The FC-31 Gyrfalcon: China’s “Other” Stealth Fighter

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  • @megaprojects9649
    @megaprojects9649  Рік тому +38

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      @pauloalvesdesouza7911 Рік тому

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      @rawdog7220 Рік тому

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    • @scottdoesntmatter4409
      @scottdoesntmatter4409 Рік тому

      Gee, China making a blatant knockoff of USA products? Say it isn't so!

    • @mohamedmohamud9691
      @mohamedmohamud9691 7 місяців тому +1

      Good question. The F 35 failed and is a white elephant project, unable to prove it's airworthiness now the Americans are brewing another funny story. In most cases it cannot be relied upon leave along diving in the sea!!!

    • @FrogtheRED001
      @FrogtheRED001 26 днів тому

      China build a big flying metal scrap, it's look like very good war plane and it's totally perfect in paperwork without effectiveness. This weakness cause serious problem in industry and measurements instruments tools. Stealth not working, electronic warfare is trash without proven war. They build some trash 😅😅😅😅😅

  • @aburetik4866
    @aburetik4866 Рік тому +471

    My question is can J31 dive into the ocean and become a submarine like F35

  • @martinstallard2742
    @martinstallard2742 Рік тому +100

    1:36 origins and development
    7:29 white elephant to the production line
    12:35 specs, operation, and future

    • @diogeneslantern18
      @diogeneslantern18 Рік тому +10

      The only important timestamp is when the sponsor ends.

  • @wyattterrell
    @wyattterrell Рік тому +132

    China- “hey bro I didn’t study last night and there is a test coming let me copy?

    • @easonhuang7117
      @easonhuang7117 Рік тому +16

      Now do Turkish TF-X, Korean KF-X and India's AMCA. 🤣🤣

    • @easonhuang7117
      @easonhuang7117 Рік тому +1

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    • @easonhuang7117
      @easonhuang7117 Рік тому +1

      @@TimothyOakes BTW, do you remember how 3 grown Christian scums and 3 little Christian scums got shot to pieces of smelly meat in Nashville by a transgender freedom fighter? 🤣🤣
      Damn, the scene must be so satisfying! 💪💪

    • @mightym
      @mightym Рік тому +11

      Simon whistler: "I dont know this stuff at all and I need to put a vid out, I'll just copy 3 year old videos and noone will know"

    • @gunbacker9428
      @gunbacker9428 Рік тому +6

      @@mightym Mightym - "I believe these videos are low effort and Simon doesn't know what he's talking about but I still waste my time watching them."

  • @HeavenlyMandate
    @HeavenlyMandate Рік тому +202

    Hello Simon, a bit of trivia. The J-31 is not going to compete with J-20 no more. J-20 is predominantly very long range fighter while J-31 is going to enter as carrier fighter for upcoming Type 003 and 4 carrier.

    • @Rosawww
      @Rosawww Рік тому +2

      But some source said they will copie f35 and make 2 more version. One for airforce and another navy with vertical

    • @williamritchie693
      @williamritchie693 Рік тому

      Yeah no. In no way will it be stealthy and as effective as the USA. Because…. They did not develop it themselves. China copied it like everything else.

    • @bjm9923
      @bjm9923 Рік тому +29

      ​@@Rosawww We don't need a VTOL version of J-35 because our marine is a part of navy, unlike USMC which is forbidden to operate their own carriers with catapult or EMALS by US Navy. It's a political thing. Incoming Type 076 amphibious assault ship will equip same EMALS like Type 003 Fujian carrier, which means it can carry normal J-35/J-15 like other conventional / nuclear carriers.

    • @Rosawww
      @Rosawww Рік тому

      @@bjm9923 wouldnt it make sense to deploy j35 all across china tho?

    • @makemetallichydrogen426
      @makemetallichydrogen426 Рік тому +16

      @@Rosawww We will build the 4th and 5th aircraft carriers in the next 5 years, but the J20 will not be able to operate on aircraft carriers, so we will also need to build a lot of small stealth fighters to carry out ocean-going operations for them.

  • @mohammadusman6525
    @mohammadusman6525 Рік тому +199

    FC31 has had at least 3 different design iterations
    The latest variant J35 is significantly different from the original variant

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Рік тому

      I always find it funny how people (especially chinese and russian keyboard warriors and nationalists) will mock the US for "wasteful" things like making different variants of the same jet like it's some stupid idea when China and Russia will either do the same or at least attempt to do the same. It's the same with aircraft carriers: Chinese nationalists and media talk about how aircraft carriers are obsolete in the age of hypersonic missiles and suicide drones... yet China is desperately copying American aircraft carrier tech and Russia keeps attempting to build even a fraction of the carriers of the US.

    • @reis1185
      @reis1185 Рік тому +2

      Forgot to mention that China has a new 6th generation fighter jet

    • @shiyian
      @shiyian Рік тому +23

      @@reis1185 nope

    • @rbl-fq1uz
      @rbl-fq1uz Рік тому

      Didn't see this message

    • @misplacedstarman5455
      @misplacedstarman5455 Рік тому +12

      ​@@reis1185- No, they don't.

  • @tonbopro
    @tonbopro Рік тому +23

    J10-J20,J11-J31,J15-J35, considering Chengdu and Shenyang are of their own classifications

    • @Nordy941
      @Nordy941 3 місяці тому

      Awesome never looked at it like that before

  • @DucaTech
    @DucaTech Рік тому +109

    It's no longer FC-31, later J-31, and now redesignated as J-35 for their CATOBAR carriers.

    • @user-fs9kc1vo4o
      @user-fs9kc1vo4o Рік тому +10

      J35

    • @johndawson6057
      @johndawson6057 Рік тому +4

      Crazy how shit changes in the span of a few days

    • @aamerjamal
      @aamerjamal Рік тому +6

      Actually fc31 is designated for land takeoff jet which plaaf still have no plans once they buy it it's official name change into j31...
      While j35 is officially designated name for carrier based version.. Coz plan buy for its carrier...

    • @randomka-52alligatorthatis34
      @randomka-52alligatorthatis34 Рік тому +7

      @@johndawson6057 Least Chaotic Military Equipment Procurement lol.

    • @marvinfok65
      @marvinfok65 Рік тому

      Is the J-35 designation confirmed by the Chinese authority?

  • @ZarghamDaddy8293
    @ZarghamDaddy8293 8 місяців тому +9

    17:35 well this did age well . As Pakistan is now inducting this jet ' You analysis prove to be right !

  • @jazz.560
    @jazz.560 Рік тому +18

    Quick correction it will fly along side of the J 15 much like the F 35 flies along side the FA 18

  • @suberchen3604
    @suberchen3604 Рік тому +27

    At the beginning, the J-20 was competing with the J-14, which was also a twin-engined heavy fighter.

    • @gwsheipang
      @gwsheipang Рік тому

      I wonder what J14 look like.

    • @zzZHua
      @zzZHua 8 місяців тому

      No j14 fighter

    • @625as-pj5mg
      @625as-pj5mg 25 днів тому

      @@gwsheipang Three-wing aircraft with an emphasis on maneuverability. And it's not called J14, it's called Snowy Owl.

    • @625as-pj5mg
      @625as-pj5mg 25 днів тому

      @@zzZHua Three-wing aircraft with an emphasis on maneuverability. And it's not called J14, it's called Snowy Owl.

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 Рік тому +6

    1:40 - Chapter 1 - Origins & development
    2:55 - Mid roll ads
    4:10 - Back to the video
    7:35 - Chapter 2 - White elephant to the production line
    12:40 - Chapter 3 - Specs , operation & future

  • @bilalsaeed8697
    @bilalsaeed8697 26 днів тому +1

    FC 31 seems miraculous addition to the arsenal of 5th Generation Aircrafts in the Chinese Air Force

  • @hksy2k
    @hksy2k 8 місяців тому +4

    Pakistan knows when to ally with someone when it needs discounted top planes. First the f16 in 80s and now this in possibly next 6-7 years.
    Pakistan is opting for ws19 engine version instead of ws 13 one.
    This will also force india to make a move for 5th gen fighters.
    They will most likely go to ruasia as us f35 will have conditions and not mention a kill switch.
    Pakistan whole fleet will be Chinese aircrafts. J10c, jf17 and now j31/j35. Not bad.

  • @AlreadyTakenTag
    @AlreadyTakenTag Рік тому +53

    All this progress in aviaton technology really makes you think when will the first fighter aircraft capable of space travel arrive. I'd say next century.

    • @4lyfMotorhead
      @4lyfMotorhead Рік тому +2

      Funny to think we will survive until the next century. I say it's time for the monkeys to have a go at this.

    • @RHCole
      @RHCole Рік тому +5

      Way too far on the future, the air force has already been working on a space plane for awhile now. We'll have a functional model in 20 years, TOPS.

