New to the channel! Love to see a good humored Doomtubers still going strong and thank you for playing through this garbage fire of a map. I did not have to patience to keep throwing myself against that opening section over and over until finding that ideal path. Thanks for the heard work and good content!
Tom Mustaine (in finnish Mustonen) have ancestors here in Finland, where i live too. im finnish. and i love BigMacDavis' WT-series! Keep up the good work! Remember always that you are the BOSS of the doomers. at least for me!
just re-watched this, because I kept forgetting where the secrets were. tough map, but doable if you know what to expect - so thank goodness for BMD and his amazing walkthroughs!
Hi BigMacDavis. Fantastic Video again.🖒☺ One of my favourites of the master levels. Played it first on 'Final Doom' for the Playstation round the year 2000. It was always a great challenge on ultra violence doing a pistol start.😀
Between your channel and decino, I think we've established a new genre: "extremely chill, laid-back Let's Plays of infuriatingly difficult Doom levels". 😝
Hey BMD! Yesterday I found out about that new WAD by John Romero himself, called SIGIL. Will you do a walkthrough maybe in the near future? Just asking... now I'll grab a beer and watch this video :D
I totally agree 👍 One of my fave maps, this map is awesome & yet again, thank you ever so kindly & muchly Bigmacdavis for such a brilliant guidance walkthrough!!! Cheers & Keep on Dooming! 😊🎉😈🙀👍👍👍
Fun Fact: This is one of 3 WADs that are missing from the Xbox version of the Master Levels, which is found on the Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil disc. The other 2 WADs that didn't make it into the disc (I can only assume due to not having sufficient storage space on the disc) are Minos' Judgment (MINOS.WAD) and Mephisto's Mausoleum (MEPHISTO.WAD), the latter of which I have no complaints about not being on that version. That map is terribad. Minos' Judgment is solid though!
Honestly, I love that you're so knowledgeable about classic games. I can't wait for you to start other games, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing you play the games you have lined up 🤘💜
Cool map. I have noted that many videogames have a thing for castle-themed maps to be challenging but fun. The proper mix of item placement and usage with your route and enemy spawn points.
much love for getting though this map bigmac its crazballs! you should try to do Blacktwr.wad from pistol start that map is insane as hell on ultra violence!!
Nice! It's been a while. The pain journey for you playing this WAD has just begun though... Btw, I've just started watching you old Wolfenstein 3D walkthrough, just to compare how time's footprint has changed you through the years. Some of your famous sentences haven't changed a single bit, but your voice was deeper then imo. It's kind of funny xd
This is a pretty good map, although I don't understand why is it called Paradox. And TEETH is next already? Kinda expected you to leave it for the end of the walkthrough.
I’ll admit I’ve never played the Master Levels. So far, the three I’ve seen look pretty fun and/or challenging. I may have to give them a shot one day.
@@fezzadork that they do. Each of the Casali brothers has also made maps in other games and much like their trademarks, they are gorgeous maps that are absolutely devastatingly hard.
@@BigMacDavis I need advice from you, what should I use to record? And how do I do it? I want to at least run the game at 30 fps, and why only TNT? Well because thats the only one im good enough at doing in Ultra Violence. Thank you if you take the time to help me out 😄
@@BigMacDavis Hey BigMacDavis, I found out what software i'm going to be using for recording! :D I'm testing the waters right now, I recorded Map 1 of TNT several times to get myself in the grove of things, if I get the right one, I may upload it in UA-cam to see how much traction it get's. :D
Maybe that was the point - players would expect some formidable enemy at the end, so why not subvert that by putting the most annoying monster in the game there instead? =)
Yeah, I do see an architecture similarity between Power Control from TNT Evilution and this. I'm under the impression that must have been a Tom Mustaine map when we was working on TNT Evilution?
It's really difficult map.. I went crazy watching you struggle to survive hahaha I'm not going to play it because I need to save my progress every 2 seconds 😂😂.. I really like the way you play Thank you for clarifying a lot of things and Secret areas ❣❣❣❣❣❣💋
Use the narrow gap between the last pillar (on the right) and the wall as cover for the revenants; the rockets shouldn't hit you if you stand in the right place. Then pick them of with the shotgun. That's a cheesy tactic, I know, but it works.
