Absolutely Love GC's videos well done! Understood this review was done 2 yrs ago.... But having owned Sworks SL6 and the Venge, and just recently found a 2nd hand SL7... I must say, the SL7 has the best combo of both SL6 & Venge. In terms of SL6 vs SL7. the major difference I found is the stiffness. SL7 is much stiffer. if you are looking for comfort, stick with your SL6.. but if you like to throw in a couple of hard-effort sprinting etc. SL7 will put a smile on your face. Now SL7 vs Venge? Venge is still must fastest ride on the flat... Strava PR don't lie lol... But if you going to be doing a 150km+ ride with 1000m+ elevation .... you wish you had brought your SL6 with you. The SL7 engineers have done a fantastic job! It is a One-Bike-Rule them all in terms of stiffness vs comfort (did they mention more Aero?). Please don't take my word for it, best to organise a 100km demo day ride with your local bike Specialized dealer.
yea the sl6 was an amazing bike for them now it just seems like all the companies out there are just making the same looking bikes and there isnt much more to do to them lol
Nice informative comparison. I have Sworks SL6 disc, I’m so very impressed by it that I’ll skip the SL7 as there is not too much difference! Great channel by the way👍
Love these videos. Other than words, no one ever compares directly year on year changes..... would love to see a Roubaix comparison from current to previous version.
I’ve gotten so spoiled with my 2020 Roubaix with that future shock system, I don’t know how my body will respond to the road vibrations again... 🤔… it’ll adapt... 😆🙌🏽
It’s to the point where I like the videos before I even watch. Great video! I have a SL6 and the difference isn’t big enough to warrant the cost, for me anyway.
@@Slowjo1221 I have the 6 Pro (rim brakes). I don't see the point of upgrading to the 7... Unless you want the "cleaner" front end look of the 7, then get the 7. The nonsense that Specialized advertises, "4X seconds over XX KM"... That's just garbage. The average cyclist won't even notice the "aero drag" of the sl6 vs sl7.... Let alone a sl3 to sl5. Marginal gains, it's all mental. Your body (motor) is what differentiate between current bike and any older bikes.
I sincerely believe it wasn’t that discernible until you put the bikes next to each other, size does matter! The difference between Some of subtle aero lines are SIGNIFICANT, especially the front end, the forks, the head angle, it makes it seem like the bikes are separated by years. Having cables shown versus having cables disappear, Priceless! Again, looks like they’re separated by years
The frame of my Roubaix S-Works cracked in the middle of the pandemic (no bikes in market). Thereby, they will exchange it for a tarmac frame SL6 Sagan deconstruction. I was already thinking of switching to Tarmac. Good to know that the SL6 is more comfortable and lighter than the SL7 (but less aero). Very good your videos! Best.
My dad just bought himself a new venge so he gave me his old bike, a 2014 roubaix expert. I am just 13 years old, but I am taking cycling very seriously. I have been riding about 90-120 km almost every day since july. I live in brazil and was wondering if you know how I could get into racing at a young age. Thanks
Thats awesome man glad to hear your into the sport so young, I would try and say look around at parks and see if they have any crit races or check on facebook groups to see if anyone has some info on when they are doing any races, it might be hard to find any info right now because of all this covid stuff going, like even in the us I know right now all the fun crit races are not happening because too much risk of spreading. but hopefully son when all this stuff clears up
I built up a 2019 S-Works SL6 frame, and it’s the best tarmac in my opinion. I like the SL7, but I love the sl6 so I don’t see any need to upgrade at the moment. And you’re right, it’s a very comfortable bike! It’s pretty aero too, at least in my experience.
Yea the sl6 platform was more aero then the first generation venge so it was still an aero bike but the venge took the shine of being aero but that sl6 did an amazing job of mixing everything together
No one seems to talk about the wheel gap of the SL7 compared to the SL6. The amount of gap clearance between the frame and tire is huge on the SL7, honestly it looks less aero. When you look at the SL6 , the tires are super close to the frame.
