The Dark Truth Behind Darth Maul’s Plan if Ahsoka Chose to Join Him [THEORY]

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  • @geetslys
    @geetslys  4 роки тому +91

    Join my discord and hang out with the community - discord.gg/geetslys

    • @sbattle9298
      @sbattle9298 4 роки тому +1

      Geetsly's should make video about Commander Cody’s battle tactics compared to other Marshal Commanders with their Jedi Generals

    • @JeremyWilliamson
      @JeremyWilliamson 4 роки тому +1

      I think Maul wanted ANAKIN to join him as his apprentice... he said Skywalker was the KEY TO EVERYTHING. Sith ALWAYS betrayed their masters to take over... Maul was wanting to kill Palps. Then HE could just appoint someone to rule the galaxy, just like he did on Mandalore.

    • @Thehomelessathlete
      @Thehomelessathlete 4 роки тому

      where did the clip of savage and maul fighting the twilek jedi and master di come from??

    • @tylerdevries8226
      @tylerdevries8226 3 роки тому

      Hey ashoka palpatine is my master dont belive me tell the jedi council and have a midiclorian test on ask him to use it sweet im off now to take control of the cis council old friends with that magot guy go all the way back to naboo crises

    • @flyingvct7214
      @flyingvct7214 3 роки тому

      Mauls plans are like the worlds biggest lake it mite be big on the surface but its only an inch deep

  • @jeffo7799
    @jeffo7799 4 роки тому +1063

    If maul wasn’t so obsessed with revenge for most of the clone wars he could have been a huge threat

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  4 роки тому +126

      facts

    • @jeffo7799
      @jeffo7799 4 роки тому +19

      Geetsly's and if he wasn’t one you said going insane

    • @chaoticako9269
      @chaoticako9269 4 роки тому +16

      i 100% agree

    • @fulcruum7567
      @fulcruum7567 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah

    • @jamesdavis9036
      @jamesdavis9036 4 роки тому +19

      @Brainjock What character had what obsession? Maul's was revenge, Anakin's was keeping Padme safe, Sidious's was power... to my shame, I can't think of any other ones.

  • @Finn_7117
    @Finn_7117 4 роки тому +130

    No, an outsider can’t just rule mandolore
    Haha big chair mine now

  • @InveterateMendaciousness
    @InveterateMendaciousness 4 роки тому +23

    I genuinely believe maul was one of the most intelligent characters in the clone wars, but his potential was squandered due to the manner in which he was raised. not to mention the mental instability.
    Sam Witwer portrayed his intellect spectacularly.

    • @fruitylerlups530
      @fruitylerlups530 Рік тому

      hes smart but soooo naive. Its his ultimate downfall, I think he genuinely felt lonely and he formed sorta twisted codependencies with people. I dont think he "loved" many people but i'm very convinced he loved Savage. He was deprived of true kinship through his life, it does actually seem like he wanted a "friendship" of sorts with Ahsoka and Ezra but his twisted upbringing wouldn't let him see it that way. Look at the way he is with Savage, he 100% treats him like a brother but when Savage brings it up he's like "no, i'm your master, youre my apprentice", he just wasn't raised to let himself feel these things.
      Its tragic, but hey it makes for a compelling villain.

  • @joelker41
    @joelker41 4 роки тому +279

    Maul wanted to emulate Sidious by having an apprentice. Every force user he encountered, even his own brother, he wanted to turn into an apprentice. I dont know of he knew about the Rule of 2 but in his mind I think he likely didn't consider himself a sith lord without an apprentice.
    He doesn't try to kill Ahsoka or Ezra, he tries to get them to be his apprentice. Almost his singular, dogged focus.

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 4 роки тому +60

      He tried multiple times in fact with Ahsoka. Even after she defeated him, took Mandalore, and imprisoned him the first thing after being released you would think he’d show anger towards her but instead he figures they’re allies and starts to go on about a plan to escape. I do think that after Savage a part of him did just want to feel the void of him losing his brother. When talking to Ezra he does pretty much say they could be like brothers.

    • @LMG1792
      @LMG1792 3 роки тому +28

      Exactly. I think part of it is while he was definitely dark side he wanted to have someone to teach and have under him and be better then sidious was to him. I could be wrong but it really seems like that with Ezra especially.

    • @budahbaba7856
      @budahbaba7856 2 роки тому +3

      I think that is a good insight, Joelker. Sure, Darth Maul was evil, but it doesn't mean he was without need for kinship. In any event, he was largely the product of his past.

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 2 роки тому +3

      He directly references the Rule of Two when he decides to properly cement Savage as his apprentice.

    • @fruitylerlups530
      @fruitylerlups530 Рік тому

      I dont think anyone in the line of Bane wasn't aware of the rule of 2

  • @ObiTheHomie
    @ObiTheHomie 4 роки тому +690

    Darth Maul is one of my favorite characters in the saga. All of my favorite characters were from the Clone Wars.

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  4 роки тому +78

      CW best show

    • @irishboi7100
      @irishboi7100 4 роки тому +30

      @@geetslys fives the best character in the show prove me wrong. Only time I've ever cried watching a tv death

    • @racoonlittle1679
      @racoonlittle1679 4 роки тому +2

      Darth Maul is one of the saddest but dumbest characters in SW...

    • @stephenquinn7931
      @stephenquinn7931 4 роки тому +7

      @@racoonlittle1679 dumb?

    • @84478
      @84478 4 роки тому +6

      He’s my *NUMBER ONE* favorite.

  • @republiccommando1513
    @republiccommando1513 4 роки тому +235

    Maul basically won that duel with Ahsoka. The only reason he lost was because he hesitated and she made him cut the beam underneath him causing him to fall. Also I think he's perfectly capable of running a planet by himself he just needed a corrupt Mandalorian politician like Almec to be the puppet leader since he needed a Mandalorian to run Mandalore. I agree that he didn't necessarily have a plan to defeat Sidious. I believe he just wanted to get Ahsoka on his side and go from there. He messed up telling her that he planned to kill Anakin. He was probably hoping he could convince Ahsoka to help him kill Anakin or would have probably tried to use her against him by threatening her. It would have been kinda awesome to see Ahsoka join him and convince him not to kill Anakin and instead convince Anakin to join them in killing THE SENATE. Of course if that happened then we wouldn't have the awesome story we have but y'all know what I mean.

