccuracies. The SBD was nearly impossible to shoot down once in a dive. It out dived everything. Also, when the SBD was in an attack stance, its to .50 cal machine guns were raking its target hence killing many on deck and on the bridges. Also, during Midway, the American carriers launched Wildcats that provided some fighter cover. By the end, the Americans lost one carrier while the Japanese lost all four along with several over heavy ships.
Some who have flown combat missions, say that as you close on the target, and your vision narrows, that there is a slow motion effect, that you note the AA rounds and trace fire coming by you, pieces flying off the planes being hit, and even movement on the decks when you are close enough. I like the pilot's eye sort of viewpoint. I was concerned at first since the video seemed to concentrate on the Pearl Harbor battle which the USA certainly did lose. It was typical of WWII attacks by airplanes that were not Dive bombers, when the Japanese fleet at speed in the ocean was able to avoid damage from the land-based bombers that were flown from Midway. I don't recall any similar attacks on warships that were successful during WWII. The carnage the U.S. Torpedo squadrons suffered was realistic and brutal, but it was part of war. The U.S. Navy had not yet learned the value of coordinated attacks with fighter protection, from the squadrons of different carriers. Fortunately for the U.S., the IJN was focused on highly coordinated mass attacks with carrier groups, but did not hold back one carriers deck for supporting Combat Air Patrol flights for an extended period of time, especially when attack sorties were returning to their home ships, low on fuel, tired and maybe damaged.
Turning point in the Pacific war was when the US Navy started building 27 aircraft carriers, hundreds of cruisers, destroyers, and submarines, and God knows how many aircraft, The Japanese were buried by U.S industry.
the main complaint is " It's not realistic " ... and to those people I say: if you want to complain about that it's going to be a very boring movie. Cinema is about entertainment realistic or not. when you choose a girlfriend... do you want the fantasy slim sexy... or the realistic obese average?
@HopeToTheWEAK None of that would have happened. Japan couldn't have captured Hawaii even if they had won at Midway. Plus, they had no interest in Hawaii. Or America.
Shipboard anti-aircraft guns were almost completely ineffective - when the Yamato was sunk, it and its 9 escort ships were all bristling with anti-aircraft guns. Four-hundred American planes attacked, sinking the Yamato and 5 other ships, for the loss of only 10 planes. In the battle of Midway, almost all the American planes shot down were from Japanese planes. Also, US dive bombers didn't drop 10,000 napalm bombs, not every shot fired was a tracer round, etc.
The more you know : they got the B-26 attack wrong. They didn't bombed from high altitude, it was actually twelve USAAF B-17. They were flying so high that they weren't bothered by the AA. However, it gave enough time to the Japanese to anticipate and dodge the bombs. The B-26 (four of them) attacked at low attitude with six TBF Avengers. Two B-26 were shot down during their torpedo run. One of them attempted to ram Akagi, but ultimately failed. Another one, _Suzie Q_ straffed Akagi, shooting two crewmembers. _Suzie Q_ and the remaining B-26 managed to return to Midway, depsite suffering catastrophic damages.
The more I watch movies that are released in the last decade, the more i love old movies. Completely CGI effects. Looks like Battlefield III videogame. Pearl Harbor (2001) movie is also a war movie with many explosions and destructions, but these effects are practical and looks much more realistic than CGI effects of Midway (2019) movie. I don't want to waste my time, ears and eyes watching this movie. Even CGI beats this. But this is a videogame. Or may be CGI effects used by free and open-source piece of software like Blender, i think. :) :) :) .
What is sad is that Hollywood *could* do an absolutely fantastic job today if they would use the technology correctly, tighten up the writing, and hire directors that actually spent a little time studying the history...
War sells very well… That’s why every major movie has one. If you’re not familiar there is a famous speech from a military colonel I believe. He clearly states that “ war is a racket “ And wrote a book with that title
yes, it is scary how the Japanese closed the axis side of the Nazis, putting the Americans directly next to the allies and consequently Brazil together to free the part of Europe
@@RAZR_Channel Muchas gracias por el video y la correccion🐱🐱me emocione pues soñaba con una version asi de esta que es una de las batallas aeronavales mas particulares en la historia militar de la humanidad y en la pelicula se narran los hechos en una forma bastante fidedigna, con herramientas cinematograficas modernas. He leido mucho acerca de la SGM y a mi Felino juicio esta es una gran pelicula que merecia triunfar como 1917. Ni hablar por ahora no fue apreciada como debiera🐱🐱🐱 Gracias por los videos🐱🐱🐱
Thank you, for this great video upload! I have the *"Birds of Steel"* program by *Konami* for the Sony PlayStation 3. I haven't run the program in almost five years. (I literally *wore out TWO PS3 Consoles,* trying to 'finish', certain PS3 programs! *"Birds of Steel",* among them!) Watching your video, just made me determined to *buy myself some more PS3 Consoles,* so I can *finally FINISH the BLASTED PROGRAM!* )
@@ellenbradley1880 Exactly! For a second i through it was the Trailer for a Midway videogame like Red Alert CGI+Real actors cinematic. Something as Battlestations Midway remake. I feel bad for say this but... The Hated Bay's Pearl Harbor have effect looks more real in 2001 that a movie released in 2019.
Joseph Astier it’s true that a B-26 did fly over the island of a Japanese carrier, but the bombers are portrayed incorrectly. They r actually torpedo bombers, and the guy only flew over the carrier after making a pass, not in a kamikaze type attack
I was stationed on Midway Island in 1960. I was in the Navy and flew out of Midway on an airborne early warning patrol plane. There was nothing there except gooney birds and sand. We bathed in salt water and washed our uniforms in salt water. The barracks were there when Japan attacked Midway Island and had holes in the steel I-beams from the armor piercing ammunition used by the Japanese.
Regardless of how much Hollywood may have embellished it, the pilots were brave and daring men who gave their all to prevent an invasion of our western coast and defeat Japanese agression.
