YUGOSLAVIA: The Chaotic Final Days

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  • @WhatifFootball3417-r2f
    @WhatifFootball3417-r2f  2 місяці тому +3

    International break nearly over: what club teams do you want us to cover?

    • @thomasarsenal5465
      @thomasarsenal5465 2 місяці тому

      Bro!!!! ❤ how did you make this video so quickly! Love it 👌💯💯💯💯💯

    • @WhatifFootball3417-r2f
      @WhatifFootball3417-r2f  2 місяці тому

      @@thomasarsenal5465research them over a month, usually takes a full day to write up, voice and edit so the fourth week I do that and get 5 videos out per month

    • @PlaybytherulzNumba2
      @PlaybytherulzNumba2 2 місяці тому

      Please cover the Zambia National football team tragedy on 27th April 1993. African football may have been different if it had not happened. #saddayinfootball

    • @MrLepiBren
      @MrLepiBren 2 місяці тому

      Good stuff. I was born in Yugoslavia. The 1990 team was amazing.

    • @thisimmortalsoul
      @thisimmortalsoul 2 місяці тому

      real sociedad and athletic bilbao - basque dominance in the 80s, contrasting fortunes since, all basque copa del rey final in 19/20, and their players making up the spine of the spanish team that won the euros. lots of great stories to be told.

  • @theflyintheointment
    @theflyintheointment 2 місяці тому +9

    I was just too young for Italia '90, but one of my first football memories was that European Cup winning Red Star team of '90/'91. Back then the European Cup was on BBC so it was easy to follow their progress. They were SUCH a good team, I became obsessed with them. Fast, free-flowing and counter-attacking football, spectacular goals, and you won't see more of a hostile cauldron than their Marakana stadium at that time - it was frightening looking. What an atmosphere. Check out any of their games from that '90/'91 European Cup run, they're all on youtube. The atmosphere before the semi-final home game v Bayern, and the pitch invasion after - wow. Shame they went all defensive for the final, but what a team all the same. And WHAT a midfield - Prosinecki, Savicevic, Jugovic, Mihaijlovic. Prosinecki was the jewel in the crown, his career never hit the heights it should have.
    With the backbone of that Red Star team, and then you add the likes of Boban, Jarni and Suker at their peak, if it wasn't for the war I can easily see Yugoslavia winning either or both Euro '92 and USA '94.

    • @thebagelsproductions
      @thebagelsproductions 2 місяці тому +1

      Dragan Stoikevic I also remember was a great player from that team

  • @geoffpoole483
    @geoffpoole483 Місяць тому +2

    The 1976 European Championship final took place at the Marakana and was where we were treated to the original Panenka penalty. A look at the rise of Dutch football would be worth covering. Although Croatia do well in tournaments the former Yugoslav domestic leagues are not of a great standard. The Serbian league is just a battle between Red Star and Partizan.

  • @quoc-anhpham687
    @quoc-anhpham687 2 місяці тому +8

    Dang dude how do you find the time to make all these top-quality documentaries? Genuinely my favorite on UA-cam in terms of football content. 👍

  • @sandeepghoshal6503
    @sandeepghoshal6503 2 місяці тому +5

    Football in Yugoslavia was truly amazing. In the 70s Yugoslavia was focusing on freeflowing techincal players while every other country was bent on physicality.
    Another fascinating thing is that a football match played a vital role in the beginning of Croatian independence war. Legendary player Boban kicked a fan during a tense match between dinamo Zagreb and Red Star I think

    • @roryslaine7896
      @roryslaine7896 2 місяці тому +4

      Close. Boban kicked a Serb riot police in the head after he felt the police were assaulting Dinamo supporters. It wasn't a fan he kicked. And it turned out the police he kicked was actually either a Serbo-Croat or a Bosniak himself and he later forgave Boban for booting him. Boban became a symbol of Croatian independence/nationalism at the time.

    • @sandeepghoshal6503
      @sandeepghoshal6503 2 місяці тому +1

      @@roryslaine7896 thank you for correcting and providing context. I had read about years back and still find that astounding

    • @roryslaine7896
      @roryslaine7896 2 місяці тому +1

      @@sandeepghoshal6503 No worries matey! And yea, it's absolutely fascinating. It's a cliche, but football is more than just a game!

    • @pomorackotor
      @pomorackotor 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@roryslaine7896he kik policeman who is not Serbian but Bosnian and he kik policeman without knowing hi is Serb, Croatian, Slovenian, Montenegrian or Bosnian

    • @flok8330
      @flok8330 2 місяці тому +1

      I am from Belgrade, Red Star fan, remember that game like it was yesterday. It was war on the stands and on the field, our fans and players barely made it out. Boban's family roots are from Ustase. Google about them if you want to know more, i wont speak about them here.