    • @avinakiss21
      @avinakiss21 4 роки тому +6

      Exucute order 66

    • @g.0.0
      @g.0.0 3 роки тому +9

      I couldn't agree more maul was capable of killing anikin an with ahsoka anikin would get smoked

    • @gabrielchastain6091
      @gabrielchastain6091 3 роки тому +5

      @@g.0.0 yeah because just like the other time i believe i recall him fighting a darth ashoka like ashoka
      he was hesitating as he didnt want to kill his own apprentice so if maul did manage to get her fully on his side anakin would have low chances of getting through it aslong as its just anakin and not obi wan with him they could probably take him out hes holding back with ashoka and ashoka is going possibly full force along with maul going full force overwhelming him with a double bladed lightsaber user and a dual wielder both at once attacking him constantly im not saying anakin cant win but.... yeah

    • @Mrjohnnymoo1
      @Mrjohnnymoo1 3 роки тому +3

      I like your idea, yet I am doubtful he would kill Anakin, let alone early Vader. I don't believe Maul was a better Duelist than Dooku, and Anakin killed Dooku alone. (Granted Maul's clone did give Vader a run for his money, so I guess the question is whether or not Maul is a better fighter than Dooku.)

    • @Genesisthefirst109
      @Genesisthefirst109 3 роки тому +1

      If maul wasn't arrogant he would beat anakin but then again I don't think maul would be arrogant fighting anakin because he knows if he loses then sidous gets what he wants

  • @fulcruum7567
    @fulcruum7567 4 роки тому +945

    Ahsoka: Okay yeah I'll help you save the galaxy
    Maul: First we need to kill anak-
    Ahsoka: Haha lightsaber go woooosh

    • @jcoolguy1548
      @jcoolguy1548 4 роки тому +14

      Lol

    • @y.m.9402
      @y.m.9402 4 роки тому +14

      How can maul be in rouge one when he died in rebels

    • @secretsecret7268
      @secretsecret7268 4 роки тому +1

      Vojtěch Skopal plus he’s maul like ahsoka he’s invincible!

    • @arandomaccountthatmadeterr9720
      @arandomaccountthatmadeterr9720 4 роки тому +8

      Clone1: hey have you heard, were getting new orders
      Clone2: Yeah also I think the jedi will die tho..
      Clone1:Haha *gets order*
      Clone:Haha Gun go pew pew

    • @hannahblue7002
      @hannahblue7002 4 роки тому

      XD

  • @ahsoka5216
    @ahsoka5216 4 роки тому +333

    What I never understood is if Maul knew that Ahsoka was Anakin's apprentice from his interrogation with Jesse, then why did he think it was a good idea to tell Ahsoka that he planned to kill Anakin. Clearly, she wouldn't side with him if she knew it would lead to Anakin's death.

    • @unendingvoid
      @unendingvoid 4 роки тому +17

      He decided to troll

    • @Fi_Sci_
      @Fi_Sci_ 4 роки тому +89

      It was clearly an shortsighted moment on mauls part, he likely thought that once Ahsoka had agreed to help him that she could’ve dealt with the fact that her master was Fated to be a servant of evil, and that Maul planned on killing him, which we as fans know she was not okay with because of the connection the two had akin to that of brother and sister.

    • @juanyusee8197
      @juanyusee8197 4 роки тому +68

      I believe it was because while Maul eventually knew what Anakin was fated to be, he made a grave miscalculation and wrongly assumed about Ahsoka's and Anakin's relationship from the beginning and the circumstances that led Ahsoka to leave the Jedi Order. Yes, the Jedi Order abandoned Ahsoka when she needed them the most, but not Anakin, who never lost faith in her. And because of this, while Ahsoka did hold resentment towards the Jedi as a result, she had none towards Anakin, thus she still considers him to be her friend and never lost faith towards him, despite having lost faith in the Jedi Order.
      Combined with what he learned of what the Jedi did to Ahsoka and with his own knowledge of Anakin's destiny, Maul naturally made the erroneous assumption that Anakin was a lying, manipulative, traitorous, abusive, etc. person just like Sidious. What he failed to know is that Anakin was a good person who did not abandon anyone in his life at that point (especially Ahsoka during when she needed him the most).

    • @communistspaceman8971
      @communistspaceman8971 4 роки тому +9

      Desperation. He be really desperate

    • @googlesucks478
      @googlesucks478 4 роки тому +29

      1) He probably assumed they weren't close, since she left the order.

  • @infinitedonuts
    @infinitedonuts 4 роки тому +81

    Maul "lost" the duel with Ahsoka because he was never trying to kill her. Ahsoka was only able to gain the upper hand in the duel once she exploited his fatal flaw, his arrogance.

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 4 роки тому +5

      Exactly. The entire time he didn’t want to kill her.

    • @panzerscoutsmemories1152
      @panzerscoutsmemories1152 4 роки тому +4

      Infinite Donuts He won the duel
      End of discussion

    • @ARC--Fives
      @ARC--Fives 3 роки тому +3

      Well, she wasn't trying to kill him either

    • @infinitedonuts
      @infinitedonuts 3 роки тому +5

      @@ARC--Fives, yes but she was trying to disarm him which is what he did first.

    • @501thtrooper4
      @501thtrooper4 3 роки тому +1

      Basically what obi wan did to anakin

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle6431 4 роки тому +181

    The only dark truth in the galaxy far, far away is the...SENATE.

  • @keysliceace5015
    @keysliceace5015 4 роки тому +55

    I find maul a very sympathetic villain. He had a sick twisted childhood and sidious pretty much indoctrinated him into hating everything. He get’s thrown aside and goes insane out of hatred

  • @brothersgrimmgaming720
    @brothersgrimmgaming720 4 роки тому +62

    When Ahsoka agrees to help Maul, I feel she would've tried to convince Maul to go to the Jedi Council before taking on Sidious. But alas, when asked the question of what he wants with Anakin Skywalker, Maul is brutally honest and Ahsoka immediately sees Maul as a threat, not an ally.