Yeah it’s kind of sad that we don’t get to see some credit for the guys that tried but didn’t make it. Only some liveto tell their tails… While the others gave quite literally everything… But hey that just means their wives weren’t back on the market
Imagine a diving run with all those bullets coming up at you! I heard a speech by a old veteran who dive bombed the Japanese ships that day and one of his bombs was one that hit the ship which was hit three times by dive bombers . His bomb was one of the three hits. I talked with him a bit afterwards. He was a smallish unassuming person. The Japanese military taught their people insanity. The sowed at Pearl Harbor and then they reaped at Midway and afterwards.
The SBD bombers released their bombs from a 70 degree dive at 3000 ft typically but as low as 1500 ft. They would pull out at 500 ft., I guess that wasn't dramatic enough for the movie. There were 4 B-26 bombers attacking the Japanese fleet with torpedoes. They did not perform level bombing attacks as shown in the movie. B-17s attacked from high altitude but the maneuvering ships were not hit, but no B-17 was hit either. 2 of the 4 B-26 bombers failed to return to Midway and the 2 that did were badly damaged, over 500 bullet holes were counted in one of them. One of the 2 surviving B-26 bombers flew down the deck of one of the aircraft carriers with the bombardier strafing the ship as they barrelled down the deck (wounding two Japaneses gunners and temporarily knocking out an AA turret). This could have been a dramatic bit for the movie but was not included. One B-26 nearly hit the conning tower of one of the carriers as shown in the movie before it crashed into the sea. No one knows what happened to the 4th B-26. For the torpedo to be effective the bombers had to slow to about 120 mph and release at about 100 feet, making the bombers easy targets for ship gunners and Zero fighters. Of 47 SBD Navy dive bombers, 18 were lost, some running out of fuel and having to ditch. 39 Navy torpedo bombers were lost.
Very Interesting... thank you for taking the time to make such a detailed post. History movies are Hard Sell in Hollywood... it's rare that they even make it to the big screen.
Exactly... a few commenters have been all pissed off and shit about the CGI saying that it's " Not Realistic ".... fuck that shit! it was a damn good watch. People want to be entertained.. and Midway delivered on that. if you want realistic go to a museum....
It still amazes me every time I see a clip of the War of the Pacific. How can a tiny country keep a giant at bay for 5 years? What if Japan was the size of Russia? There are countries who will never surrender as in South America where the words Surrender and Deterrence don’t exist in their vocabulary, not even two nukes will make them surrender. This war was like a fight of 10 against 1. I presume Fifty Japans can fit the U.S.
@@yolamontalvan9502 what the hell are you babbling on about. And all I can say about your south America commenting is,the Falklands. Also this movie is shockingly shite
There is something wrong when scenes shot in the thirties look less fake than this. The creators sure get carried away with themselves. I was about to get the new Midway but this changed my mind.
That's the Dolittle raid also known as the Tokyo Raid, was an air raid on 18 April 1942 by the United States on the Japanese capital Tokyoand other places on Honshu during World War II. It was the first air operation to strike the Japanese archipelago. It demonstrated that the Japanese mainland was vulnerable to American air attack, served as retaliation for the attack on Pearl Harbor, and provided an important boost to American morale. The raid was planned, led by, and named after Lieutenant Colonel James Doolittle, later General of the United States Air Force
@@achrafhamdani884 The carreir is moving into the wind at 30+ knots, so with a 5-10 mph breeze the B-25 is moving at about 40+mph before it even starts to take off.
@@RAZR_Channel Question, in regard to your comments on another thread, this movie seems historically accurate, other than some dramatised moments with the characters, so why does everyone put this movie down so much?
I believe the actual anti-aircraft fire from the Japanese ships was not so nearly intense as depicted here. Most of the dive bombers are believed to have arrived and attacked relatively unmolested,, The torpedo bomber had just finished their disastrous runs and been annihilated by the Zeroes, but left no protection above. The Japanese "Kate" torpedo bombers were the most deaaly weapon of the Japanese air, so naturally the one they originally feared most. Ironically they barely got close enough to even launch.
The Kate wasn't a significant improvement compared to the Devastator. The one thing it had in it's favor was a torpedo that could be air launched at a higher altitude and faster speed. But when met with fighter opposition (CAP) they too were shot down in great numbers.
In history, when the bombers arrived targets, the fighters were lost. So that's why the torpedo bombers were easily vanished by Zero because they had no protection.
Love the movie but it has two problems...One) USN fighters are nearly not shown at all in the movie (and the Wildcats, led by people like Butch O hare) were pretty lethal at Midway (both Marine and USN). and the Dauntless was a hell f a dive bomber and with a pair of .50's in the nose there were FOUR aces in Dauntlesses! An SBD would normally run, but a well driven dauntless would make a mess out of Japanese formations.
Yeah… There was so much going on at that time and so many details that there’s no way they could get the movie done if they tried to cover everything... To get the script sold to the board members they had to cut corners… Come in under budget… And hopefully have a good turn out. Unfortunately I think marketing really let them down on this one because there’s a large segment of the audience that just wants to be entertained myself included. I don’t know much about history except what I see on like history channel which is always biased. Worldwide I believe the movie came in just Enough to make a profit. Many people have complained about the CGI aspect and the overdone graphics but that’s what it takes to sell movie these days. The younger generations don’t give a damn about history. And frankly neither do I. I want to be entertained when I sit in that seat… I mean no disrespect but that’s the bottom line for many people
@@RAZR_Channel Read some famous fiction (ANY James Bond (Ian Flemming) book or Tom Clancy) and just see what ended up on the screen (pretty sad really, not bad...but not the books by a moon shot), but to make Red Storm Rising would cost half a BILLION dollars to make! And most Bond movies have just the names in common with the stories (view to a kill was a 36 page short story).
@@RAZR_Channel dive bombing is not an easy task though, too fast you will become an improvised kamikaze plane, too slow you will be roasted by AA guns, i used to use this tactic in war thunder, scary and risky as hell but i like it, imagine a b-17 came out of nowhere and dive bombing your cruiser but somehow still alive...
Was the Japanese AA really that thick? I’ve read their point defenses were actually pretty weak, at least compared to US’s. Their best defense appeared to be Zero interceptors. But don’t misunderstand me, even if AA was minimal all those guys in the attack planes were very brave.
