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Is the extra $5,000 worth it? Specialized Tarmac SL7 S-Works vs Pro

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 491

  • @Joshua-dx7zn
    @Joshua-dx7zn 2 роки тому +257

    This is basically what I heard: "If I crash, it isn't my bike". Man I need a sponsor.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +62

      and that's basically what i said lol. i'm super lucky for sure, but i spent 10 years devoted to the sport, without any success, before i had any sponsors.

    • @geraldtone5914
      @geraldtone5914 2 роки тому +3

      @@NorCalCycling Jeff, what is your occupation?

    • @Joshua-dx7zn
      @Joshua-dx7zn 2 роки тому +1

      @@NorCalCycling I'm not hating. I'm totally envious of your abilities and both bikes.

    • @JimUe1
      @JimUe1 2 роки тому +2

      I heard i'm gonna be winning crits. wow!

    • @Mollymollyboy
      @Mollymollyboy 2 роки тому +1

      @@geraldtone5914 he's a freaking scientist. Fact. And he actually looks like Tony Stark! Haha

  • @whatwelearned
    @whatwelearned 2 роки тому +540

    It's been proven that the faster bike is the one with tan side walls

    • @TenSapphires
      @TenSapphires 2 роки тому +21

      And gold chain adds 5 Watts!

    • @MrHellothisisme
      @MrHellothisisme 2 роки тому +16

      False… it’s the red bike. Always the red bike.

    • @ruffrydazz2032
      @ruffrydazz2032 2 роки тому +4

      They're called "dick skins".

    • @JonReid
      @JonReid 2 роки тому +2

      @@ruffrydazz2032 😂

    • @indusrtial
      @indusrtial 2 роки тому +1

      Aligned valve stem to logo adds another 5% of power as well.

  • @peterkiraly6699
    @peterkiraly6699 2 роки тому +46

    U got me into cycling and now I cycle every day

  • @stevengraham7627
    @stevengraham7627 2 роки тому +35

    This is the video we all wanted and no one else "in the industry" will make. Thanks!

  • @robthompson6674
    @robthompson6674 2 роки тому +41

    Good stuff. I love "hacking" the cost of race bikes. I bought a used 2018 Tarmac SL6 with eTap for $2215, swapped the wheels from my old bike (ENVE SES 5.6 that I've trained/raced on for over 5 years, so that investment has more than paid off) and created a legit road rocket for less than the cost of the standard SL7 frameset. While I'm not competing in Pro 1/2 races, it has helped me reach occasional Cat 3 glory. Even better is hitting Strava PR's in my 50th year of life (beating times I set as a racer when I was 5-15 years younger RULES)

    • @AndrewCJXing
      @AndrewCJXing 2 роки тому +1

      wow, that’s an amazing deal for a 2018 sl6 with etap.

    • @robthompson6674
      @robthompson6674 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndrewCJXing It was in the "before times" (before supply chain issues) and it's rim brake (everyone wants disc) but it was a really good deal and has been a phenomenal race bike

    • @AndrewCJXing
      @AndrewCJXing 2 роки тому

      @@robthompson6674 Oh I miss that time so much. But anyway, sl6 rim for 1 grand and eTap for another grand either it's force or red, is simply a no-brainer deal. Could you share some pictures of the bike?

    • @robthompson6674
      @robthompson6674 2 роки тому

      @@AndrewCJXing
      No clue how to attach an image to a reply on UA-cam. Sorry.

  • @chiefrocker12
    @chiefrocker12 2 роки тому +80

    Enter the Allez Sprint, relatively cheap frame, rigid enough and ideal for crits. Fair test. Would like to see you get your hands on one

    • @davidnicholson6680
      @davidnicholson6680 2 роки тому +14

      They're awesome bikes and standard issue for crit racers. An Allez Sprint with Rival AXS and Winspace Hypers is probably the best, fastest race bike for the money you're gonna find.

    • @bernardo9202
      @bernardo9202 2 роки тому +1

      isnt the merida reacto or scultura a better option? for a first road bike?

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +29

      I think the allez sprint is a great choice, especially for not very technical or hilly crits. pair it with fast wheels/tires and that's a very capable setup.

    • @richardggeorge
      @richardggeorge 2 роки тому

      @@bernardo9202FYI, Merida can't be sold in USA. They are the best value mainstream brand here in Australia last time I checked. If I was to buy new i would probably get a Reacto if there was sufficient tyre clearance.