  • @raeltarantino
    @raeltarantino 3 роки тому +50

    Darth Maul didn't fail at attaining the status of Sith Lord and neither was he simply a Sith Assassin; there's proof within two separate episodes where Palpatine says in the one, "and Maul, Maul was a loss.", where as in the other he said, "You are no longer my Apprentice, you have become a rival!". Sidious wouldn't have given him the respect of being called a rival unless he recognized him as in fact, a competing Sith Lord.

    • @fruitylerlups530
      @fruitylerlups530 Рік тому +1

      Showing this comment to Maul to cheer him up "see.. youre not an utter failure!"

  • @thedangerousivy
    @thedangerousivy 4 роки тому +128

    I think he wanted another Savage O'Press but more like as a sister.

    • @googlesucks478
      @googlesucks478 4 роки тому +48

      Yeah, he'd just lost his family (mother and brother) he saw her as a moral outcast from her order. I think he honestly hoped for a friend.

    • @mistermustacheguy2763
      @mistermustacheguy2763 4 роки тому +23

      Step sister 😏
      Okay people it was just a joke calm down 🤣
      Tbh I forgot about this comment

    • @thedangerousivy
      @thedangerousivy 4 роки тому +16

      I want this fanfic now

    • @marlkarx9853
      @marlkarx9853 4 роки тому +42

      @@mistermustacheguy2763 it would have cost you 0 dollars to not comment that

    • @anders8108
      @anders8108 4 роки тому +10

      The Dangerous Ivy Vitale yes please! someone make a fan fiction about this!

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 4 роки тому +143

    Darth maul is probably the most developed star wars character.
    EVER.
    He's also my favorite star wars character.

    • @chaoticako9269
      @chaoticako9269 4 роки тому +16

      personnally i think im a pretty good character but thats just me

    • @jeffo7799
      @jeffo7799 4 роки тому +5

      Archduke Poggle The Lesser kee ko veet

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  4 роки тому +25

      One of the most non main characters (talking about movie characters like skywalkers and solos) that has the biggest developments

    • @chaoticako9269
      @chaoticako9269 4 роки тому +5

      @@geetslys dude at first I was expecting geonosis and poggle to be involved regularly in separtist affairs and not to just be in a few episodes, I wanted him to essentially be like lott Dodd or nute gunray who are actually involved regularly with the separatists, same with wat tambor. The geonosians had such an opportunity to be great and geonosis could have been a separtist stronghold permanently throught the clone wars, much like raxus but more screen time

    • @racoonlittle1679
      @racoonlittle1679 4 роки тому +1

      @@chaoticako9269 oh I'M SORRY, who are you again?

  • @anders8108
    @anders8108 4 роки тому +42

    “It’s really not out of the question that he wanted another Savage, someone by his side that he could actually depend on. Which is kind of sad.” That line just hit different. It actually made me feel bad for the guy. 😕

    • @ahsokatano7225
      @ahsokatano7225 4 роки тому +1

      NOPE! Remember? Do you not remember why we didn’t join him? Because he wanted to kill our greatest friend and former master. I do kind of wish he had another friend though, that didn’t involve a plan to kill Anakin.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 Рік тому

      @@ahsokatano7225, let's be honest though, if Maul didn't pull that incredibly stupid move by saying he wanted to kill Anakin just to give Sidious the middle finger, you were all ready to join him. You said so yourself. Not that I blame you, but still.

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 4 роки тому +73

    I think Maul is a lot smarter then you give him credit for.
    And I think I have a better idea of what he planned on, based on what he told Ahsoka and his own Troops about thriving in the chaos to follow, it's clear what his plan was, after either killing Anakin or gaining a new apprentice he would retreat from Mandalore and hide out somewhere with his crime syndicate Crimson Dawn and have them gain power and resources until he felt he was ready to take on Sideous and the Empire. I also think he and Ahsoka together would actually stand a chance at beating Anakin, maybe a 40 percent chance of winning or 30 percent. Palpatine on the other head is another story altogether.

    • @darthnerd4432
      @darthnerd4432 4 роки тому +3

      I really dont think they could beat Anakin.
      1/10 at best

    • @zexalbrony4799
      @zexalbrony4799 4 роки тому +14

      @@darthnerd4432 Well, considering how well Ahsoka did against Vader in Rebels and given how skilled Maul is as we saw in The Clone Wars, I'm pretty confident in saying they at least have a 30 to 40% chance of winning. It wouldn't be a squash match, now if the pair fought Palpatine then it would be a squash just like when Maul and Savage took him on.

    • @ciaranbarr8474
      @ciaranbarr8474 4 роки тому +1

      I don’t think maul would have won, not even close, but this dude constantly shits on maul

    • @justchilling704
      @justchilling704 4 роки тому +7

      ZexalBrony479 I agree, but why’re you guys acting like Anakin is Palpatine level? Maul can very well defeat Anakin, I’m confused as to why it’s not clear.

    • @justchilling704
      @justchilling704 4 роки тому +4

      Darth Nerd I guess you guys just love Anakin, bc if we look at feats and stats, Mail can defeat Anakin, he’s no weaker than Dooku.

  • @angry_eck
    @angry_eck 4 роки тому +27

    maul is quite a gentlemen when it comes to truces so I think he was being wholehearted

    • @quickbinger1058
      @quickbinger1058 4 роки тому +3

      dooku is a gentleman when it comes to anything other than kicking people's butts

  • @abelievereverrising283
    @abelievereverrising283 4 роки тому +30

    His best chance at killing sidious was when in the Son of Dathomir he had mother Talzin fighting Sidious but at that time sidious had Dooku and Grevious

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 4 роки тому +7

      Such a shame. What’s interesting to me is how he was fully prepared to sacrifice himself so Mother Talzin could win

  • @darthnerd4432
    @darthnerd4432 4 роки тому +149

    "Anakin would have brought the whole planet down on him and beat him into jelly with his own legs"
    No.
    He would have brought the whole system down on him and beat him into particles with his own legs.