SL6 was the best Tarmac and Vias was the best Venge. Since then they've gradually been merging the two and ended up with a bike that isn't the best in any category. As a heavier rider I don't care much about the weight and the Vias to me is the best looking frame, the fastest aerodynamically and has the cleanest cable routing. The SL7 loses a lot of the aero look of the Venge, the clamped under the handlebars cable is a hack and there is too much plastic in the stem and bars - those tacked on triangles particularly just ruin the look. There is also enough clearance to mount motor-bike tires and it just looks odd for what is supposed to be a sleek road bike.
@@GCPerformance18 Agreed it is a mechanics nightmare, but I build my own bike so I can deal with that. Removing that expander plug without their almost impossible to find PullR tool requires destroying the expander. With all the right tools is doable. To be clear I'm talking about the Vias Disc, wouldn't touch the rim brake version with a ten foot pole.
@@Strop311964 yea i had the venge bias rim brake model di2 sworks the same one thats in the picture on my channel, but I was unsure of my fit at the time so i started stock then I lowered and then I changed stems and then I went back again i changed that bike 3 times, it killed me lol
@@GCPerformance18 OMG I'd need therapy if I had to build the stem that many times.The other reason I love the Vias is the paint job, holographic blue/purple. Prettiest frame ever.
Aside from equipment: (56) SL7... 3mm more reach...1mm longer top tube... 10mm lower stack...12mm shorter head tube = more aero geo. SL6 all day for me.
this man coming in clutch with the specifics!! Love it, and your not the first one to say that I had a couple customers get to ride the bike and say there sticking with there sl6 maybe untill the sl8 comes out
@@GCPerformance18 I just sold my SL6 Expert... only to buy an SL6 S-Works frame and build a custom road machine. Goal is to log 10K miles on it, then see what's out there. Figure 4 years down the road, maybe sooner. The SL7 is sexy... but geo is everything. Personally not a fan of the meshing between the Venge and Tarmac... would have rather seen the Venge line continue on, and maybe just some cockpit updates with the SL6 geo. But that's just me..
You do wonder when you account for the new wheels and aero cockpit how much the aero differences would close up. If you ran the rim brake SL6 with a tririg front brake and the aeroflys I think weight and aero might favour the SL6. Shame the Pro doesn't have the same Sworks frame like the venge. Would also be good as the pro is possibly the most popular version for club racers to make sure there is a neutral colour version. Great to see some creative colouring but hard to match team kits.
I have the opportunty to buy a sl 6 disc or Rim Brake Version and Plan to Upgrade with Aerofly 2 Handlebar an 0Offset Seatpost The Question is Rim or Disc-appreciate your oppinion Michael
Since the SL6 was crazy comfortable, are you saying that the SL7 is more comfortable? I think I mentioned that I ride a 2020 Roubaix Expert Di2 ultegra and I’m thinking about a Tarmac. Question is do I go for the new SL7 or get a nice deal for an SL6?
the sl6 is more comfortable for sure, the sl7 they wanted to make it a little more rigid and a little more snappy, if you can find a nice deal on a sl6 its not a bad option at all and if you can even find an sl7 then thats worth it too lol
Apart from the SL7 stem not being able to hide the cables on the SL6, would it still be compatible fit wise? I’m looking to switch stems and I love the look of the SL7 stem. Thanks!
thanks so much, SL6 Tarmac frame retails for $4500 but you can probably get for cheaper with some stores maybe running some closeouts and the sl7 retails for $5000
GC Performance oh yeah man all the time!😂people putting motors on Walmart bikes is big around our shop too......super annoying. We refuse to work on them, they’re basically impossible to get working right.
@@chancebrown4172 hahahhaa, I was thinking about down the road making a thing people say in a bike shop video lol, I hear it all day..... how did it happen? "i was just riding along"
Ugh, didn’t realise the seatpost is different, anyone have any idea what happens if after 5 years and you snap the SL6 seatpost? That’s my problem with all this proprietary stuff, what about long term replacements? Bikes are not exactly cheap to make it become disposable
hopefuly you can find one in circuit or through ebay or something, but yes that is a problem and maybe specialized would have to step up and try to figure something out, because they arnt making the sl6 with that d style seatpost shape either, only the rounded ones from now on so it will be tough finding parts for it in the future
@@GCPerformance18 yeah but this problem is not unique to specialized though, it's the latest trend from bike manufacturers and one trend I'm not a fan of. My biggest problem is it essentially kills all the small time equipment manufacturers, instead requiring them to work alongside big brands and we'll know how much the small company margins will be squeezed with all this manufacturers.