    • @bernardo9202
      @bernardo9202 2 роки тому

      @@richardggeorge yeah i know because of the deal with specialized whey yhey bought 20%.
      I was with same though, still looking for the domane or the cx trek released some time ago

  • @DanielHernandezBC
    @DanielHernandezBC 2 роки тому +30

    Great video Jeff, just 2 things to improve on for the next tests:
    1. Weight yourself before every run and make sure to weight the same (adjust with water). The body weight difference between runs due to sweat is usually a LOT more than you think (1lb+)
    2. The difference in power between runs look small, but 3w on 300w is already a 1% difference. So you should try to take it into account in your conclusions, or try to make them exactly the same by looking at a "lap power" field in you garmin and adjunting throughout the run.
    I did a similar test in a video but with different PSI on the wheels, and had to take into account all these "small" details for the test to really be relevant.

    • @Thom4aa4s
      @Thom4aa4s 2 роки тому +9

      At the end of the day, the results would still be the same. Small differences for an extra 5000$.

  • @dutypaidrock
    @dutypaidrock 2 роки тому +33

    Thank you Jeff for the honesty. For those questioning the accuracy - what, you think suddenly your 'improvements' are going to yield differences that can justify (and let's all remind ourselves here...) a $5,000 difference?! I can't even conceive of a performance increase that could justify that.
    PLEASE, let's all quit this delusion that we're getting 'value for money' from the bike industry. You're paying $5,000 for a decal. If that's how much you value 'street credibility', then knock yourselves out, but stop with the post hoc justification based on zero measurable value. They're skinning us alive and we're lapping it up like thirsty puppies [/mixedcliches], and so long as we do, they'll keep jacking the prices up every year for their "7% more aero performance" marketing claims.

    • @thomasvmanning
      @thomasvmanning 2 роки тому +4

      I mean, it was 2 pounds lighter. That ain't nothing. It's not significant for most people, but not nothing.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +13

      it's lighter and comes with a faster wheel/tire setup, so the difference isn't nothing. if you're at the absolute peak of training/fitness, justifying the extra $$ might make sense. I hope my video makes that clear so people make informed purchase decisions.

    • @dutypaidrock
      @dutypaidrock 2 роки тому +6

      @@thomasvmanning $2,500 per lb. Just... no.

    • @marcalvarez4890
      @marcalvarez4890 2 роки тому +2

      " a $5,000 difference?! I can't even conceive of a performance increase that could justify that."
      ...EPO, HGH, and steroids have entered the chat....

    • @ithanil4429
      @ithanil4429 2 роки тому +2

      @@dutypaidrock What you seem to neglect is that $2,500 isn't worth the same to everyone. For some people it is literally pocket money, while others might need a long long time to save that up. So yeah, I think if you have to compromise any other aspect of your life to buy the $5000 bike frame (!) over one with much better value, it's not worth it at all.

  • @marshallman6591
    @marshallman6591 2 роки тому +29

    I'm no A/V geek but I feel like editing all this takes a long time. At least to do it well like you've done here. Great content. Thanks.

  • @gabrieloperana2728
    @gabrieloperana2728 2 роки тому +97

    And the white sl7 pro to me definitely looks a lot cleaner, the paint on the sworks sure looks nice but a clean white bike is just chef's kiss worthy. And mind if I ask, but is the 2000$ racebike/setup video still coming? Love the content!

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +18

      yes, it's coming

    • @87togabito
      @87togabito 2 роки тому +1

      I usually would prefer the Sworks. But I went with the pro this time because the white of the pro just, imo, looked so much better

    • @scottbaker5851
      @scottbaker5851 2 роки тому +3

      @@NorCalCycling
      I was told by Joe Bell a custom frame painter that white bikes are heavier. It takes more paint to cover the frame.

  • @user-sc6wb7kg5d
    @user-sc6wb7kg5d Рік тому +2

    Love the segment, super valuable for a casual rider like me to make an evidence-based decision about how much money to spend on a road bike. Keep them coming!

