Can Automotive Coatings Protect Your Smartphone?...
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You've probably heard about ceramic coating a car to protect it's paint, but what if you tried to ceramic coat a smartphone?
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Guys, as discussed in the video the rating for these coating is calculated differently. No, running the test differently will not change the result...
But does it fill in scratches that are already there? Maybe it's better as a way to repair them than as a way to prevent them?
Are you completely sure the coating even stayed applied? All I heard from the results was "we can't even tell it's there", except for the totally precise and definitely reliable tip-water-off-phone test
@@possiblyachannel, yes my thought too, repairing a scratched screen that samples moisture in the scratch and produces contact points that you don't actually touch would be nice if you could cure with this!?
@@Insan1tyW0lf I also wonder if 24hr was enough, what if it was applied in a thicker layer and left for 48hrs - 7 days for proper application
@@possiblyachannel no it wont, glass and a coating are different materials filling in holes wont change how light reflects off the scratch
"This is a tech channel not a car channel"
Guys, let's register LinusCarTips
If you remember from his new car stream, we were told of getting a follow up of his Volt plus possibility of future car reviews!
Be about as interesting as subscibing to LinusDickTips.
so jayz2cents?
And since we learned that linus rides bikes, let’s also register linusbiketips
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When Jerry starts saying "Scratches at a level 7 with deeper groover on level 8", you know that the world has evolved.
Linus has evolved since decade
The name is Zack btw.
Check out the KYOCERA duraforce pro 2 review, which is scratches at a level 8 and deeper groves at a level 9
Hilarious
Amen brother 😂
"Ow I just got stabbed by a pick, it was the 8 one!" so now we know Linus scratches at level 8. Probably with deeper grooves at a level 9....
so what youre saying is that hes very hard
5:46
instructions: "longer it stays dry the better...at least 48 hours for initial drying...don't recommend that you wash or expose the car to water for 4 to 7 days"
linus: pours water on it the next day
Yeah... That's potentially a pretty big flaw in their methodology. There is no good excuse to have ignored the manufacturer's cure time and cut it in half. I've worked with lots of resins where doing that would be like half-baking a cake.
Was baffled by this as well.
@@markcoren2842 the extra wait is solely to avoid water spotting, it has nothing to do with hardness. Linus even explained that the coating had a different hardness scale.
Also he didn't clean the screen enough
One day of curing should be enough for any car. You just don't want to use other chemicals, like wash it, for a week.
*screen is off*
Linus: I don’t notice any difference in readability...
Eric G he was probably reading the script
@@marktaormina779 I mean you could already see that it was the same on both sides anyway
@@MichaelGarrity fake? What?
6:08
Linus: " I knew this would come in handy for something someday"
Also Linus: literally puts a giant golden Buttplug on the table
Lol XD
i scrolled down the comment section with the expection to find such comment XD
@@Fabianthehunter Me also ... not disappointed.
Ah damn it, I was just about to comment about this xD
that's what I taught haha. But what is it really?
Instructions: cure 48 hours, 4-7 days for water resistance
Linus: "AfTeR wAiTiNg ThE rEqUiSeT dAy"
Has nothing to do with water resistance or curing. It'll cure withing a day. You wait that long to avoid water spotting.
@@simmerke1111 i mean fair, but wouldn’t you want to give it it’s best chance?
@@simmerke1111
No, it says cure in 48 hours...
@@simmerke1111 instructions: "longer it stays dry the better...at least 48 hours for initial drying...don't recommend that you wash or expose the car to water for 4 to 7 days"
Linus: "I knew this would come in handy some day"
*pulls out giant golden buttplug*
0:38 and 0:43
Hearing "but after" without "a message from our sponsor" after it makes me uncomfortable.
11:23 got me
Same :(
Got me so bad, and came down right away.
I was thinking the exact same thing and was going to comment. Then I saw yours. Haha
@@Nabee_H I almost pressed L (to skip forward 10 s)
Linus, "I used to run a painting company."