@@OmarTan yea I understand completely, these companies all want to say there way is the best way just to make more money by cutting costs and making there own stems seatposts etc..... but I mean I guess if I was the company I would be doing the same thing.... it is unfortunate but I dont think me or you can change that :(
@@GCPerformance18 yeah, well I don't fault them for figuring out to cut costs, but the issue is more of standardisation, by making the components uniquely shaped to particular bike model, it essentially throw sustainability out of the window. I will laugh if someday they start using sustainability as a marketing tool while keeping to proprietary parts. Have you seen pro bikes in TdF when they use their sponsor equipments? It looks ugly as the components doesn't match. People complain about all modern bike looks the same, they should complain how all this proprietary stuff makes adding 3rd party components ruins your thousand dollars bike look. And yeah, sadly our comments won't make a difference
@@OmarTan yea i agree, that was one of the coolest things I liked to do whe I got my bike was put on a ncie sprint stem or add whatever handlebar I wantrewd too I know what your tlaking abouit, they go through so many lengths to add there sponser equipment and pretty much redacts all the things they did to the bike to make everything so aero..... yea its like once you buy this high end bike you cant make anything on the bike yours exceppt for the handlebar tape and shit... kind of sucks I miss the days where I can choose to put a zipp seatpost on the bike and zipp out the whole bike and stuff but hey who knows maybe these other companies get into making aero seatposts like a zipp specialized seartpost.... idk
yea your gonnan need tools to put it together, if you have neevr built one just have someone else do it or else you are going to paying money for bottom bracket bearing press and also cassette tool, hydro cable cutters
WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK OF HIS STAGE PERFORMANCE TODAY????? seems like you could fit a bus in between the gap when he went for the stage win on stage 4 lmao
Sagan needs a stronger lead out train to bring him to the front. Because of not having a strong lead out, he's always 8th to 10th wheel... By the time he makes his move, he's already toast.. I want to say, Ewan is the best sprinter. He always out sprinted Sagan and the other heavy hitters for the last couple years. Now, only if he was riding for Specialized... That would be something to witness
@@cpcxgsr bro today sagan was like 3 or 4th in line and the man got worked, I love sagan... HUGEEEEE fan but he got worked today, he was on the wheel and when he started his sprint he had like a 4 rider gap in between him, i dont think his team is gonna do anything for him but still no excuse because the jumbo rider didnt have anyone to help him and he dominated, sagan might be slowing down lol
@@cpcxgsr bro thats aweosme to see rim brakes winning and also on the pinerellos, I dont know how thats gonna twist but what if all the bikies that win from here on out are rims brakes and makes the industry push out more rim brake models lol that would be awesome, I live in florida so it would make my job more easier then having to bleed brakes lmao
@@GCPerformance18 I agree. Sagan days of being the "best sprinter" seems numbered. He has a lot of mileage on him and seemed worn out. He will still be a legend of pro cycling. But for him to be the best in this year's TdF, ehh... Only if the sl7 will give him super powers, then he would be winning every sprint stage.
those bikes are still really good, I know alot of strong riders who still crush it on aluminum, im talking pulling groups!!!, these bikes make it easier yes but the rider at the end of the day is what is the difference
@@GCPerformance18 I'm a specialized fanboy. I've been riding Spesh road bikes for decades. Honestly, I do not believe in Specialized's marketing hype. Do I like their products? Absolutely. Do I believe I will be the "fastest" rider from my weekend group ride (while on the newest Tarmac/sl7), absolutely not. As a rider, you're the motor that makes you as fast/strong as you can be... Unless I'm on a levo, I can only be as strong of a rider that my body allows me to be. Bike is a bike at the end of the day.
