Great video! I just bought a boat with this same motor and I am so happy to have seen a video to explain the working of this motor. Thank you so much for sharing this information very helpful-Tim in Michigan
I have just finished refurbishing the same motor ( 1974 vintage but essentially the same) and even with a rebore, new pistons and rings to suit, a complete carb rebuild and new coils and plugs, it still smokes like yours in the bucket. I guess this engine runs a bit Smokey but I’d hoped for better given the money I spent on it. Nevertheless the project was enjoyable and I hope your father/grandfather is happy at what you’ve done with yours.
@@SailingPauHana I will admit that I decided to run it at 40:1 fuel mix because of the new bore/piston situation and perhaps I’ll drop the oil ratio to the accepted 50:1 after a few hours running in but the reason I did the rebore was because the engine was smokey and the slight lack of compression seemed to me to indicate that a rebore etc would cure this. It will still be reliable I’m sure ( like yours).
it's true they are, but points are a pain...but bigger then that is availability of parts for old motors. I'm thinking about coils when I say this. You know aftermarket solid state ignition systems became available for lawn mowers engines etc. But as far as I know they never made any updated ignition systems for outboards....which is a shame because there certainly is a need.
I just purchased a 1965 Johnson 6 HP from the original owner. I looks just like your motor, under the cowling. Mechanically, I don't know the differences between the model years.
Awesome video. I will need to be doing the same on my motor that my dad just have to me. Just wondering how u reset the impeller to get the water to flow and was that the problem
Thank you. We will be taking it apart this Spring as well...We will most likely record the replacement of the impeller this time. As far as the water flow, we discovered that the motor just had to be deeper into the water to create the "suction" to get the water flowing. In the video, we started with a small bucket and switched it out for a large 30 gallon trash-can...and that solved it.
@@SailingPauHana I also would like to thank you it's 4 years later but I just bought the same motor! This video really has helped me in so many ways! Thank you!
@@SailingPauHana If you don't mind me asking is it common to have these older types of motors smoke like that. I noticed mine does exactly what yours does? Could that be a carburetor adjustment or need new carburetor parts? Or it's just how they work even when things are set right? With your experience that is. I just bought all new cable contacts to be able to use it from a throttle perspective, but of course I want it to start right away and not smoke as much. Your thoughts and opinions would be much appreciated. This will be used on Narragansett bay in RI only to get me out to the bay to sail on a small 22 foot sailboat. I also wanted to ask the impeller action. I just ordered one although mine does seem to be like yours when it slows there seems to be little water expelled? Is this also how it should be operating to your experience with your motor. I hope I am not imposing to much asking all these questions? Much appreciated response, Joe!
@@josephcadrin as far as the smoke...this was my Dads motor that was stored for 20 years or so, so I'm not surprised it smoked a bit. Two cycle engines do smoke more than the modern 4 cycle, do some smoke is to be expected, since you're burning gas thsts mixed with oil (the oil is the cause of the smoke). Also, the knob on the front will adjust the air fuel mixture...so if you run it too rich, it could cause smoke. Onn the impeller question, we have water coming out no matter the RPM. This motor dies not have a "stream" per say, but more like water just coming out splattering (for lack of a better term).
@@SailingPauHana Long shaft had a lower housing spacer between gear box and lower unit. Back in 1972 was on the assembly lines that made them in Waukegan Ill.
In our case, the motor was not deep enough into the water. The motor shaft has to be submerged deeper into the water for the pump to prime and start pumping the water. The general question of why water does not pump...you may have a clog or need to replace your impeller....could be a bad pump as well.
2 stroke. I use a 50/1 mix and it works great. I just replaced the recoil spring today, and I am working on the video of that right now. Stay tuned for more DIY on this motor in episodes to follow. (this motor was purchased by my Dad in 1971). Thanks for watching.
Nifty....I'd still rebuild if possible the fuel pump or replace....I'm surprised it worked...but I'd still expect a failure. Same for the output shaft seal on the lower unit....it should be pretty hardened by now and not very effective....your lower unit grease is probably already white with moisture just from running in garbage can.
Yeah, we plan on doing some more work to it, but we just wanted to make sure it was going to work before we dive into anything major. But, you know whats funny? when I pulled the Impeller out, it was like brand new....not a single crack or any signs of wear, I was very surprised. Thanks for watching.
I dont even have a stand or a bucket so I mounted mine on the back of a 11 foot vbottom and filled a huge Tupperware box full of water, the bottom hole splashes but nothing comes out the top one. Not sure I want to drop the lower unit and replace the impeller, just seems like way too much work.
Great video! I just bought a boat with this same motor and I am so happy to have seen a video to explain the working of this motor. Thank you so much for sharing this information very helpful-Tim in Michigan
I have just finished refurbishing the same motor ( 1974 vintage but essentially the same) and even with a rebore, new pistons and rings to suit, a complete carb rebuild and new coils and plugs, it still smokes like yours in the bucket. I guess this engine runs a bit Smokey but I’d hoped for better given the money I spent on it. Nevertheless the project was enjoyable and I hope your father/grandfather is happy at what you’ve done with yours.
This one has had minimal use. Years would go by without use. It has always smoked when running...I always figured he mixed the fuel with too much oil.