I have a question about a secret place in this map. I used noclip to discover it, but next to the "startroom" there is a smaller room with a rocket launcher and 2 boxes with rockets, is it possible to get there w/out cheats? And did you noticed?
Good Old Classic Gray Doom Status Bar, I Got Use To Seeing The Pirate Doom Orange Status. Oh Man, I thought you going to Play with God Made on, I Didn't even notice it was on until you said you needed to turn it off. LOL that's how normal it is to see it's on to me.
Hey there, BMD. Love your videos :) Do you have a list somewhere online of all the hardware you use to play your games and record your videos? I'd like to record my games for my own amusement but I just need a little direction as far as recording h/w vs recording s/w, etc. Any links or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I tried to do Hell Beneath from Ultimate Doom on Ultra Violence (and btw every practice run was a fail) and I completed it on my first try (with the 100% included) and on my first attempt at recording it too.
Tom MUSTAINE!?! Like Dave MUSTAINE!?!? And he even does MUSIC!?!! OH MY GODOSOSJDBDIRBRJEIHDNSIDBDKSJSNSJDJDJ!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do I have such a stupid sense of humor?
Tom Mustaine is by far one of my favourite mappers for Doom, and I enjoyed his music tracks as well. Here's some interesting trivia about his involvement with the Master Levels, he has created four maps: this one and three maps that have been rejected. Two of the rejected maps are in TNT Evilution, Map01: System Control and Map17: Processing Area, and the reason they were rejected was because they were too short. The other rejected map was a rip-off of Doom 2 Map14: The Inmost Dens, understandably so, and the folks at id, especially the map's creator American McGee, did not take the submission lightly. For more of Tom Mustaine, I'd recommend doing a playthrough of Memento Mori and Perdition's Gate, and check out the Quake expansion pack Scourge of Armagon, in which he designed some maps with Richard Gray, aka the Levelord, of Duke Nukem 3D fame. ;)
planning to do "No rest for the living" after Master Levels ? That would be fitting continuation. Then all official DOOM 2 stuff would be done 100%. :)
12:02 Can't you just take out revenants in the towers from down here with a chaingun? You do have full ammo. That definitely would've been safer than "dancing" around, taking hits from behind. I thought the priority should be to take out really annoying enemies placed in really annoying spots as soon as possible, instead of evading them until the last minute. Otherwise, great video! Also, that soldier trolled you really hard. :D
Hope you will get to Black Mesa soon, and I am also hoping you will upload Episode 1 and 2 of Half Life 2 when you will have a chance.. until then.. i'll just enjoy your other awesome walkthroughs :D
Mr. Mustaine probably put all his time into making this a master level map, so that's why he only put out one. How do you make something difficult but also enjoyable even from a pistol start? That's the Paradox.
This map is difficult for the simple fact your basically surrounded almost anywhere you go & the number of enemies. BigMacDavis which map is considered #4 of the Master Levels?
By the way, I just kill the revenants as I walk around the perimeter, it's easier in my opinion. Once you get the backpack there are tons of ammo to spare.
An interesting & challenging map I have to say! For TEETH.WAD by Cranium, it is actually part of the story arc that he created which you have to follow in sequence in order for the narrative to make sense, focusing on the cyberdemon morphed into a human. It goes like this: BLOODSEA.WAD, MEPHISTO.WAD, BLACKTWR.WAD*, & TEETH.WAD. I give you the link to know where I get this from: doom.fandom.com/wiki/Master_Levels_for_Doom_II [Look at The Cabal Section, that is where I get the story details from] * The wiki does not tell me where the BLACKTWR.WAD fits into the story, but I put it there for logical reasons given that BLACKTWR.WAD & TEETH.WAD are similar to each other. Anyways, I hope it helps and let me know soon. ;)
Love your vids man! Your guides helped me get through most on doom. I was wondering if you would ever do a walkthrough on system shock. I would love to see it. Also are you gonna do doom 2016 or doom 3
Yeah. Ironically, this is one of the maps that really involves lots of pace control. Speed is a requirement. I usually walk around the castle two or three times to kill all the enemies that can kill me immediately. Then comes the yellow key and the rocket launcher and the map becomes easier. All the way a fun map if you know what to do, where to go and how to move. But I see no other right way except the fast way.