  • @8rk
    @8rk 2 роки тому +3

    Top end bikes from 5 years ago is also a great alternative. Last year I sold my S-Works SL7 to get a Rim brake supersix. Never been happier! Wallet is so much heavier though :P

  • @EliCriffield
    @EliCriffield 2 роки тому +11

    Please do 32c tires vs 25c tires, with a variety of pressures on the same course!

  • @facingup1624
    @facingup1624 2 роки тому +41

    Jeff: "On this miserable California winter day"
    me: looks outside and sees a lasagna of ice, snow, and sand in central Canada :/

    • @ianbent0n
      @ianbent0n 2 роки тому

      mmm lasagna

    • @jeenyussnow101
      @jeenyussnow101 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, why he drives a AWD car when there's no snow at all 🌨️

    • @quarkonium3795
      @quarkonium3795 2 роки тому

      Yeah, we are lucky in California. Just today it was 26 C where I live

  • @martinhudobivnik5895
    @martinhudobivnik5895 2 роки тому +3

    This is so much more enjoyable to watch than the GCN tests.

    • @nuttynut722
      @nuttynut722 2 роки тому

      yes, without all the stupid pump track

  • @maxw5229
    @maxw5229 2 роки тому +2

    You are welcome Jeff, enjoy giving you the pleasure do do what you want. :)

  • @mathewrose2951
    @mathewrose2951 2 роки тому +2

    I upgraded my ride to a Bianchi Oltre XR4 with all the DuraAce and Ceramicspeed goodies. I don't race, but I enjoy the livelier acceleration and (strangely) reduced harshness. I'd say that the bike subjectively "feels" like 10-15% better than what I'd had, but at double the cost. As a MAMIL, however, I'm okay with that. It's very subjective, but it works if it's worth it for you.

  • @tenderlovellcare
    @tenderlovellcare 2 роки тому +15

    I really enjoy these videos. Thanks for all your content Jeff. Really enjoyable and really educational content. Much respect and kudos to you man. 🤙🏻

  • @roadkill_toronto
    @roadkill_toronto 2 роки тому +1

    The more people like yourself able to share info with a guy like myself who is currently unable is only going to help push things further farther and faster. Thanks.

  • @juancarlosc.c.8565
    @juancarlosc.c.8565 2 роки тому +1

    Recently, I saw the White Tarmac at Specialized Store and it looks really really amazing, I felt in love with it 😍.

  • @bradleyleeper9517
    @bradleyleeper9517 Рік тому

    just rewatched this twice. Still one of my favorite videos on the tarmac differences

  • @justinossa7349
    @justinossa7349 2 роки тому +2

    So jealous of your Garage. So neat and organized for the videos.

  • @tyleromeo
    @tyleromeo 2 роки тому +6

    Thanks Jeff for the video. This is exactly why I got the SL7 Pro (Di2) instead of the S-Works for $5000 more. I am not good enough to benefit from the 1-2% benefits and don't care about the S-Works badge on the frame to make me feel fast.

    • @MFASonic
      @MFASonic 2 роки тому +1

      True. Count me in. Still I always buy S-Works, just to make sure it is definitely me who failed, not the bike.

    • @czts4778
      @czts4778 Рік тому

      Maybe on climbing it’s not just 1 to 2 percent difference. I’ll buy the sworks.

  • @nurulhuda-kb6lt
    @nurulhuda-kb6lt 6 місяців тому

    I come back to this video every time I’m itching to get a new bike. I’m riding a specialized tarmac sl7 w roval rapide clx wheel set.

  • @trevorfilipiak1247
    @trevorfilipiak1247 2 роки тому +9

    S-Works exists so that the price on the "Pro" seems reasonable

  • @Dramboli
    @Dramboli 2 роки тому +6

    SL7 pro just has this heavy groupset and this is the main reason it's loosing time uphill, otherwise it's nearly the same as the s-works model. Put a dura ace on it and I'm sure there will be no difference.

  • @ucdescents
    @ucdescents 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you for sharing this. Been following you since you had around 100 followers. Which road was this? I also live in the Bay Area.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +6

      Thanks for your support from the beginning!! steven's canyon road to redwood gulch

  • @smits7142
    @smits7142 2 роки тому +2

    wheel setups are most important part of any bike, thats true in every discipline

  • @rsmiii
    @rsmiii 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty much confirms the conventional wisdom: a. Weight savings are for climbers (and weenies); and b. to paraphrase Mars Blackmon: "It's the wheels, Money! It's the wheels!" Thanks, Jeff!