Also Linus, "I want to have a hard line between the treated and untreated aides. What's painter's tape? Free hand baby!"
wonder why he 'used to'
Its fairly common for people who do that for a living not to use the tape: it takes ages to set up, risks pulling off paint/leaving residue, and isn't really necessary if you're good. They just paint up to the edge first with a precise brush and a steady hand. it's called "cutting in"
@@AngDavies painter's tape is specifically designed not to rip off paint or leave residue...if i paid someone to paint my house and didnt tape it up first, i'd say "all the edges better be crisp and straight, or im not going to pay you" the painters would go, "fuck, maybe we should tape up the edges and lay down some plastic sheets first like every other painting contractor that has ever existed"...
@@kryptkeeper457 Actually often times cutting in free handed can result in much cleaner lines in the case of textured walls. With the texture, the tape often doesn't evenly adhere and allows small amounts of seepage under the tape.
@@AngDavies And the reward for taking a joke far to seriously goes to...
01:13
“This is a tech channel, not a car channel”
Says the guy who looks like he can be the younger Canadian brother of Larry Kosilla from Ammo NYC.
US I KNOW!
The who of the what now?
@@arootube Larry Kosilla from Ammo NYC, one of the go-to channels when it comes to high grade car-detailing. he would be in pain after seeing Linus doing the worst application ever...
Holy shit this comment is so accurate 😂
The water beading off at a different "speed" when tilting the device by hand is naturally because your tilt was not perfectly controlled. Try it with any hydrophobic phone-shaped brick and you'll see one side will bead faster than the other depending on how imperfect your tilt is.
And the quantity of water too
Instructions: Allow 48 hrs to cure
Linus: so we have waited 24 hours
Advertising said it'd be ready in a day. Besides, who would want to leave their car or phone in one place for the full 7 days the manual says it needs?
This is one of the reasons I get frustrated with some of the LTT videos. If you don't follow the instructions and just jump ahead steps/take shortcuts etc. you're not giving the product a good faith test.
@@capsulate8642 I mean they arn't forcing you to buy their product.
@@capsulate8642 You can still drive the car while it cures. You have to try to not get it wet for 24/48 hours. The seven days are just for chemical exposure because it hasn´t fully cured.
If it gets wet before curing a little bit you´re likely taking more of it off thus reducing its lifespan.
@@capsulate8642 that's because it takes time to cure and contaminants will be permanently BONDED to the surface of your car if it gets wet which will ruin the whole coating. If you don't want to install it properly don't buy the product.
0:33 Even the plastic wrap is "9H" hardness.
proof
"Leave for 48 hours"
"Don't put water for a few days"
The very first test he does after only 24hours is put water on it. When you want to be as amateur as possible discrediting the results and therefore the point of the entire video...
Men, even if you do it right thats is how it works... it dont make it more durable if you let it more days.
@DJ Nasiatka even if it's still shit, at least that would be on the product, not on him
@DJ Nasiatka well that rating is used in paint and coating industries... sooo is really what you are gonna get but is pretty dificult for a product to make a phone more hardness, if it were that easy why they dont do it?
@DJ Nasiatka it doesn't work on vehicle paint. It is snake oil... Its sold purely for the benefit of making lots of money out of stupid people...
11:10 Linus scratches at a level 8, with deeper grooves when he drops his Razer Blade live at LTX
Jerry rigeverything: scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7...
LinusTT: ouch, I stabbed myself!
JerryRigEverything: "With level 6 or level 7?"
@@niki123489 8
It turns out that Linus has a hardness of less than 6
F
They should make new channel "LinusDropEverything"
Linus: "This is not a car channel"
BMW: XD ._.
Hey Linus!
Former car detailing guy here, I nerded out about it when I was doing it for work and wound up with a big supply of some different waxes, sealants, etc.... over the years I have used these products on various phones to minimize scratches and partially restore some dinged up units....
The results were varying, but one thing that I absolutely learned was that you should, generally, NOT DO THIS TO GLASS SCREEN DEVICES. The primary reason why is that most/all of these types of products include solvents and/or polishing agents that will, most likely depending on the products, strip the anti-grease layer off of the phone's display.... This means fingerprints. lots of fingerprints. if it doesn't do this it will not have the same anti-grease performance, and I think just adds more layers of material with different refraction indexes, and makes the grease show up more easily.