@@cpcxgsr I agree, look at caleb riding that ridley dominating those sprints that man is a beats I guarantee it a big brand is gonna pick him up and put him on a big name brand.......Im a huge specialized fanboy we ahve been selling them for over 20 years there bikes are amazing, but all these companies marketing are dogshit but maybe thats what the market calls for because they knwo it is but they have to come up with something now to sell these bikes lol
@@GCPerformance18 I understand that as a company, if you're not evolving, you're being left behind. So in order to sell bikes, you have to constantly "change" even though the evolution is minimal at best.
@@GCPerformance18 I possess both brands, but I've never achieved a podium finish with Shimano, and it tends to experience more frequent breakdowns when compared to SRAM. Let me clarify, Shimano is decent, but it doesn't match up to the quality of SRAM, which is why it is priced lower.
Absolutely Love GC's videos well done! Understood this review was done 2 yrs ago.... But having owned Sworks SL6 and the Venge, and just recently found a 2nd hand SL7... I must say, the SL7 has the best combo of both SL6 & Venge. In terms of SL6 vs SL7. the major difference I found is the stiffness. SL7 is much stiffer. if you are looking for comfort, stick with your SL6.. but if you like to throw in a couple of hard-effort sprinting etc. SL7 will put a smile on your face. Now SL7 vs Venge? Venge is still must fastest ride on the flat... Strava PR don't lie lol... But if you going to be doing a 150km+ ride with 1000m+ elevation .... you wish you had brought your SL6 with you. The SL7 engineers have done a fantastic job! It is a One-Bike-Rule them all in terms of stiffness vs comfort (did they mention more Aero?). Please don't take my word for it, best to organise a 100km demo day ride with your local bike Specialized dealer.
Yea I’m telling you it’s the best of both worlds. Venge speed with a little added comfort of the sl6.
Sl6 was the best tarmac in my opinion. Light slightly aero, maintainable at home. Less weight penalty.
yea the sl6 was an amazing bike for them now it just seems like all the companies out there are just making the same looking bikes and there isnt much more to do to them lol
Nice informative comparison. I have Sworks SL6 disc, I’m so very impressed by it that I’ll skip the SL7 as there is not too much difference! Great channel by the way👍
Thanks so much and I have a lot of customers who think that way too. They feel liek there’s not that much difference to upgrade
Love these videos. Other than words, no one ever compares directly year on year changes..... would love to see a Roubaix comparison from current to previous version.
okay I might eb able to pul that off I think I might have one in the store but thank you for watching
I’ve gotten so spoiled with my 2020 Roubaix with that future shock system, I don’t know how my body will respond to the road vibrations again... 🤔… it’ll adapt... 😆🙌🏽
Lmao I understand, once you get use to something it’s gonna be hard to go back
GC Performance 🤣🤣🤣
It’s to the point where I like the videos before I even watch. Great video! I have a SL6 and the difference isn’t big enough to warrant the cost, for me anyway.
Thank you so much!!!! Im gonna continue to try and get better and get better details for all of you!!
Moe, curious. What's the game changer for the upgrade from the 6 to the 7? Cosmetic upgrade with the Integrated headset?
Eugene Tsang Sorry Eugene. I mistyped, I meant to say the difference “isn’t” big enough. I’ll be holding onto my SL6
@@Slowjo1221 I have the 6 Pro (rim brakes). I don't see the point of upgrading to the 7... Unless you want the "cleaner" front end look of the 7, then get the 7. The nonsense that Specialized advertises, "4X seconds over XX KM"... That's just garbage. The average cyclist won't even notice the "aero drag" of the sl6 vs sl7.... Let alone a sl3 to sl5. Marginal gains, it's all mental. Your body (motor) is what differentiate between current bike and any older bikes.
Eugene Tsang you hit the nail on the head. It’s all marketing.