  • @Chrisdakiwi100
    @Chrisdakiwi100 2 роки тому

    Adding the music in now makes the videos super more pro. Love the video and the channel all the way from Auckland, New Zealand 🇳🇿

  • @stylgen
    @stylgen 2 роки тому

    That was awesome! I just got my Favero Electronics Assioma Duo-Shi in yesterday and now I can finally train with power. Keep up the good work. You're videos are awesome!

  • @pup5190
    @pup5190 2 роки тому

    One of my favorite UA-cam channels. Seems like a real nice guy. Thanks for all the cool racing videos !

  • @bdoxsee
    @bdoxsee 2 роки тому +3

    Nice info/video. I would have liked to see what the SWorks mounted with the SL7 wheels would reveal. I’d also like to see what a neutral low/mid profile wheelset on both bike would show weight, segment times and subjective “feel” of the two bikes.

  • @dhess34
    @dhess34 2 роки тому

    You name the hobby, diminishing returns are a thing. Cycling, photography, shooting, speakers/audiophile equipment, pens, watches, etc, etc.

  • @jjjj041
    @jjjj041 2 роки тому +7

    Definitely like this content Jeff! Would love to see an off season training/couch to crit series where you instruct a newer cyclist on off-season workouts on the bike and in the gym too!

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +1

      I have a series called couch to crit! check the channel

    • @jjjj041
      @jjjj041 2 роки тому

      @@NorCalCycling oh yea I’ve watched the whole series already! Wondering if you plan on doing something similar but for the off-season prep for next years race season

  • @donjohn281
    @donjohn281 2 роки тому

    Why am I even here, I ride lowriders and wheelie bikes. But I love this channel 😂😂😂

  • @TurneyUK
    @TurneyUK 2 роки тому +1

    I can’t really tell the difference between the two, except for the paint job. They both look like pretty top end bikes anyway. I wouldn’t be riding the more expensive bike in crits as we all know accidents happen and I’d cry if my best bike got destroyed. Always race a bike that you can crash and can afford to replace if it breaks.

  • @mgoldberg333
    @mgoldberg333 2 роки тому +3

    love these jeff - they make me a better and more informed cyclist.

  • @huddlesteam
    @huddlesteam 2 роки тому +1

    Not sure if you’ve done this before-would love to hear you thoughts and analysis on the latest tire trends and get your thoughts on how they impact speed and climbing. I’m thinking like tubeless vs. super light clincher/latex tubes setup, or something along those lines. I know there’s a lot of “tech” vlogs out there, but your real world experience would be really cool to see here!

  • @michaltreder
    @michaltreder 2 роки тому

    finally some product review and comparison! looking forward to see more!

  • @eliotzbot
    @eliotzbot 2 роки тому +2

    No thank you Jeff for providing the world with dope insights and strat!!

  • @channul4887
    @channul4887 2 роки тому

    I love your in-depth, unbiased videos. Please do a full length feature on the SL7 "recall".

  • @HaveAGoodHeart
    @HaveAGoodHeart 2 роки тому

    tks so much. love your videos as always, short and sharp, full of solid substance!

  • @RichardMigneron
    @RichardMigneron 2 роки тому

    I agree 100%, for crits, there are 2 possibilities and they depend on the course. If the course requires hard braking and sprinting out of corners, you want the lightest wheels possible. On the other hand, if you can take good lines in the corners and not have to sprint out of them, you want the most aero wheels possible. Most everywhere, except steep hills where you are going less than 20 Km/h, aero trumps weight every time - up to a certain point - it is not worth it to spend to save less than 1 Kg on a bike with no other advantages (exemples: swapping all the steel screws for titanium screws or changing thru-axles for lighter ones).

  • @TaylorSmith-tm3sz
    @TaylorSmith-tm3sz 2 роки тому +1

    Definitely glad you did this!

  • @endeavour5316
    @endeavour5316 2 роки тому +1

    Another great Video Mr.Alviso

  • @PayneDeathz
    @PayneDeathz 2 роки тому +1

    I never realize how much of an impact good wheels can have! Great video!

    • @sebaslap
      @sebaslap 2 роки тому +1

      Yes and No right? Like it is an investment of $1k-$2k for a 1-3% improvement!