    • @racoonlittle1679
      @racoonlittle1679 4 роки тому +15

      But syke! Anakin has just lost his arms AND legs. Without sidious, he may have just begged Maul for his legs

    • @thegreyeyedcat9142
      @thegreyeyedcat9142 3 роки тому +3

      Retribution in bf2 was basically this before it was nerfed

    • @redshirt5126
      @redshirt5126 3 роки тому

      more likely he would have beaten Maul to death WITH THE PLANET.

    • @deadreset
      @deadreset 3 роки тому +1

      I'm willing to bet Ahsoka would be the only person, at least right after order 66, who would be able to turn Anakin back. Obi-Wan wasn't up to the task, couldn't talk Anakin out of it and couldn't even kill him.

  • @maxcesare6524
    @maxcesare6524 4 роки тому +22

    My theory is that maul knew about Order 66. In the episode “the phantom apprentice” Ahsoka was lured in a trap by maul in the end and when Rex and some other clones came, maul said “not yet” and was a little bit disappointed.

  • @kevinvassago
    @kevinvassago 3 роки тому +9

    Whoa whoa whoa, maul ran the underworld, save for the Hutt cartel, then became the leader of The Crimson Dawn for nearly 14 years. He may not have been emperor of the entire galaxy, but I'd hardly say that was a half baked failed scheme.

  • @SamuraiGhostGirl
    @SamuraiGhostGirl 4 роки тому +50

    Hello there.

    •  4 роки тому +10

      General Kenobi!

    • @jeffo7799
      @jeffo7799 4 роки тому +4

      Your a bold one

    • @dimond360_
      @dimond360_ 4 роки тому

      Heh heh heh kill him.

    • @maiacope6905
      @maiacope6905 4 роки тому

      General Kenobi

    • @anders8108
      @anders8108 4 роки тому

      your move

  • @gurun8071
    @gurun8071 3 роки тому +5

    I dont think you give Maul enough credit. Yes he was an assassin, and being an assassin inherently requires a level of strategy. Individual strategy yes, but that can be expanded into group strategy through time and experience. In my opinion, Maul was Robert E Lee, and Sidious was Grant. Both were brilliant, but had far different priorities. Maul focused on the short term battles. Sidious the War. Maul wasn't a bad strategist, he simply was more suited to small group planning, to small goals. But small goals and victories can be built upon.

  • @plagueis5013
    @plagueis5013 4 роки тому +8

    To quote 99, "you don't give him enough credit." Maul definitely couldn't have got in the way of palps' plans, but I think he's smarter than you say.

  • @axtothemax4356
    @axtothemax4356 4 роки тому +29

    Yea now that I watched this video I can see why Maul was dumber than I thought

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 4 роки тому +6

      Not dumb per se, he still achieved many things, just short sighted and a one track mind at times.

    • @keysliceace5015
      @keysliceace5015 4 роки тому +10

      He wasn’t dumb he was blinded by all consuming hatred

  • @cheyannelaliberte2731
    @cheyannelaliberte2731 3 роки тому +5

    I honestly just think he wanted someone by his side. He tried the same thing with Ezra in Rebels. It's heartbreaking. The poor guy needs a hug

  • @justchilling704
    @justchilling704 4 роки тому +8

    I think Maul could take Anakin, Anakin at his best still fell to Obi Wan.

    • @chrispersinger5422
      @chrispersinger5422 3 роки тому

      Actually Obi-Wan almost lost the fight, the famous last scene of the fight references how Obi-Wan "killed" Darth Maul on Naboo as Qui-Gonn's apprentice. The only reason Obi-Wan won that fight was because Anakin got very cocky and tried to use Obi-Wan's move against him, to which Obi-Wan immediately realized what he had to do.

  • @claytondunn2294
    @claytondunn2294 4 роки тому +12

    If maul had lured Anakin mace would have killed Palpatine and Anakin would kick maul’s ass

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 4 роки тому +2

      Yep

    • @OkIPullUp2915
      @OkIPullUp2915 4 роки тому +2

      nope are u dumb? Maul would have led a trap

    • @rfdempire49
      @rfdempire49 3 роки тому

      not too sure about that

    • @marcelmarcelian4435
      @marcelmarcelian4435 3 роки тому +2

      Nah Maul would of led a trap. Maul is way smarter than you think.

  • @anubismaat2813
    @anubismaat2813 3 роки тому +3

    I hope they rewrite his death because man, if he and Thrawn were the sequel trilogy villains, Disney would be swimming in gold.

  • @johndiaz1649
    @johndiaz1649 4 роки тому +6

    I saw mauls attempt on mandalore as a mini version of palpy taking control of the galaxy. Now hear me out, maul corrupted the mandalore government by using 2 armies against each other like the clones vrs the driod army. Maul had the right idea but he was too scared to do anything against palpy until it was to late

  • @MrSlimSheaD
    @MrSlimSheaD 4 роки тому +5

    Is there no possibility Maul wouldn’t have just gone to the Jedi and revealed Sidious? If he really wants him dead this seems like it would be the best way to do it, especially if he does so while Yoda is still on Coruscant.

    • @janinejohnstone468
      @janinejohnstone468 3 роки тому

      Might he have thought the Jedi wouldn't actually believe him, and therefore not help him with Sidious? I mean, he didn't see the Jedi Council as being particularly fair and just. They oversaw a lot of the unnecessary status quo which had made his life so hard; EG nobody was out there saving slaves or small children from the monsters who acquired them. The Jedi set themselves up as the policemen of the galaxy and then consistently failed everyone whose face and locality didn't fit. I bet he'd have doubted their ability to either believe him, or to care.

  • @VNM-Venom252
    @VNM-Venom252 4 роки тому +5

    Maul was a warrior first and Mastermind second. He was intelligent but not on the same level as Palpatine.

  • @theinquisitor18
    @theinquisitor18 4 роки тому +7

    The last one seems most likely. He knew sidious was on the verge of victory and that meant he was a dead man. Survival is his only instinct, but he would rather die than be captured by sidious.