    • @OnlySubhumansWorkAtYouTube
      @OnlySubhumansWorkAtYouTube Рік тому +1

      Ok clown!

    • @Toadaboticus
      @Toadaboticus Рік тому +7

      Given that the MiG-29 Fulcrum a 4th gen fighter was capable of edge of space capabilities at a 22km altitude limit. There no reason to not believe that unmanned platforms and other classified platforms already can.

    • @yeee17
      @yeee17 Рік тому

      ​@@4lyfMotorhead we will, stop being pessimistic lmao, nuclear war will simply never happen, world leaders are too smart and careful to blow the planet up, other matters like what? Global warming? Nah, if that was an actual threat world governments would have definitely fixed it already, they know it isn't a big big threat, another threat like what? Asteroids? Highly unlikely for one big one to hit earth, even if one of them was coming to earth by 30-40 years space technology about deflecting asteroids would have advanced enough, NASA is researching it right now, we are definitely surviving

  • @ShahabJadoon
    @ShahabJadoon 8 місяців тому +12

    2 days ago Pakistan Air Chief announced soon induction of "FC-31 Chinese fifth-generation aircraft"
    Pakistan will become the first nation in the region to have a fifth-gen fighter!

    • @ZohaibwydR
      @ZohaibwydR 4 місяці тому +1

      Pakistan Zindabad ❤

    • @user-sh5kf4jj5p
      @user-sh5kf4jj5p 25 днів тому +3

      中国🇨🇳巴基斯坦🇵🇰友谊万岁

    • @AmirKhan-tp4qr
      @AmirKhan-tp4qr 19 днів тому

      ​@@user-sh5kf4jj5p✊🇨🇳🇵🇰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰✌️

  • @andrewharpin6749
    @andrewharpin6749 Рік тому +36

    I doubt the ceiling is 60,000m, but 60,000ft.
    60,000m is ~197,000ft, so roughly 100,000ft above the SR71's service ceiling

    • @xsu-is7vq
      @xsu-is7vq Рік тому +3

      60000m would makes it almost a space craft

    • @wenbo595
      @wenbo595 Рік тому +4

      16000 he said.

    • @skyserf
      @skyserf Рік тому +8

      13:13 He says 16,000M. The graphic shows 17,000M.

  • @dioncrown5966
    @dioncrown5966 Рік тому +41

    This is one of the coolest looking fighter jets created.
    ... maybe because it looks like a mix between the F-35 and the F-22.

    • @icanreadthebible7561
      @icanreadthebible7561 Рік тому

      2 different groups of spies.

    • @generalgabrielsatori
      @generalgabrielsatori Рік тому +7

      Asian designs always have something very special in them, including aircrafts and ships. People say that the J-35 is a copy, sure, learn no one better than your enemy, but if you look closely, you can see a lot of elegant lines on the design, making it distinctive from its western rivals.

    • @michaelpelzek8882
      @michaelpelzek8882 Рік тому +2

      ​@@generalgabrielsatoriugh yeah no. Evening China makes is a bootleg copy of Russia or American jets.

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 Рік тому

      ​@@michaelpelzek8882 don't forget France or Israel. The copy from everybody. Whatever they think useful.

    • @michaelpelzek8882
      @michaelpelzek8882 Рік тому

      @@danielch6662 We take some from Israel it goes vice versa. What bothers me is France because there a flaky 'ally" at best.

  • @henrypotter3024
    @henrypotter3024 Рік тому +36

    If I wanted to be able to detect a stealth aircraft, having several terabytes of data on it is going to be helpful.

    • @rabidmidgeecosse1336
      @rabidmidgeecosse1336 Рік тому +18

      its worth bearing in mind that detecting and doing something are very different things. Stealth planes are not invisible, but they are very hard to convince a weapons lock radar to fire at it.

    • @SeamusCameron
      @SeamusCameron Рік тому +23

      @@rabidmidgeecosse1336 - "Fire at that aircraft!"
      "That's not an aircraft, that's clearly a hummingbird moving at... about Mach 2. Silly human."
      *Boom*

    • @omniexistus
      @omniexistus 2 місяці тому

      😂

    • @omniexistus
      @omniexistus 2 місяці тому

      China:
      LET ME COPY

  • @One_foot_in_the_Grave
    @One_foot_in_the_Grave Рік тому +38

    I have watched your videos for a few years now, I don't know when it happened or what made you choose to do so many focusing on military equipment/ history but thank fuck you did. I love your style and delivery and it suits the subject matter for people of a certain age ! Thank you from Canada !

    • @jazz.560
      @jazz.560 Рік тому +2

      Do other research as well. He often makes little mistakes.

    • @harryparsons2750
      @harryparsons2750 Рік тому

      How come you and some others can swear in the comments and not have UA-cam delete it.

    • @randal3122
      @randal3122 8 місяців тому

      ​@@harryparsons2750 you can say fuck and nothing happens

  • @Liam_219
    @Liam_219 7 місяців тому +1

    I hate how every single Chinese stealth fighter is compared to American fighters as a “copy” because if you look at every single 5th gen fighter design almost every one looks exactly the same. Korea and turkeys fighters look way closer to the F-22 than this looks to any American stealth fighter, but nobody ever says anything about them

  • @BigDaddy-yp4mi
    @BigDaddy-yp4mi Рік тому +19

    The number of wheels under (and carried with, in flight) a plane is to do with load spreading and controllability under blowout conditions. There are plenty Russian planes with dual front wheels that never have and were never thought to see a carrier. It was for rough terrain takeoff and according to the Russians themselves, a single front wheel could not safely carry the load of the plane. It's the reason semi-tractor trailers (18 wheelers) and the mega loads they move where they have a gazillion tires.....its for safety margin and load spreading. In airplanes, there are many dual nose gear planes that will NEVER see a carrier. There are even planes that have not (publicly acknowledged at least) landed on a carrier that have tail hooks- the F-15 for example, because she's a big girl and lost brakes and such mean a controllability problem. I mention this because even a tail hook doesn't guarantee carrier-bound intentions. Dual nose gears are found all over the world on land-locked planes and weight is usually THE determining factor.

    • @ronjon7942
      @ronjon7942 9 місяців тому

      But in this case, the carrier connection makes more sense as the gross weight and especially the weight of the fore area are low, certainly similar to the F-35.

  • @rawdog7220
    @rawdog7220 Рік тому +68

    It looks like they took the overall airodynamic / stealthy shape and engine configuration of the F22, and combined this with the payload / hardpoint design of the F35. It's litterally a combo of the two.... at least on the outside.

    • @danwelterweight4137
      @danwelterweight4137 Рік тому +29

      You obviously don't know anything about planes to even say such a silly comment.
      Engines, softwares, computers, aerodynamic, designs, skin of both planes are completely different.
      Even the landing gears are different.
      Missions of both planes are also completely different.
      One is going to be a carrier multirole warplanes. The other is an air superiority warplanes.

    • @Jay-jb2vr
      @Jay-jb2vr Рік тому +10

      *Sheesh....chill out*

    • @tiberianexcalibur
      @tiberianexcalibur Рік тому +8

      Guns around the world takes designs from each other too

    • @aamerjamal
      @aamerjamal Рік тому +2

      ​@@danwelterweight4137no actually it's same as f35... The fc31 is like f35a for while j3ť is carrier based like f35... For pure Is dominance it's hard to see any airforce want any such jets.. The long range bvrs can fill such gaps..

    • @spugged9800
      @spugged9800 Рік тому

      @@tiberianexcalibur could say the same about text and published writings, but this one is plagiarism.

  • @tomweather8887
    @tomweather8887 Рік тому +129

    Imagine trying to tell an enemy force that they can't steal information from you.

    • @aburetik4866
      @aburetik4866 Рік тому +48

      2 food stamps awarded by J. Bden for your patriotic comment

    • @ihorhrynyk9439
      @ihorhrynyk9439 Рік тому +23

      kid with discord: hold my invite link

    • @josephsmith6777
      @josephsmith6777 Рік тому +4

      But if it comes with consequences how's china's semiconductor market right now t

    • @Socialist1919
      @Socialist1919 Рік тому +5

      They’re trying to cope

    • @ojogbaneamedu2501
      @ojogbaneamedu2501 Рік тому +4

      @@josephsmith6777 Fine, the entire industry is going through a recession worldwide rn so about as bad as everyone else.

  • @dogeboi1804
    @dogeboi1804 11 місяців тому +57

    This makes China the only country in the world to have a 5th Generation stealth fighter AND free health care. Absolutely fenomenal 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @wooden2187
      @wooden2187 11 місяців тому

      *build

    • @deadchewie
      @deadchewie 11 місяців тому +8

      Free health care at the cost of ALL OF YOUR OTHER FREEDOMS......what a deal.

