@@Aurora_Synth my entire playthrough up to this point has been trying to keep rockets as cheap as possible :p my moon landed cost about 1/3rd of what a Saturn V equivalent would have, and it can still land two crew on the moon!
On the other hand. (reusable rocketry) what about a variant of the ULA Vulcan rockets concept of smart reuse with a traditional ablative heat shield? I've used this concept on a JUNO new origin career playthrough, on the rocket that's my current profile pic. Curious to see if it would work in KSP RP1, if so it would be a hell of a lot safer than a shuttle like reusable space plane.
IIRC, the soviets had an advantage early on because they had bigger launchers. All early launchers were ICBM based. But the USSR needed bigger launchers because they couldn’t (initially) make small/lightweight nuclear warheads like the Americans could. Since the Americans could make small, lightweight warheads, they didn’t need to design huge ICBMs. The first dedicated nonICBM American launcher was the Saturn I
Actually, from a strict perspective, the first almost-a-year of American orbital spaceflight (from Explorer 1 to SCORE) was not powered by ICBM-derived vehicles-the Jupiter-C "Juno I", Vanguard, Thor-Able, NOTS-EV-1 Pilot "NOTSnik", and Juno II were all either bespoke or shorter-range missiles with extra stages. But this only further emphasizes the size differences. A large part of why the United States was still so competitive in spaceflight is that they weren't just able to miniaturize nuclear warheads much better than the Soviets could, but electronics. Explorer 1, Vanguard 1, and Pioneer 4's functionality compared favorably with that of Sputnik 1 despite being almost or more than an order of magnitude lighter-heck, the never-definitively-successfully-launched Pilot test satellite had the potential for very rudimentary infrared imaging despite massing only as much as a 1U CubeSat, in 1958!
Mate, I think the crashing thing is due to Principia. If you've been running a save for a while now and have launched enough stuff, the memory backlog with P becomes absolutely MASSIVE! Had a similar thing happened to me quite a while ago. It's why I decided to part ways with that mod, unfortunately, cause it is awesome.
The "this vessel is just cursed upon decoupling" is unlikely to be memory-related, but it might be the same issue as Principia issues #3855 or #3802. From my own experience, the memory issues are definitely much better than they used to be. Even being extremely aggressive with deleting old vessels, I abandoned a career in 1.10.1 (late 2021, I want to say Principia Gröbner?) due to extremely frequent OOM. Never had memory issues with it in a career in 1.12.3 (mid-2022 on), even being very sloppy with leaving dead satellites and upper stages in orbit, and with far higher flight rates too - perusing the changelog, Harish-Chandra looks like it might have been the version that fixed the big issues. The save file size difference is also dramatic - 320MiB with 89 launches versus 37MiB with 168 (though a tiny fraction of that saving will be due to KSPCF stripping indentation, and it's not apples to apples as both include sounding rockets and the latter a dozen plane flights, neither of which should impact Principia in the long run).
I had a similar stuck-fairing problem and I found that the fairing's hitboxes are a bit wrong and that moving any stuff on the bottom of the fuel tank (RCS tanks, etc.) elsewhere (inwards, into a cylindrical nonradial tank, etc.) fixed that issue for me
I find it funny how you said you could’ve beat Yuri Gagarin but needed to do an uncrewed flight first, which is funny since that’s what happened in real life, Werner von Braun wanted to do a test with a chimp before they did a crewed test and this caused the soviets to beat the Americans to orbit.
