In N.I. we track in 20mm conduit for switch/socket drops Doesnt offer additional mechanical protection but offers the ability to easily rewire/ add additional cables after the fact
I hate capping, and I find it causes as many problems as it solves. However, customers expect it to be fitted, and assume I'm a cowboy when I don't. So I generally just go ahead and fit it now. BTW, just want to point out that the RCD is required for cables buried
It was nice and very wonderful if you start with "I work in country *X* and my *own opinion* is follow!" 😂 In *my country* Kingdom of Thailand do you can see the cable normally - only in foreign houses they should be hide behind in the wall. In *my home country* Federal Republic of Germany do you put them *into the wall* into specific cable areas and can secure them inside pipes or behind metals. In *other european countries* e.g. Austria or Spain do you put them *into the walls into strong pipes* from hard materials. Do you see the point? 😂
Just because you don’t HAVE to, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. Better practice and future proofs it in the event of a possible replacement due to damage. Obviously there are instances where it may not be possible but better to be used where possible
You can't feed new cables through capping, use oval conduit if that's what you're worried about - although if someone drills a hole then often oval conduit becomes impossible to reuse too. For data I've chased in round conduit in my living room wall. But that requires a lot more depth.
Never use capping, only oval. Have pulled through capping a few times but it’s a rarity. Pulled through oval plenty of times after being drilled into. Might have to do a small amount of repair but nothing like when a cable is directly buried. About £20 to supply a standard 3 bed, imo it’s worth it
@@Spark101. Regulation 521.10.202 of the 18th Edition requires all cables to be adequately supported using non-combustible fixings to prevent premature collapse in the event of a fire.
@@Lew2Two Thank you for reciting that regulation. In 23 years, it’s the first time I’ve come across it! 🙄 If a ceiling has survived long enough in a fire to comply with current building regs, they themselves have not prematurely failed! Once that ceiling does eventually fail, and cables above are exposed…..do you think the collapse of said cables will still be premature?
All those comments about plasterers is bollocks, the days of bonding that wall and skimming are long gone it will be dot and dabbed and skimmed no need for capping its wank
@RDavisElectrical ever heard the customer is always right? You get paid to cap, you better cap. You get paid to do anything, you better do it... now since you're making a mockery of that, you proved exactly what I just said
The capping protects the cable from the lime and water in the plaster. Metal capping could very well stop a person from forcing the drill through it , and RCD. Protection is for additional protection not basic protection. Read and listen to real Sparks before you continue with this lazy instal method please You are letting your customers down
Standard plaster does not contain lime, it instead contains gypsum, also, that water you speak of is gone after a few days. And are you saying you cap all your installs with metal capping Mr real sparks?
In N.I. we track in 20mm conduit for switch/socket drops
Doesnt offer additional mechanical protection but offers the ability to easily rewire/ add additional cables after the fact
We cap our cables so they're protected from rough plasters who may cut them
They don’t plaster onto breeze block though. Drylining
He means protection from the plasterer’s trowel. Who in this case would render mortar onto this type of surface.
@@abdulseaforth6930 they wouldn't render though. They'd just dot and dab plasterboard these days.
@Dontmindme__ they are concrete blocks, so might well plaster straight on to them
@abdulseaforth6930 you can't render with cement onto PVC cable
no cap, but embedded conduit s a general practice in lot of countries, and you can change the wires without digging the wall
I hate capping, and I find it causes as many problems as it solves. However, customers expect it to be fitted, and assume I'm a cowboy when I don't. So I generally just go ahead and fit it now. BTW, just want to point out that the RCD is required for cables buried
Capping is used so the plasterer don’t f the cable
Plaster eats through insulation over time, conduit is installed to protect insulation from chemical damage, not mechanical
Capping to protect cables from the corrosive effect of cement if cement I'd used
It was nice and very wonderful if you start with "I work in country *X* and my *own opinion* is follow!" 😂
In *my country* Kingdom of Thailand do you can see the cable normally - only in foreign houses they should be hide behind in the wall.