    • @wind-stone
      @wind-stone 11 місяців тому +28

      @@deadchewiethis is such a huge misconception. Go spend some time in China and you’d see. You might even feel more free there than you do here.

    • @deadchewie
      @deadchewie 11 місяців тому +3

      @@wind-stone I might, but I doubt it.

    • @espionage84
      @espionage84 11 місяців тому +15

      ​@@deadchewiefreedom to loot without consequences like in LA. No thanks. I'd rather have the Chinese freedom to know that I can be out alone late at night and nothing will happen to me.

  • @TheGillhicks
    @TheGillhicks Рік тому +18

    Excellent episode. Can you do a video about the Water way from Lake Superior to the Atlantic Ocean. I’d appreciate it.

  • @The136th
    @The136th Рік тому +1

    J-20 is Air Superiority not multi-role. Also the J-20 Canard design doesn't affect it's stealth (Stealth X-36 has canards), saying the J-20 is not stealth because of Canards make you sounds ignorant.
    FC-31 is for carrier and export.

  • @evilraskal5323
    @evilraskal5323 Рік тому +20

    I think it's less bootleg and more limited by the dimensions of remaining stealth. Especially when trying to get the smallest radar signature possible will lead you all to end up at similar dimensions. Like if I draw an elephant and you draw an elephant, chances are we'd be accused of copying each other. It's one thing to build a plane and it ends up similar. It's another If you're trying to achieve stealth fighter status. A dimension that is much more limiting so as to send back a radar signature

    • @tiberianexcalibur
      @tiberianexcalibur Рік тому +6

      It’s like guns. The functions are the same and guns copy from one another all the time

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 Рік тому +1

      so you can eyeball a aircraft R.D.S by just look at a picture ? amazing😂😂😂😂😂

    • @evilraskal5323
      @evilraskal5323 Рік тому +10

      @@jetli740 I made it as simple as possible for even the layman to understand as I could. Did it go over your head still? Must’ve.

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 Рік тому

      @@evilraskal5323 yeah edit your comment
      make perfect sense 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @evilraskal5323
      @evilraskal5323 Рік тому

      @@jetli740 wtf you on about? I edited when I originally posted you self inflating fool. My original post is still the same. You’re just trying to attribute nothing to something hoping to inflate your sense of worth. Unfortunately, if you need to tell yourself something happened when it didn’t, you probably need real special help… Or spend some time training your memory or grasp of the king’s English. Maybe 🤔 your google translate isn’t translating the data as a whole and you got a partial response. 🤷‍♀️ Who knows. Maybe you just skimmed through and missed certain parts and just noticed it now.
      But I still believe it is just as I stated, must’ve gone well over your head and kicked you up the backside like a jet ✈️ li kick 🦵 would do. 🤪

  • @atlasgaming1300
    @atlasgaming1300 Рік тому +16

    Great video! I would like to see a video on the Costa Concordia. I’m not sure if this is necessarily a mega project or more of an infographics thing but I would love to see it!

    • @oliverwells8011
      @oliverwells8011 Рік тому +5

      Check out "internet historian" video about the Costa Concordia... I promise you will not regret it, it's extremely funny

    • @--_DJ_--
      @--_DJ_-- Рік тому +1

      @@oliverwells8011 Even better than that, the Asmongold reacts to that video, double the fun.

  • @onegemini420
    @onegemini420 Рік тому +7

    What it has under the hood is always a big question. From what I have heard from an experienced combat pilot, is that you can get a bit of an idea from what the pilot did at the air show. Her particularly noted the amount of black smoke you could see from the jet engines. He commented that it looks like they may not have the fuel-air mixture quite right and the smoke is especially notable in maneuvers where the pilot is going to suddenly push the engines to higher output for the maneuver.
    Obviously, this does not mean they have not solved the issue or have more advanced engines now. But as I understand it, the engine issue was also a reason the J-20s have performance issues.

    • @Jkl62200
      @Jkl62200 Рік тому +4

      The fc31/j35 will be fitted with brand new ws19 engines. The demos were fitted with the Russian rd93 which is Well known to spit out black smokes.

    • @onegemini420
      @onegemini420 Рік тому +1

      @@Jkl62200 Yes and hopefully that will improve the aircraft's performance so it can actually take off with full loads of fuel and munitions.
      The F-35 has around 1,000 operational craft now? Has also actually been in combat sorites and has proven itself. But it seems a lot of people want to comment on how the chinese aircraft is equal to or superior to the F-35/F-22.
      Yet all we hear is it will eventually get new engines. It's kind of like those who claimed the SU-57 would be an F-22 killer. The SU-57 is a pretty plane and certainly capable But some of it's flaws are clearly visible in regards to its stealth performance. Meanwhile people are already claiming the Checkmate will be better than Western aircraft.
      Yet these claims people make are based on what the specs are on paper or in the case of this Chinese Aircraft on future engines it has not been received yet and is unproven.
      I am not saying that the Russian and Chinese Aircraft will not be capable and deadly. They may even be a match for Western aircraft. I just find it funny that people see the Gyrfalcon perform at an airshow and read the specs on paper already stating the aircraft is better.
      When those jets are deployed for 18 months and gone on 1,300 combat sorties
      then they can compare. (The U.S. Air Force deployed the F-35 to the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility for 18 consecutive months and the jet delivered operationally: 42 jets, 1,100 airmen, 1,319 sorties, 352 total weapons dropped and 3,774 25MM rounds expended.)
      The Chinese and Russian jets look pretty in airshows. But let's not compare them to actually proven combat vehicles. I mean where has the SU-57 been in Ukraine?
      That all being said. You are right the Chinese aircraft are supposed to get new Chinese-made engines instead of using those older Russian ones. So hopefully that actually helps the planes perform as intended AND they get the mixture right so you do not see those telltale signs of black smoke.
      I personally think the J-20 looks like a BUS. One of the uglier jets I have seen and people have commented that it is not as maneuverable. The Fc-31 is actually a visually stunning plane and what it says it can do on paper is impressive.
      I get why people cannot help but compare. Americans are already talking about the NGAD and how it will dominate the skies and make all the advancements China and Russia have made obsolete. But until they have the NGAD operational and performing to what we have been told, It's a far cry from a match for a Fokker DR 1 Tri-plane, let alone anything else.

    • @Jkl62200
      @Jkl62200 Рік тому +1

      @@onegemini420 a few corrections. It is the J15 that cannot take off with full load off a ski jump carrier, not the upcoming fc31/j35 (even with the Rd93) . Also, NONE of the 5th Gen aircraft today is 'battle tested', including the f35 which itself is plagued with all kinds of issues till today. I agree that we should not pass judgment on planes that are not in service yet but it is also not a good idea for the US to hype up it's gears. That's also based on nothing. Overall, you seem quite dismissive and salty about any non-American planes. Underestimating your adversary is a fatal sin in war.

    • @onegemini420
      @onegemini420 Рік тому +3

      @@Jkl62200 As I understood the J-20 had issues taking off with full load also. But I thank you for the correction.
      However, you are incorrect the F-35 has been combat tested. As I stated in my comment, 42 F-35s to US Central command have gone on over 1300 combat sorties expending ordinance on targets.
      Also did you not read my comment? Salty and Dismissive? I SPECIFICALLY praised them as advanced and capable fighters. I just stated that they are not up to par with F-22s and F-35s. The issues plaguing the F-35 have been mostly rectified and it will be on the Block 4 iteration. I NEVER stated the F-35 was perfect or did not have issues.
      I even stated that the FC-31 and the SU-57 were beautiful aircraft. The J-20 I think is ugly, but I did not take away from its abilities. I simply stated as many experts have pointed out that the J-20 seems less maneuverable than the other "peer" aircraft it would be facing. That can be said of the F-35 as well. While they CAN dogfight, these aircraft would prefer not to, especially up against something like an SU-57 or F-22.
      I also said that when China gets its homemade engines instead of using the Russian ones, hopefully, that will correct a lot of the performance issues of its newest fighters. Again actually AGREEING with you. that those engines should give a substantial upgrade to Chinese aircraft to perform better.
      As for the SU-57, I also gave credit. But Russia seems to have exaggerated its capabilities. It has exposed screws and obvious airframe design issues that would mean it is not as stealthy as Western "peer" aircraft.
      I also stated that the F-35 has had around 1,000 produced aircraft sold to multiple nations. With actual combat sorties under its belt. China has around 150 J-20s? So they have almost as many J-20s as the US has F-22s. Just because I believe the F-22 is a far superior aircraft to the J-20 does not mean the J-20 is not capable, but China hardly has it in numbers, there are questions on exactly how stealthy it is as well. Most analysts believe the J-20 is low observable with a smaller RCS than the 4th gen and older. Expert assessments of the J-20’s radar cross-section place it somewhere between .08 and .3 square meters. This places it well ahead of Russia’s Su-57 in a head-on comparison (RCS varied depending on the angle from which the aircraft is observed), but well behind both of America’s stealth fighters.
      Again though I never put down the capabilities I simply stated that they are still not up to par with US stealth aircraft as far as RCS. I pointed out some issues with the engines which you acknowledged was because they were using the older Russian engines. So again not salty or dismissive. I even said when they get the new engines it hopefully will solve those issues.
      The only thing I stated was that those praising the FC-31 as being just as good or better than the peers it is up against is that it as of yet is unproven and not built in large numbers. I even stated Americans do the same when they talk about the NGAD. It looks great on paper or as an experimental craft. But until it is made in numbers with a history to judge them by, anyone saying they are the equivalent of the F-22 or F-35 is speculating. So how am I salty or dismissive?
      I do not know why you are having an attitude calling me salty and dismissive. I was having a civil conversation. I also am secure enough to understand I do not know everything and can make mistakes. As I confused the issue with taking off at full capacity between the J-20 and J-15. Though I thought they both had those issues because of the older engines. As I said I know China has new engines of their own not Russian-made, that should solve their engine issues.
      A word of advice. These are comments and maybe you are reading too much into them. But before you call someone salty and dismissive, you might want to consider that we are all just sharing thoughts. There was no need for you to make those faulty assumptions.