I sincerely believe it wasn’t that discernible until you put the bikes next to each other, size does matter! The difference between Some of subtle aero lines are SIGNIFICANT, especially the front end, the forks, the head angle, it makes it seem like the bikes are separated by years. Having cables shown versus having cables disappear, Priceless! Again, looks like they’re separated by years
I’m happy I can help and thanks for checking out the video 😁
The frame of my Roubaix S-Works cracked in the middle of the pandemic (no bikes in market). Thereby, they will exchange it for a tarmac frame SL6 Sagan deconstruction. I was already thinking of switching to Tarmac. Good to know that the SL6 is more comfortable and lighter than the SL7 (but less aero). Very good your videos! Best.
Thank you so much!!!! I appreciate, that sounds like thats an amazing deal
My dad just bought himself a new venge so he gave me his old bike, a 2014 roubaix expert. I am just 13 years old, but I am taking cycling very seriously. I have been riding about 90-120 km almost every day since july. I live in brazil and was wondering if you know how I could get into racing at a young age. Thanks
Thats awesome man glad to hear your into the sport so young, I would try and say look around at parks and see if they have any crit races or check on facebook groups to see if anyone has some info on when they are doing any races, it might be hard to find any info right now because of all this covid stuff going, like even in the us I know right now all the fun crit races are not happening because too much risk of spreading. but hopefully son when all this stuff clears up
GC Performance Thank you so much! Love the Chanel, and keep up the great work!
Jo Martins thanks for watching!! And have fun out there, get those kilometers in!!! :)
I built up a 2019 S-Works SL6 frame, and it’s the best tarmac in my opinion. I like the SL7, but I love the sl6 so I don’t see any need to upgrade at the moment. And you’re right, it’s a very comfortable bike! It’s pretty aero too, at least in my experience.
Yea the sl6 platform was more aero then the first generation venge so it was still an aero bike but the venge took the shine of being aero but that sl6 did an amazing job of mixing everything together
I ride the SL6 and love it! The only thing it is missing is integrated cabling.
@@taylorbrasher4252 yea which is minimal inn the big picture of things
@@GCPerformance18 agreed, I just love the sleek sexy look
@@taylorbrasher4252 yea I understand seems like all bieks are going that way
No thanks, my sl6 is perfect and will hold off for a significant upgrade, sl10 maybe
That’s what people said. Maybe the sl8 it will be 3 years
No one seems to talk about the wheel gap of the SL7 compared to the SL6. The amount of gap clearance between the frame and tire is huge on the SL7, honestly it looks less aero. When you look at the SL6 , the tires are super close to the frame.
yea they did that to shave and reduce weight by removing that material, it is like the new shiv tt model has the same wheel gap
I actually like the Sl6 vs Sl7. Cockpit preference in regular round road bars is biggest issue
You can put round bars on the tarmac sl7. It would work lol
SL6 was the best Tarmac and Vias was the best Venge. Since then they've gradually been merging the two and ended up with a bike that isn't the best in any category. As a heavier rider I don't care much about the weight and the Vias to me is the best looking frame, the fastest aerodynamically and has the cleanest cable routing. The SL7 loses a lot of the aero look of the Venge, the clamped under the handlebars cable is a hack and there is too much plastic in the stem and bars - those tacked on triangles particularly just ruin the look. There is also enough clearance to mount motor-bike tires and it just looks odd for what is supposed to be a sleek road bike.
Brooooo did you say venge vias was the best???? I hated that bike from a. Mechanic stand point. It was like a bus too
@@GCPerformance18 Agreed it is a mechanics nightmare, but I build my own bike so I can deal with that. Removing that expander plug without their almost impossible to find PullR tool requires destroying the expander. With all the right tools is doable. To be clear I'm talking about the Vias Disc, wouldn't touch the rim brake version with a ten foot pole.
@@Strop311964 yea i had the venge bias rim brake model di2 sworks the same one thats in the picture on my channel, but I was unsure of my fit at the time so i started stock then I lowered and then I changed stems and then I went back again i changed that bike 3 times, it killed me lol
@@GCPerformance18 OMG I'd need therapy if I had to build the stem that many times.The other reason I love the Vias is the paint job, holographic blue/purple. Prettiest frame ever.