My phones definitely cleaned up easier, and looked better than they did to begin with.
The other concern I would have is that these products generally recommend gloves and avoiding skin contact, like you clearly realize given you wore gloves to apply it.... after a few bad reactions to exposure to various chemicals over the years as well (these not included, I think*) I'm also just more careful with stuff like that than I once was.... these products shouldn't be applied to something that you handle so thoroughly and so often as your phone. Fridges, shiny surfaces you *dont* habitually touch sure, but the phone just seems like a bad idea to me.
2:14 "where's the alcohol ?" Linus are you okay
Remember? He's going to retire 😉
Nothing wrong with drinking ;)
#Prohibition
It got sold out with the coronavirus outbrake....
" finds alcohol"
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Linus: puts massive buttplug on the table
“I knew this would be useful for something”
I thought ceramic coating was supposed to be cured under heat?? Pls recheck instructions Linus.
i do not think it is a massive buttplug, it might be a Faberge egg PCB that he will try and decorate in a future Channel Super Fun video (at least I hope so). 😁
@Vizman216 At least, that's where it needs to go unless you want it to thermal throttle.
Look at are profile pics
VaroCAL Strange he’d buy that in the first place despite having no anus. Who or what did he buy it for?
im sure that no layer at all of the product was left on the phone when applied.superfine surface,no time to dry,no porous material,anti-oil coating,etc,etc.
i used rain-x(water repellant coating) on the ship front windows since a lot of years,same apply method as this,and it is a great difference if you apply the product and wait till is almost all dry before you wipe the excess.
if you wait,it will last much longer and work better.take in mind the time you need to apply all the windows,or in this case,apply to an entire car before you can whipe the excess,versus the time you need to apply it to half a phone.there is no time for it to bond,nor a surface to bond anywhay,it will srink in a drop.
*Linus stabs himself with various odd desk tools: Abridged.*
“Scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level seven.”
Best thing I have heard on this channel ever
the magical words of cellphone
Agree!
6:11 Why does Linus have a really big golden buttplug in his office?
to plug his butt ofc
Why not?
…the real question is why don't you?
They're all the rage these days, you know.
For when his wife visits
12:40 Linus scratches at a level ‘Pin removal tool’ with 11:12 deeper grooves at a level 8
I have AvalonKing ceramic coating on a couple of cars and it's a night-and-day difference how it performs. The car actually gets cleaner if you leave it out in the rain for a little while because the water beads just carry the dirt away. The dirt doesn't stick very strongly to the surface. That's great because it means less car washes and you're scratching the paint less because you're scrubbing it less often. Continues performing like that for years, it's phenomenal stuff.
"This is a tech channel, not a car channel"
I seem to remember you saying you wanted to do car reviews and such a long while ago
Well, yes, but that was to review the cars from a tech perspective, not a typical car review perspective, if I remember correctly.
@@benjaminmiddaugh2729 That might be so but it's still a car review
@@RRaZoreDD And? It's also still a tech review. What's your point? The two are not mutually exclusive.
@@benjaminmiddaugh2729 but different and besides we already know he's not that knowledgeable about cars so if he wishes to do so then he better start learning
@@geekmechanic1473 My point was that (if I understood Linus correctly, and I think I did) the point of the car reviews was to review them from the perspective of "does this tech make sense for the consumer?" and not "is this car good or not as a car?." That sort of review is not necessarily outside the realm of what I would expect Linus to be good at, especially given how much good sense he talks about cars when they come up on the WAN show, and it's not too much of a stretch for the channel concept in general.
I protect my motorcycle from scratches by coating it with a thin layer of mud and oil.
Same here, works like a charm
I do wash it if I ride through road salt though..
That shit should be illegal
The best protection is to leave in the garage.:)
@@mikedavenport007 The Harley Davidson method
Haha
Helps to hides the scratches and call it "patina"😂😂
tech youtube is the most wholesome section of youtube - it's great that all of you get on so well! You love to see it
had my previous car professionally ceramic coated and it made washing it so easy and never picked up micro scratches (swirl marks)
Linus: We’re a tech channel not a Car channel
Car Enthusiasts: Cars are tech too!! :(
Trey Spiller not if you have a real car without them commm pyooo toors
Tesla ....tech to is a car
The new polestar should interest Linus
Mahek Tailor teslas aint cars they’re computers on wheels
@@buurman2635 isn't that... A car...
