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BMW K1600 GT Brentune ECU Flash! Is this software worth it? For all K1600s - GT GTL B Grand America.
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- We run our two BMW K1600 GTs on the dyno, before and after a Brentune ECU flash. This works for all 2017 and up BMW K1600 motorcycles, whether a GT, GTL, Bagger or Grand America. The results will amaze you! Good news, they also have packages for all K1600s from 2011 to 2016 too!
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Wow, thanks. I have followed some Bren Tune testimonials on forums but your video is much more detailed and informative. You have made a believer out of me. I have a 2017 K1600GT.
BTW, that’s $875 for us Canadians.
Hi, I have a 2017. Did you do it and would you recommend it?
RIP man. Good knowing you.
😂 what?
@@HighMaintenancePS he died in a motorcycle accident
Very interesting and good timing. My controller will be at my door step tomorrow. 93 octane readily available so you know what I'll be running.
I’ve got a ‘21 K1600b and I put a BrenTune on it right after the 600 mile break in period. It wasn’t a slow bike from the factory but the tune made it a screamer! There’s so much unlocked potential in those bikes it’s a shame the EU forced BMW to neuter it. Best money I ever spent 👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Great work!
Glad you liked it!
It's not only in the 1600 series.. the 2006 k1200gt as well had to have software update too
Nice service. Think it would be easy to fab a ramp as to ride on to dyno. Nice !!
I'd definitely want to do something differently, but they have their system figured out. Thanks for watching!
Thanks. I've been curious about the Brentune.
I am very interested in using the Brentune on my 2021 K1600 but I don’t want to jeopardize the factory warranty. If I weren’t concerned about the warranty I would have absolutely done this by now. I would love to unlock the potential of this motorcycle.
It is very quick and easy to return the bike to stock, undetectable form form. If you need to have the bike serviced, just reload the stock file. Only takes 5 minutes.
I did the Bren Tune on my 2018 K1600B when it had 1,000 miles on it. Now it has 15,000 and has been flawlesss. Definately worth the money. It is a totally better responding bike with the Bren tune. Do it.
Is that a car tire on first bike?
Many thanks !
Just took a 3 day trip to Vegas. Watch for that video soon!
I got this for my R18 - cant wait to see the result after the download. That hesitance off the line at traffic lights is awful.
I've not heard of anyone doing it to the R18 yet. Will be very interested in hearing your review! Please share when you have time.
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure I’ll let you know 👍
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure hi mate, I just got around to the flash download and it’s certainly much sportier in my go to “Rock” mode. I like it, perhaps could still have bit more of a kick from idle to first launch but the pick up through the revs is impressive. Just got to make sure I don’t mess it up going back to stock before the next service!
It sounded like the 2012 wasn’t reviving out all the way… usually this means fuel filters are clogged… if the fuel filters are clogged, you need to do a fuel flow test, (not fuel pressure), and you will most likely find that the filters will need replacing on the older vehicle… replacing them will make a significant difference to the power… my 2012 put out 145hp at the back wheel…
Thanks! I was thinking air filter or cats - I'd not thought of the fuel filter. It's now on my list!
Maybe. But also different dynos measure differently.
There's a car tyre on the rear wheel,
Brentune has a phase 1 and phase 2 component. What would the power difference be like on your 2012?
Unfortunately, the '12s don't respond as well. But hey, even 10 hp would be good, right? :)
Can't believe folk actually run car tyres on motorcycles! Only in America 😏
I'm curious if the car tire on the one bike would add a bit to the horse power reading over the bike with the motorcycle tire because of much more surface contact with cylinder on the dyna machine.
Would be interesting (in the interest of weight savings) to put a cat delete midpipe and some modded stock cans 😎
Remus makes headers and cat delete. Would be fun!
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure Yeah, saw those; ain't cheap but nothing made for BMW ever is 😏
I've got a 2021 GTL. Plan on doing this in the spring. Kinds waiting till I have a few more miles on the motor. Only have 2300 now. Do you know if it voids the warranty? I got the extended warranty.
It is undetectable. No warranty issues.
The warranty is recognized only when it is inspected at the official service center every 5,000km.
Do I have to restore it to its original state every time I check it?
Isn't it detected whether it is tuned or not during the inspection?
There is no way for the dealer to detect the flash, even if they went looking for it. If you have a major engine failure and you want peace of mind you can reinstall the stock tune in just a few minutes before taking it to the dealer. Regardless, they would have to prove that the tune caused the engine failure. Only then would there be a potential issue. It won't affect the warranty for any other system - regardless what the naysayers on the internet might tell you.
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure Thank you for your reply. I bought it thanks to you.
is that a car tyre on the bike ?
Yup! half the cost, 4 times the life and no change in high speed handling. It requires the slightest bit more effort under 30 mph, but it only takes a few miles to adapt. And there's a HUGE improvement in wet braking!