  • @hannahblue7002
    @hannahblue7002 4 роки тому +10

    "-turn her to the dark side-" ..... That's *ship* talk.

  • @ahsokahaney
    @ahsokahaney 4 роки тому +4

    Maul and Ahsoka as a team, I gotta believe would give Palps and Vader a challenge and run for their money power wise in a fight

  • @piercepayumo4212
    @piercepayumo4212 4 роки тому +14

    Ahsoka: (glares) So this was your plan. You said you would stop when you kill Sidious. But you wanted to be the Emperor.
    Maul: (smirks) I lied.
    Ahsoka: Funny... I lied to.
    Maul: (confused) Wha-?
    (Blast)
    Maul: URK!
    (Maul falls to his knees and gasp at the gaping hole in his chest. He turns around and sees Rex with his blaster pistol drawn.)
    Maul: You... you can't do that. Your a Jedi.
    Ahsoka: (shakes head) I'm no Jedi.
    (Maul then falls to the ground dead.)
    Rex: So... what happens now?
    Ahsoka: Now? Now we deal with the empire.

    • @OkIPullUp2915
      @OkIPullUp2915 3 роки тому

      Maul would kill both Ahsoka and Rex

    • @edblake476
      @edblake476 2 роки тому +1

      @@OkIPullUp2915 Yeah. I like Geestly, but the fact that he thinks TCW Ahsoka > Maul is hilarious.

  • @marylynnewrye2648
    @marylynnewrye2648 4 роки тому +8

    I think that at first he was just an assassin but by the end of the clone wars he might have learned from his insanity, desperation and by watching his master then coming up with a good plan.

  • @jagnestormskull3178
    @jagnestormskull3178 4 роки тому +3

    My vibe from Season Seven was that Darth Maul had Anakin's future vision on steroids and that Talzin cured the insanity caused by his exile, but not the insanity caused by these constant visions of an ever changing future.
    Also, if Maul isn't good at long-term planning, then why did the Shadow Collective survive past Solo until sometime before Rebels? The Shadow Collective was not only Mandalore, it was also Crimson Dawn, Black Sun, the Pykes, etc, and he maintained rule over those syndicates well into the Imperial era.
    Also, I'm pretty sure Darth Maul actually became the Sith Apprentice after Darth Plagueis died. Briefly, yes, but still.

  • @scrawnyclownsnatch9656
    @scrawnyclownsnatch9656 4 роки тому +4

    The last theory is by far the best and most likely. In Rebels, Maul tries to do the same thing to Ezra and on Dathamere, he even hints at the idea of them becoming like brothers. When he said brother, he seems to reflect on the work, presumably thinking of Savage.

  • @jonathanpartridge3369
    @jonathanpartridge3369 4 роки тому +6

    It’s confirmed in rebels of how he feels and I like his ending, content and just I believe

  • @jeffreyaguilar8028
    @jeffreyaguilar8028 3 роки тому +2

    Plot twist, he did all this trouble just to ask out Ahsoka.

  • @kashmirfelton3320
    @kashmirfelton3320 4 роки тому +2

    Look buddy I don’t think you understand that maul is way more powerful than you think Ashoka is weaker than Maul way weaker those are the words of Dave Filoni maul is the third best lightsaber duellist of the sith said by a canon book and yes if he did win he would but what you’re saying is absolute bull because you just said that maul always thought overconfidently so yes he would know exactly what to do if he won

  • @coconutthecockatiel478
    @coconutthecockatiel478 4 роки тому +2

    I feel so bad for Maul, ngl

  • @M4j0rZ3r0
    @M4j0rZ3r0 3 роки тому +4

    I felt kinda bad for how Ahsoka treated Maul, even tho she had every right to treat him that way

  • @prezzyvcurrymuncher
    @prezzyvcurrymuncher 4 роки тому +2

    Ashoka would kick mauls ass??? That fight maul was not right in the head and was holding back because he wanted to turn her he disarmed her and embarrassed her maul can beat kenobi sometimes Ashoka ain’t nowhere near kenobis level or mauls maul going try hard would kill Ashoka

  • @Im-Not-a-Dog
    @Im-Not-a-Dog 2 роки тому +2

    Sidius: "This is my apprentice, Darth Maul. We trained him wrong on purpose, as a joke."

  • @euanbremner-harrison3624
    @euanbremner-harrison3624 4 роки тому +7

    I think maul might have had a small crush on Ashoka and that’s why he didn’t try to kill her straight away

    • @anders8108
      @anders8108 4 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @quickbinger1058
      @quickbinger1058 4 роки тому +1

      @@anders8108 do you really blame him. ahsoka couldn't you have just sensed his feelings. bro also i have found out about an entire community of people pairing characters with ahsoak. im talking. luxoka,anisoka,obisoka,rexoka,korkiesoka,steelasoka,sawsoka,maulsoka,cadsoka,padmesoka,satinesoka,bokatansoka,bobasoka and grivousoka.

    • @OkIPullUp2915
      @OkIPullUp2915 4 роки тому

      @@quickbinger1058 what? grivousoka??

    • @quickbinger1058
      @quickbinger1058 4 роки тому

      @@OkIPullUp2915 no joke

  • @mitchcoleman1238
    @mitchcoleman1238 4 роки тому +3

    I actually agree that Maul probably just wanted Ahsoka to get to Anakin. It was shown all throughout the clone wars that Ahsoka was the kink in Anakin armor, and Maul knew this!! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @rickardkarstark7684
    @rickardkarstark7684 4 роки тому +2

    Maul is the best character. Nobody can convince me otherwise.

  • @dovahkat9635
    @dovahkat9635 4 роки тому +3

    Going along with the idea that Maul just wanted someone to be there with him as the galaxy fell, that means he wasn't ready to be a sith. A true sith relies on nobody but themself.

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 4 роки тому +3

    Poor maul and his sucky plans

  • @Kirito-qc7kb
    @Kirito-qc7kb 4 роки тому +4

    I think it was a mix of having a friend and wanting to kill Sidious, but mostly the friend part

  • @drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438
    @drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438 4 роки тому +3

    Obi and Maul later realize they BOTH have ptsd :'(

  • @davidstrange2482
    @davidstrange2482 4 роки тому +2

    The clone wars show is a thousand times better than the sequel movies with deep character development and a lot more detail

  • @kingdot4677
    @kingdot4677 4 роки тому +5

    Do you think Jedi could use a Jedi mind trick to stop clones during order 66?