    • @matthewschneider8075
      @matthewschneider8075 11 місяців тому

      @@onegemini420Let’s hope China and Russia fail to keep up otherwise these arguments are mute. It somewhat irritates me how our defense contractors are cannot prevent cyberattacks from stealing technology that has obviously benefited adversaries of the US. Makes me glad the US has the 2nd amendment as a fail safe and deterrent if we lose our military edge.

  • @ericliume
    @ericliume Рік тому +18

    You need to check a FC-31 variant J-35, which is under testing and will be equipped to their carries.

  • @stevenh.5181
    @stevenh.5181 Місяць тому

    Using the F-35, as a Bumb Truck ,would be like using a skateboard as a Dump Truck. .?
    Build a hi-tech plane and then make it ,standout like a battleship in the sky 😳😳😱

  • @james_the_darklord
    @james_the_darklord Рік тому +17

    Hats off to the Chinese for being very good hackers 😂

  • @VVV-DamoP21
    @VVV-DamoP21 Рік тому +13

    Simon, you've done a video on the F-35 but not on the F-22 Raptor? Any chance on getting one?

    • @jordanr.4150
      @jordanr.4150 Рік тому +1

      ikr i’ve been hoping for that video since this channel started, he mentioned having already made it on the F-15 (i think) video, but that came out a while ago:(

  • @shaxu12
    @shaxu12 8 місяців тому +6

    Pakistan airforce has seen your video and now they’re officially purchasing FC31 😂

  • @michaeldawson6791
    @michaeldawson6791 Рік тому +5

    Can we talk about your audio volume? I'm not sure why this happens, but in the car listing to other long form videos and volume is fine. I can barely hear Simon when he comes on even with volume all the way up. Until he starts shilling for a sponsor, that is. That I can hear! And the UA-cam commercials, those are fine.

  • @BladeTheWatcher
    @BladeTheWatcher Рік тому +4

    Sheet Underwear! Now that is something substantial to advertise! Good job! :D

  • @zaco-km3su
    @zaco-km3su 9 місяців тому +2

    Worth saying that Western assessments that consider the Su-57 and J-20 as "not true 5th generation fighters" might be proven to be bs. Why? Those assessments have no backing. I do expect that there will be some humiliating moments for Western experts and for the Western military at some point. Arrogance appears to be a feature.

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Simon and co !

  • @ohlawd3699
    @ohlawd3699 8 місяців тому +1

    Basically, it's a hybrid copy of the F-22 and F-35 but the J-20 is more of a hybrid copy between the Mig 1.44 and the F-22. I bet they were probably thinking, "why not just copy the best fighters in the world (or what they presume to be the best) and just mix them all together to make the ultimate fighter?" Unfortunately for them however, that's not how reality works, lol. 😂

  • @awesom6588
    @awesom6588 Рік тому +15

    A lot of stupid people will compare the aircraft to the F35 and say they copied it. The reality is that you can only have one ideal geometry for stealth, geometry is 90% of what makes an aircraft stealthy, not the materials. So of course it looks similar, they are both designed to be stealthy and do the same job lol

    • @coreysuh6502
      @coreysuh6502 Рік тому +2

      Ya that’s complete BS. There are varies different shapes that can effectively reduce radar cross section and RAM definitely is a significant factor that affects radar return. A key design feature that is taken directly from the F-35 is the forward hinged canopy. Despite the engineering challenges and inefficiencies that come with that mechanism, the F-35 was designed with it because of the lift fan on the B variant. There’s no clear reason the J-31 would require it, which is why you see it’s removal in the more mature variants

    • @factsoverfeelings1776
      @factsoverfeelings1776 11 місяців тому +5

      They did not "copy" they simply stole the data....

    • @chongzhouliu7893
      @chongzhouliu7893 8 місяців тому

      @@factsoverfeelings1776 Oh no, you caught me, Batman

    • @dodgedemonsrtx
      @dodgedemonsrtx 7 місяців тому

      ​@@factsoverfeelings1776so what? What are u gonna do about it?

  • @jonathanwatson1054
    @jonathanwatson1054 Рік тому +20

    Will there be a 4/5 gen fighter combo? A wolf pack tactic in the sky? Sure that's a flight of F 15EX but you didn't detect the 2 flights of NGAD to either side.

    • @EmpperorThor2211
      @EmpperorThor2211 Рік тому +7

      Pretty sure the NGAD is supposed to be 6th gen

    • @daniyardilimulati8420
      @daniyardilimulati8420 Рік тому +8

      If you’re referring to china, they’re doing that right now, with the J-20 leading the way and the J-16/10 mopping the floor after it

    • @seaofenergy2765
      @seaofenergy2765 Рік тому +7

      Thats the current strategy for f35s operating alongside 4th gen fighters. Essentially acting as stealthy target detection and acquisition for the 4th gen fighters further back who can then fire from ranges that they cant be targeted themselves.
      Stealth aircraft firing missiles become very targetable while doing so, so this strategy allows them to stay untargetable for as long as possible.
      Its worth noting that even stealth aircraft can be seen on certain types of radar, but where they excel is in being much harder to actually target/get a lock on to.

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 Рік тому

      i think drones will take over F15ex role very soon

  • @franklinkz2451
    @franklinkz2451 Рік тому +47

    So this makes china officially 30+ years behind the US if this is a F22 knock off?

    • @granatmof
      @granatmof Рік тому

      ​@@mill2712 thanks to Russia invading Ukraine, they will be.

    • @bschell1969
      @bschell1969 Рік тому +8

      Yep, our next one is already underway too. Good luck taking Taiwan!

    • @kcl5038
      @kcl5038 Рік тому +14

      Best way to get more sales for the F-35 is for China to field a true fifth gen fighter. I have my doubts about the stealth capabilities and the ability for China to maintain stealth capable aircraft. But I'm sure the US will be more than willing to hype up that boogeyman anyway.

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 Рік тому

      @@kcl5038
      How to screw Sweden and France over in one simple step.

    • @armandoventura9043
      @armandoventura9043 Рік тому +1

      Yep, because stealing information is not the same as developing from scratch yourself

  • @aramaljanadi1295
    @aramaljanadi1295 Рік тому +9

    A video about the Su57 would be lovely

    • @Sciguy95
      @Sciguy95 Рік тому +2

      He keeps referring to a video about it but I've never been able to find it.

    • @Srelde
      @Srelde Рік тому

      There's one person at Whistleboy Broadcast Network who knows what there is and isn't a video about, and they didn't get to go through this or the R&D Deep Dive videos before they were released

  • @quantum_dongle
    @quantum_dongle Рік тому +238

    I'm sorry but having 5th gen fighters under development 20 years after the US deployed theirs into service and STILL not being able to match the stealth characteristics is not an achievement.