    • @PayneDeathz
      @PayneDeathz 2 роки тому

      @@sebaslap you know what? I think you're right. I never really considered it that way.

  • @KM-my9zy
    @KM-my9zy 2 роки тому +1

    For the difference of $5,000, the time difference is not big enough. Especially for general riders like me who does not participate in racing will not make sense at all to buy the S-Works. However, to ride the S-Works is just cool. The big question is I wonder why Specialized decided to put $5,000 price difference? I wonder if they were trying to push the sales on PRO model versus the S-Works?

  • @chanito_nyc
    @chanito_nyc 2 роки тому +1

    I kinda have the same problem, don’t know which bike to ride; it’s either my Pinarello F with shimano 12 speed and DT Swiss wheels or my Colnago V3RS with Campy groupset and Campy wheels.
    I promise they both exist, they are in my garage, in my apartment

  • @victordominguez8362
    @victordominguez8362 2 роки тому

    Very good video. It is the same piece of advice that Pedro Delgado sais on Spanish TV many years ago.
    So you have confirmed the same thing than a former TdF winner.
    Btw I had followed his piece of advice.... and now yours. Thank you.

  • @s.jatighetchi9021
    @s.jatighetchi9021 2 роки тому

    Thx Jeff. I’ve contemplating this question for awhile. This vlog absolutely answered all my questions made it clear to me. By the way, 5k difference in price in USD is more like 7k or 8k in CAD$ for me. Cheers and many thx on a great vlog. More content like this is greatly appreciated 👍😃

  • @georgegould1385
    @georgegould1385 2 роки тому

    I’m amazed you left your bike and camera out without it being taken whilst doing these runs!

  • @henrikmadsen6446
    @henrikmadsen6446 2 роки тому

    Jeff - I love this - do more of what you do. Just do what you find fun cuz that carries over to the content.

  • @hclapp219
    @hclapp219 2 роки тому +18

    what if you instead spend your money on a bike that has a properly engineered steerer tube

    • @jcollins782
      @jcollins782 2 роки тому +1

      You are in the wrong comment section, close the door on your way out 👍

    • @jakec1483
      @jakec1483 2 роки тому

      @@jcollins782 🤣🤣🤣

  • @azliazzuri2801
    @azliazzuri2801 2 роки тому +2

    I own Sworks SL7 and SL7 Pro (1X) too. But you know, my SL7 Pro just 7.14kg with roval rapide clx… so i dont feel any different between sworks sl7 and sl7 pro. 😂

  • @johnflynn4923
    @johnflynn4923 2 роки тому +1

    Nice content that clearly illustrates the law of diminishing returns when it comes to barrister price bikes and the importance of decent hoops and rubber and how they are such a big factor in overall performance.

  • @cyclingchefglenn
    @cyclingchefglenn 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks! Great content and comparison

  • @barryaronson9697
    @barryaronson9697 Рік тому

    Weight is a factor whenever, and only, when acceleration is involved. Acceleration can come from gravity (hill climbing) or increasing velocity (accelerating out of a corner in a crit). So, yes, in a straight line on level ground, the frame (and therefore weight) won't make any difference. However, your test should have covered increasing velocity to accurately predict the difference the two frames would make for a crit rider (perhaps a series of intervals).

  • @nickstevenson2147
    @nickstevenson2147 2 роки тому +1

    Good man Jeff. Love you content. Keep it up 👍🏼

  • @sheldonccp9947
    @sheldonccp9947 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Jeff, Perhaps your thoughts on SRAM red vs Force and why you like SRAM over Shimano

  • @NeutralGenericUser
    @NeutralGenericUser 2 роки тому

    Most cycling is about the look and sensation. If it makes you want to go out and ride, get it. If you're after some dubious claims about extra speed, just get a $150 road bike at a garage sale where you'll get the best value. With that said, I got a Winspace, and I'm confident that my T1500 frame is better than any S-Works bike lol

  • @bshebest
    @bshebest 2 роки тому

    Just picked up the black SL7 Pro. Perfect price point for me. Very excited!

  • @avenc8516
    @avenc8516 2 роки тому

    Thank YOU Jeff for your channel and content

  • @Rodolfowei12345
    @Rodolfowei12345 2 роки тому +1

    Great content, that's exactly what i thought that there is no point on spending crazy amounts on a road bike.