  • @richardfinlayson1524
    @richardfinlayson1524 2 місяці тому +1

    one of the first games i ever went to was a friendly between the Australian national team and Red star Belgrade in feb 76 ,Olympic park Melbourne, about a month after seeing Liverpool play ipswich at Anfield......i was an obsesive aussie 11 year old who was football crazy, mums from st Helens thats how i got to see liverpool a month earlier we had visited my grandparents in the UK....melbourne used to have Footscray JUST a club formed by yugoslav migrants and Melbourne croatia or the Melbourne Knights have always been a force in OZ football, along with Sydney United (sydney croatia) there is also a melbourne serbia who did well in this years FAA cup., so we have a strong history of involvement by clubs formed by migrants from the former Yugoslavia, as well as Greece Itally, and other europesan nationalities,,,its quite interesting actually , they were the clubs that were in our old NSL and still play in state leagues.

  • @ivanpobran9669
    @ivanpobran9669 2 місяці тому +2

    Yugoslavia had everything art of football only Results did not have Yugoslav style was pleasure to watch which I always say Holiday for the eyes to watch Yugoslav football.

  • @crimsonanimations5146
    @crimsonanimations5146 2 місяці тому

    Amazing video, please do a documentary about the Egyptian National Football Team when possible, it’s a very interesting rollercoaster.

  • @flok8330
    @flok8330 2 місяці тому +1

    Great movie m8. Look at all the team sports played with all like football, basketball, handball, voleyball, water polo, former Yugoslavia would reign the world in all these sports. Btw, in 1992 Denmark won the European cup and they came as a replacement for our team.

  • @AndrewjWilson
    @AndrewjWilson 7 днів тому

    Yugoslavia produced some fantastic players. Their weakness was always their mentally

  • @jerest1000
    @jerest1000 27 днів тому +1

    Boksic and Jarni werent playing for Dinamo, but Hajduk Split..

  • @keithlawford-r5e
    @keithlawford-r5e 2 місяці тому

    i remember watching them at Italia 90.
    In the Group stage Matthaeus's Germany took them apart but they bounced back to reach the Quarter-finals and almost knocked out Maradona's Argentina

  • @pallavpurkayastha915
    @pallavpurkayastha915 2 місяці тому +2

    Football unites! Politics divides!

  • @JeanBernard
    @JeanBernard 2 місяці тому +3

    Despite the outstanding squad quality, Yugoslavia missed the World and European Championships in 1978, 1980, 1986 and 1988. They tended to underestimate the opponent and were often not well prepared in terms of fitness and tactics. After taking the lead, they often gave up instead of continuing to charge forward. Politics also had a lot of influence in football; Players from the Belgrade (Serbian) teams were often preferred. In 1990, Ivica Osim relied on old, "proven" players from an unsuccessful era instead of filling the team with the young U20 world champions. Back then, at 21-22 years old, they were all leading players in their teams. Too bad

    • @NenadGajić-s3t
      @NenadGajić-s3t 2 місяці тому +1

      In Yugoslavia only croatian players were the favorite ones. Belgrade 's football assossiation was not as sucsessful as Zagreb' s was

    • @simonacinghita7719
      @simonacinghita7719 2 місяці тому

      @@NenadGajić-s3t Nu este adevarat. Locuiesc in Timisoara si urmaream TV Iugoslavia, am fost in Iugoslavia si stiu bine care era situatia.

  • @SuperJuniorquintero
    @SuperJuniorquintero 2 місяці тому

    Like I mentioned about this team in other videos before, and I'll mention it again. If this team would still be around, they would've won not one but two, or maybe three FIFA world cup titles by now. They were very effective team. P.S. You should've talk a little more about the 1962 world cup squad and their participation in that tournament.

  • @josiprakonca2185
    @josiprakonca2185 2 місяці тому +2

    In 1930 WC only Serbian players played, Croatians boycotted because of the killing of Croatian delegates in the parliament and subsequent dictatorship.
    Yugoslavia never fielded the best possible teams: there was a nationality key, a cap on number of players from each nationality.

  • @PauloSilva-zp2jb
    @PauloSilva-zp2jb 2 місяці тому +1

    Video idea: Benfica's european finals curse

  • @frozen1762
    @frozen1762 2 місяці тому +1

    Different times in so many ways. Yugoslavia was on the rise in late 80s/early 90s and would probably be top NT of the 90s until Zidane's France, but that's just on paper. Lots of great teams on paper never won anything. In football because competition is so strong a team is either more or less than sum of its parts. One thing is for sure, if Yugoslavia did not fell apart, Denmark would never won Euro 92 lol

  • @fearghus66
    @fearghus66 2 місяці тому

    Could you do the IFA-FAI split?