"But in my mind it doesn't really have to be that big in order to be fun"
-That's what she said
19:49 very faintly, you can hear the late gunner teleporting in! and you can briefly see him at 19:54
Damn you got good eyes! Like an owl or something. ;)
I caught that too! Thought I was just imagining it and ended up rewinding the video.
Dude your channel really is underrated. Much love and respect from Pakistan
Hey are you gonna play Sigil? That would be cool.
I'm holding out for Sunder haha
@cory trevor 1967 ;)
You're awesome Jeff, much love, from Sheffield, England
505?
Ooh boy, I really struggled with this level but you make it look almost easy
I guarantee you it's not. Just takes lots and lots of practice.
New to the channel! Love to see a good humored Doomtubers still going strong and thank you for playing through this garbage fire of a map. I did not have to patience to keep throwing myself against that opening section over and over until finding that ideal path. Thanks for the heard work and good content!
20:22 "you're very late sir!" haha
Tom Mustaine (in finnish Mustonen) have ancestors here in Finland, where i live too. im finnish. and i love BigMacDavis' WT-series! Keep up the good work! Remember always that you are the BOSS of the doomers. at least for me!
Thanks UA-cam, for not notifying me of any BMD uploads for an entire year...
So glad you're back, and so glad I finally know about it!
Glad to have you back aboard, my friend! :D
Thank you so much bro 👍👍👍👑👑🐐🐐
I'm surprised that you still upload content, I salute, my man.
Thank you! Feels good to still be doing videos! :)
Master levels, good stuff! Hopefully, we'll see SIGIL on this channel in the near future!!!!
+1 for Sigil
+1
just re-watched this, because I kept forgetting where the secrets were. tough map, but doable if you know what to expect - so thank goodness for BMD and his amazing walkthroughs!
Hi BigMacDavis. Fantastic Video again.🖒☺
One of my favourites of the master levels. Played it first on 'Final Doom' for the Playstation round the year 2000. It was always a great challenge on ultra violence doing a pistol start.😀
I played paradox in a lowe level and it was hard at first but so fun. Neat to see a walk through after I finished it.
Between your channel and decino, I think we've established a new genre: "extremely chill, laid-back Let's Plays of infuriatingly difficult Doom levels". 😝
Ahaha! I love it! ;D
Cool Map, I always loved Tom Mustane Maps, this map, and his maps in TNT and Perdition's Gate, he's also a very good musician.
Watching your videos and playing classic Doom (in my little free time) in Bagram Afganistan
Awesome, my friend! Keep playing Doom! :)
Yaaaaaaah, fresh video from BMD!
@@BigMacDavis it's good that we got you and your videos!
Hey BMD! Yesterday I found out about that new WAD by John Romero himself, called SIGIL. Will you do a walkthrough maybe in the near future?
Just asking... now I'll grab a beer and watch this video :D
Yeah, I hope to get to it soon. :)
12:17 Which is why, you should have taken care of the Revs in the towers, before entering the door.
Can i tell ya something? did you know that Dogs ball in HL2 can be used as a distraction in ravenholm?
Yes i know only true hl fan know
@@Naah2024 not true hl fans, just those dudes who have played the game using that or have been told abt it lol.
@@Naah2024 Um no. I am a true hl fan and have been replaying the games for years and I didn't know about this.
I totally agree 👍 One of my fave maps, this map is awesome & yet again, thank you ever so kindly & muchly Bigmacdavis for such a brilliant guidance walkthrough!!! Cheers & Keep on Dooming! 😊🎉😈🙀👍👍👍
Personally, I'm looking forward to Flynn's maps (may he rest in piece).
I encountered an expected error: Drooling while watching this video. Thank you, you awesome thing, you!
Your comments always make me smile. :)
I thought the sound in this video was messed up
...after 13 minutes I realised I was wearing my headphones the wrong way
Weird. The same happened to me.