Yeah… And these aircraft was pretty crude… Those pilots that did this really had some nerve. I think the copilot/tailgunner had it even worse because he has no control over the situation. If they’re in a dive in the pilot gets shot he’s done there’s nothing he can control except bail out and that would probably be in enemy waters
the pilots barely had time to pull up from the dive, some passing out in the process due to pulling extra g's, the german manufactured stuka had this problem, their fix was an automatic pulling device, im getting off track here, what you see here is historically correct
これだけの空母同士の戦いをしたのは日本とアメリカだけ。私は日本人として、両国の空母艦載機の搭乗員の勇気にただただ驚くばかり。こんな対空砲の中、空母に飛び込んでいく搭乗員の勇気は凄まじい。残念なのはその勇気がお互いの殺し合いに使われた事だ。
Only Japan and the United States have fought such a battle between aircraft carriers.
As a Japanese, I was amazed at the courage of the carrier-based aircraft crew in either country.
The courage of the crew to jump into such a fierce anti-aircraft carrier is tremendous.
Unfortunately, that courage was used to kill each other.
I never thought about it in the way you say. It is correct.
Only USA vs Japan for carrier battles. Amazing observation.
The way the tracers appear in the sky, how did anyone live over 2 minutes? Seems impossible.
The dive bomb attack scenes with the AA coming up....total heroism. Great stuff !!
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It's really hard sometimes to decide whether this a movie or a CGI video, but hats off to the FX crew. I appreciate all the work that went into it.
Yes. I am still confused
I frequently think of movies as very long CGI videos, or alternatively think of CGI videos as very short movies.
What's wrong with that? A lot of movies use CGI in this age. Why question something that was not a problem at all?
Despite the little Hollywood exaggerations, (bomb dropped so close on deck, it would've caught the plane in it's backsplash, & excessive flak like upward snow) it was a superb movie...
Well actually the bomb dropping close to the deck did happen in real life
@@DustinSmith796 but the plane was way too close to the explosion
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And yet, as cinematically stunning and intense as these battle scenes are depicted,
they can never fully illustrate that which our pilots actually experienced and overcame.
Saving Private Ryan, Fury Battle of Britain all had realistic scenes this is just comic book by comparison.
@@colinwhyte1526 The problem with your statement is that you're judging a movie that would require numerous aircraft that no longer exist to pull it off in a 'fully realistic' fashion. They cannot do the practical effects of slightly older movies because they simply do not have the actual real life planes to pull it off in, and to try and use models would look even more fake then CGI would.
Barring that...this movie has done a far better job in portraying just what kind of hell these pilots went through trying to get to the targets. Flying through a hailstorm of bullets and flak that is exploding all around you as planes around you burst into flames or are ripped apart, falling from the sky like so many dead leaves, all while you're praying that you don't get hit. Every other movie shows the flak of feels like a single ship trying to hit an airplane and never truly show what it'd be like when an entire fleet is trying to swat you out of the sky. This movie captured that, and did so with the best that they had available to them to do it.
Of course not, the feeling of seeing friendly planes being shot down, the fear of being hit, the sensations of the pullout which caused some to lose vision temporarily, are things we as spectators can never experience.
Americanada!
@@TechLeafRanger I mean I was a little biased by Sabaton history channel, but as I was watching the movie I was really positively surprised of how good they actually captured historical facts that were told by real historians. Also, when they were doing the bomber runs, there was just one thought constanty running through my mind: how the hell did real american pilots manage to go through all that flak cannon fire. I mean, it's insane that they managed to pull it off. And still, here we are today, living our lives better because of those brave pilots of ww2 who went to battle and maintained the supremacy in the skies of Europe, Pacific and North Africa.
this was such a good movie!
Best thing about the movie was that bombs, torpedoes and lots of other kind of ammo actually missed their targets. In Pearl Harbor it was ridiculous how much was hit at every single try.
Yeah… The aim was terrible on both sides… There was no missile guidance these were the crew days of manual bombsights and a lot of luck if any
Difference was at pearl the ships were in the harbor stationary that's why so many hit the targets ..while the Japanese carriers at midway were able to maneuver
@@jimrobinson684 In the archive material of that attack, you see a lot of chaotic firing from both sides. "Pearl" made it look like it was a precise attack, but historically it was otherwise. Even with docked ships.
koekoek the Japanese Navy had been practicing and rehearsing their attack on Pearl Harbor for almost 6 months Bedford they attacked. I believe they rehearsed the attack in Yokohama bay and laid out ships in the harbor as they would in pearl.
Japanese torpedoes were far superior than that of the US during that time
I'm blown away at the bravery of those on all sides of this. To be honest, I'd have gone to Mexico to avoid the war.
Unfortunarly i was born un the 80's. But of i was born un the 20's. I would of join the Navy or Marines.
I only have used three words to say *Rest in Peace* to those sailor's that lost their lives in the battle of *MIDWAY* , they serve their nation to the fullest without a return. *SALUTE* .
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They are war criminals. They can't be justified.
@@tomrinderberg7104 wha
never enuff specail effects Midway was great 👍
One of my new favorite war films
I actually like how they actually designed the ships even the little details or the ship that they actually used to their actual counterpart....
Except the destroyers, especially _Arashi,_ have a torpedo launcher in place of the forward turret
They were also 3 Yamato's in the fleet with the 4 carriers, which ya know, doesn't make even a lick of sense.
@@Shank039 those aren't Yamatos
@@viet_cong_momiji2324 When they first discover the Kido Butai they show a top down view and you can clearly see 3 Yamato class battleships. They are very distinct.
Said clip isn't in this video, but they are there. It is definitely a nitpick but they stand out like a sore thumb if you know what to look for. There where only 2 Yamato class, the Yamato and Musashi, and I don't think the latter was sea worthy yet but you can see earlier in the movie the Yamato is with Yamamoto further back.
For an old timer, i like the 70’s midway...same story, different story teller kinda made the difference, didn’t feel anything now whenever a plane got shot down...either sides !