    • @ObiTheHomie
      @ObiTheHomie 4 роки тому +10

      " A jedi mind trick only works on the weak minded" - Ben Kenobi.

    • @kingdot4677
      @kingdot4677 4 роки тому +2

      Bassil Elshiekh good point

  • @CsSniper23
    @CsSniper23 4 роки тому +18

    I think Maul was just so done at that point he basically thought YOLO

    • @marlkarx9853
      @marlkarx9853 4 роки тому +5

      Vader killed people in a hallway
      Maul killed people WITH the hallway
      Evidence enough lol

  • @Kairyu_Gen1
    @Kairyu_Gen1 4 роки тому +3

    "Beating him into jelly with his own Droid legs." Why do I kind of want to watch this?

    • @jamesmadden5329
      @jamesmadden5329 3 роки тому

      Because maul vs the chosen one would be epic

  • @FuzzyChubbyPurpleUnicorn
    @FuzzyChubbyPurpleUnicorn 3 роки тому +2

    He would turn mail into jelly with his own droid legs. I spit my coffee out lmao thank you

  • @bigheadj.r.628
    @bigheadj.r.628 4 роки тому +3

    I could imagined if Ahsoka join Maul will be the one who comes up with the plans and Ahsoka tries to smooth out his plans to be more functional.

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 4 роки тому +1

      I could see that. Maul coming up with the general idea then Ahsoka refining it

  • @Rahhelthethird
    @Rahhelthethird 4 роки тому +5

    I thought Ben Kenobi killed Maul. I watched Rebels really infrequently. Did that happen after Ahsoka escaped from Vader and before Maul got offed in the sand dunes by Ben?

    • @ahsoka5216
      @ahsoka5216 4 роки тому +4

      Maul was killed after Ahsoka and Darth Vader's duel. Maul's death happened at the end of season 3.
      As for Ahsoka being saved by Ezra from Darth Vader, happened in season 4. The World Between Worlds concept is very complicated because Dave Filoni said it's not considered time travel. This means that Ahsoka was saved by Ezra before Darth Maul died, but Ezra doesn't save Ahsoka until 2 years after her duel with Darth Vader which is why the whole concept is complicated. In other words, Ahsoka's duel with Vader is happening at the same time Ezra is saving her which is why it's called The World Between Worlds since it's a place where time and space are still.

    • @Rahhelthethird
      @Rahhelthethird 4 роки тому +1

      @@ahsoka5216 Sounds like I missed quite an interesting storyline. I'll try to watch the corresponding episode some time. Thanks for explaining.

    • @ahsoka5216
      @ahsoka5216 4 роки тому +1

      @@Rahhelthethird No problem!

  • @nathannathan6339
    @nathannathan6339 4 роки тому +2

    Maul was one of the greatest lightsaber dualists in the galaxy 3rd to Anakin and palpatine but if he killed padme or Ashoka it would be over for him he would get destroyed he would destroy everything even killing Palpatine who maul feared maul maybe powerful but if he did that he would regret it

  • @volrosku.6075
    @volrosku.6075 4 роки тому +2

    Ploy Ashoka as Maul's captive pull some torturey bits (nothing serious) to pull Anakin away from Palpatine and let the Windu fight go on without Anikin's intervention... I'd give it a 5-10% chance of working and maul wouldn't have the tactical and technical acumen to fulfill this alone and for all we know, this plan would only end in Sidious showing up and killing them both for trying to get involved. though Rex probably had a way to contact just Anakin if things went south.

  • @Werrf1
    @Werrf1 3 роки тому +2

    Maul has always struck me as being much more of a 'normal' Sith or dark sider than Sidious was. Sidious, and to an extent Dooku, were successful in their plans in large part because they were so...well, Jedi-like. Self-disciplined, patient, cautious, hiding away the passions that power the Dark Side. Maul, on the other hand, seems the perfect example of how Yoda described the dark side: "Quicker, easier, more seductive". Especially when compared to Obi-wan. Maul peaked very early when he killed Qui-gonn, but his life after that saw the steady loss of his power. That's why his final duel with Obi-wan is my favourite lightsaber battle in all of Star Wars, because it shows perfectly how Obi-wan's power and wisdom had grown throughout his life, while Maul had only ever diminished.

  • @grinningchicken
    @grinningchicken 4 роки тому +1

    Maul had was he wasnt as powerful as he though he was.
    It goes back to what Yoda said. [The Dark Side is] quicker, easier, more seductive... easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice.
    Once a person turns to the dark side they get a quick boost and then their growth slows and stops. They are so arrogant that they can't really learn anything else very easily.

  • @domino_201
    @domino_201 4 роки тому +11

    that last one just made me super sad. Maul just wanted friendship ;-;

  • @chaseparsons7040
    @chaseparsons7040 4 роки тому +2

    some aspects of this seem unfair. Maul is much more than a simple assassin especially when you compare him to other force wielders of his time. Maul defeats Qui Gon, a highly respected jedi master, then he duels Obi wan and survives several times--obi wan being one of the greatest duelists in lightsaber history. Then take asajj ventress and compare her to maul. She is constantly embarrassed by other force users and duelists alike. Maul takes the philosophy of the sith to extreme levels. What is arguably the siths main goal after ultimate power? immortality. and through his anger and then through his hate he was able to survive his wounds on naboo. his hate fuelled him through his escape from sideous and he was only able to die, only willing to die when hew realized that it would not be for him to take revenge on palpatine but instead Luke would, in his words, "avenge us all." For those reasons and especially his deference to the dark side and sith philosophy in my mind make Maul a true lord of the sith and even though he had his flaws, he was certainly one to be feared.

  • @Asdf-wf6en
    @Asdf-wf6en 4 роки тому +4

    maul is a very sad character that you feel bad for.