For the zombieman who showed up late, I heard him teleport just as you were leaving the area. You have to listen closely at 19:50
Welcome back, bro.
I was waiting for this video since a week i think hahaha great job!!
Regarding the minute 17:17, perhaps you can attempt to strafe-wallrun to see if that helps getting to the other side.
Very good video as alwyas. Keep the good work.
Thank you. This one was very fun to do.
Fun Fact: This is one of 3 WADs that are missing from the Xbox version of the Master Levels, which is found on the Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil disc.
The other 2 WADs that didn't make it into the disc (I can only assume due to not having sufficient storage space on the disc) are Minos' Judgment (MINOS.WAD) and Mephisto's Mausoleum (MEPHISTO.WAD), the latter of which I have no complaints about not being on that version. That map is terribad. Minos' Judgment is solid though!
This is one of my favourite maps on Master Levels. Can't wait to see how you do Minos'Judgement.
That will be an interesting one.
Honestly, I love that you're so knowledgeable about classic games. I can't wait for you to start other games, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing you play the games you have lined up 🤘💜
Early! Thanks for the content BMD!
No problem. Thank you for watching.
Tom Mustaine made some awesome music tracks! Also, will you be doing a video on Sigil, as well as videos on John Romero's Doom E1 map wads?
All right a doom map by BigMacDavis this is a great day!!!
Cool map. I have noted that many videogames have a thing for castle-themed maps to be challenging but fun. The proper mix of item placement and usage with your route and enemy spawn points.
Hey Bigmacdavis! What's the best way to get a hold of you? I sent you a Doomy surprise as a dm on Facebook
On Twitter through messages.
much love for getting though this map bigmac its crazballs! you should try to do Blacktwr.wad from pistol start that map is insane as hell on ultra violence!!
Finally, a new Master Levels video. I hope you'll continue with DN3D or Balck Mesa soon :-)
Black*
E3 is in 5 days! Can't wait for more Doom Eternal info!
Looking forward to that game!
Nice! It's been a while. The pain journey for you playing this WAD has just begun though...
Btw, I've just started watching you old Wolfenstein 3D walkthrough, just to compare how time's footprint has changed you through the years. Some of your famous sentences haven't changed a single bit, but your voice was deeper then imo. It's kind of funny xd
Thanks Big Mac this helped alot
This is a pretty good map, although I don't understand why is it called Paradox. And TEETH is next already? Kinda expected you to leave it for the end of the walkthrough.
After recording, I had second thoughts, I might save Cranium's maps for last. Christen Klie I've decided is next.
I’ll admit I’ve never played the Master Levels. So far, the three I’ve seen look pretty fun and/or challenging. I may have to give them a shot one day.
Indeed. Most of the levels are actually really fun and well designed. A couple of them are not so good, lol.
@@BigMacDavis In other news, SIGIL is out! Check it out! ua-cam.com/video/-3WPSmqjkA0/v-deo.html
A stage or two of the master levels make the Casali brother's work seem tame in regard to difficulty.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK The Casali Bros. make some absolutely gorgeous maps. Many of them are fairly deadly too.
@@fezzadork that they do. Each of the Casali brothers has also made maps in other games and much like their trademarks, they are gorgeous maps that are absolutely devastatingly hard.
Had a lot of fun with this map. Lots of deaths…but good ones. Not cheap.
Awwwwwwww Horseapples, I guess I gotta end up in the eventual edited together montage of comments!
*ahem*
"SIGIL WHEN, PONY MAN?!?"
Nice run.
My favorite map from master levels
2:00 The archeticture. It's not architecture, it's archeticture :)
Im thinking about doing a TNT Evilution playthrough (no commentary) at some point, you inspired me to want to do it. :D
Hey, good luck with that. :)
@@BigMacDavis I need advice from you, what should I use to record? And how do I do it? I want to at least run the game at 30 fps, and why only TNT? Well because thats the only one im good enough at doing in Ultra Violence. Thank you if you take the time to help me out 😄
@@BigMacDavis Hey BigMacDavis, I found out what software i'm going to be using for recording! :D I'm testing the waters right now, I recorded Map 1 of TNT several times to get myself in the grove of things, if I get the right one, I may upload it in UA-cam to see how much traction it get's. :D
Nice map, great detail. But I thought the Pain in the Ass Elemental was an odd choice for the last Demon. Oh well, nicely played
Maybe that was the point - players would expect some formidable enemy at the end, so why not subvert that by putting the most annoying monster in the game there instead? =)
Tom Mustaine have ancestry here in Finland. His last name was pronounces originally "mustonen" and americanized to "mustaine"
Hmm... Interesting. Mustaine would probably sound more French-Canadian than American.