In *my home country* Federal Republic of Germany do you put them *into the wall* into specific cable areas and can secure them inside pipes or behind metals.
In *other european countries* e.g. Austria or Spain do you put them *into the walls into strong pipes* from hard materials.
Do you see the point? 😂
Rough as fuck. Chase it in and use conduit.
Chase it in and do it properly rhe horizontal cable still scares me
On a dot and dab wall like that, no capping, but if its being rendered then it should be capped
Just because you don’t HAVE to, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. Better practice and future proofs it in the event of a possible replacement due to damage. Obviously there are instances where it may not be possible but better to be used where possible
You can't feed new cables through capping, use oval conduit if that's what you're worried about - although if someone drills a hole then often oval conduit becomes impossible to reuse too.
For data I've chased in round conduit in my living room wall. But that requires a lot more depth.
Never use capping, only oval. Have pulled through capping a few times but it’s a rarity. Pulled through oval plenty of times after being drilled into. Might have to do a small amount of repair but nothing like when a cable is directly buried. About £20 to supply a standard 3 bed, imo it’s worth it
What about metallic fire rated clips instead of the bog standard PVC?
There are plenty above mate where it’s required 👍🏻
Why on earth would you put metal clips on cables to be buried in the walls or ceilings?
@@Spark101. Regulation 521.10.202 of the 18th Edition requires all cables to be adequately supported using non-combustible fixings to prevent premature collapse in the event of a fire.
@@Lew2Twohas this not been talked to death….the bit to pay attention to there is premature collapse.
@@Lew2Two Thank you for reciting that regulation. In 23 years, it’s the first time I’ve come across it! 🙄
If a ceiling has survived long enough in a fire to comply with current building regs, they themselves have not prematurely failed!
Once that ceiling does eventually fail, and cables above are exposed…..do you think the collapse of said cables will still be premature?
Unless your plastering over them right?
No one was and is capping in Europe, that crazy place with sockets next to the sink, rcd/rcbo'ed or not.
Anyone ever said that you sound like Ian poulter the golfer 😂😂
capping is just to make it look good, people spend a lot of money on rewrites, it just "looks" better, no reason to do, no reason not to do it tbh.
Metal conduit all the way 😅
Good practice though
Uk electricians wind me up. Great video, capping is an absolute waste of time.
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more to the point wtf is going on with that cut in the blockwork 😂😂
35mm conduit should become standard practice in houses: easier for later additions, just fish cable through to new point
What on earth does additional protection have to do with pvc capping over cables???
Exactly
Might as well use unsheathed wires as they are RCD protected 🤣
All those comments about plasterers is bollocks, the days of bonding that wall and skimming are long gone it will be dot and dabbed and skimmed no need for capping its wank
Exactly
Well they are not gone are they, it’s still common practice
That’s cap
You sound like someone i would never hire to work for me....
You sound like someone I’d never want to work for 🤣🤣🤣 god help anyone that does
@RDavisElectrical ever heard the customer is always right? You get paid to cap, you better cap. You get paid to do anything, you better do it... now since you're making a mockery of that, you proved exactly what I just said
@@Adobo121 get paid to cap?? 🤣🤣🤣. Funny man
@@ryandavis8064 you must not run a business?
If someone drilling into them with no capping definitely won’t save them but with capping it might especially with metal capping
The more I see your video's the more I wonder??are you trying to get people electrocuted??
Can you explain how this could increase the chances of getting someone electrocuted over installing with pvc capping?
What about the lime in the plaster that rots the pvc over years amateur video mate
Standard plaster does not have lime in it. It has gypsum. Amateur comment, mate
The capping protects the cable from the lime and water in the plaster. Metal capping could very well stop a person from forcing the drill through it , and RCD. Protection is for additional protection not basic protection.
Read and listen to real Sparks before you continue with this lazy instal method please
You are letting your customers down
Standard plaster does not contain lime, it instead contains gypsum, also, that water you speak of is gone after a few days. And are you saying you cap all your installs with metal capping Mr real sparks?