2:05 While it didn't exactly use the lowest-energy trajectory (New Shepard comes much closer to that), Redstone-Mercury was far more sub-orbital than the Garrison Suborbital Vehicle-the single-stage Redstone couldn't carry any payload to orbit by itself and would have roughly-equivalent LEO payload capacity to the Thunderbolt only if 7-core asparagus-staged, while one could conceivably make a crewed spacecraft that could be carried to orbit on a Thunderbolt.† 3:20 To be honest, I don't like the narrative that the N1 itself caused the Soviet Union to lose the Space Race. The (oddly, given the Soviet Union's typical economic organization) decentralized and disorganized Soviet space program lacked the initiative and coordination to manage a crewed lunar landing-if as a consequence of better organization the N1 was given more and more timely funding and resources allowing more and earlier test launches, the Soviet Union could well have at least made it to the Moon with people. Another factor that IMO really doesn't get as much attention as it should is the USSR being considerably behind the US in electronics technology, leading to Soviet spacecraft (particularly uncrewed spacecraft) being substantially heavier and less reliable than comparable American ones; for some early examples, Explorer 1, Vanguard 1, and Pioneer 4 were more functional than Sputnik 1 despite being almost or more than an order of magnitude lighter. This ultimately has its roots in the Stalinist disdain for cybernetics and machine intelligence-I would go so far as to say that if the more avant-garde intellectual faction of the Bolsheviks triumphed during the revolutionary period, the United States would have no chance in the Space Race, _ceteris paribus_ . 7:55 A Humphrey-cycle Kerolox engine could theoretically provide over 400 seconds. 17:15 One of the things I dislike about Realism Overhaul is the lack of any single-person EVA-capable capsule, making things like my alternate-historical Enoch missions unsimulatable without additional mods I do not know exist. 17:55 Unfortunate that there has never been a mod to replace the Kerbal _models and animations_ with those of humans. (Or, um, other species... I want to fly my vulpine cosmonaut character pls...) †The gondola used in the Man High balloon missions, of approximately equivalent mass, was proposed to be modified for use in Redstone-boosted suborbital crewed space missions, this being abandoned for a perceived lack of growth potential... meanwhile, in my batshit "Man to the Moon by the end of the decade" concept, that gondola is heavily modified with an ICBM heat shield and mated to an Atlas-Hustler boosted with 4 development Minuteman boosters to send a man (colostomized and possibly under sedation much of the time) on a Lunar free return trajectory in late December 1959.
I use a mod called ship manifest :) although that did mess up my install doing it so in the future I'm just going to be editing the save file, not sure if there's any tutorials of how to do that but basically open up your save file in a text editor (I'd recommend making a back up first incase you mess it up, trust me thats been a lifesaver for me haha) and replace all instances of the kerbal's name in the save with the one you want it to be, depending on mods, length of the save file and what you've done with said kerbal there could be quite a few bits to change!
Everything I find says the Mercury hatches were not welded. There were maybe two held shut and locked mechanically and the rest were bolted with explosive bolts for quick evac. Can't find any mention of them being welded.
I do want to at some point, I mentioned it in the first episode of this series that I want to get back to it, and might take a break from this after moon landings, but I also want to finish coming home too, I’ve got a list of half finished things I really need to get to!
@@Thorgon-Cross I've corrected it to orbit. I t was Laika I was referring to. Just used the wrong words. Thank you, kind interenet stranger. Happy Kerballing .
Don't forget first space station, first modular space station, first lunar impactor, first lunar lander, first rover, first interplanetary lander (Venus), and first mars lander
They didn’t do any research though. Their space program was more about showing America who’s boss instead of doing research. The Americans did research and studied space. Also, most of the Soviet rockets were more it just works.
I don't remember who had the same crashing issue before, but they said that uninstalling the making history dlc resolved it Think it might've been penguin
so i have a few questions. my procedural wings don't like resize and stuff, they just stay as squares. also, my textures for my planets look like actual frozen vomit. how did you get yours to look that realistic?
Have you tried hovering over the procedural wing and pressing J? That’s the button to shape them :) alternatively pressing B and T while hovering over the wing will shape them too! Just need to move the mouse with that, no need to click. As for the planet textures, I’m using 64k RSS Reborn textures from ballistic fox which seriously up how the planets look! They’re very very demanding though and I think 32-64gb of RAM is recommended to use them, you don’t really see it that much in the videos but it does make my game quite slow too, and that’s with a 3070ti and an i9 13900 so yeah need quite a beefy pc for it!
@@Carnasa this helps out insanely, thank you a lot. but I was trying to get into my game then all a sudden I got a b9 part switch fatal error. i was wondering if you have ever gotten this and what to do. I've re installed it and made sure that I had the latest version. i downloaded it using ckan but every single time I try to fix it it just still comes up. again, if you know any tips or any ways to fix it, I would love to know!