Craig Amey yea I know
I'd still have an SL6 in the camo finish that came out in 2019... Hope that colourway reaches the SL7 at some point.
Agree. I just moved on from that bike but that color is one of the best I've ever seen.
I hope so too but I dont think anything will happen for that frame unless like a limited edition color comes out but maybe next year
Aside from equipment: (56) SL7... 3mm more reach...1mm longer top tube... 10mm lower stack...12mm shorter head tube = more aero geo. SL6 all day for me.
this man coming in clutch with the specifics!! Love it, and your not the first one to say that I had a couple customers get to ride the bike and say there sticking with there sl6 maybe untill the sl8 comes out
@@GCPerformance18 I just sold my SL6 Expert... only to buy an SL6 S-Works frame and build a custom road machine. Goal is to log 10K miles on it, then see what's out there. Figure 4 years down the road, maybe sooner. The SL7 is sexy... but geo is everything. Personally not a fan of the meshing between the Venge and Tarmac... would have rather seen the Venge line continue on, and maybe just some cockpit updates with the SL6 geo. But that's just me..
I’m the same way I hope they bring back the venge down the riad
You do wonder when you account for the new wheels and aero cockpit how much the aero differences would close up. If you ran the rim brake SL6 with a tririg front brake and the aeroflys I think weight and aero might favour the SL6. Shame the Pro doesn't have the same Sworks frame like the venge. Would also be good as the pro is possibly the most popular version for club racers to make sure there is a neutral colour version. Great to see some creative colouring but hard to match team kits.
Yea that could be a possibility but I also know they changed the tubing sizes but yes if you did add that. It could cause it to be very close
I have the opportunty to buy a sl 6 disc or Rim Brake Version and Plan to Upgrade with Aerofly 2 Handlebar an 0Offset Seatpost
The Question is Rim or Disc-appreciate your oppinion
Michael
Thanks for the honest opinion!
of course!!!! I wanna be as transparent as possible and if you ever have questions feel free to ask :)
I have an Sworks SL4 and am planning on getting the SL7. There's a wait apparently.....the red and black are pretty much sold out.
yeaaaa red and black are gone for the year as of right now but the color was so amazing
Looking at the green and black one with enve wheels SRAM Red group
Since the SL6 was crazy comfortable, are you saying that the SL7 is more comfortable? I think I mentioned that I ride a 2020 Roubaix Expert Di2 ultegra and I’m thinking about a Tarmac. Question is do I go for the new SL7 or get a nice deal for an SL6?
the sl6 is more comfortable for sure, the sl7 they wanted to make it a little more rigid and a little more snappy, if you can find a nice deal on a sl6 its not a bad option at all and if you can even find an sl7 then thats worth it too lol
Apart from the SL7 stem not being able to hide the cables on the SL6, would it still be compatible fit wise? I’m looking to switch stems and I love the look of the SL7 stem. Thanks!
yes it works no problem :)
A new Sworks tarmac axs red etap for 8500 or the sl7 pro which would you do consider all the extra in the sworks sl6
Sworks sl6 seems like a banger deal, but I would go sl7 just because of the newer platform
How about S works SL6 vs Specialized SL7 Pro? Which one would you prefer? I assume the prices would just be close for the 2 bikes.
Sl7 pro all day, your getting the nicer technology
Good honesty.
thanks I try tooo
The rear tire on the SL6 is on backwards.
yea I know customer put that on himself lol
Bothhh dope broo!!
