I mean the dude was the first fairy king after all, so he gotta be pretty yee strong. And with the commandment, the only thing that making him weaker is his own commandment and the lack of physical strength.
Man I love watching your videos while smoking a blunt nice vibes, critical and objective facts on powerscaling. Please keep this up. You love to see it
I have shoutouts for ur channel everywhere, u speak directly from the manga and have proof to always back it up and u need to be heard by the anime community
Thanks! I’ll stay patient. It took forever for people to accept that Naruto characters could destroy planets, I know things will change for SDS eventually.
When debating I usually try to explain that rewrite light is a light speed attack and Diane causally dodges it back in season 2. They like to use the excuse “Mel was just stated light speed in the manga” during the fight with the archangels ludo is confused on why meliodas is dodging his light. So how would u combat this claim? Is ludo’s light many times faster than light speed or is gowthers magic not light speed at all?
By pure technicality, Gowther's attacks are not light speed. Sure, do they appear to be light beams? Light rays? Yes! However, unless explicitly stated to be light or light speed by a databook, another character, or the author himself, such as the case with Ark being explicitly stated to be light particles, Rewrite Light, Search Light, Broadcast, all of them fall under the attack name fallacy. Does it look like light, named to be light, and acts like light? Yes. However, unless stated to be so by an external source, it's not. I use the lesser Archangels like Tarmiel and their Ark rays, or light rays, for light speed safely because we know Ark is just light particles. However, it is likely that Ludoshel's attack, even if based in Ark, could be faster than regular light.
I also wanna add the most valid way I've used to scale sds to mftl is upscaling from gilthunder even then you have to actually quantify via calcs or multiplers
You're right, which is why I included the three possible metas for scaling the speed. I specified scaling off a hypothetical light speed Gowther to be crazy (which was an allusion to the name fallacy, but you're right, I should have been more specific), even crazier than blitz stacking based off of Gilthunder, which I agree with you is the most logical way to get characters in SDS up to MFTL. It's difficult to do, especially considering the various ways that lightning and its speed are interpreted by different people and how much stock you want to put in power levels versus scaling, which is why I typically stick to the Archangel scaling since Ark is stated to be light particles and the Archangels are shown to use it as a beam.
@@thatguywithapencil well for my scaling I just stick with multipliers (I can give you the scaling if you want) and from there I use the actual stream of lightning not the return stroke because you'd actually have to prove that gilthunder lightning is a return stroke, but basically I upscale from gilthunder as I said and get them to mftl but its iffy sometimes so I would prefer to use the angels as like a mid ball but I can't find any statement's for them being lightspeed other than the mistranslation for zeldres
Thank you! If you found any other SDS scalers on UA-cam, please, tell me, I want to see their content too. The verse is really strong, it just doesn't have enough support. I would like to hear about your scaling too, whatever scaling always helps.
To answer your question in short, I don’t really have a solid debunk for the dwarf star meta. To answer it in long? That’s a good question. The main one I can really think of, is if someone just wants to say "I didn’t see it, so it doesn’t count". I, personally, don’t really mind those arguments as there's no substance to them. I’m going to go super in depth on the explanation in a video to clearly lay it out, because it is solid, it just uses lore rather than on panel stuff or calcs. The secondary one would be, "It’s not consistent with the rest of the series" which I guess someone could argue? If they really want to? I can see that one, but like a lot of battle manga, Seven Deadly Sins has massive power creep. And considering we started with mountain level characters to jump to lesser Archangels being capable of creating entirely separate dimensions while they are literally a fraction of the Supreme Deity's power, you could argue the insane inconsistency and power creep starts with them, not even the Supreme Deity and Demon King, but it’s all really what a person individually wants to accept. Do you have any you can think of? I’m at a loss.
@@thatguywithapencil I think you pretty much explained it. well imo ppl would most likely rule it ou as an outlier. but then again thats the only feat For the supreme diety
You’re right. It’s just creating the Celestial Realm, the goddesses, and beating Elizabeth and Meliodas. Other than that, and her statements about being equal to the Demon King, she's pretty much only a lore character anyway.
@@thatguywithapencil But honestly the star meta seems solid. I'll be using it as a highball until we actually get more information about the celestial realm
Gloxinia will always be one of my favorite commandments!
I mean the dude was the first fairy king after all, so he gotta be pretty yee strong. And with the commandment, the only thing that making him weaker is his own commandment and the lack of physical strength.
That is true.
Man I love watching your videos while smoking a blunt nice vibes, critical and objective facts on powerscaling. Please keep this up. You love to see it
Ey, glad you enjoy!
It consistently frustrates me that your vids don’t get hundreds of thousands of views like they deserve
Thanks, I'll take what I can get though. I'm glad anyone has noticed me!
I have shoutouts for ur channel everywhere, u speak directly from the manga and have proof to always back it up and u need to be heard by the anime community
Thanks! I’ll stay patient. It took forever for people to accept that Naruto characters could destroy planets, I know things will change for SDS eventually.
I think that Galland in the past is actually stronger than Galland in the present as his Magic is mostly sealed and he only ate a couple souls.