0:40 Linus has improved his reflexes.
0:41 Nice save on that almost-drop there. Very smooth.
I own a business professionally paint correcting and ceramic coating high end vehicles, and there is a lot of misinformation out there. Ceramic is not a filler, that’s why in an automotive setting, you have to polish or “level” the clear coat so you’re applying ceramic over a near flawless surface, or as close to perfection as you can achieve. Ceramic essentially seals in the work underneath, so if you apply ceramic over paint without decontamination or correction, it will be hydrophobic, however there will still be flaws and blemishes underneath. If you want a filler, PPF, also known as clear bra, acts as a filler for minor swirls and scratches however rock chips and deeper scratches will still be visible. Also the misconception that you’ll never have to wash your car again is false. It’ll make cleaning much easier and it is far more durable and hydrophobic than any traditional waxes or sealants out there, but you still have to wash your car. There is a lot to this that I can’t even begin to explain in a single comment, but this video is full of false information. People only think it’s snake oil because they believe the propaganda and marketing ploys pushed on them instead of seeking a professional opinion or doing their own research!
Hi. I bought a windshield glass repellent sealant for cars. I'm applying it to my smartphone screen because oleophobic coating worn of and it makes screen silky smooth again. Do you think i can damage phone screen this way?
11:10 Well, now we know that Linus isn't harder than an 8 on Mohs' scale...
*with deeper grooves at the level 9*
But it scratched him!
"Don't get it wet for 5 - 7 days"
Linus's first test "Wets coating"
Facepalm
Exactly 😂
yep, Linus rushing things instead of doing it the right way, forming opinions on products that he is too careless to follow the directions on. Methodology matters when you are testing a product. It may have performed the same, but we wouldn't know.
If Linus never saw basketball before, went to a hoop without a net, he might assume you throw it throw the hoop and try to hit the square on the backboard, because directions don't mean anything :p
I mean, I've never played badminton, I just assume you are supposed to catch the birdie with your racket and try to throw it at the opposing side's face. You get different points for hitting different parts, the nose is a bullseye, eyes are a penalty ... if they catch it, just means its their serve.
The advertising said one day so he gave it a day
@@larrylentini5688 the advertising says one day to drive it not one day to cure. It specifically says don't wet it for 48 hours, and full cure in about a week
*dont wash it for 5-7 days
No problem getting it wet after 24 hours but you dont want any chemicals on it before it is fully cured (which takes 5-7 days if correctly applied)
"This is a tech channel not a car channel" and then he smirks, I half expected him to announce a new car channel.
0:44 I thought you are going to say after this clip from our sponsor
Me, watching on a broken phone: Hmm, yes..
not there yet lol
watching on a monitor with 5 dead pixels
Me watching on a phone with broken screen protector: yes....
*Interesting*
Im wondering if I can use it to fill in a couple scrapes on my phone 🤔🤔🤔
1:45 my body was ready for the intro music
I know right? So many things not going in this intro!
Very true
I was looking for a way to renew my oil phobic coating. Now I got one! Thanks for the video :)
Linus, could be the case the smartphone you tested is a "new" one, and the coating it comes from factory is somewhat similar to the one you are trying to apply.
Maybe testing in a used phone, when the factory oleophobic coating is no longer in play, can make a difference.
User error on Linus part
5:47 instructions clearly states to wait at least 48 hours and up to a week to let the product fully cure. "The longer the better"
6:16 24 hours later...
Also I believe he didn't let it sit on the phone to haze a little.
Like wax, a little hazing is needed as that's when you know the product has stuck.
I currently have one of these cheap ceramic coating on my phone.. And I haven't gotten any scratches on the back of the phone from my cases, nor on the camera lens too.
And I mentioned cases because I've had cases that would scratch the back, so does my mom and sisters
also
05:20 : let coating sit then wipe off remain residue with towel
Linus: wipes off immediatly
@@randomesteven3935 I agree. Having worked along side people who do ceramic coating as a business, they really emphasize the importance of letting the product haze.