  • @LMG1792
    @LMG1792 2 роки тому +1

    The thing with almec was maul had him in place to rule from the shadows. Maul did know how to manipulate. It's one of the things he was actually very good at. If he wasn't so focused on revenge he would have been much much more dangerous. As for his skill it seems like the lowered his power level when he fought Ashoka honestly.

  • @MattyPan118
    @MattyPan118 4 роки тому +1

    This legends back story you give. I disagree very much. Canon has even fully embraced the fact that Maul was Palpatines true apprentice

  • @roamingrivers7429
    @roamingrivers7429 3 роки тому +2

    Maul is certainly one of my favorite characters. I liked how this video was raw about his shortcomings, notably his limited capacity for long term planning and political maneuvering. At the end of the day, he did manage to run his own Crime Syndicates, though that seems to be the height of his long term organizational skills. If he had outlived Obiwan and Sidious, I could see him becoming a Crime Boss in the Outer Rim, maybe with a few systems under his control, toppling a Hutt or Two. Though he would no longer consider himself Sith, as he has dropped the Darth title by the time of Rebels, I could still see him taking a force sensitive apprentice under his wing. Though he would have come into conflict with the Luke’s Jedi Order and the New Republic. I would be curious to see a video like that, where Maul survived long enough to see the Death of Sidious and the Fall of the Empire in Return of the Jedi.

  • @saibotshawdow5090
    @saibotshawdow5090 4 роки тому +1

    Ure underestimate maul think maul. Maul one of the best dullest and pretty powerful when it comes to the force. U say he has 0 percent chance against ankin but if u put plot armor beside it's pretty evenly matched. When he lost to Ashoka he wasn't trying to kill her which him using the 7th lightsaber style which relighs on his anger and unpredictability.

  • @brettoelschlager8249
    @brettoelschlager8249 2 роки тому +1

    Maul had already built the Crimson Dawn at this point, though I don't think it was named as such yet. I'm pretty sure the plan he wanted her help with, was whatever he was doing with Crimson Dawn.

  • @thejurassicjungle1275
    @thejurassicjungle1275 4 роки тому +8

    He was trained as a Sith Assassin as a cover, for given the Rule of Two, Sidious had to keep Maul under cover from Plageuis, just like Dooku did by calling Ventress a Sith Assassin. Sidious originally planned for Maul to be his right hand man right into the Empire. Remember, he didn't know Anakin existed until The Phantom Menace.
    Ahsoka was also probably just trolling Maul like Kenobi and being arrogant. Maul would definiely stand a chance against Anakin.

    • @sageseeker9197
      @sageseeker9197 2 роки тому

      .... that strongly depends on whether or not Maul has the high ground.... and if Anakin saw somebody he loved die. Remember, this wouldn't exactly be Anakin fighting, this would be Vader. Vader stomps Maul.

  • @andrewhill8028
    @andrewhill8028 4 роки тому +1

    I feel that if Ahsoka and mail joined forces.... they would become grey Jedi.... light and dark together

  • @nilesgraham5529
    @nilesgraham5529 3 роки тому +1

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  • @folksydragoon4711
    @folksydragoon4711 3 роки тому +1

    Ironic how a one dimensional character who was only given a couple lines then “died” in their first debut, turns into one of the series most beloved and deep characters

  • @barnabassebesteny1490
    @barnabassebesteny1490 4 роки тому +6

    i thought that he wanted to kill ani

  • @martin9707
    @martin9707 4 роки тому +1

    Your videos are pretty good, but I cannot lower the bass on my speakers and your voice is super low, so the bass hurts my ears. The video is still worth watching for me. I dont know what I wanted to achieve with this comment. Have a nice day, reader

  • @momoheichou
    @momoheichou 4 роки тому +5

    Amazing video!! You’re great at explaining 👍

  • @manuelhils327
    @manuelhils327 2 роки тому +1

    if maul connected the syndicates that he previously puppetet and ruled uses the incredible might of the crime syndicates correct to take over the crumbeling seperatist and republic worlds and builds a formidable threat for the empire. I mean the separist army and systems didn´t just disappeared it was still out there without ruler full of fear. No Grievous that destroys the reputation no corrupt leaders with bounds to the empire (all beheaded by vader in one room) and eager to fight for their independence

  • @gabrielchastain6091
    @gabrielchastain6091 3 роки тому +1

    sidious: maul is just an assasin he cant think of long term plans
    Maul: proceeds to train a very strong apprentice get multiple syndicates on his side and takes over the whole of madalore also as sidious hints at right before he engages in battle with maul and his apprentice that maul is possibly planning on becoming powerful enough to overthrow sidious and also wants to rob sidious of getting anakin skywalker screwing sidious is plan that has been plotted over many of years
    sidious:wait you werent supposed to do that
    and yes i know that his plans are short term in when to execute them but still its just funny is all XD he still did more than sidious thought he would

  • @baki484
    @baki484 4 роки тому +3

    Can you please do more lightsaber duel analysis videos

  • @Christian-qd9sv
    @Christian-qd9sv 4 роки тому +2

    Dude really just crapped on maul for 10 minutes straight damn

  • @emily.giannozio3270
    @emily.giannozio3270 4 роки тому +3

    At first I definitely believed he was going to use Ahsoka to lure Anakin (and Obi-Wan) to Mandalore, if his plan to recruit her worked. But the thought of her being a replacement Savage made me sadder so I like that theory better 😔

  • @Alex-ov3vp
    @Alex-ov3vp 3 роки тому +1

    If maul had killed anakin, Windu would have killed palpatine without anakin to interfere (though they might not have known he was a sith if anakin didn't tell them)

  • @rmj7306
    @rmj7306 4 роки тому +6

    2:45 whiter than snow

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  4 роки тому +2

      very diverse planet

  • @darkmaster539
    @darkmaster539 Рік тому +1

    Maul is a true sith in canon. The whole assassin thing is pure legends. Dooku was the temporary sith while sidious waited for anikin. He says as much on a few occasions, and has no reason to lie.

  • @mofal_bluk9472
    @mofal_bluk9472 3 роки тому +1

    Damn, I really feel bad for maul. Even tho I agree with what you said, I still have the feeling you did him really dirty.