I agree 100%. Saw the original when i was a kid, and a couple times after. This seemed rushed and over sensationalized imo. Just didn't find it all that great.
I thought there was too much romance in the 70’s one. War movies don’t need romances stuck in for no reason. I was lucky enough to be able to see it in ‘Sensurround’ - the whole theater shook! The explosions were awesome! I also saw Battlestar Galactica the same way.
The old actors in the 1970's movie were better too.
The new movie was okay, but the writing could have been more focused, and the editing better. There was zero attention paid to the larger story of the scouting, and how the battle came together. Maybe a lot of that footage was filmed, but cut - if that is the case then maybe a better film will get released later.
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From a history point a view. Those pilots flew through hell.
In the last run… Most didn’t make it. It’s a shame we can’t get more recognition for those guys. The dead till no tales…
Except for the dive bombers attacking the carriers. The Japanese were completely caught off guard and were actually reloading aircraft on the flight line when they attacked. They didn't put up that much fire. And dive bombers like the dauntless dropped their bombs over a 1,000 feet up, not scraping the carrier deck. If that happened, the planes would have been destroyed too.
@@willthorson4543 Do you fly? I have for the USAF and a 1000 feet isn't much to play with even in those old birds. Yes pulling out of a dive like that at a 1000 feet will put you at water level.
@@Satchel_Charge2 I've always read that the Dive-bombing technique used by the USN in WWII was to pull out between 2000 and 1500 feet. And before you ask, no I haven't flown. although I may actually be able to in a pinch if required. (Might not be pretty, but it would be accomplished)
It’s classic Roland Emmerich CGI, but despite his lack of substance in other projects, the CG was one of many very deep elements in this movie, especially in the film’s “direct-to-history” plot. Honestly, despite calling some of his previous work “guilty pleasures,” like 2012, this movie (along with Independence Day) are the only two I have sincere respect for. Like if this guy put this level of effort into a Battle Off Samar movie and focused heavily on the battle itself, I’d let him be my child’s godfather. Yet, he keeps pumping out the bullshit like Moonfall…
I really wish the marketing department at done a better job for this movie. I think most people got the impression of another Pearl Harbor.
Thank you F ZERO for showing me just how terrible this movie was. I had skipped it because I saw inaccuracies in the previews and now seeing even more inaccuracies despite the trumpeted "historical accuracy".
This wasn't a movie, it was a video game. Granted, you are not going to find WW2 ships laying about nowadays, but there are over 300 WW2 aircraft today that is airworthy. This movie didn't even try.
Yes, this movie paved a path from Pearl Harbor to Midway, but if you are going to call a movie Midway, how about showing important aspects?
1) The Tokyo raid by Doolittle and his B-25 bombers did set the stage for the battle but it finally gave Yamamoto the impetus to push for an attack on Midway.
2) Strategy sessions by the Japanese included wargaming a decoy attack on Alaskan bases to draw off American carriers.
3) The code breakers figuring out what the Japanese were up to.
4) The USS Yorktown was badly damaged in the battle of the coral sea and there was an incredible effort to make her seaworthy in just 3 days-just in time for the midway battle.
5) The attack on the Alaskan bases.
6) The continuous patrols by American PBY's with the three incomplete spottings and the one well done spotting report.
7) Yes, Midway had an air wing that did attack the japanese fleet, but this movie got the planes ALL WRONG.
8) The japanese attack on Midway-obsolete American fighter planes bravely tried to defend the island and many of them were shot down.
9) The tit for tat air attacks between American and Japanese carriers and the strategy-even though both navies were groping in the dark.
Thanks again F ZERO.
Pope Anthony ok boomer
@@Gio81637 Rather than reply to your insult with an insult I will say this: Growing old is not for the weak. With age you should aquire wisdom and in wisdom you should want the correct telling of an incident. Suppose someone was telling the story that you spent your high school years with your finger up your nose, reeking of B.O., and begging girls who wanted nothing to do with you to go out with you? You know different. But suppose this story was printed on Facebook and was liked 100k time? You would want your name cleared, unless you actually are like this. Since you took a cowardly cheap shot at me without stating evidence to the contrary, what am I to presume?
Pope Anthony ok boomer
@Craig My measuring stick is the war movies of the 1960's and 70's. Granted, there were some stinkers back then, but also great ones like Sink the Bismarck, The Longest Day and Battle of Britain.
9:03, I love the way Dickinson's SBD fishtails as it pulls out of the dive, and the slow mo makes it so badass
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@@nadiarafaelcunha9522 ahm?
According to Dickingson's account in his article - with the collaboration of Boyden Sparkes - "the target was utterly satisfying", he made an error and opened the landing flaps. Because of that his plane was slowed down and he saw instead of doing 280knots, he was doing only 95.
@@jmrodas9 soooo 🛩💥🚢??
The special effects team behind this plays way too much battlefield 5.
That may have been where they pull it from. They know that they need to entertain the audience with good visuals.
Basically all films are based on others so Crossover is quite common. I’ve seen some video game acting better than some movies… Command and conquer for example although Extremely bad compared to a box office movie… I’ve seen some real blenders in the box office
@@RAZR_Channel the explosions sure look like it. Like napalm bombs. Lol
@@incom8062 And all of them very similar.
@@josephastier7421 napalm explosions from battlefield1
No just the way it was my dad's brother was there he said all most the way it was but in real life a lot worst but good job making the film
Great job of editing. Superb video. I’ve watched this 10 times and will watch it some more. Great job lads......
This is Hollywood. Damn the accuracy, full speed ahead!
Damn fucking right… I’m sick of all these people complaining about “not realistic “… I don’t give a fuck about that shit.
For example when you pick out a girlfriend do you want the fantasy for the Obees reality… Fat or slim make your choice (Saw)
F-ZERO Very true. Never pick out a blow up doll for a girlfriend if it’s obese, or full of bees.
Highlightedreply, many, many years ago my father, a ww2 vet himself worked with a Navy Wildcat pilot who fought at the Battle of Midway. I honestly do not know his name as i was small and my dad has since passed. My understanding is that the wildcat fighters, especially with Lt. Cmdr Jimmy Thatch's group did fight and provide cover for the dive bombers.