Principia :) it does a lot more than just that, it adds n body physics in the game which completely changes orbital mechanics (more realistic) the way manoeuvres work it’s basically a complete overhaul to the stock physics system
@@Carnasajust one more thing I’ve already done Apollo, Gemini, mercury, Vostok, voscod and Soyuz and I’m a bit stump on what else to do so I’m wondering if you have any ideas
@@Carnasa you didn't know it because it's not true this guy just made it up or heard it somewhere. Yuri Gagarin completed exactly one orbit around the Earth which took him 108 minutes
I’ve been trying to get a running install of rp-1 but every time I try using Ckan it just opens up in my terminal. I’ve tried manually installing it but it always gives an error where it says “Your RP-1 install has not been installed correctly.” I’ve installed all of the requirements and their dependencies. I do use Mac so maybe that might be the problem
To add on a bit more, Most of the install is fine albeit a lot of things are broken. I’ve tried setting up just a normal RO play through and that has similar problems
USSR was not "ahead" in the space race until the landing. First animal in space was Germany during the war then the US, I think multiple times even. First woman in space means nothing, really who they put in the can does not matter. O and by the way she was just some sex worker they pick out of a line up because she looked like "the average Russian woman". She was so bad they removed controls out of fear she would kill her self be mistake if they left them in, despite that she still failed all mission goals other then not dying. The list of USSR first is very cherry picked to make USSR (Communism) look better and some are just out right lies. The firsts that matter was done by the US besides first to orbit and first crewed orbit.
I agree that the idea that the USSR was "ahead" in the Space Race is quite incorrect and misleading, but calling Valentina Tereshkova a "sex worker they picked out of a line-up" is just tremendously insulting and wrong. She was a textile worker by profession and was already a competent skydiver and parachutist by the time she was inducted into the program. She also did indeed exert manual control over the spacecraft, even correcting an error in the descent program. It's true that official Soviet flight records didn't rank her performance as highly as the other Vostok cosmonauts, but this can be at least partially attributed to her physical discomfort at the time. Please refrain from lies that can be debunked with a simple sourced Wikipedia search.
@@grantexploit5903 She was a sex worker at night because her day job did not pay the bills, that is a well known fact among space historians. Official Soviet records never show how F'd up the country was and can not be treated as if correct. The reports of her failures are from the engineers after USSR fell and includes them saying the dogs were easier to train.
Yeah, there's a bit of a qualitative difference between putting fruit flies in space by sending a rocket up and then down again, and sending an entire ass dog into orbit
1961 crewed orbit, can’t wait to see the crewed Mars landing in the 70s.
Haha that’d be nice :p I’m a little worried about funding running dry after moon boots though, with p&lc that’s a very real concern!
@@Carnasathe martians are coming. You need to prepare!
I guess you should work on reusable or really cheap rockets then. [NOT SHUTTLE]
Maybe try super cheap rockets like the Soyuz scaled up?
@@Aurora_Synth my entire playthrough up to this point has been trying to keep rockets as cheap as possible :p my moon landed cost about 1/3rd of what a Saturn V equivalent would have, and it can still land two crew on the moon!
On the other hand. (reusable rocketry)
what about a variant of the ULA Vulcan rockets concept of smart reuse with a traditional ablative heat shield?
I've used this concept on a JUNO new origin career playthrough, on the rocket that's my current profile pic.
Curious to see if it would work in KSP RP1, if so it would be a hell of a lot safer than a shuttle like reusable space plane.
bro scared me with the sad music on the suborbital hop , i thought they were about to die.
The Mercury Capsule hatch was bolted in place with 70 bolts.
and it had explosive bolts.
IIRC, the soviets had an advantage early on because they had bigger launchers.
All early launchers were ICBM based.
But the USSR needed bigger launchers because they couldn’t (initially) make small/lightweight nuclear warheads like the Americans could. Since the Americans could make small, lightweight warheads, they didn’t need to design huge ICBMs.
The first dedicated nonICBM American launcher was the Saturn I
Actually, from a strict perspective, the first almost-a-year of American orbital spaceflight (from Explorer 1 to SCORE) was not powered by ICBM-derived vehicles-the Jupiter-C "Juno I", Vanguard, Thor-Able, NOTS-EV-1 Pilot "NOTSnik", and Juno II were all either bespoke or shorter-range missiles with extra stages. But this only further emphasizes the size differences.