I loved my sl6 but I would stil choose sl7 all day now if I was buying new just because i like the way the integration is going
I noticed the rear wheel tire rotation is backward for SL6
yea I know the customer put this on himself
@@GCPerformance18 ohh that’s weird, is there any effects? Of putting it backward cus the tire have rotation
bruh, that customer runs that back GP 5000 tire tread backwards 😂😂
yea I know they installed it themselves I think they never realized it
The rear tire on the SL 6 is on backwards
Yes I know, customer put it on himself 😁
Hello! Nice content. One question, what's the price for just the frame on both?
thanks so much, SL6 Tarmac frame retails for $4500 but you can probably get for cheaper with some stores maybe running some closeouts and the sl7 retails for $5000
Do you think it is possible to retrofit the integrated style stem and handlebars of the SL7 on the SL6?
it owuld be very hard and also not covered by warranty but I am sure there is a way
The rear tire is on backwards on the sl6!!
lmao, i know customer put it on himself
GC Performance I’m also a mechanic at a bike shop, it’s so funny seeing what people do when they work on their own stuff! Haha
@@chancebrown4172 hahah yes, ussually turns into things we have to repair.......... do you ever get the I use to race BMX line?
GC Performance oh yeah man all the time!😂people putting motors on Walmart bikes is big around our shop too......super annoying. We refuse to work on them, they’re basically impossible to get working right.
@@chancebrown4172 hahahhaa, I was thinking about down the road making a thing people say in a bike shop video lol, I hear it all day..... how did it happen? "i was just riding along"
Nice
nice to you too
Ugh, didn’t realise the seatpost is different, anyone have any idea what happens if after 5 years and you snap the SL6 seatpost? That’s my problem with all this proprietary stuff, what about long term replacements? Bikes are not exactly cheap to make it become disposable
hopefuly you can find one in circuit or through ebay or something, but yes that is a problem and maybe specialized would have to step up and try to figure something out, because they arnt making the sl6 with that d style seatpost shape either, only the rounded ones from now on so it will be tough finding parts for it in the future
@@GCPerformance18 yeah but this problem is not unique to specialized though, it's the latest trend from bike manufacturers and one trend I'm not a fan of.
My biggest problem is it essentially kills all the small time equipment manufacturers, instead requiring them to work alongside big brands and we'll know how much the small company margins will be squeezed with all this manufacturers.
@@OmarTan yea I understand completely, these companies all want to say there way is the best way just to make more money by cutting costs and making there own stems seatposts etc..... but I mean I guess if I was the company I would be doing the same thing.... it is unfortunate but I dont think me or you can change that :(
@@GCPerformance18 yeah, well I don't fault them for figuring out to cut costs, but the issue is more of standardisation, by making the components uniquely shaped to particular bike model, it essentially throw sustainability out of the window. I will laugh if someday they start using sustainability as a marketing tool while keeping to proprietary parts.
Have you seen pro bikes in TdF when they use their sponsor equipments? It looks ugly as the components doesn't match. People complain about all modern bike looks the same, they should complain how all this proprietary stuff makes adding 3rd party components ruins your thousand dollars bike look.
And yeah, sadly our comments won't make a difference
@@OmarTan yea i agree, that was one of the coolest things I liked to do whe I got my bike was put on a ncie sprint stem or add whatever handlebar I wantrewd too I know what your tlaking abouit, they go through so many lengths to add there sponser equipment and pretty much redacts all the things they did to the bike to make everything so aero..... yea its like once you buy this high end bike you cant make anything on the bike yours exceppt for the handlebar tape and shit... kind of sucks I miss the days where I can choose to put a zipp seatpost on the bike and zipp out the whole bike and stuff but hey who knows maybe these other companies get into making aero seatposts like a zipp specialized seartpost.... idk
Would not be better to get one size bigger frame to avoid so many spacers?
but then that affects the reach, you do not need that many spacers but all bikes come with that stock, you can cut them away if you liek
Any news when Specialized will have SL7 in stock?
There coming in and out now. I just got 2 sworks in store recently
How easy is it to buy an SL6 frame set and then build it up from scratch. Do I need any special tools? I see one for 2k Euros available
yea your gonnan need tools to put it together, if you have neevr built one just have someone else do it or else you are going to paying money for bottom bracket bearing press and also cassette tool, hydro cable cutters
@@GCPerformance18 yeh, I decided that I will go with a SL7 at some point. I just love the internal cable routing much more. Looks amazing.
Can I use 700c x 28 tires in the Tarmac?
yes you can get away with 33s on there
what about SL2 (fact 8r) vs SL6 vs SL7
just save the dough?