Lt. Cmdr. Thatch's fighters did provide cover, but it was for the torpedo squadron from the YORKTOWN.
@@hollywood1793 Fighting 3, the wildcats also attached themselves to protect 17 SBDs as well as the TBDs, as they attacked the first enemy force on June 4th. Most of the TBD groups went in without substantial fighter escort and were slaughtered.
well this movie was from the bomber perspective, but it should also be noted that due to thatchers tactics, later called hte thatch weave, this was the first time the zero's *lost* in a dogfight. the previous waves before thatch combined totaled less than a dozen fighters downed, mostly by bomber gunners.
Thatches work did more than 20 in a single wave.
Those hunks with wings were like flying coffins.... they had a bad rep
Thatch's weave action drew a lot of IJN CAP fighters away from their main job and gave an opening for VB6 and VT6 to hit something. All the sacrifices before that did run out the clock on Nagumo preventing him from launching counterpunches . . . very expensive win for us.
also in japan, "white zero" is the legend.
we can watch his movie in 2020
I think the KI-84 ("green zero") was much better airplane: faster, more powerful guns and can go higher than the white zeros.
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N1K2J, Ki100 and Ki84 all more capable in the fast evolving environment only if you're raining good replacement pilots for them in numbers . . . It ain't necessarily always the bike it's more the "motor" on the pedals if you want to keep pace.
@@icewaterslim7260 Yeah but with the 'white zero' we were referring to the A6Ms, those were more of the early models. The KI84s were far more advanced, I flew both planes for 3 years in the game 'Warbirds' years ago. A6M maneuvered well but was under gunned and slow comparatively to the KI84. KI84 has heavier guns and it climbs like few other planes did in WWII yet still maneuvering well. Of course like most Japanese planes it also lacked the strong armor plates so you had to watch your 6 all the time and stay out of any bullets. ... Miss those days of flying them.
@@tibork3845 Yeah if I can find the time, I want to get into War Thunder with a Ki100 and see how many people will follow me in a vertical. I'd want to keep some altitude in that one anyway. it's the age of the information super-highway though and the uninformed might be rare on the planet, lol.
I gotta stay ahead of those rangy 50 cal I know and get up close and personal with the Type 99 20 mm that's also still used in the Kawasaki. Surviving IJN Ace Honda Minoru once said in an interview that the type 99 round "dropped like a stream of piss." lmao. He claimed to be one of the poorer shots so he'd get within 50 meters to pull the trigger. He must've swung out of that debris path quickly after that. Maybe even skidding through his shot to the side but he didn't say. He did mention skidding to evade being shot though.
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The Kawasaki Ki100 was a radial retrofit Ki61 "Tony" which was much improved in performance. Most of our pilots would probably have miss identified it as it didn't even have a code name assigned to it. Surviving Army Ace Major Yohei HInoki flew one for the 2nd Daitai, 111th Sentai, during the final month of the war, as an instructor after having his leg shot off in an Oscar by a P51. He got most of his kills in a Ki43 Oscar which he described as a "disaster". Maybe some in a Ki27 Nate over Burma.
He claimed a P51 kill while flying a Ki100 with his class one day which he thought might've been Captain John Benbow of 457th Squadron, 505th Group who was MIA. I personally thought, from the sound of all accounts, it more likely to be one of the shot up P51s from the 21st or 506th FG that returned to base as neither HInoki or his students had any opportunity to follow it for a confirmation. Unconfirmed over claims during a frenetic air battle were very common on both sides.
My grandpa fought with the japanese because he loved their culture. For my grandpa Hirohito was a God on earth. If my grandpa had had much money he could have given all to The Emperor.
How is that he ended up fighting for the japanese? Was he peruvian?
This video gives new meaning to the word "disjointed."
Tbh when I originally went to see this I was only exited about the naval scenes cause I’m a huge fan of naval history. Didn’t do so good with the historical accuracy part but it won me over with the story and action scenes
So the story won you over? That's the history your looking at. It was very accurate. You might want to read the account.
KK Hagerty it was actually very historically accurate get your facts straight
This is offiecially the BEST ww2 movie ever 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Wtf this is a shitty movie
@@vodkainglassofstalinium1221 says you. Haven't you seen the epicness in this movie?
The military truth about Midway is this: Every action taken by the Japanese Navy before Midway must be viewed as a victory and every action taken by the U.S. Navy after Midway, must be construed as a victory.
Some people debate which was the actual turning point of the Pacific War, Midway or Guadalcanal. The Truth is that after Midway the Japanese were never again on the offensive in the Pacific. The Battles in the Solomons were strictly defensive from the Japanese viewpoint. Note however I said in the Pacific, the CBI Theater they tried several times to close off the land link with China from India.
I see a couple hands in the back of the room-Santa Cruz and USS Hornet CV8 would like a word...
This has many technical inaccuracies. The SBD was nearly impossible to shoot down once in a dive. It out dived everything. Also, when the SBD was in an attack stance, its to .50 cal machine guns were raking its target hence killing many on deck and on the bridges. Also, during Midway, the American carriers launched Wildcats that provided some fighter cover. By the end, the Americans lost one carrier while the Japanese lost all four along with several over heavy ships.
My uncle died in WW2 he is a pilot ...when I see that Mitsubishi Jet I remember my uncle
Where did he died and who was the enemy
@@zigagasperlin1228 my uncle died in singapore 1941 when Japanese attack Malaya
@@muslimmakhachev3746 respect to your uncle
@@zigagasperlin1228 thanks...but I'm so sad.. until now his body not been found
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The movie was great.
It's nice that you found all those scenes.
But to be honest the slow motion annoyed me.
Same
same the audio when the slow mo happened really bothered me
The cutting and slowmo made an otherwise enjoyable film a hot mess.
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Some who have flown combat missions, say that as you close on the target, and your vision narrows, that there is a slow motion effect, that you note the AA rounds and trace fire coming by you, pieces flying off the planes being hit, and even movement on the decks when you are close enough. I like the pilot's eye sort of viewpoint. I was concerned at first since the video seemed to concentrate on the Pearl Harbor battle which the USA certainly did lose.