    • @granatmof
      @granatmof Рік тому

      Compared to what European Allies and Russia have fielded it is.
      China is looking to be a regional military power enough to keep the US out of its business. No country can currently outspend on the skilled workers overwhelming US air design. The Soviets couldn't keep up.
      China just needs to be recognized as a near peer capable of threatening the American carrier and staving off American aerial dominance and being able to bombard airbases of regional American allies. Their man made islands operate as near unsinkable carriers and anti ship platforms.
      China has spent somewhere between the last 30 to 40 years learning everything there is avialble to learn and then some unavailable on fielding a competent military, with some caveats.
      The US and western Allies have cultivated a culture of tactical competency among their Jr office and NCOs. This allows units all the way down to the platoon size to seize tactical advantages outside the scope of their explicit orders. Russian units in contrast lack that capacility. Ukraine shifting Soviet Era tactics and training to western reflect the bend from a Soviet Era of centralized autocratic power to greater democratic power. China is still very much an autocratic power, and it remains to be seen if they are training units to the tactical competency to make choices in the field. China has not fought in any wars to demonstrate one way or another. But I suspect from their bureaucratic civil structure that they don't.
      The interesting thing is with the US trending to more autocratic tendencies from the right, strategically the US risks losing that advantage. If your citizenry is capable of organized protests and political movements, they're capable of tactical command when given training. If not then they're not. Parties that make dissent punishable and illegal are inherently anti-American.

    • @Hillbilly001
      @Hillbilly001 Рік тому +17

      LOL! Ya think. Well said. Cheers

    • @yuning8045
      @yuning8045 Рік тому +9

      but still way ahead of everyone else,

    • @Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63
      @Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63 Рік тому

      Oh and then there is the fact China still can't build quality jet engines. Do you think the electronics are competetive with the West? I don't. Air Show aircraft more than anything else.

    • @Justintm
      @Justintm Рік тому +51

      But who else has genuine 5th gen fighters in numbers? Other than the US, None of these G7 nations. And they suppose to represent the most advanced economies. So the fact that China has not one but another 5th gen in development is pretty amazing.

  • @wk7337
    @wk7337 Рік тому +4

    If you can get enough research and stuff to talk about this then there is definitely enough info to talk about the AT802u also known as the OA1K a continuation of the A-1 sky raider. It’s the air forces first tail dragger since vietnam and will provide CAS to spec ops

  • @Moye...786.
    @Moye...786. 4 місяці тому +1

    Big fan of you sir from Kashmir,

  • @smk1795
    @smk1795 29 днів тому +1

    Chinese stole f35, US stole f35 design from Soviet Yak 141
    Karma goes in circle

    • @Alf-mg9wz
      @Alf-mg9wz 14 днів тому

      China stole designs. US purchased them. Get a clue magoo.

    • @smk1795
      @smk1795 13 днів тому

      @@Alf-mg9wz its stupid to expect your adversary to play by the rules.
      US follows exact rogue ways when it wishes to.

  • @Vostadues
    @Vostadues Рік тому +6

    About FC31 looks like F35 because of the hacking...
    FC31 is based on Shenyang's cancelled fighter development project that were gonna assume the serial number J-14 (mostly inspired by Mig 1.44), and the development project dates back to late 80s to early 90s, and cancelled in the early 2000s (before 04)... There were already leaked photo of a test build cockpit control panel of the cancelled J-14 project around 06, and the fighter outline on the testing screen shows mixed traits of current day J-10, J-20 and FC-31...
    And JSF project hacking were date at 09...
    That means Shenyang AC have to steal the data from 09 and time travel back to around 00, so they can use the data to develop FC31...
    Why they even bother doing so if they can really time travel?

    • @user-hl1bt9hw9s
      @user-hl1bt9hw9s Рік тому +3

      得了吧,没人会回复你的,他们只想相信他们想相信的

    • @get4084
      @get4084 Рік тому +1

      Interesting! Can you please post the source of this information?

  • @stevepumfrey8060
    @stevepumfrey8060 11 місяців тому +1

    U.s. created 5th generation aircraft but they never created fifth-generation ordinance to be carried I believe the j-20 isn't a stealthy. But probably stealthy enough to fire its extra long-range advanced missiles at surveillance aircraft .
    They appeared to have coming up with a good strategy remove our eyes and ears and long-range strikes on tanker aircraft. .

  • @Overneed-Belkan-Witch
    @Overneed-Belkan-Witch Рік тому +6

    It looks better than Chengdu J20
    love the design, mix of F22 Raptor and Ace Combat Nosferatu

  • @widdlewilly5893
    @widdlewilly5893 Рік тому +2

    I'm holding off on my Sheath order until Simon parades himself out and delivers an ad read in them

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 Рік тому

      what about Manscaped? does he need to trip his lawn in front of you?? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @demonsrexis
    @demonsrexis Рік тому +5

    Lets have some thought exercise:
    - if it is a stolen design that means US will know all the technical details, will the PLA dare to use it?
    - if the PLA still use it, does it mean they have some improvement that they are confident with?
    Again on the specifications:
    - do you think everyone is being honest about the real specs?
    I am not surprise if the US jets can have 50% extra thrust output boost afterburner function.

    • @SKubric
      @SKubric Рік тому

      most time China hides more information of the weapon specs

    • @demonsrexis
      @demonsrexis Рік тому

      @@SKubric are you saying Chinese weapon has more hidden features?
      I do not think your government is hiding less information about weaponry.

    • @angelkilier
      @angelkilier Рік тому +1

      I mean they might hide small details but F-35 is developed by so many countries together that keeping something secret is almost impossible.

  • @HaganeYoshi
    @HaganeYoshi Рік тому +6

    almost every single new 5th gen looks like the 35 and 22

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer Рік тому +2

      Su-57 and J-20 have some distinctive features - larger wing area and canards, respectively, for example.

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 Рік тому +6

      Your comment show you have zero understand how radar signal reflect of object.
      all stealth aircraft all have similar if not the same angle shape, there is so much you can do to make it different if you have to follow the basic angle

    • @georgesikimeti2184
      @georgesikimeti2184 Рік тому

      “basic angle”to maximise stealth doesn’t mean every 5th gen. looks the same,stealth still have a lot of refinements before it’s a perfect weapon and “ basic shape” is not one of them,6th gen. totally look different in shape and more stealthier yet far more rounder shape.

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 Рік тому

      @@georgesikimeti2184 5th gen use “basic angle” to maximise stealth radar reflection away from radar, 6 Gen yes it bit more rounder but it still follow the basic angle with round off and it deploy much more advance radar absortion material.

    • @georgesikimeti2184
      @georgesikimeti2184 Рік тому

      @@jetli740yeah more absorption radar material,not necessarily the shape.,f117 looks nothing like f35 or f22!and russia new 5th gen. is again vastly different in basic shape and yet reflect radar,again agree with you in basic shape scenario but not carbon copy shape format(j20 vs f22 or f35)

  • @whalehands
    @whalehands Рік тому +4

    Some of the most highly classified information and of course China is able to get their hands on some.

  • @daniyardilimulati8420
    @daniyardilimulati8420 Рік тому +23

    The amount of people here that has NO idea about how China’s aviation industry and air force works is amazing.

    • @Bagledog5000
      @Bagledog5000 Рік тому +3

      Feel free to enlighten us wise sage of YT.

    • @CulturalXplorer19
      @CulturalXplorer19 Рік тому

      ​@@Bagledog5000 wouldn't it be easier to do actual research before spreading nonsense? Lmfao.

    • @commie5211
      @commie5211 Рік тому +3

      @@Bagledog5000 he got the aircraft completely wrong, the set up is closer to rafale or F18 setup, other than F35 F22. might looks like F35/22. But the engine setup is more like duo F414, which means they will be in F18's class fighter.

    • @daniyardilimulati8420
      @daniyardilimulati8420 Рік тому +11

      @@Bagledog5000 To start off, contrary to some popular beliefs, China will never build something that will be completely useless that would end up as a headache for their armies (look at the LCA Tejas for the IAF). This was one of the reasons for why the FC-31 got the finger from the PLAAF (PLAN too but that’s important for later), because the J-20 already suffices their needs; They don’t want to expand their influence outwards (they can’t at that time anyway), so having one gen 5 to fend off all the other gen 5s around them (like Japan and South Korea’s F-35s) as well as have an advantage over the gen 4s is enough. In fact, that was one of the main design criterions of the J-20 as well: form a power equilibrium with dominant gen 5s, dominate over gen 4s. Aside from that, China’s aviation industry need to take care of their own army first before they sell planes abroad.
      And when one stealth fighter was enough, why do you need another one? Not to mention the FC-31 is a mediumweight, which means a good discount on effective combat range as well as payload compared to the heavyweight J-20. It’ll also take away key resources that would have been better off if used for the J-20 instead, only for a fighter with the aforementioned shortcomings, as well as making logistic support hell (for example the FC-31 uses F404-sized engines while the entire Chinese air force at that time ran on AL-31s and WS-10s).
      And second, about why the FC-31 even became a thing at all. Had it been China wanting to flex their “power” to the world, you’d expect them to dunk wads of cash for Shenyang’s FC-31, but of course they didn’t; FC-31 was privately funded. Why? Remember that the J-20 program was also born from a competition like the F-22, and Shenyang got the boot like Northrop with their YF-23. **The FC-31 materialized so that Shenyang won’t fall behind on technology knowhow.** They won’t be living off Flanker money forever, and they know that.
      Although the FC-31 also got the boot from the air force, the time is upon them now. Shenyang persisted, iterating the FC-31’s design over and over, and they found a future for the FC-31: onboard the Type 003. In 2012, the idea that China would have catapult carriers would be a joke, but five years later… not so much. PLAN also knew they can’t live off of J-15s forever, and they needed something against F-35Cs. The J-20 wouldn’t be an option, because it’d be too big and its nature closer to a high speed fighter-interceptor won’t suit carrier ops. That’s when the FC-31 suddenly got the spotlight: it’s just the right size, has a proven design like that of the F-35, and has been iterated on enough to be a completely new plane compared to the og FC-31. That’s where it is now: the supposed J-35.
      I hope this gave you a good insight on how things over there works. Have a good day