Did you test everything in "Dynamic" mode, and does Brentune update profiles for each mode? I have the same two bikes that you do -- a white 2012 GT and a silver 2020 GT Sport and have noticed the same loss of throttle response in the 2020. Dynamic mode helps somewhat, but still short of what I was used to with the 2012.
The Brentune makes a big difference, but man I love the 2012's response. It does update across the board, but since power was the point of the test, I figured I'd only run it there. Good question though! Might require a retest, lol...
Did you do the BrenTune install yourself? Any issues (error messages, etc?) I've watched the Bren Install videos...looks like a LOT of steps have to be done exactly in order or else!
I did it myself, before watching the video, lol. I've done this on cars a few times so I did understand the basic steps. Follow the directions and you shouldn't have any trouble. I loaded the 91 and 93 tunes, and can always revert to stock as needed. Love it!
RIP Jeff ..❤your videos🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️🪶
Hi JB, the first bike you put on the dyno was a 2020? You said it was making 138 hp. Just about everyone is saying this bike makes 158 - 160 hp. Must be at the crank, because the dyno doesn't lie. Wish we could have seen you ride it after the tune. Also, after the tune, did you notice if your idle dropped any at cold start? I was thinking about buying an adventure bike pretty soon. I kind of like the idea of a bike that can handle the dirt and trails. Problem with that is there aren't many trails where I live. Now I'm thinking about a big street bike. I love the BMW and also the Gold Wing.
You are correct, all manufacturers rate power at the crank. 15% losses are typical and this works out to 14%, so BMW's driveline is pretty efficient. The midrange just woke up and peak power is now 1000 RPM lower, so you don't need to spin it as high for the same grunt. Peak torque is now up to 130 ft lbs at the wheel, so 150 at the crank. But the biggest gain is really in throttle crispness, especially just off idle. Even if you never use the added power, the way it rides is so much nicer! You're looking at a Goldwing, which is like looking at an Accord vs a 3 series. Even if the performance is similar, the way the BMW goes down the road is just totally different. Some people immediately get it, others don't care. That's why Lexus is so popular. It's an appliance. Do you have a good relationship with your washer and dryer? Ever look back when you walk out of the laundry room? :) It's that sort of difference. :)
All factory horse power figures are quoted at crank. Motorcycles typically loose 20hp through the driveline.
Would the different rear tires make a reading vereat
Not if they are the same diameter, which they are. Good question though!
My question is why does BMW claim 158 - 160 hp?
Engine power is measured at the flywheel, not at the ground so there are losses involved in the transmission, gear box and final drive. Most people figure 15% loss. The bike made 138 stock, which is a 14% loss. Right where it should be. :)
Will the numbers differ if you have the same bike dynoed on an inertia dyno and then have it dynoed on an eddy current dyno? I really don't know much about them.
That's a really good question! I was really just interested in the change between flashed and unflashed. But that does raise an interesting question. Hmmmmm.
All dyno’s read differently. They give you an estimate.
Why do you have a car tyre on your rear wheel of the first bike? Are you aware that you need a radiused tyre so the bike doesn’t tip off in corners?
4 times the tire life, with 1/2 the cost of a motorcycle tire. And it doesn't really change the handling that much. Watch the rest of my 'darkside' videos to learn more! ua-cam.com/video/DnnDrLSjwJw/v-deo.html
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure I suppose it’s fine in the US and Canada, but in the UK and in Europe you’d have big problems. The corners/bends are a lot tighter and that drop off would be dangerous, especially since you have no tread on the sides. I’m not sure if it’s legal in the UK or Europe to stick a car tyre on a motorbike.
If it works for you then that’s fine, but I’ve never scrimped on tyre costs since that’s lol that’s keeping you shiny side up. Back in 2011, I had 4 rear punctures in two months. All of them could have been mended, but I bought new rear tyres every time. That’s just my tuppence worth (or two cents worth) I just believe that tyres are crucial.
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure PS, I love J Bear though!
@@albertol1529 Yes, some countries specifically forbid it. Here, we are able, thankfully.
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure I just checked, it’s completely illegal in the UK. If your bike has a car tyre fitted, and the bike is over 3 years old (first MOT check) it will fail the annual safety/roadworthiness test.
If you fail the MOT for a vehicle. It cannot be used on a public road until the faults have been rectified and then it has to pass the MOT re-test. Thus, if you own a brand new bike and when it needs a rear tyre, you put a car one on, until the first MOT, you can get away with it. However, I think the Police would take a grim view of it, if you were stopped, especially since we are massive on safety in the UK and Europe.
In the UK, the only time you can legally fit a car tyre is to a sidecar. Only the side car can have a car tyre or a bike tyre. We also have a load of laws on tread patterns, aspect ratios, tread depth and sidewall condition. To be truthful I’m glad I live in a country where safety is prioritised, because if you fit a car tyre to a bike, everything will be affected from suspension, handling, grip and braking distances.
It is of course, a matter of choice, but I’ve never ever come across someone who would use a car tyre on a bike in 22 years of riding!