A large part of why the United States was still so competitive in spaceflight is that they weren't just able to miniaturize nuclear warheads much better than the Soviets could, but electronics. Explorer 1, Vanguard 1, and Pioneer 4's functionality compared favorably with that of Sputnik 1 despite being almost or more than an order of magnitude lighter-heck, the never-definitively-successfully-launched Pilot test satellite had the potential for very rudimentary infrared imaging despite massing only as much as a 1U CubeSat, in 1958!
Mate, I think the crashing thing is due to Principia. If you've been running a save for a while now and have launched enough stuff, the memory backlog with P becomes absolutely MASSIVE! Had a similar thing happened to me quite a while ago. It's why I decided to part ways with that mod, unfortunately, cause it is awesome.
IIRC they fixed the memory build-up (or improved at least ? : P), but yeah I guess complicated noodle display comes at a cost... ^^
@@Kurgutt here's to hoping! Honestly, I can't imagine they wouldn't have improved it since I last used it
The "this vessel is just cursed upon decoupling" is unlikely to be memory-related, but it might be the same issue as Principia issues #3855 or #3802.
From my own experience, the memory issues are definitely much better than they used to be. Even being extremely aggressive with deleting old vessels, I abandoned a career in 1.10.1 (late 2021, I want to say Principia Gröbner?) due to extremely frequent OOM. Never had memory issues with it in a career in 1.12.3 (mid-2022 on), even being very sloppy with leaving dead satellites and upper stages in orbit, and with far higher flight rates too - perusing the changelog, Harish-Chandra looks like it might have been the version that fixed the big issues. The save file size difference is also dramatic - 320MiB with 89 launches versus 37MiB with 168 (though a tiny fraction of that saving will be due to KSPCF stripping indentation, and it's not apples to apples as both include sounding rockets and the latter a dozen plane flights, neither of which should impact Principia in the long run).
@@ilmcamam Wow! That's a STUNNING improvement! Heck... might give it another go!
I see the PR center is set to break neck speeds just like the rocket development. So many vids so quickly keep up the good work! 🚀
I had a similar stuck-fairing problem and I found that the fairing's hitboxes are a bit wrong and that moving any stuff on the bottom of the fuel tank (RCS tanks, etc.) elsewhere (inwards, into a cylindrical nonradial tank, etc.) fixed that issue for me
If you are using RO Capsules you can extend the floating pack, if you right click the mercury heat shield
bro this guy is uploading so quick
I find it funny how you said you could’ve beat Yuri Gagarin but needed to do an uncrewed flight first, which is funny since that’s what happened in real life, Werner von Braun wanted to do a test with a chimp before they did a crewed test and this caused the soviets to beat the Americans to orbit.
That was a better test flight than spaceX 😝
the schedule has been off, i had no idea you'd update this quick.. T_T
great episode tho!!
What are those trusses you are using to lengthen the RCS? You also used them to mount a dish for the Venus mission.
Can’t look at the video right now but if o remember correctly most likely just procedural parts, I use them a lot for stuff like that!
God damn safety concerns with firing Kerbals very high on the top of very big explosions.
2:05 While it didn't exactly use the lowest-energy trajectory (New Shepard comes much closer to that), Redstone-Mercury was far more sub-orbital than the Garrison Suborbital Vehicle-the single-stage Redstone couldn't carry any payload to orbit by itself and would have roughly-equivalent LEO payload capacity to the Thunderbolt only if 7-core asparagus-staged, while one could conceivably make a crewed spacecraft that could be carried to orbit on a Thunderbolt.†
3:20 To be honest, I don't like the narrative that the N1 itself caused the Soviet Union to lose the Space Race. The (oddly, given the Soviet Union's typical economic organization) decentralized and disorganized Soviet space program lacked the initiative and coordination to manage a crewed lunar landing-if as a consequence of better organization the N1 was given more and more timely funding and resources allowing more and earlier test launches, the Soviet Union could well have at least made it to the Moon with people. Another factor that IMO really doesn't get as much attention as it should is the USSR being considerably behind the US in electronics technology, leading to Soviet spacecraft (particularly uncrewed spacecraft) being substantially heavier and less reliable than comparable American ones; for some early examples, Explorer 1, Vanguard 1, and Pioneer 4 were more functional than Sputnik 1 despite being almost or more than an order of magnitude lighter. This ultimately has its roots in the Stalinist disdain for cybernetics and machine intelligence-I would go so far as to say that if the more avant-garde intellectual faction of the Bolsheviks triumphed during the revolutionary period, the United States would have no chance in the Space Race, _ceteris paribus_ .