Yea I wouldn’t even compare the sl2 I rode the sl2 for a long time, it’s nice bike but in compare to the sl6 or sl7 it’s night and day
WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK OF HIS STAGE PERFORMANCE TODAY????? seems like you could fit a bus in between the gap when he went for the stage win on stage 4 lmao
Sagan needs a stronger lead out train to bring him to the front. Because of not having a strong lead out, he's always 8th to 10th wheel... By the time he makes his move, he's already toast..
I want to say, Ewan is the best sprinter. He always out sprinted Sagan and the other heavy hitters for the last couple years. Now, only if he was riding for Specialized... That would be something to witness
Also, rim brakes are not dead! Today, Jumbo won with rim brakes! Ineos is still rocking rim brakes. So that should tell you something!
@@cpcxgsr bro today sagan was like 3 or 4th in line and the man got worked, I love sagan... HUGEEEEE fan but he got worked today, he was on the wheel and when he started his sprint he had like a 4 rider gap in between him, i dont think his team is gonna do anything for him but still no excuse because the jumbo rider didnt have anyone to help him and he dominated, sagan might be slowing down lol
@@cpcxgsr bro thats aweosme to see rim brakes winning and also on the pinerellos, I dont know how thats gonna twist but what if all the bikies that win from here on out are rims brakes and makes the industry push out more rim brake models lol that would be awesome, I live in florida so it would make my job more easier then having to bleed brakes lmao
@@GCPerformance18 I agree. Sagan days of being the "best sprinter" seems numbered. He has a lot of mileage on him and seemed worn out. He will still be a legend of pro cycling. But for him to be the best in this year's TdF, ehh... Only if the sl7 will give him super powers, then he would be winning every sprint stage.
SL6 GP5000 rear tire on backwards
yessss I know, trust me I have heard it all the time, but the customer put it on himself lol
Tire is on wrong, SL6, waves should be going back, nice bikes but I can still buy 2 giants for the price of one of those bikes!
Yes I’m aware of the tire lol, and yes you can buy two lower end specialized for those prices too
yet I still ride an aluminum bike...
The allez is a damn good aluminum bike. Honestly, I'd pick up an allez sprint over the sl7. All day.
those bikes are still really good, I know alot of strong riders who still crush it on aluminum, im talking pulling groups!!!, these bikes make it easier yes but the rider at the end of the day is what is the difference
@@GCPerformance18 I'm a specialized fanboy. I've been riding Spesh road bikes for decades. Honestly, I do not believe in Specialized's marketing hype. Do I like their products? Absolutely. Do I believe I will be the "fastest" rider from my weekend group ride (while on the newest Tarmac/sl7), absolutely not. As a rider, you're the motor that makes you as fast/strong as you can be... Unless I'm on a levo, I can only be as strong of a rider that my body allows me to be. Bike is a bike at the end of the day.
@@cpcxgsr I agree, look at caleb riding that ridley dominating those sprints that man is a beats I guarantee it a big brand is gonna pick him up and put him on a big name brand.......Im a huge specialized fanboy we ahve been selling them for over 20 years there bikes are amazing, but all these companies marketing are dogshit but maybe thats what the market calls for because they knwo it is but they have to come up with something now to sell these bikes lol
@@GCPerformance18 I understand that as a company, if you're not evolving, you're being left behind. So in order to sell bikes, you have to constantly "change" even though the evolution is minimal at best.
hey do you have a bike shop with bikes for sale?
Yea I’m in south Florida where are you located
@@GCPerformance18 do you have a website? i'm up in NYC.
Mazi M send me an email grantcordery@gmail.com
Tarmac Disc Pro SL6 Sram Etap 25% - Deal is perfect?
that sounds really nice if you can get one
Shimano is crap. Sram is better
its crazy the different answers I get from this all the time
@@GCPerformance18 I possess both brands, but I've never achieved a podium finish with Shimano, and it tends to experience more frequent breakdowns when compared to SRAM. Let me clarify, Shimano is decent, but it doesn't match up to the quality of SRAM, which is why it is priced lower.