    • @playlistnor
      @playlistnor Рік тому +1

      @@daniyardilimulati8420 you are right except did they solved their engine issues? I mean the J15 is using russian engines reverse engineered. Just like the J20. Also other stuff is mostly reverse engineered tech stolen from all around the world. Is this another paper mache like their budget tanks? I know they have the money, but in the early 2000's they weren't even able to produce anything flyworthy on their own. Now they say they compete with high and products... Sounds fishy especially since they can't get top tier silicon anymore. Also still the engine problems they still using russian non stealth tech and even that is a gen older than russias own, or they stole something useful?

  • @richardrose7382
    @richardrose7382 Рік тому +5

    On a completely different note: have you looked into launching spacecraft with a large rail gun? Gerard O’NEIL proposed use such on the moon to get cheaper materials to lunar orbit, but it could certainly be used for other purposes…..space exploration without showy displays of extravagant fuel use

    • @paulhunter1735
      @paulhunter1735 Рік тому +1

      Exactly what kind of material would you use to construct a space vehicle to be launched into space by a rail gun? Can you imagine the G loading a rail gun of that size would put onto the craft? The current problem with rail guns is that they fire projectiles with such great speed that they melt their barrels after just a few shots. Now imagine trying to launch any type of space craft which would have to be unmanned into space at such a rate of acceleration. Not to mention how strong the cargo would have to be to withstand such a force during launch. Not to mention how large the rail gun would have to be and how much electrical power it would take to make it work lol. Don't think this would be possible or doable any time in the near future.

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican Рік тому +1

      You have 3 choices for launching from earth -
      1) Launch Rockets - showy & expensive, but effective;
      2) High-flying, Hypersonic aircraft (Mach 10 at 100 km) & Skyhooks;
      3) 1000 km long Launch Loop that would allow you to get into orbit without exceeding 3 g, which is necessary for human spaceflight. Isaac Arther describes just such a structure in a 5 year old video “Launch Loops” on SFIA.
      Sorry no link - UA-cam won’t let me post them, even when they allow others to do it.

  • @naumankisana
    @naumankisana 8 місяців тому +2

    Learnt more about the fucking underwear than the plane

  • @marknovak6498
    @marknovak6498 Рік тому +10

    China has some impressive-looking fighters. I do wonder how much is a real advantage and how much is bluster.

    • @scottdoesntmatter4409
      @scottdoesntmatter4409 Рік тому

      Gee, China making a blatant knockoff of USA products? Say it isn't so!

    • @tripod222
      @tripod222 Рік тому

      One thing I'd argue is that the idea of a J-20 going up against an F-35 isn't the point. The J-20 isn't as capable individually as F-22 or F-35, but the Chinese are still flying aircraft like the J-7 and J-10. So J-20 is there for quantitive reasons too. It is operational and continued production ensures that the entire Chinese fighter force can be equipped with modern hardware. I would also imagine that the J-31 or derivates might be cheaper than the J-20 and fullfil a similar role to the J-20 as the F-16 did to the F-15, lighter weight, cheaper but modern multi-purpose aircraft.
      As such, by 2030 or so, regardless of which Chinese fighter you'll encounter, it will be a modern design. And that is, I think, the advantage the PLA AF is going for.

    • @oot007
      @oot007 Рік тому +7

      @@tripod222 >"The J-20 isn't as capable individually as F-22 or F-35"
      Based on what? Your gut feeling?
      J20 has far larger range and it's missiles have around twice the range of F35, F22 and it's missiles.
      J20 ferry range is 5500km. F22 is 3000km. F35 is 2200km.
      J20's PL-15 missile estimated range of 200-300 km, PL-21 missile range is about 300km+
      F35/F22 AIM-120 missile range is 160km.
      J20 top speed is Mach 2.55. F22 top speed is Mach 2.2. F35 top speed is Mach 1.6.
      J20 service ceiling is 60,000 ft. F22 service ceiling is 50,000 ft. F35 service ceiling is 50,000 ft.
      J20 also has helmet mounted display to enable firing missiles at high off-boresight angle which the F22 does not have.
      J20 has 360 degree sensor and radar detection. The F22 does not.
      J20 will undergo more upgrades over time.
      F22 avionics is 20 years old.
      J20 is already more maneuverable than the J35 and that is before it's upcoming WS-15 thrust vectoring engine.
      WS-15 engine has 181 KN thrust. F22's engine has 156 KN thrust.
      J20 can supercruise. The F35 cannot sustain supercruise.
      In summary the J20 has superior range, missiles, avionics, engine thrust, speed, service ceiling, sensors and radar detection to the F22.
      In summary the J20 has superior range, missiles, speed, engine thrust and service ceiling to the F35. The comparison between it's avionics and sensors are unknown. However what has been reported is the the F35 had tons of bugs some of which have not been resolved and the F35 "Lightning II" has been restricted to NOT fly near lightning.
      Have you ever wondered why the F22 is being retired early?
      What metric did you use for your conclusion?

    • @tripod222
      @tripod222 Рік тому +4

      @@oot007 all good points, and I'm an interested lay person and don't claim to be the ultimate authority, this is just some friendly chat, so let's keep it that way.
      Some of the points you mentioned aren't as clear-cut or decisive as one might believe. Take the higher range Chinese missles, which the US has acknowledged as such, but new AIM-260s are being developed as we speak because of that, and while I don't have statistical data on it, my gut feeling is that the American industrial complex can produce a superior AA missle than the Chinese - or any other military for that matter, they certainly spent enough money on it over the last 100 years.
      Thrust vectoring as part of the defensive systems is of limit importance, see off-bore shooting and quality of modern AA missles. Never say never but doubtful that a higher turn capability is of much relevance, especially compared to other stuff such as ECM and ECCM. To a certain extent, this also applies to super-cruise capability.
      Higher range true, as a pay-off for a much bigger airframe, which cannot be great for the RCS, no? And who knows what that does to the thrust-weight ratio.
      Would be interesting to see who can get a weapon's grade lock on the other first, which is, it seems to me, the key factor in having the edge in a modern air-to-air engagement.
      But of course there is a reason why much of the "soft" stuff, like avionics and sensor capabilities, are classified. But as one Air Force officer said after F-22 met J-20s in the South China sea, they are not worried about the J-20s.
      And don't get me wrong here, I have no stake in this comparison, I'm just a military aviation enthusiast. But even with the data they "acquired" about F-22 and F-35, it is doubtful that the Chinese can research and produce equipment, from engines to missles, that are on the same level as US stuff developed at the same time. The PL-15 might be a better missile than the AIM-120. It's also decades younger. Same for the F-22. To use an analogy: sure, a T-55 is superior to an M4 Sherman, but that doesn't mean Soviet designs were better than American ones.
      Having said that, I find it quite impressive, that the Chinese have been building up their military very thoughtfully over many decades. For example, they do have a fleet of enablers - tankers, AWACS, etc. - rather than pumping out only "prestige" objects like the J-20. Compare that to the problem of the US air tanker fleet at the moment. They also have "aggressor" squadrons. And the aforementioned Air Force officer mentioned how they were impressed with the PLA AF command and control, stuff that isn't normally considered in comments sections :)
      So, IMHO, J-20 is not on the level of the F-35 technologically and hence tactically. Doesn't mean J-20 is a bad aircraft, it means it's an aircraft made by the country with the second biggest military budget in the world, compared to F-35, the aircraft developed by the country with the biggest military budget in the world and the most experienced and biggest military industrial complex in the world and access to the most advanced technology in the world.

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 Рік тому +2

      @@tripod222 OMG are you and they guy above trying to kiil us with so much txt
      i am having a stroke
      point you may miss.
      J20 never design to complete with f22 or f35, it design as a long range fighter to take out your awac. but dont underestimate it, it has very long range air to air missile and it can easily out run f35.