7:55 A Humphrey-cycle Kerolox engine could theoretically provide over 400 seconds.
17:15 One of the things I dislike about Realism Overhaul is the lack of any single-person EVA-capable capsule, making things like my alternate-historical Enoch missions unsimulatable without additional mods I do not know exist.
17:55 Unfortunate that there has never been a mod to replace the Kerbal _models and animations_ with those of humans. (Or, um, other species... I want to fly my vulpine cosmonaut character pls...)
†The gondola used in the Man High balloon missions, of approximately equivalent mass, was proposed to be modified for use in Redstone-boosted suborbital crewed space missions, this being abandoned for a perceived lack of growth potential... meanwhile, in my batshit "Man to the Moon by the end of the decade" concept, that gondola is heavily modified with an ICBM heat shield and mated to an Atlas-Hustler boosted with 4 development Minuteman boosters to send a man (colostomized and possibly under sedation much of the time) on a Lunar free return trajectory in late December 1959.
Did you not test the Mars flyby craft before launching it?
Hello !
Nice flight ;)
How do you rename kerbals ? I would love to do it
I use a mod called ship manifest :) although that did mess up my install doing it so in the future I'm just going to be editing the save file, not sure if there's any tutorials of how to do that but basically open up your save file in a text editor (I'd recommend making a back up first incase you mess it up, trust me thats been a lifesaver for me haha) and replace all instances of the kerbal's name in the save with the one you want it to be, depending on mods, length of the save file and what you've done with said kerbal there could be quite a few bits to change!
Everything I find says the Mercury hatches were not welded. There were maybe two held shut and locked mechanically and the rest were bolted with explosive bolts for quick evac. Can't find any mention of them being welded.
Well I did just find an incorrect article that claims bolts 'weld' things together, in regards to the hatches.
@carnasa any spaceplanes in the pipeline? Or is it to early to consider such a project.
Will you ever finish farewell KSP or not since it seemed like a good concept and i do kind of miss it.
I do want to at some point, I mentioned it in the first episode of this series that I want to get back to it, and might take a break from this after moon landings, but I also want to finish coming home too, I’ve got a list of half finished things I really need to get to!
@@Carnasa Oh yes i do agree that finishing on the pre recorded content for this series and then finishing the other series would be really good.
Hi carnasa grate vid
Mod called principia :) adds n body physics to the game for extra ‘realism’ :p
@@Carnasa oh ok so they are like this purpose or they are bad calculated?
USSR had first satellite, first animal in orbit, first human in space, first multi crew, first space walk, first woman in space.
Nope. First animal in space was Germany on a V2 during the war, O and then the US multiple times.
@@Thorgon-Cross I've corrected it to orbit. I t was Laika I was referring to. Just used the wrong words. Thank you, kind interenet stranger. Happy Kerballing .
Don't forget first space station, first modular space station, first lunar impactor, first lunar lander, first rover, first interplanetary lander (Venus), and first mars lander
@@comrade-princesscelestia4907 also the only ever time someone has docked to an out of control space station while in a roll.
They didn’t do any research though. Their space program was more about showing America who’s boss instead of doing research. The Americans did research and studied space. Also, most of the Soviet rockets were more it just works.
I don't remember who had the same crashing issue before, but they said that uninstalling the making history dlc resolved it
Think it might've been penguin
so i have a few questions. my procedural wings don't like resize and stuff, they just stay as squares. also, my textures for my planets look like actual frozen vomit. how did you get yours to look that realistic?
Have you tried hovering over the procedural wing and pressing J? That’s the button to shape them :) alternatively pressing B and T while hovering over the wing will shape them too! Just need to move the mouse with that, no need to click.
As for the planet textures, I’m using 64k RSS Reborn textures from ballistic fox which seriously up how the planets look! They’re very very demanding though and I think 32-64gb of RAM is recommended to use them, you don’t really see it that much in the videos but it does make my game quite slow too, and that’s with a 3070ti and an i9 13900 so yeah need quite a beefy pc for it!