It was typical of WWII attacks by airplanes that were not Dive bombers, when the Japanese fleet at speed in the ocean was able to avoid damage from the land-based bombers that were flown from Midway. I don't recall any similar attacks on warships that were successful during WWII.
The carnage the U.S. Torpedo squadrons suffered was realistic and brutal, but it was part of war. The U.S. Navy had not yet learned the value of coordinated attacks with fighter protection, from the squadrons of different carriers. Fortunately for the U.S., the IJN was focused on highly coordinated mass attacks with carrier groups, but did not hold back one carriers deck for supporting Combat Air Patrol flights for an extended period of time, especially when attack sorties were returning to their home ships, low on fuel, tired and maybe damaged.
the battle of the Bismarck Sea , all land based aircraft, worth a look
I respect both soldiers ✌️
Thanks for the compilation!
Thanks... it's over 200 cuts... about a hundred effects.
Japan loses 4 carriers!!
Turning point the Pacific war.
Still a lot of fighting left, but the odds were starting to go against Japan.
The turning point was that the Americans had cracked the Japanese code. Only then did the Japanese lose the 4 aircraft carriers
Does this movie showns the sinking of the Yorktown?
@@ernstschloss8794 yes
Until we dropped the bomb !
Turning point in the Pacific war was when the US Navy started building 27 aircraft carriers, hundreds of cruisers, destroyers, and submarines, and God knows how many aircraft, The Japanese were buried by U.S industry.
I like this film. Can;t see the reason why people hate it.
the main complaint is " It's not realistic " ... and to those people I say: if you want to complain about that it's going to be a very boring movie. Cinema is about entertainment realistic or not. when you choose a girlfriend... do you want the fantasy slim sexy... or the realistic obese average?
No Wildcats?
@@RAZR_Channel when I choose a girlfriend, all I care about is the pussy
Weesky you must be new to the film industry
@HopeToTheWEAK None of that would have happened. Japan couldn't have captured Hawaii even if they had won at Midway. Plus, they had no interest in Hawaii. Or America.
Shipboard anti-aircraft guns were almost completely ineffective - when the Yamato was sunk, it and its 9 escort ships were all bristling with anti-aircraft guns. Four-hundred American planes attacked, sinking the Yamato and 5 other ships, for the loss of only 10 planes. In the battle of Midway, almost all the American planes shot down were from Japanese planes. Also, US dive bombers didn't drop 10,000 napalm bombs, not every shot fired was a tracer round, etc.
*japanese aa wasn't very effective. American aa got fairly good by the end of the war with better fuses.
Its a movie not real life if you want real watch a document or smt
@@jebsvjxbdxb1128 It's a movie based on real life go play vanguard or smt
If only these fights was star wars technology 🧐💭🇺🇲⚔️🇯🇵. 🛩🚢
Tremenda batalla hasta el final.
The more you know : they got the B-26 attack wrong. They didn't bombed from high altitude, it was actually twelve USAAF B-17. They were flying so high that they weren't bothered by the AA. However, it gave enough time to the Japanese to anticipate and dodge the bombs. The B-26 (four of them) attacked at low attitude with six TBF Avengers. Two B-26 were shot down during their torpedo run. One of them attempted to ram Akagi, but ultimately failed. Another one, _Suzie Q_ straffed Akagi, shooting two crewmembers. _Suzie Q_ and the remaining B-26 managed to return to Midway, depsite suffering catastrophic damages.
The more I watch movies that are released in the last decade, the more i love old movies. Completely CGI effects. Looks like Battlefield III videogame. Pearl Harbor (2001) movie is also a war movie with many explosions and destructions, but these effects are practical and looks much more realistic than CGI effects of Midway (2019) movie. I don't want to waste my time, ears and eyes watching this movie. Even CGI beats this. But this is a videogame. Or may be CGI effects used by free and open-source piece of software like Blender, i think. :) :) :) .
What is sad is that Hollywood *could* do an absolutely fantastic job today if they would use the technology correctly, tighten up the writing, and hire directors that actually spent a little time studying the history...
So you enjoy the movie effect more than the history accuracy?
War - What is it Good For? Entertainment; jobs for: actors, cinematographers, writers, directors, advertisers etc etc
War is good business.
War sells very well… That’s why every major movie has one. If you’re not familiar there is a famous speech from a military colonel I believe. He clearly states that “ war is a racket “ And wrote a book with that title
Freedom isn't free.
Não se fazem mais filmes como Top Gun, e até Cavaleiros do Ar.
São tantos efeitos especiais, computação gráfica... Parece mais um anime. Pqp.
Midway 👍👍👍🎬🎬🎬📽📽📽📽
The Japanese Admiral Yamamoto responsible for the attack on Pearl Harbor said: "I am afraid we have awakened a sleeping giant" and it was
yes, it is scary how the Japanese closed the axis side of the Nazis, putting the Americans directly next to the allies and consequently Brazil together to free the part of Europe
What a great movie...totally awesome.
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¡Thanks! This movie is a dream done reality, best whit 1979, I see in cinema❤❤❤❤🐱🐱🐱🐱
Ya.. it's a Great Watch!
@@RAZR_Channel Muchas gracias por el video y la correccion🐱🐱me emocione pues soñaba con una version asi de esta que es una de las batallas aeronavales mas particulares en la historia militar de la humanidad y en la pelicula se narran los hechos en una forma bastante fidedigna, con herramientas cinematograficas modernas.
He leido mucho acerca de la SGM y a mi Felino juicio esta es una gran pelicula que merecia triunfar como 1917.
Ni hablar por ahora no fue apreciada como debiera🐱🐱🐱
Gracias por los videos🐱🐱🐱
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Thank you, for this great video upload! I have the *"Birds of Steel"* program by *Konami* for the Sony PlayStation 3. I haven't run the program in almost five years. (I literally *wore out TWO PS3 Consoles,* trying to 'finish', certain PS3 programs! *"Birds of Steel",* among them!)