Wicked kewl map! Most if not all the music is from "The Chasm"....one of your favorites! ha ha ha Have a great Saturday! :)
One of my favorites... oh boy... ;D
Yeah, I do see an architecture similarity between Power Control from TNT Evilution and this. I'm under the impression that must have been a Tom Mustaine map when we was working on TNT Evilution?
Come to think of it, there seems to be some throwbacks to Map14 The Inmost Dens in this map, too...
Master levels! very nice! :)
It's really difficult map.. I went crazy watching you struggle to survive hahaha I'm not going to play it because I need to save my progress every 2 seconds 😂😂.. I really like the way you play Thank you for clarifying a lot of things and Secret areas ❣❣❣❣❣❣💋
No problem, my friend. I'm glad you like watching my videos. Thank you so much.
Thank you for your videos ❣❣❣
Love you ❣
i cant wait the, No Rest For The Living & SIGIL ,walktroughs. :)
Use the narrow gap between the last pillar (on the right) and the wall as cover for the revenants; the rockets shouldn't hit you if you stand in the right place. Then pick them of with the shotgun.
That's a cheesy tactic, I know, but it works.
I have a question about a secret place in this map. I used noclip to discover it, but next to the "startroom" there is a smaller room with a rocket launcher and 2 boxes with rockets, is it possible to get there w/out cheats? And did you noticed?
It might be multiplayer only. Not sure.
I did know that TEETH has 2 levels in it THE EXPRESS ELEVATOR TO HELL AND BAD DREAM (Secret Level)
Good Old Classic Gray Doom Status Bar, I Got Use To Seeing The Pirate Doom Orange Status.
Oh Man, I thought you going to Play with God Made on, I Didn't even notice it was on until you said you needed to turn it off. LOL that's how normal it is to see it's on to me.
Paradox?
You mean the publisher of Mount and Blade and Imperetor:Rome
2 demons one shotgun
Hey there, BMD. Love your videos :) Do you have a list somewhere online of all the hardware you use to play your games and record your videos? I'd like to record my games for my own amusement but I just need a little direction as far as recording h/w vs recording s/w, etc. Any links or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I don't have a list. But I probably will make a video of my setup soon.
Apparently according to Doomwiki you don't need to press both switches to get the outside secret. They open individual doors on opposite sides
Oh, I see. Nice to know. :)
I miss playing the Master Levels, but honestly, it's hard for me to ever go back to playing vanilla Doom.
next SIGIL?
buen video men
I tried to do Hell Beneath from Ultimate Doom on Ultra Violence (and btw every practice run was a fail) and I completed it on my first try (with the 100% included) and on my first attempt at recording it too.
You can check it out here: ua-cam.com/video/JnQ5gh2Gn7U/v-deo.html
Tom MUSTAINE!?! Like Dave MUSTAINE!?!? And he even does MUSIC!?!! OH MY GODOSOSJDBDIRBRJEIHDNSIDBDKSJSNSJDJDJ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do I have such a stupid sense of humor?
Doom Eternal is going to be released on November 22.
Hey Dave, when you gonna start your other planned walkthroughs?
Hey bmd r u gonna be doing a sigil walkthrough???
Tom Mustaine is by far one of my favourite mappers for Doom, and I enjoyed his music tracks as well. Here's some interesting trivia about his involvement with the Master Levels, he has created four maps: this one and three maps that have been rejected. Two of the rejected maps are in TNT Evilution, Map01: System Control and Map17: Processing Area, and the reason they were rejected was because they were too short. The other rejected map was a rip-off of Doom 2 Map14: The Inmost Dens, understandably so, and the folks at id, especially the map's creator American McGee, did not take the submission lightly. For more of Tom Mustaine, I'd recommend doing a playthrough of Memento Mori and Perdition's Gate, and check out the Quake expansion pack Scourge of Armagon, in which he designed some maps with Richard Gray, aka the Levelord, of Duke Nukem 3D fame. ;)
Really cool trivia. I didn't know TNT Map01 and 17 were early submissions to Master Levels. Really cool.