@@Carnasa this helps out insanely, thank you a lot. but I was trying to get into my game then all a sudden I got a b9 part switch fatal error. i was wondering if you have ever gotten this and what to do. I've re installed it and made sure that I had the latest version. i downloaded it using ckan but every single time I try to fix it it just still comes up. again, if you know any tips or any ways to fix it, I would love to know!
What mod are you using to change navball texture and speed indicator?
Principia :) it does a lot more than just that, it adds n body physics in the game which completely changes orbital mechanics (more realistic) the way manoeuvres work it’s basically a complete overhaul to the stock physics system
*eats the comment section* yummers
Carnasa you should tagg Enter Shikary to your video's
i think they would love this 😀
Haha not sure how I would, I think Rou is (or was) pretty active on Twitter/X but yeah they’re very much into space and science and all of that :p
Also just finished an Ksp n1 mission on ps4
Bro how
@@sheeps4485you don’t want to know
That sounds like pain, I’ve never played console ksp but I’ve heard it’s not quite as stable as pc so an n1 with all those engines…
Hats off to you :p
@@Carnasaholy moly, did not expect you to reply just want to say I love your content
@@Carnasajust one more thing I’ve already done Apollo, Gemini, mercury, Vostok, voscod and Soyuz and I’m a bit stump on what else to do so I’m wondering if you have any ideas
Yuri Gagarin didn’t even orbit Earth ONCE on Vostok 1, he landed west of the launch site without completing a full orbit.
I did not know this! So really he only went suborbital? Or did he achieve orbital velocity and came back down before completing one full orbit?
@@Carnasa you didn't know it because it's not true this guy just made it up or heard it somewhere. Yuri Gagarin completed exactly one orbit around the Earth which took him 108 minutes
Carnasa, I'm sorry to tell you this, a Centaur is half Bull
Edit: I am Stupid
You thinking of a Minotaur? :p centaur is definitely half horse!
@@CarnasaI am incredibly Dim today. LOL I KNEW THAT XD. I CANT BELIEVE I DID A "ERM ACKHTUALLLYYYY" and then was very wrong.....
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I’ve been trying to get a running install of rp-1 but every time I try using Ckan it just opens up in my terminal. I’ve tried manually installing it but it always gives an error where it says “Your RP-1 install has not been installed correctly.” I’ve installed all of the requirements and their dependencies. I do use Mac so maybe that might be the problem
To add on a bit more, Most of the install is fine albeit a lot of things are broken. I’ve tried setting up just a normal RO play through and that has similar problems
Obligatory "engagement" comment again!
Too late 😢
USSR was not "ahead" in the space race until the landing. First animal in space was Germany during the war then the US, I think multiple times even. First woman in space means nothing, really who they put in the can does not matter. O and by the way she was just some sex worker they pick out of a line up because she looked like "the average Russian woman". She was so bad they removed controls out of fear she would kill her self be mistake if they left them in, despite that she still failed all mission goals other then not dying. The list of USSR first is very cherry picked to make USSR (Communism) look better and some are just out right lies. The firsts that matter was done by the US besides first to orbit and first crewed orbit.
I agree that the idea that the USSR was "ahead" in the Space Race is quite incorrect and misleading, but calling Valentina Tereshkova a "sex worker they picked out of a line-up" is just tremendously insulting and wrong. She was a textile worker by profession and was already a competent skydiver and parachutist by the time she was inducted into the program. She also did indeed exert manual control over the spacecraft, even correcting an error in the descent program. It's true that official Soviet flight records didn't rank her performance as highly as the other Vostok cosmonauts, but this can be at least partially attributed to her physical discomfort at the time.
Please refrain from lies that can be debunked with a simple sourced Wikipedia search.
@@grantexploit5903 She was a sex worker at night because her day job did not pay the bills, that is a well known fact among space historians. Official Soviet records never show how F'd up the country was and can not be treated as if correct. The reports of her failures are from the engineers after USSR fell and includes them saying the dogs were easier to train.
Yeah, there's a bit of a qualitative difference between putting fruit flies in space by sending a rocket up and then down again, and sending an entire ass dog into orbit
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