Watching your video, just made me determined to *buy myself some more PS3 Consoles,* so I can *finally FINISH the BLASTED PROGRAM!* )
Very nice and interesting wow keep on the same track thanks
looks more like a game you would play instead of the movie
Actually i thought its a game at the beggining
It's clearly a movie what video game are you talking about
@@taskforceknight9336 move did not look like this to me.
@@ellenbradley1880 Exactly! For a second i through it was the Trailer for a Midway videogame like Red Alert CGI+Real actors cinematic.
Something as Battlestations Midway remake.
I feel bad for say this but... The Hated Bay's Pearl Harbor have effect looks more real in 2001 that a movie released in 2019.
boy: fast asleep with plane plushee
parents:awwww
boy's mind:
6:00 That plane passed over the captain's head by about fifteen feet IRL.
Joseph Astier it’s true that a B-26 did fly over the island of a Japanese carrier, but the bombers are portrayed incorrectly. They r actually torpedo bombers, and the guy only flew over the carrier after making a pass, not in a kamikaze type attack
hitting the bullseye under pressure is the specialty of the elite marksman.
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the Douglas SBD Dauntless is the best dive bomber of WW2
I was stationed on Midway Island in 1960. I was in the Navy and flew out of Midway on an airborne early warning patrol plane. There was nothing there except gooney birds and sand. We bathed in salt water and washed our uniforms in salt water. The barracks were there when Japan attacked Midway Island and had holes in the steel I-beams from the armor piercing ammunition used by the Japanese.
Regardless of how much Hollywood may have embellished it, the pilots were brave and daring men who gave their all to prevent an invasion of our western coast and defeat Japanese agression.
Yeah it’s kind of sad that we don’t get to see some credit for the guys that tried but didn’t make it. Only some liveto tell their tails… While the others gave quite literally everything…
But hey that just means their wives weren’t back on the market
Hollywood can't truly embellish or capture enough of this battle with it's fear and chaos.
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Imagine a diving run with all those bullets coming up at you! I heard a speech by a old veteran who dive bombed the Japanese ships that day and one of his bombs was one that hit the ship which was hit three times by dive bombers . His bomb was one of the three hits. I talked with him a bit afterwards. He was a smallish unassuming person. The Japanese military taught their people insanity. The sowed at Pearl Harbor and then they reaped at Midway and afterwards.
リアルですね。凄い映画づくりの、テクノロジーですね。 アメリカ軍が、いい者役で、大日本帝国海軍が悪者役で、作られています。
Amszing rendition of possibilities from a btilliant Japanese perspective.
Man the New War Thunder Update Looks awsome, cant wait to Play it
The SBD bombers released their bombs from a 70 degree dive at 3000 ft typically but as low as 1500 ft. They would pull out at 500 ft., I guess that wasn't dramatic enough for the movie. There were 4 B-26 bombers attacking the Japanese fleet with torpedoes. They did not perform level bombing attacks as shown in the movie. B-17s attacked from high altitude but the maneuvering ships were not hit, but no B-17 was hit either. 2 of the 4 B-26 bombers failed to return to Midway and the 2 that did were badly damaged, over 500 bullet holes were counted in one of them. One of the 2 surviving B-26 bombers flew down the deck of one of the aircraft carriers with the bombardier strafing the ship as they barrelled down the deck (wounding two Japaneses gunners and temporarily knocking out an AA turret). This could have been a dramatic bit for the movie but was not included. One B-26 nearly hit the conning tower of one of the carriers as shown in the movie before it crashed into the sea. No one knows what happened to the 4th B-26. For the torpedo to be effective the bombers had to slow to about 120 mph and release at about 100 feet, making the bombers easy targets for ship gunners and Zero fighters. Of 47 SBD Navy dive bombers, 18 were lost, some running out of fuel and having to ditch. 39 Navy torpedo bombers were lost.
Very Interesting... thank you for taking the time to make such a detailed post. History movies are Hard Sell in Hollywood... it's rare that they even make it to the big screen.
Your right about the typical SBD bomb run but in this case the pilots wanted to be sure of hits and took it lower than was safe. True!
The "pull out of the dive and scrape the waves at the last minute" scenes .. is anyone else reminded of the rolling rock scene from Indiana Jones?
Cool stuff. This movie wasnt so much Midway as Star Wars 1942. Historical accuracy be dammed vs a good show.
Exactly... a few commenters have been all pissed off and shit about the CGI saying that it's " Not Realistic ".... fuck that shit! it was a damn good watch. People want to be entertained.. and Midway delivered on that. if you want realistic go to a museum....
@@RAZR_Channel Exactly! Stuff like this should spark interest in historical events.
It still amazes me every time I see a clip of the War of the Pacific. How can a tiny country keep a giant at bay for 5 years? What if Japan was the size of Russia? There are countries who will never surrender as in South America where the words Surrender and Deterrence don’t exist in their vocabulary, not even two nukes will make them surrender.
This war was like a fight of 10 against 1. I presume Fifty Japans can fit the U.S.
@@yolamontalvan9502 what the hell are you babbling on about. And all I can say about your south America commenting is,the Falklands. Also this movie is shockingly shite
This movie actually got a lot of things right historical wise but yeah, the CGI could use some work.
Thanks for great Montage
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You know this is America right
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There is something wrong when scenes shot in the thirties look less fake than this. The creators sure get carried away with themselves. I was about to get the new Midway but this changed my mind.
Which was worse Pearl Harbor or Midway ?
Most of the stunts were real. The SBD pulling out just above the water and weaving between bursts was a real person and actually happened.
@@johnLA1961 that question is depends
Very well done
Sin lugar a dudas una batalla naval y aerea
Its amazing.
Yesterday they used to turn movies into video games, now they make movies out of video games.
Mmg best citer..
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The dauntlesses were so dauntless.
NICE MOVIE
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Man, those r the scenes
ya just don't regularly see?