  • @lwty
    @lwty Рік тому +1

    The prototype that lost to the J20 prototype is not J31. That prototype also uses two AL31F level engines, while J31 uses median level thrust engines.

  • @liteupcandle1
    @liteupcandle1 Рік тому +3

    Great video again. By the way, the underwear commercial is hilarious.

  • @travisverlinde191
    @travisverlinde191 Рік тому +1

    Best thing about copy cats is, usually you have had the product and tech for long enough that you know its weekness better than the copy cat

    • @jazondelta4976
      @jazondelta4976 Рік тому +1

      Ya know, most planes have wings. Them copycats.😂

  • @domokun845
    @domokun845 Рік тому

    I could listen to this man talk about the specifics of rising dough

  • @TheDanEdwards
    @TheDanEdwards Рік тому +3

    *MOAR WAR!* Great, just what we need.

  • @sabapackages
    @sabapackages 7 місяців тому

    Describing abouts jets suddenly selling Boxers is very artistic

  • @foilhat1138
    @foilhat1138 Рік тому +8

    'Xi can we have F35?'
    'We have F35 at home'
    F35 at home FC-31

    • @aburetik4866
      @aburetik4866 Рік тому

      2 food stamps awarded by J. Bden for your patriotic comment

    • @foilhat1138
      @foilhat1138 Рік тому +1

      @@aburetik4866 Do you still get a potato if you just copy and paste the same comment in every thread?

    • @aburetik4866
      @aburetik4866 Рік тому

      @@foilhat1138 because I work on behalf of J. Bden to send food stamps to millions of patriotic homeless Americans.

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 9 місяців тому

    I think I’m pretty good at pattern recognition, but from certain perspectives it would take me some practice to correctly identify which is which.
    That IFF better work flawlessly, because visual identification isn’t going to mean much.

  • @enterthekraken
    @enterthekraken Рік тому +9

    Talking about conceptual design similarities with the F35 kind of misses the point of industrial espionage: getting hold of all the test and technical data for radar tests and advanced engine design lets you build an entirely different aircraft with a huge leg up.

    • @scrixdaasd4953
      @scrixdaasd4953 Рік тому

      well you don't understand that this is not industrial espionage. it more hige tech line espionage. and most off that tech was coming from trading with west build it. when talking about tings that so default to make. just look at chernobyl or Kyshtym disaster. and talking about soveit spy and got old nazi nucler people with out bribing them.

    • @dongately2817
      @dongately2817 Рік тому +1

      I’m sure it gave them a nice head start. I would still question whether the J-20 or J-31 is anywhere near the equal of the F-35 or the F-22.

    • @AT-AT26
      @AT-AT26 Рік тому

      @@dongately2817probably not but they would definitely be cheaper to make and maintain just like all Chinese military tech made from US information. It would still also be a massive challenge to fight if they ever had to fight each other even if one is better

    • @XkMeng
      @XkMeng Рік тому

      @dongately2817 The radar, electronic systems and weapons of the F-22 are quite backward, and there is not even a helmet-mounted display

    • @bobsmith3983
      @bobsmith3983 11 місяців тому

      @@XkMeng That's why the USAF wants to phase out the F-22. By fifth generation standards the F-22 isn't a fifth generation fighter.

  • @jazz.560
    @jazz.560 Рік тому +1

    There’s too many kids in the comments that don’t actually keep up with me military aviation, saying bs they have no clue about

  • @rinzo2009
    @rinzo2009 Рік тому +11

    It's not only Tom Cruise that feels the need for speed.
    Even Chairman Xi can't wait to get into the Danger Zone.

  • @davidvavra9113
    @davidvavra9113 Рік тому +13

    Who let the data be stolen?
    Which federal prison are they in?

  • @jazz.560
    @jazz.560 Рік тому +6

    It’s basically guaranteed that the Chinese Navy will adopt it for its carrier based fifth generation fighter and after that it might get some exports

  • @pingzhang3387
    @pingzhang3387 Рік тому +5

    j35做为舰载机在fc31基础上升级了很多技术,j35在隐身性能上比j20更具优势,对标的是最新型号的f35

  • @ethanngai3663
    @ethanngai3663 Рік тому +1

    Am I crazy? I cannot find a Megaprojects video on the SU-57 despite Simon mentioning there being one at 16:22

  • @EAcapuccino
    @EAcapuccino Рік тому +9

    Ooh 2 in a row! Fabulous! 👍

    • @penskepc2374
      @penskepc2374 Рік тому +1

      Both junk

    • @EAcapuccino
      @EAcapuccino Рік тому +4

      @@penskepc2374 That remains to be seen...

    • @penskepc2374
      @penskepc2374 Рік тому

      @@EAcapuccino not really

    • @EAcapuccino
      @EAcapuccino Рік тому +5

      @PenskePC23 Sure, keep telling yourself that, but the majority of us think otherwise
      Not only China either, since the USA wouldn't export the F22
      We've taken matters into our own hands to even up the play ground 😅

  • @JimmyGambino
    @JimmyGambino 11 місяців тому

    ​ People commenting about how China has not only caught up but surpassed the US in technology they developed, built and advanced solely since the 1970's and was the only country with stealth aircraft until like 15 years ago but in all that R&D really believe that the US in all that time it had a stealth monopoly that they didn't figure out exactly how to track stealth aircraft with a systems and weapons made to neutralize any advantage stealth would give an enemy.
    The F-35 which I've read is less stealthy than a F-22 makes it seem stealth was just one of extremely minor aspect that was probably more expected than truly necessary and that the F-35 main focus were other systems that give it the advantage over anything potential enemies have and something much, much more than just a stealth fighter and how it emphasize the importance and advantage of how integrating different weapons systems, radar and tracking from multiple sources not physically equipped on the F-35 but available through the pilots helmet and can be launched and or deployed by the pilot of the F-35, and from my understanding the US doesn't create and use or at least publicly acknowledge any weapons systems that they can't defend against.

  • @stevelobs6601
    @stevelobs6601 Рік тому +6

    It seems its also important to develop the it-security.

  • @steve5090406
    @steve5090406 Рік тому +1

    There is also speculation that the Turkish TAI TF-X is actually a joint venture with the Chinese FC-31.
    TAI was a partner of the US to jointly build F-35 airframes, but that fell through when Turkey decided it wanted to play all sides against each other and buy S400 missle systems from Russia.
    Since Pakistan and China joined forces to build a version of the J-10 in Pakistan, Turkey asked and got a similar deal, Turkey had nformation about the F35 from it's joint venture with the US.
    It is believed that there will be differences of engines and systems, but the airframes and wings will be identical.

    • @KhalidKhan-yt4ss
      @KhalidKhan-yt4ss Рік тому

      They developed it with B.A.E systems so Britain is helping them not china.

  • @freddiecarr7602
    @freddiecarr7602 Рік тому +4

    YF-22

  • @denis3208
    @denis3208 6 місяців тому

    It silly to start with a western point of view that their planes are perfect and benchmark for 5. generation and that only they know what they are doing and that Russian aircraft design school is inferior (while at the same time not having actual access to the airplane and its capabilities) or that Chinese won't have in the end a final product that is a 5. generation airplane. Best example is "invisible" F-117 that was praised to no end and ultimately shot down in Serbia together with 2 other ones that are still unconfirmed, but also absent from inventory, hit one allegedly crashed in Bosnia and the last one landed on an airport, by 40 year old systems and detected by 50 year old radars at the time.

  • @audrey72537
    @audrey72537 Рік тому +18

    If aliens ever try to take over our planet, at least we'll have a variety of different and constantly improving fighters to throw at them. I just hope we don't destroy ourselves first.

    • @gumonmyshu
      @gumonmyshu Рік тому

      There will always be a group of nations that will betray the rest of the world for their own gain.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Рік тому

      Lol

    • @gautheuil6210
      @gautheuil6210 Рік тому +2

      I don't think jet fighters are very useful against spaceships.

    • @SeedOfElijah
      @SeedOfElijah Рік тому

      ​@@gautheuil6210 yep, I would just plink from space, why go dust it up in atmo

    • @dilanbrinkley3587
      @dilanbrinkley3587 Рік тому +1

      If a group can travel between stars. We'd be lucky to even know they were here before we were gone.

  • @lurchibold
    @lurchibold Рік тому +1

    I'm just going to repeat the world famous meme- 'Made In China'.
    That should say it all!

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 Рік тому

      yes amazing 'Made In China' manage to invade every home in the world.

  • @natebartels1444
    @natebartels1444 Рік тому +4

    Could you also cover the Northrop F-20 Tigershark fighter that was never entered into production?

  • @georgejenkins8063
    @georgejenkins8063 10 місяців тому

    Sorry Simon for all the grammar mistakes and spelling mistakes... its 3pm here in miami and as you may be able to tell... ive had a Old Grand Dads.. oops Sir !! Opps Again, Sir.. !!