  • @ceazy1861
    @ceazy1861 2 роки тому

    I appreciate the work that goes into your production

  • @SWells679
    @SWells679 2 роки тому

    1:30 - Jeff thanks me for watching/subscribing. Me (teary eyed): No, thank YOU, Jeff.

  • @paulseandaniels5031
    @paulseandaniels5031 2 роки тому

    Love the video!!! Something different and definitely makes sense to upgrade on wheels or moving parts!

  • @Obsidian72
    @Obsidian72 2 роки тому

    Seeing Jeff's arms with the long-sleeved kit feels so weird since it looks bread stick thin in the car shot but after watching all the Alviso videos I know how beefed it actually looks from the chest cam.

  • @peacejustice2116
    @peacejustice2116 2 роки тому +1

    Great video and analysis! Love the comparison. Interesting comment on “…miserable California winter….” . I will definitely trade my Boston winter to yours every day…😝

  • @196592
    @196592 2 роки тому +1

    What is the point of the "high end" race bike, if you don't race it?

  • @rainerweick1114
    @rainerweick1114 2 роки тому

    Great Video👍🏿. But if you want to built up a light weight SL7 with individual colors ther only way is the S-Works. Specialized is offering the fancy colors unfortunately only for S-Works. I would use meanwhile the new Zipp 404 instead of Roval as they are tubeless.

  • @mattleaver79
    @mattleaver79 Рік тому

    🧐 2.4% or 1.1% over a mere 3.8 miles? That's utterly unbelievable. I suspect on a 100, as the pace degrades the gap would grow. The $5k is easily worth it given you found any difference at all. S-Works is a no-brainer. Great test.

  • @darsweave
    @darsweave 2 роки тому

    This was awesome man. The music was cool too!

  • @sunshinecycling
    @sunshinecycling 2 роки тому +4

    Definitely one of your more scientific videos. I agree with everything you said...but have one question/point. The S-Works excels at uphill because of the 2+ lbs lighter weight. You did a constant power test. If you are doing a crit, though, it's constant accelerations - whether out of tight turns or attacking. Over the course of an hour or more of accelerating, don't you think your legs would thank you for those 2+ lbs less? Don't you think (if there was a way to test) there may be some statistical difference? Thanks for the vids.

    • @teddansonLA
      @teddansonLA 2 роки тому

      It's a good point. When you are accelerating/decelerating, the power cost to maintain a given average speed scales with the cube of the speed, just like the relation everybody knows for aerodynamic drag. The difference is that the proportionality constant is the total mass of the bike and rider, rather than the total "CdA" of the bike and rider for air resistance.

    • @BevandEdMusic
      @BevandEdMusic 2 роки тому +1

      I guess technically it would be faster, lighter always would be, even if it is minute. But that's like saying, can you accelerate noticeably faster after having a shit, which is obviously ridiculous.
      It's also so tiny that it makes the 5k extra even more laughable.

    • @sunshinecycling
      @sunshinecycling 2 роки тому

      One guy replies discussing the cube of the speed; one guy replies discussing taking a shit.

    • @BevandEdMusic
      @BevandEdMusic 2 роки тому

      @@sunshinecycling doesn't make it wrong though!

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +1

      yes it's a factor for sure, but hard to test. I made a video specifically about weight where I discuss that topic in more detail

  • @tman5634
    @tman5634 2 роки тому

    Pro team mechanic here.
    Save your money guys, don't waste it on overpriced marketing hype.
    Only the very best pro riders can notice the difference in stiffness.

  • @chrisrodgers4950
    @chrisrodgers4950 2 роки тому +2

    Dopest channel on UA-cam

  • @marcuswong1797
    @marcuswong1797 2 роки тому

    I love how his bikes worth more than his car. This is why the Sprint Allez is a Champ of a bike for crits. The weight is negligible, but put on some fast wheels on a $1500 frame and you got a bike as fast or even faster than the sl7. And if you do crash.. its an aluminum bike that cost $1500 and not a $$ carbon bike.

  • @ThrowmeAFrigginbone
    @ThrowmeAFrigginbone 2 роки тому

    Agreed, if the team wants to spend the $$$ let them but an individual can do just as well on a bike with lesser value. Most people will perform differently solo than they do fighting to beat someone in a group (adrenaline kicks in if you don't want to lose) and the few grams or $$$ saved would be hard to justify that difference in $$$. How many people can afford an extra $5k on each bike they own for only minimal increase. If you have only 1 bike the extra $$$ spent may give you more confidence, but not necessarily an advantage on someone.