  • @mynameismin3
    @mynameismin3 4 роки тому +4

    The real question is "What was Dave thinking? What were Daves plans for Maul?"

  • @ericv.christian201
    @ericv.christian201 4 роки тому +3

    Yea interesting but im courious what could have happend If Ahsoka would have never left the temple. My bet she either was the last push Anakin needed not to stray to the darkside or on the flipside she would have been corrupted by Anakin already beliving the Jedi are corrupt and also would have become the Grand Inquisitor in stead of that Pau'an.

    • @racoonlittle1679
      @racoonlittle1679 4 роки тому +1

      Ooh! Inquisitor Ahsoka seems quite interesting!

  • @dillonb5317
    @dillonb5317 4 роки тому +3

    Google bing or use any search engine to see that darth maul was in fact a Sith lord and trained as one but was only meant to been trained as an assassin, that's what sidious's master was led to believe, but in fact was being train as a real sith lord and was even granted the title of darth. I'm not even finishing the video just because 1 minute in and you're already wrong

    • @GeneralGrievous-1138
      @GeneralGrievous-1138 4 роки тому

      Abominatus Nowhere is that actually stated, and nowhere does Maul or Sidious ever act like that's the case.

    • @Reality4Peace
      @Reality4Peace 4 роки тому

      @@GeneralGrievous-1138 Maul acts like he is a sith lord and Sidious tells Vader in the comics that Maul was a genuine loss while Dooku was always meant to be a placeholder. Maul was to be Sidious' apprentice.

    • @shonwalker7501
      @shonwalker7501 4 роки тому

      I had the same problem with the video now people are trying to claim maul isn't a sith even when sidious himself stated he was and was used a secret apprentice to help him overthrow plagieus but when maul died he had to resort to killing plagieus in his sleep because maul was considered by sidious to be his future successor

    • @GeneralGrievous-1138
      @GeneralGrievous-1138 4 роки тому

      *Ventress* acts more like a Sith Lord than Maul does. Maul had no sense of strategy, no vision whatsoever, no knowledge of any of the life-bending arts that made the Sith the Sith. Having a red saber isn't all it takes to be a Sith Lord. He was an assassin, nothing more.
      Sidious told Vader that Maul was a genuine loss because Vader hated Dooku, and he wanted to downplay Dooku's role. The novel Darth Plagueis shows what was really going on. The Sith had their eye on Dooku *before Maul was even born* - Plagueis actually considered Dooku for apprenticeship before settling on Sidious, and Sidious had always planned on turning Dooku to be his first apprentice. Dooku was still a placeholder, yes, but Dooku was at least trained to be a proper Sith Lord, which Maul wasn't.
      Sidious killed Plagueis in his sleep around the same time that Maul died - in fact, when he felt Maul's defeat he was spooked for a moment because he thought it was Plagueis' spirit coming back for more, which completely disproves the claim of Maul having been some sort of tool to kill Plagueis. Sidious had no idea Maul was gonna get rekt when he set out to kill his master.
      And finally, look at it through the scheme of the Sith Grand Plan. From the very beginning, before the events of the Prequels even started to unfold, the plan was pretty well laid-out: manipulate the TF into a blockade that would propel Palpatine to the Supreme Chancellory, use the fallout to radicalize the megacorporations to form the CIS, use the Clone Wars to destroy the Jedi, transform the Republic into an Empire. Maul doesn't fit into this plan at all. Sidious' apprentice needed to run the CIS, and Maul was completely incapable of doing that. Not only did he need someone else doing everything for him just to run one planet, but he also never would've been able to gather half the galaxy to him between his appearance and his total lack of persuasiveness. Sidious knew this. Maul simply wouldn'tve worked. If he escaped Naboo, he would've outlived his usefulness, and Sidious even states in one of the Legends novels that, had he survived, he would've had to be killed.

  • @JonathanPerez-uj7kh
    @JonathanPerez-uj7kh 4 роки тому +1

    Can you make a video like saying what if Savage and Maul actually took down Sidious and what would happen

  • @Trevahhh21
    @Trevahhh21 4 роки тому +2

    What episode is that at 0:15 ??? Please someone help I can’t find it anywhere lol

    • @BG-dq9pp
      @BG-dq9pp 3 роки тому

      It’s from an intro of the clone wars don’t know what episode

  • @simonmann4922
    @simonmann4922 4 роки тому +2

    I only think of mauls outburst of his new state of mind is because of grief savages death and to show us how he is slowly starting to become rebels maul as its obvious he's starting to go insane

  • @jamiebush8758
    @jamiebush8758 4 роки тому +2

    Darth Maul was a sith Lord
    For about ten seconds before obi wan chopped him in half and that was the ripple in the force that he thought was plageuis's conscience coming back to haunt him

  • @emersonmarshall2122
    @emersonmarshall2122 4 роки тому +2

    Rip darth mauls baby makers, now I see why he hated Kenobi

  • @toxinssoul8952
    @toxinssoul8952 4 роки тому +7

    Hello 👋

  • @darkapprentice7549
    @darkapprentice7549 4 роки тому +1

    I’m a Maul fan, I agree with your video and there’s to many maul fanboys defending him here. Maul is an awesome and interesting character very unique but he is short sighted and almost child like in his goals and how he handles situations. If I remember correctly in the Darth Plagueis book darth maul fails a mission by being beaten by a bounty hunter or something like that in his arrogance of showing of how hard he is which he doesn’t learn from hence the cutting in half by obi wan and in another mission or the same one I can’t remember he tells someone his about to assassinate all of darth Sidious and plagueis plans for the clone wars. He is just like a teenager showing of or taking something when something was took from him. He is not skilled in the big scheme of things and to eager for revenge he try’s to take Sidious’s approach but again his impatience and eager to show of that he is an apparent Sith Lord. Again he is still one of my favourite characters in Star Wars

    • @rfdempire49
      @rfdempire49 3 роки тому

      when did Maul lose to a bounty hunter in the Plaguies novel? I remember him taking on a bunch of bounty hunters and gangs with no lightsaber in comics.