  • @MichaelRacer
    @MichaelRacer Рік тому +21

    The FC-31 is basically the Chinese bootleg version of the F-35.

    • @tiberianexcalibur
      @tiberianexcalibur Рік тому +1

      Saying it’s a bootleg is like saying most gun manufacturers are a bootleg of each other. While most guns look the same, the internal components are different. Copying is a compliment in itself.

    • @tehgerbil
      @tehgerbil Рік тому

      >Bootleg F-35
      >Isn't even an attempt at VTOL
      Looks like China didn't bother to make the same mistake then I guess.

    • @nicholaslee5473
      @nicholaslee5473 Рік тому

      @@tiberianexcalibur Copying is like cheating through a test. Ignoring R&D makes you less innovative and competitive. In the long run, you will cripple yourself.

    • @tiberianexcalibur
      @tiberianexcalibur Рік тому

      @@nicholaslee5473 what made you think the Chinese ignored R&D? You still need R&D to build these equipment. If high tech aliens arrived on earth, you would want to copy their technology too.

    • @GilaniWaleed
      @GilaniWaleed 2 місяці тому

      If you go up the ladder all aircrafts are a copy of the first aircraft ever. What's your point lmao?

  • @edwardwongiii2229
    @edwardwongiii2229 Рік тому +1

    What does the video's producer have against the SU-57? It has actually performed very well in action over Ukraine. It is not an "advanced 4th generation" fighter jet. It is a true 5th generation fighter. Advanced 4th generation fighters include the SU-30 SM and the SU-35 S.

    • @tonysu8860
      @tonysu8860 Рік тому

      You really think the SU-57 has performed "very well" over Ukraine? Russia won't fly the aircraft anywhere close to a threat for fear of losing any of the very few in existence and the public relations nightmare that would result if one was lost for any reason.

    • @edwardwongiii2229
      @edwardwongiii2229 Рік тому +1

      @@tonysu8860 Ukraine has no credible air defense to engage 5th generation fighters and much less jets in its very diminished arsenal to challenge it in air to air combat. How has Russia operated the SU-35S and the MiG-31BM to shoot down enemy fighter jets OVER Ukrainian skies then?
      And look, I know that when the MiGs launch Kinzhal missiles towards Ukrainian targets, they do so from Russian air space but at the same time these same jets have been used in their traditional role of interceptor which requires closer engagements in Ukranian air space. Not a single loss in spite of the MiG-31's lack of stealth.

    • @mauerbach58844
      @mauerbach58844 Рік тому

      I wouldn’t want to go into combat against it !

  • @Bbenkosky
    @Bbenkosky Рік тому +4

    If it has a pilot inside, it's not the future it's the past. Does not matter the price. Unmanned will win the future.

    • @ghazanhussain2070
      @ghazanhussain2070 Рік тому

      Very stupid statement. Put aside sci-fi and read some real, boring science.

    • @jg3000
      @jg3000 Рік тому

      Unmanned seems pointless. Who wants a bunch of robots killing us.

  • @masonclark2310
    @masonclark2310 Рік тому +1

    I can’t find this supposed su57 video for some reason

  • @southernsmoke8391
    @southernsmoke8391 Рік тому +3

    Stealth designs all will be similar bc there’s only so much of the design of an aircraft that can be made stealthy

    • @LSmoney215
      @LSmoney215 Рік тому

      Not true

    • @tacomeme429
      @tacomeme429 Рік тому +1

      Look at f22 vs yf23, compare those with the b2, and boeing bird of prey. All very different shapes, all very stealthy. Honestly this tells me that stealth coatings must be doing a lot of heavy lifting in the designs of some of the jets

    • @LSmoney215
      @LSmoney215 Рік тому

      @@tacomeme429 and prototype of the new ngad 6gen looks nothing like the 5gen. They copy cus they don't know how research and develop new designs so they copy something that USA provrn to work. They hack into Lockheed Martin blueprints for f22 and f35. Buddy is dumb. USA even got stealth refueling drones stingray

    • @LSmoney215
      @LSmoney215 Рік тому

      @@tacomeme429 preach somebody know what they talking about

  • @MrSJPowell
    @MrSJPowell Рік тому +2

    This reminds me of the Dreadnaught era. Britain was far and away the world's largest navy, until they produced the Dreadnaught, which made all prior warships obsolete. Then, all Russia had to do was produce Dreadnaught grade ships a the same rate as Britain, and they could keep up. It didn't matter how many non dreadnaughts Britain had at that point.
    If 5th gen fighters live up to their hype (and I really hope no one ever has to find out if they actually do live up to that hype) nearly every other fighter jet has become obsolete. So the fact that the US has a massive air force doesn't really matter. Any nation that can keep up with that, or even join in on the "fun" now becomes a contender.

  • @wk7337
    @wk7337 Рік тому +1

    I am gonna comment on all your videos till it gets made 😂, program is worth 3 billion dollars for 75 heavily modified crop dusters. Also known as the war tractor

  • @jeffagain7516
    @jeffagain7516 Рік тому +3

    Interesting to see (re T.S. 13:49) the ac has (what I guess as) an external air cart start system (not engaged) providing air to the compressor, vice turbine for the engine(s). At first I thought this the fuel delivery hose but as the hose seems collapsed vice rigid, I don't think it's attached to a fuel point (plus, the delivery vehicle is small).
    Not sure why they would elect to do so, as air induction on something as delicate as the engine compressor isn't the best idea. Mind, this could be simply air induction to a starter unit, which then engages a gearbox mechanism to the drive shaft and not the compressor after all. Interesting either way.
    As an aside, the PLAAF not immediately adopting the FC-31 and yet it amazingly still having sufficient funds for continuous developmental improvements, is of course just another Ma-Jong play by China to keep the "West" guessing. This thing looks amazing and I suspect it will be in PLAAF inventory before we even know it happened. :)

  • @MrSamuraiGhost
    @MrSamuraiGhost Рік тому

    The thumbnail look on the jet looks like a mix of a F22 RAPTOR mixed with a Mig25 Foxbat and F35 Lighting

  • @garykelley9027
    @garykelley9027 Рік тому +8

    Every time he mentions the SU as a 5th gen it just makes me chuckle as it's 4.5 at best.

  • @pengwang0816
    @pengwang0816 8 місяців тому +1

    The J-31 is made in my hometown!❤❤❤

  • @innerspiritgenki
    @innerspiritgenki 8 місяців тому +1

    I still remember many years ago the whole Internet was talking and saying J20 was developed from sloten tech, now FC 31 also the same, I guess they are all stolen tech so there's nothing to worry about right? Just ignore everthing china doing, why so obsess with China? 😂

  • @aburetik4866
    @aburetik4866 Рік тому +5

    J20 looks very different from F22/35. But America's 6th gen fighter "FA-XX" looks quite like a copy of J20. Both have canards, delta wings, DSI intakes etc.

  • @manilove2pwn
    @manilove2pwn Рік тому +20

    definitely stole f22/35 plans

    • @penskepc2374
      @penskepc2374 Рік тому +4

      They're just so incompetent though it almost doesn't matter

    • @NinjaRunningWild
      @NinjaRunningWild Рік тому +4

      @@penskepc2374 Yeah, but never underestimate your enemy.

    • @penskepc2374
      @penskepc2374 Рік тому

      @@NinjaRunningWild yeah, but definitely make fun of them

    • @CulturalXplorer19
      @CulturalXplorer19 Рік тому

      ​@@penskepc2374 an incompetent country wouldn't be able to build advanced space stations, advanced quantum communication satellites, etc etc
      So, your assumption is purely based on ignorance.
      Your biggest downfall, will be underestimating the Chinese.
      This will be the United States's biggest downfall.

    • @grujicdanijel7963
      @grujicdanijel7963 Рік тому +2

      F-35 is built on the Yak-141 blueprints, so...

  • @Pilot-X
    @Pilot-X 10 місяців тому

    Secretive nature of China’s R&D process made me LOL

    • @vincentdesun
      @vincentdesun 9 місяців тому

      why so? Shouldn't the second best in class hide it's dagger in pocket until absolutely necessary?

  • @CM-ey7nq
    @CM-ey7nq Рік тому +12

    Fascinating how Simon stays so professional on this channel and may be sometimes downright annoying on the others. And how he, as skinny as he is, got me convinced for a bit that he actually moves outside the studio - enough to get my interest in sheathunderwear. Well done :)

    • @johnathan6642
      @johnathan6642 Рік тому

      This is a fascinatingly bewildering comment for so many reasons. Like you know marathon runners are often skinny right?

    • @tonykriss1594
      @tonykriss1594 Рік тому

      Not so professional in this video though.