  • @zenomolteni1253
    @zenomolteni1253 2 роки тому +1

    How can you neglect to mention that the input difference was 3 watts which is about 1%. That may seem insignificant but when the time differences are only 2.4% apart, you can see how that matters

  • @taylorbrasher4252
    @taylorbrasher4252 2 роки тому

    Love these comparisons! Hey what ever happened to the Couch to Crit series? I loved the theory but never saw any follow-up.

  • @BabisCharalamp
    @BabisCharalamp 2 роки тому

    Brilliant, and I agree with the conclusion and advice at the end.

  • @Sir-Prizse
    @Sir-Prizse 2 роки тому

    I don't like Specialized as a company, mostly because of the pricing.... but the design and the performance speak for themselves and that's why I've ordered my Allez Sprint frameset.

  • @timtaylor9590
    @timtaylor9590 2 роки тому +3

    disc vs rim brake is a much hotter topic although ur sponsors may not like the results of that one

  • @joonlee920
    @joonlee920 2 роки тому +1

    Exactly what I thought: 'real' race cyclists don't use the highest end bikes but spend money on the wheelset where it counts. Of course, I shouldn't talk because I don't race and I like high-end bikes...sheesh...

  • @peterkiraly6699
    @peterkiraly6699 2 роки тому +3

    Worth watching u, legend

  • @ChristophPotzinger
    @ChristophPotzinger 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed the video (which applies to all of your vids) and fully agree with your conclusion. Great job. I also like how you store your bikes. Is this a Thule rack from which you picked the SL7?

  • @mikehall6608
    @mikehall6608 2 роки тому

    Great video. This is the content bike lovers worldwide need, so we stop unnecessarily handing over all our money to these bike manufacturers due to their marketing crap.

    • @treygray2817
      @treygray2817 Рік тому

      I think people who purchase an S-works know damn well there's no discernable different between an S-works and the 2nd tier model. You just can't put a price on pride of ownership.

  • @BETRNSX
    @BETRNSX 2 роки тому

    Yes! Love this stuff, gadgets and gear. Definitely don’t want to crash a more expensive bike too.

  • @tanaypatel7204
    @tanaypatel7204 2 роки тому +1

    It may be fast. But it’s as soft as butter. Durianrider gang rise!

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +2

      lol, that guy will say anything for attention

  • @joshmaitie5954
    @joshmaitie5954 2 роки тому

    Love the video and the edits

  • @cccycling5835
    @cccycling5835 2 роки тому

    I’m just a beginner rider doing this for fun and fitness and i’m smashing segments with my Base Allez. If you put me on a S-Works the only difference would be I could flex like polar bear outside a Morgan Hill coffee shop lol

  • @RidingBikes07
    @RidingBikes07 2 роки тому

    Another banger of a vid from NorCal Cycling, lessss gooooo!

  • @Joshua-dx7zn
    @Joshua-dx7zn 2 роки тому +1

    It was in the high 40s here the other day and I was wearing about the same amount of layers you were Jeff. Yall California guys

  • @tieskuijpers936
    @tieskuijpers936 2 роки тому

    Love the content Jeff! Keep it up!

  • @fredkohly6892
    @fredkohly6892 2 роки тому

    Great comparison. Thank you!

  • @olih27
    @olih27 2 роки тому +10

    I hope you have good garage/home security. That is a lot of $ worth in bikes very close to the door 😬

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  2 роки тому +14

      this garage is protected like fort knox

  • @jeremygarcia6510
    @jeremygarcia6510 2 роки тому +3

    Shoot, my wife was right again. 😂

  • @alvin.holbrook
    @alvin.holbrook 2 роки тому +2

    Jeff, what's your take on the Assioma-Shi pedals? They're exactly what I am looking for but the wider Q-factor is a scare.

  • @burnsideisback
    @burnsideisback 2 роки тому

    Got so into this when my sprint interval hit... wasn't paying attention and almost crashed on the stationary haha

  • @mikeadams4591
    @mikeadams4591 2 роки тому +3

    Can I have the S-Works if your not using it lol