That's the Dolittle raid also known as the Tokyo Raid, was an air raid on 18 April 1942 by the United States on the Japanese capital Tokyoand other places on Honshu during World War II. It was the first air operation to strike the Japanese archipelago. It demonstrated that the Japanese mainland was vulnerable to American air attack, served as retaliation for the attack on Pearl Harbor, and provided an important boost to American morale. The raid was planned, led by, and named after Lieutenant Colonel James Doolittle, later General of the United States Air Force
Btw how the hell does a B25 takeoff on a carrier, it takes more runway to takeoff
@Stug 3 117 wow ok,never new
@@achrafhamdani884 The carreir is moving into the wind at 30+ knots, so with a 5-10 mph breeze the B-25 is moving at about 40+mph before it even starts to take off.
@@George-bb9yi ah,well now I know bcs b25 where naval bombers
These were America's finest!!
What do you want next...? I'm thinking fight scenes... or do you want more big scene explosions type stuff..?
Can you tell me, what is the name of that film on your video?
This video is Midway 2019
@@RAZR_Channel Question, in regard to your comments on another thread, this movie seems historically accurate, other than some dramatised moments with the characters, so why does everyone put this movie down so much?
Pls red tail or kamikaze
Pearl Harbor scene is atrociously awful. Oh My it's so fake. It ruined the movie.
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I believe the actual anti-aircraft fire from the Japanese ships was not so nearly intense as depicted here. Most of the dive bombers are believed to have arrived and attacked relatively unmolested,, The torpedo bomber had just finished their disastrous runs and been annihilated by the Zeroes, but left no protection above. The Japanese "Kate" torpedo bombers were the most deaaly weapon of the Japanese air, so naturally the one they originally feared most. Ironically they barely got close enough to even launch.
The majority of the american losses were due to the japanese fighters. Only one plane was downed due to AA fire.
The Kate wasn't a significant improvement compared to the Devastator. The one thing it had in it's favor was a torpedo that could be air launched at a higher altitude and faster speed. But when met with fighter opposition (CAP) they too were shot down in great numbers.
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Admiral Nagumo was a fool!
Arrogance is a common trait among military leaders… If they lose they blame the man if they win they take the credit
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Very Good vedio
Thanks… Took me an entire day to do it… There’s over 300 cuts and maybe 100 or so affects
I enjoyed the movie, but where are the Wildcat fighters?
In history, when the bombers arrived targets, the fighters were lost. So that's why the torpedo bombers were easily vanished by Zero because they had no protection.
Still in the nursery...
That was a hell of fight.
Looks like a video game.
Well it is a lot of CGI…
Love the movie but it has two problems...One) USN fighters are nearly not shown at all in the movie (and the Wildcats, led by people like Butch O hare) were pretty lethal at Midway (both Marine and USN). and the Dauntless was a hell f a dive bomber and with a pair of .50's in the nose there were FOUR aces in Dauntlesses! An SBD would normally run, but a well driven dauntless would make a mess out of Japanese formations.
Yeah… There was so much going on at that time and so many details that there’s no way they could get the movie done if they tried to cover everything... To get the script sold to the board members they had to cut corners… Come in under budget… And hopefully have a good turn out. Unfortunately I think marketing really let them down on this one because there’s a large segment of the audience that just wants to be entertained myself included.
I don’t know much about history except what I see on like history channel which is always biased. Worldwide I believe the movie came in just Enough to make a profit.
Many people have complained about the CGI aspect and the overdone graphics but that’s what it takes to sell movie these days. The younger generations don’t give a damn about history. And frankly neither do I. I want to be entertained when I sit in that seat… I mean no disrespect but that’s the bottom line for many people
@@RAZR_Channel Read some famous fiction (ANY James Bond (Ian Flemming) book or Tom Clancy) and just see what ended up on the screen (pretty sad really, not bad...but not the books by a moon shot), but to make Red Storm Rising would cost half a BILLION dollars to make! And most Bond movies have just the names in common with the stories (view to a kill was a 36 page short story).
He said "This one`s for becky" as he watched the last one fall........
This movie almost accurately depicted from dive bombers view as I think, It's Amazingly Terrifying to behold.
Yeah those guys were straight up insane.... This was REAL Bravery! Top Gun ain't got shit on these guys.
@@RAZR_Channel dive bombing is not an easy task though, too fast you will become an improvised kamikaze plane, too slow you will be roasted by AA guns, i used to use this tactic in war thunder, scary and risky as hell but i like it, imagine a b-17 came out of nowhere and dive bombing your cruiser but somehow still alive...
Well it was a bit exaggerated, but still acceptable.
@@ΓρηγόρηςΠανούσης yes, I saw it on the video (not sure though) the main character has it's final blow, having the most dramatic diving and bombing.
Was the Japanese AA really that thick? I’ve read their point defenses were actually pretty weak, at least compared to US’s. Their best defense appeared to be Zero interceptors. But don’t misunderstand me, even if AA was minimal all those guys in the attack planes were very brave.
4:32 that happened to me in the game Pacific Fighters/IL-2 1946 many times when taking off from an escort carrier or a stationary fleet carrier.
I feel bad for the fish
Me too… I hadn’t thought of that until you mentioned it
Very nice
CGI ruins films like this. Surely with this technology they could depict air combat as it was during the war. This is not Star Wars!
It's a CGI wankfest.
Ty I have my fix for the night
Those bombers are really resistant to G force xD, they pulled 20G after releasing the bomb at the last time without a problem lol.
Yeah… And these aircraft was pretty crude… Those pilots that did this really had some nerve. I think the copilot/tailgunner had it even worse because he has no control over the situation. If they’re in a dive in the pilot gets shot he’s done there’s nothing he can control except bail out and that would probably be in enemy waters
It’s a crying shame they don’t film movies anymore. Just cram 90 minutes of CGI shit together and you’re good to go. Bloody hell.
This was pretty accurate in my opinion except for mistake in aircraft a few times and the amount of Japanese AA and American deaths
How many times in this movie they showed dive bombers pulling mere feet from hitting the ground or the ships? Too much Hollywood...
the pilots barely had time to pull up from the dive, some passing out in the process due to pulling extra g's, the german manufactured stuka had this problem, their fix was an automatic pulling device, im getting off track here, what you see here is historically correct
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