  • @Bruno-e1r
    @Bruno-e1r 2 місяці тому +1

    13:52 Alen Bokšić , Jarni played for Hajduk Split not Dinamo 😢😢😢👎👎👎
    Youre mentioned Dinamo and Red Starr but by far Hajduk Split had 6 players from national squad lol

    • @flok8330
      @flok8330 2 місяці тому

      Yes and that was the problem. Ivica Osim was the main reason we didn't pass quarters in that WC.

  • @giodhuha6771
    @giodhuha6771 2 місяці тому

    What is Jude Bellingham doing there?

  • @cuginoeddie8677
    @cuginoeddie8677 2 місяці тому +2

    If Yugoslavia still existed today, between the World Cup and Euro they would have won 3 cups easily just when you think off the combined talent from the former countries the past 30 years.

    • @pomorackotor
      @pomorackotor 2 місяці тому

      If Yugoslavia stilp exist, football would be good but basketball, handball, waleyball and waterpoolo would be joke with all rest.

  • @pomorackotor
    @pomorackotor 2 місяці тому

    Yugoslavia in basketball would be worst nightmare for USA dream team. Handball, waterpolo, valleyball who could beat us? And yes, Tito dictator? I would say kings are dictators

  • @dariolivaja978
    @dariolivaja978 2 місяці тому

    Jarni & Boksic didn’t come from Dinamo :D
    Hajduk was, is and will be the No. 1 club in Croatia!

    • @WhatifFootball3417-r2f
      @WhatifFootball3417-r2f  2 місяці тому +1

      @@dariolivaja978 my mistake apologies

    • @TomislavKaracic
      @TomislavKaracic 2 місяці тому

      @@WhatifFootball3417-r2f Dont listen to him, he is quite delusional, Hajduk didnt won a championship almost 30 years

  • @LeighRichards27
    @LeighRichards27 2 місяці тому +1

    What exactly was the legal basis for excluding yugoslavia from the 1992 euros? That was a outstanding Yugoslav team that could well have won the European championship if they hadn't been cruelly expelled before a ball was kicked.

    • @WhatifFootball3417-r2f
      @WhatifFootball3417-r2f  2 місяці тому +1

      The UN blocked Yugoslavia on grounds of war crimes.

    • @cibetka76
      @cibetka76 2 місяці тому

      @@WhatifFootball3417-r2f No, not really. Most of the crimes happened after this. This was before war in Bosnia even started, it was still only in Croatia, and there wasn't even international crime tribunal yet or anything. It was a political decision. Western countries had clear favorites in Yugoslavia, Croats and Slovenians, and Germany, USA, UK and the others were complicit in breaking up Yugoslavia. This decision was more or less continuation of their policy to break up the country and blame only one side for a civil war that had many guilty parties, including not the least themselves.

  • @TimardTurd
    @TimardTurd 2 місяці тому +5

    The most racist, politically oriented team in Europe. Kicking out some of its best players out of national team just because of religion and birth place. Thank god its over

    • @cibetka76
      @cibetka76 2 місяці тому +1

      what are you talking about? Yugoslavia was completely the opposite, they made sure that players from minorities and smaller republics get to play, even if they weren't the best players. I don't believe anywhere in the world they took so much care about this.

    • @TimardTurd
      @TimardTurd 2 місяці тому

      @cibetka76 As long as they were Serbian, yeah

    • @cibetka76
      @cibetka76 2 місяці тому

      @@TimardTurd complete nonsense.

    • @glavatazelva
      @glavatazelva 20 днів тому

      ​@@cibetka76sa tim svojim komentarom nisi opovrgnuo njedov, več si ga potvrdio!
      Koga briga koga su ubacili u tim, ako su iz tima izvadili najbolje.

    • @cibetka76
      @cibetka76 19 днів тому +1

      @glavatazelva Pa tacno je da nisu igrali najbolji uvek, ali nisu ti igraci preskoceni zbog njihove nacionalnosti tipa da neko kaze necemo Srbe ili necemo Hrvate. Bilo je svih, ali gledalo se da nekog ne bude previse, a nekog da nema. Odnosno, ako je iole bio pristojan igrac iz manjeg naroda, pre je biran nego bolji iz veceg koji je dao vec recimo 4-5 igraca.

  • @meetyourancestors3565
    @meetyourancestors3565 2 місяці тому

    The look on Bellinghams face...😂