This quality and prepration of this "test" is quite poor and overall lazy. Looks almost as if they rushed the video for the sake of having something to upload on this topic. 🤷♂️
It also just doesn't matter because 9H is not on Moh's scale. It wasn't going to work.
@@LinusTechTips If you knew it "wasn't going to work", what was the point in going through the shenanigans in the first place? Surely a "review" and "tip" based channel should at least follow directions accurately to discern whether or not a product might work, REGARDLESS of one's predicted hypothesis.
Linus: "..but this is a tech channel not a car channel"
Me: *Still waiting for MightyCarMods and Linus Media Group link up video*
I'm actually quite impressed! In Seattle I have to use my phone in the rain a lot, and having something that would allow the rain to bead and fall off at even a slight angle would make my life easier. I might try it out for this purpose, and if it works well enough I'll upload a video or something.
You’re Rock’N that usb-C shirt, Linus! Love it. Can I see one that says, “Body by PC”
11:10 Linus performs pretty well with deeper grooves at a level 8 with a drop test.
*"Where's the alcohol"* - _Linus Sebastian out of context_
3:45 AYYYYYY I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
6:10 is that a big golden, massive...
Hole plugger. You know, for plugging up holes.
@ZeikJT exactly, what else?
6:08 "I new this would come in handy for something"
As if he doesn't use it everyday 🤣
:D
love the donut media reference! two of my favorite channels in one place.
11:00 I think we'd all appreciate to see the scratches too, Linus!
If it makes such a minute difference but it's still a psotive one, I would love to see how well it would work to fill existing scratches of different magnitudes, might make an old scratched up glass look and feel like new (better than other coatings that can gunk up as linus mentioned regarding the armor coating one)
No it doesn't really have any "fill scratches" properties. Keep in mind it's a VERY thin layer.
4:33 If I was a teacher that's exactly the kind of test I would make lol
I had it In my second semester of University. No one realized early enough
These coatings primarily help prevent scratches by making it harder for dirt that can cause scratches form sticking to your car. Dirt that's stuck to your car has a chance to scratch it however dirt that beads off with water does not have that chance. Basically reduces scratches by reducing the chance something will stick to the car long enough to scratch it.
As a chemist in the coatings industry, I find it very entertaining hearing non-coatings people talk about coatings.
Are there any coatings that would remove scratches?
@@gabeavenia2181 coatings industry chemist doesn't entertain non chemists. It's a one way street.
What did they get wrong? :o
Would like to see him use that hardness test kit on his hair.
Morgan or His dicc
0:41 Oh, he almost did his signature move there ...
I've found with these kinds of products that doing multiple applications and drying sessions helps alot. So apply some, wait 20 minutes, then buff off and repeat 4-5 times
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This makes me appreciate the quality of jerryrigeverything's videos more than I used to.
0:42 As you can in theese instants we can appreciate years and years of training and learning the masterfull skill of gained from all the fails did in the past! Linus i see you are growing and getting evertime ever so slightly better, in that moment a tear come down from my eye as i was thinking about all the times a little pour thing made it to the ground, not because of you no, because of the task it was given to you and still you perpetually kept going, rasing fron every fall, to become better, stronger and to reach this point, but remember the path to follow is still long, there are things you may encounter that you could have never dream or thoght, even if you wabted to, so be careful, don't lose the way, keep rising.
Underrated -Comment- Poetry.
sorry but i didn't read this.
@@gizmofrek your loss
Hm.....
In past used only UI omen (that is dodging and letting things fall & not caring at all.)
Later used only other part of UI (that is let's say attacking) to reduce the damage got by objects while falling by decreasing there momentum.
And now he has finally mastered it
He is using AUTONOMOUS ULTRA INSTINCT! Since last year.
This is the most unscientific test I have ever seen.
Thats why I love it
You know what I hate about smartphones? For the first few months, the oleophobic coating is fine, but then it wears off the more you wipe it down, and starts getting nasty really fast years in. If ceramic coatings could be a permanent oleophobic layer, I'd love for companies to start using that.