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I will admit that I decided to run it at 40:1 fuel mix because of the new bore/piston situation and perhaps I’ll drop the oil ratio to the accepted 50:1 after a few hours running in but the reason I did the rebore was because the engine was smokey and the slight lack of compression seemed to me to indicate that a rebore etc would cure this. It will still be reliable I’m sure ( like yours).
The old ones are way better than the new ones. Good for another 10 years.
it's true they are, but points are a pain...but bigger then that is availability of parts for old motors. I'm thinking about coils when I say this. You know aftermarket solid state ignition systems became available for lawn mowers engines etc. But as far as I know they never made any updated ignition systems for outboards....which is a shame because there certainly is a need.
best fishing motor ever made
I just purchased a 1965 Johnson 6 HP from the original owner. I looks just like your motor, under the cowling.
Mechanically, I don't know the differences between the model years.
Very nice
I'm guessing putting the motor in the barrel gave the motor enough water to pump.
Yup, had to be deeper
Not enough water in the bucket. Those pumps are not self primed. The need to be submerged at startup for them to work properly.
Awesome video. I will need to be doing the same on my motor that my dad just have to me. Just wondering how u reset the impeller to get the water to flow and was that the problem
Thank you. We will be taking it apart this Spring as well...We will most likely record the replacement of the impeller this time. As far as the water flow, we discovered that the motor just had to be deeper into the water to create the "suction" to get the water flowing. In the video, we started with a small bucket and switched it out for a large 30 gallon trash-can...and that solved it.
@@SailingPauHana I also would like to thank you it's 4 years later but I just bought the same motor! This video really has helped me in so many ways! Thank you!
@@josephcadrin you’re welcome. We are glad it helped. We love making the videos.
@@SailingPauHana If you don't mind me asking is it common to have these older types of motors smoke like that. I noticed mine does exactly what yours does? Could that be a carburetor adjustment or need new carburetor parts? Or it's just how they work even when things are set right? With your experience that is. I just bought all new cable contacts to be able to use it from a throttle perspective, but of course I want it to start right away and not smoke as much. Your thoughts and opinions would be much appreciated. This will be used on Narragansett bay in RI only to get me out to the bay to sail on a small 22 foot sailboat. I also wanted to ask the impeller action. I just ordered one although mine does seem to be like yours when it slows there seems to be little water expelled? Is this also how it should be operating to your experience with your motor. I hope I am not imposing to much asking all these questions? Much appreciated response, Joe!
@@josephcadrin as far as the smoke...this was my Dads motor that was stored for 20 years or so, so I'm not surprised it smoked a bit. Two cycle engines do smoke more than the modern 4 cycle, do some smoke is to be expected, since you're burning gas thsts mixed with oil (the oil is the cause of the smoke). Also, the knob on the front will adjust the air fuel mixture...so if you run it too rich, it could cause smoke. Onn the impeller question, we have water coming out no matter the RPM. This motor dies not have a "stream" per say, but more like water just coming out splattering (for lack of a better term).
Is it a short shaft
I believe it is a short shaft
Thank you I just bought this motor
@@SailingPauHana Long shaft had a lower housing spacer between gear box and lower unit. Back in 1972 was on the assembly lines that made them in Waukegan Ill.
What would cause no water flow out of exhaust?
In our case, the motor was not deep enough into the water. The motor shaft has to be submerged deeper into the water for the pump to prime and start pumping the water. The general question of why water does not pump...you may have a clog or need to replace your impeller....could be a bad pump as well.
I just picked up the same outboard. Are they a 2 stroke or a 4stroke?
2 stroke. I use a 50/1 mix and it works great. I just replaced the recoil spring today, and I am working on the video of that right now. Stay tuned for more DIY on this motor in episodes to follow. (this motor was purchased by my Dad in 1971). Thanks for watching.
Nifty....I'd still rebuild if possible the fuel pump or replace....I'm surprised it worked...but I'd still expect a failure. Same for the output shaft seal on the lower unit....it should be pretty hardened by now and not very effective....your lower unit grease is probably already white with moisture just from running in garbage can.
Yeah, we plan on doing some more work to it, but we just wanted to make sure it was going to work before we dive into anything major. But, you know whats funny? when I pulled the Impeller out, it was like brand new....not a single crack or any signs of wear, I was very surprised. Thanks for watching.
That is amazing....I've seen them look bad in a year or so even....replaced and never used after replacing maybe...dunno.
I dont even have a stand or a bucket so I mounted mine on the back of a 11 foot vbottom and filled a huge Tupperware box full of water, the bottom hole splashes but nothing comes out the top one. Not sure I want to drop the lower unit and replace the impeller, just seems like way too much work.
Ya didn't do ANYTHING BUT TAKE APART WATER PUMP! DIDNT REASEMBLW. PUMP OR CARB?
Did you watch the whole video? At 5:12 we take out the fuel screen then the plugs and carb.
Unfortunately,your vid was spoiled by the lack of sound quality.
We have recently invested in numerous cameras and microphones for our voyages south. This video was one of our earlier videos.
@@SailingPauHana That's good news,I'll be looking out for your vids.
they always show you the easy part and skip the hard part, the video is of no help to me. I already know how to remove bolts.
What part did we skip? What did you need help with?