Good video, great drawing and I'm very excited for that meliodas video!
Thank you and I can’t wait to provide!
Thank you for the 7DS content.
More than happy to provide! Thank you for watching it.
When debating I usually try to explain that rewrite light is a light speed attack and Diane causally dodges it back in season 2. They like to use the excuse “Mel was just stated light speed in the manga” during the fight with the archangels ludo is confused on why meliodas is dodging his light. So how would u combat this claim? Is ludo’s light many times faster than light speed or is gowthers magic not light speed at all?
By pure technicality, Gowther's attacks are not light speed. Sure, do they appear to be light beams? Light rays? Yes! However, unless explicitly stated to be light or light speed by a databook, another character, or the author himself, such as the case with Ark being explicitly stated to be light particles, Rewrite Light, Search Light, Broadcast, all of them fall under the attack name fallacy. Does it look like light, named to be light, and acts like light? Yes. However, unless stated to be so by an external source, it's not. I use the lesser Archangels like Tarmiel and their Ark rays, or light rays, for light speed safely because we know Ark is just light particles. However, it is likely that Ludoshel's attack, even if based in Ark, could be faster than regular light.
I don't remember any if those attacks being stated lightspeed and just assuming gowthers attacks are light based on the name is name fallacy
I also wanna add the most valid way I've used to scale sds to mftl is upscaling from gilthunder even then you have to actually quantify via calcs or multiplers
You're right, which is why I included the three possible metas for scaling the speed. I specified scaling off a hypothetical light speed Gowther to be crazy (which was an allusion to the name fallacy, but you're right, I should have been more specific), even crazier than blitz stacking based off of Gilthunder, which I agree with you is the most logical way to get characters in SDS up to MFTL. It's difficult to do, especially considering the various ways that lightning and its speed are interpreted by different people and how much stock you want to put in power levels versus scaling, which is why I typically stick to the Archangel scaling since Ark is stated to be light particles and the Archangels are shown to use it as a beam.
@@thatguywithapencil well for my scaling I just stick with multipliers (I can give you the scaling if you want) and from there I use the actual stream of lightning not the return stroke because you'd actually have to prove that gilthunder lightning is a return stroke, but basically I upscale from gilthunder as I said and get them to mftl but its iffy sometimes so I would prefer to use the angels as like a mid ball but I can't find any statement's for them being lightspeed other than the mistranslation for zeldres
Also I fw your page a lot I've been tryna find sds scalers on UA-cam for the longest lol
Thank you! If you found any other SDS scalers on UA-cam, please, tell me, I want to see their content too. The verse is really strong, it just doesn't have enough support. I would like to hear about your scaling too, whatever scaling always helps.
Good video
Appreciate the support! Thank you!
@@thatguywithapencil will you rank the sins?
Yeah, I will, but most likely after I do all their respect and how strong is videos.
@@thatguywithapencil are you gonna review the upcoming lancelot one shot?
Most certainly!
Sick!
Thanks! Greatly appreciated!
Great video
Thank you! Greatly appreciated!
Yo what’s the name of the song for the glox intro cause it is fire
God Shattering Star from Fire Emblem 3 Houses. It do be slapping!
lol I wouldnt put Gloxinia at planet level, I would say small country and relativistic+ but I see your scaling
I know, and I pretty much agree. In normal safer scaling I can definitely see that. It’s the newer lore based scaling that gets him up there.
@@thatguywithapencil ya definitely
Meliodas ?
I gotchu in two weeks bro.
@@thatguywithapencil cant wait
What do you think The debunk might be for the star lvl meta?
To answer your question in short, I don’t really have a solid debunk for the dwarf star meta. To answer it in long?
That’s a good question. The main one I can really think of, is if someone just wants to say "I didn’t see it, so it doesn’t count". I, personally, don’t really mind those arguments as there's no substance to them. I’m going to go super in depth on the explanation in a video to clearly lay it out, because it is solid, it just uses lore rather than on panel stuff or calcs. The secondary one would be, "It’s not consistent with the rest of the series" which I guess someone could argue? If they really want to? I can see that one, but like a lot of battle manga, Seven Deadly Sins has massive power creep. And considering we started with mountain level characters to jump to lesser Archangels being capable of creating entirely separate dimensions while they are literally a fraction of the Supreme Deity's power, you could argue the insane inconsistency and power creep starts with them, not even the Supreme Deity and Demon King, but it’s all really what a person individually wants to accept.
Do you have any you can think of? I’m at a loss.
@@thatguywithapencil I think you pretty much explained it. well imo ppl would most likely rule it ou as an outlier. but then again thats the only feat For the supreme diety
You’re right. It’s just creating the Celestial Realm, the goddesses, and beating Elizabeth and Meliodas. Other than that, and her statements about being equal to the Demon King, she's pretty much only a lore character anyway.
@@thatguywithapencil But honestly the star meta seems solid. I'll be using it as a highball until we actually get more information about the celestial realm
@@thatguywithapencil
Where does Meliodas and mael scale to tho?