Can't wait for Black Tower :P
I like it to SOME extent, lol.
planning to do "No rest for the living" after Master Levels ? That would be fitting continuation. Then all official DOOM 2 stuff would be done 100%. :)
I'm not sure about next but it is planned. :)
12:02 Can't you just take out revenants in the towers from down here with a chaingun? You do have full ammo. That definitely would've been safer than "dancing" around, taking hits from behind. I thought the priority should be to take out really annoying enemies placed in really annoying spots as soon as possible, instead of evading them until the last minute.
Otherwise, great video! Also, that soldier trolled you really hard. :D
So I did it on the Playstation version. It's much safer but take longer. But I must say I'm not half as good as BMD.😁😁
Hope you will get to Black Mesa soon, and I am also hoping you will upload Episode 1 and 2 of Half Life 2 when you will have a chance.. until then.. i'll just enjoy your other awesome walkthroughs :D
Mr. Mustaine probably put all his time into making this a master level map, so that's why he only put out one. How do you make something difficult but also enjoyable even from a pistol start? That's the Paradox.
1080p 60fps
This is NOT BMD ! :D
This map is difficult for the simple fact your basically surrounded almost anywhere you go & the number of enemies. BigMacDavis which map is considered #4 of the Master Levels?
They're meant to be played in any order you wish.
Compared to this map Catwalk is a doozie lol
Did you know about the wad strife it's so fun like an RPG please play it
dont you mean as you've said before the lost asssouls
By the way, I just kill the revenants as I walk around the perimeter, it's easier in my opinion. Once you get the backpack there are tons of ammo to spare.
BMD ASMR when?
How do you get your ZDoom to be so smooth? I tried this out and mine feels choppy and like it's not at 60fps.
Not sure. I have the latest version of GZDoom.
@@BigMacDavis Installing the latest version fixed it. What a simple solution!
it really should be called the Brown Levels for Doom II
holy crap there are 3 teleports in the center
Do a walk through on sigel.
An interesting & challenging map I have to say! For TEETH.WAD by Cranium, it is actually part of the story arc that he created which you have to follow in sequence in order for the narrative to make sense, focusing on the cyberdemon morphed into a human. It goes like this: BLOODSEA.WAD, MEPHISTO.WAD, BLACKTWR.WAD*, & TEETH.WAD.
I give you the link to know where I get this from: doom.fandom.com/wiki/Master_Levels_for_Doom_II [Look at The Cabal Section, that is where I get the story details from]
* The wiki does not tell me where the BLACKTWR.WAD fits into the story, but I put it there for logical reasons given that BLACKTWR.WAD & TEETH.WAD are similar to each other.
Anyways, I hope it helps and let me know soon. ;)
Oh god, next is Teeth.WAD, Oh Boy..
Love your vids man! Your guides helped me get through most on doom. I was wondering if you would ever do a walkthrough on system shock. I would love to see it. Also are you gonna do doom 2016 or doom 3
Doom 3 will be first.
Hmmmmm... teeth.... the paragraph says you were betrayed by the council “cabal”..... sounds like blood
Lol, could be.
Yeah. Ironically, this is one of the maps that really involves lots of pace control. Speed is a requirement. I usually walk around the castle two or three times to kill all the enemies that can kill me immediately. Then comes the yellow key and the rocket launcher and the map becomes easier. All the way a fun map if you know what to do, where to go and how to move. But I see no other right way except the fast way.
Yeah, pretty much that's how you beat the map. Can't say how you can survive long while going slow.
2:34 for those who wanna skip right to the game
"Extremtly" that spelling reminds me some of my students in English class when i'm correcting their homework 🤭
I loved all my English teachers. I bet I'd like you.
The W A D hack, cause in Doom you don't use the S key