When you have once small scratch on your perfect screen:
Should cover the phone with what he uses in his hair....Would be indestructible.
Pretty sure he said he doesn't use anything, just comb with his hands
@@Expllosaoriginal in that case man needs to wash his oily AF hair
Linus said ‘bead off’ = my mind went right in the gutter, happily, finally - having the hots for Linus is a group that I’m part of.
I like the fact that he was centimeters away from dropping the box right at the beginning
Ah yes
"Where's the alcohol?"
That's what I ask myself every morning when I wake up
Bro, don't drink alcohol every morning, stay safe, much love
Ok boomer
4:21 Linus looks like a serial killer😂
with pink watches :D
There's this stuff called edci and it's this green spray you use to coat carbon steel blades in order to protect it from corrosion, it's food safe and also leaves a thinner than thin film on whatever you spray it on, I used it alot on my watches to stop fingerprints on the crystal, might be worth a go
Can you test to see if coating it again would take the scratches off? Could it cover pre-existing scratches or cracks? That would be quite incredible then.
9:32 LTT needs to see more tutorials by Jerry RIPs everything. "How to lit a phone destruction arena"
I protect my phone with a method, that was just discovered by German researchers. Actually if you don't drop your stuff, it wont break. I was amazed when I read an article about that.
Sadly I dropped my phone while reading that...
That was a legendary segway at the end
@ 4:06 oh geeze I thought he was going to say "My handy dandy notebook" xD
"And use it to protect your smartphone..."
Pulls out my exact phone...
That tampered glass is really flat (just like other glass), it didn't have many pores for the coating to sit..
It didn't meant to coat a glass, it's to coat PAINT.. At least test it on plastic back phone, or even better a FOLDABLE SCREEN..
(Of course I highly doubt it'll work, I also doubt it'll protect car paint 😑)
9H hardness is a completely different hardness rating then what the mohs scale uses
I want a follow up to this where a layer of the ceramic coating is put over all those scratches you made! That's where the ceramic was meant to work best, filling in the cracks. Now that we know the ceramic looks and feels identical to the standard gorilla glass, I want to know if it would repair an already scratched screen.
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My two favorite youtube channels related and on a topic ive been wondering about for years. 111/10
Linus - you should try coating dedicated for glass - its slightly different chemistry, so it stays better on the surface
Yes, drops of water flow more "quickly" off the edge of a surface when they are closer to the edge than another set of drops. What a good idea to test that.
Another way he could have tested was to apply a couple drops of water on each side and measure the waters contact angle to the surface, you would immediatly see that the water is more "round" coming off the surface on the coated part
You should try if it can repair the scratches you made...
0:40 He didn't drop it, he's improving!
Interesting. Maybe try using Liquid Armor + The Ceramic coating together. Try applying the Liquid Armor first then the Ceramic coating on half of the screen ; then Apply the Ceramic Coating first then the liquid armor 2nd and see if there is any difference between the 2 combo's.
Would love to see a JerryRig collab. Build him an Asus Jerry"ROG" PC lol.
Thanks for all the likes. I'm not doing so well.
5:39
"Maybe I'll be impressed tomorrow"
That's what she said
No she didn't
Visiting this video a couple of years later, how does this compare to Apple’s Ceramic Shield?
Could it be used perhaps on a older phone, one that's been used for a couple of years and has it's own protective film worn off? How much of a difference would that make?
3:42 when I saw this I was like: YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS
nobody cares :)
+1
@@panzerofthelake4460 wtf bro why so rude, i do care about the CHOSEN ONE
@@floppa_9530 don't worry, I don't get scratched at a level 2 with deeper grooves at a level 3
This one should've been a collab with Jayz2cents he loves his cars stuff
And let him do the ifixit sponsorship part 😂
Jay has a video where he got his camaro ceramic coated.
@@supaapple i know, that's why i commented
id be interested in trying that stuff on those cheap iphone screen replacements that dont have a coating already
I would like to know will this product fill in existing scratches? That might make it worthwhile to use
Linus: “But this is a tech channel not a car channel...”
Jayztwocents: . _ .