Road King, I think you'd love it!! My Brother in-law rides Gold Wings and had to pick up a Road King for a client so he got to drive it for an afternoon bringing it to Maine from New Jersey. You should have seen the grin on his face.
In my pipe building, ive found the pipes that twist with angled/cut pipe, the charge swirls and starts to spin like a vortex. This can be seen by washing the pipe, and the water will come out of the pipe clung to the walls and like a reverse vortex. This could be helping the scavenging inaide the chamber by pulling the charge in a swirling motion. They may use more fuel due to this effect aswell, as none of the charge is coming back in like a tuned pipe but the more out and more in is better in my findings.
@alltherpm if that's all that was occurring every pipe would work... thats not what I've experienced. There's got to be something else starting the draw/suction.
Very nice build. On the subject of trimming and running a saw with no woodruff key, how or where do you lock it down to get a running saw. Maybe a good teaching video to explain the ins and outs. My 272xp build has sheared two keys from kick back. The mag has a molded key. Would be nice to see a clean, clearly explained video on this aspect of a build. Again nice saw. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙
@tdawg8605 I don't want to horn in where I wasn't asked, but in case nobody else answers... the timing key, often mislabeled a "shear key", is only there to correctly orient the flywheel. I run flywheels without keys. I've heard of the keys shearing off before; each time, the shaft or the flywheel was the culprit; the surfaces lock like a morse taper. It doesn't take much of an imperfection to disrupt the locking-together of the two tapers... I little bit of dirt, a "ding" in the flywheel or on the shaft, or about anything. I would hazard a guess, that once one spun, it will be difficult to get it to ever hold again without working the surface(s). Again, hope I didn't step on anyone's toes; further, if there's a different response, a good rule of thumb is to take their advice over mine.
@HayChaffandSawdust1 Thanks for the feedback. All info is good info I say. This 272xp I put together with parts. It never did run. I have a running 272xp that I built and the coil died on it this October. When I tried to swap out the coil from the none running saw, my running saw would not run. I had another old coil so I put it in and my running 272xp started up right away. So I took the old coil out of the running 272xp and tried it in the non-running 272xp and it fired and started but ran poorly, it back fired on a restart and sheared the key. So I was just going to run it without a key however I can't seem to get the timing correct. That's why I'm searching for timing info. If it kicks back is my timing too advanced or not enough? It's been a test of my patience for sure, this saw. Thanks again.
When u say u built it for idling and trigger response, well if u listen to crazy horse any improvement on case volocity does the opposite, snappier the saw the smaller the case volume,,, i would think porting would inlarge volume?
😊😊 HI TINMAN U should always redone a cylinder 2 clean the cylinder up and it will help the piston rings seat alot better and help it have good 👍 😊 compression from loosing HP 😊😊 OMG 11 5 2O24
I cut for a wk then had to switch chains for crappy wood,, didn't have to get a rag and an air compressor to clean it, dgp kept it clean, and I'm anal about my saws
Wow 60,000 🤯 congratulations my guy I remember the setup when you were about to stop making videos with under 1000subs. Amazing channel glad to see you stuck with it. 🦾🧬🎯
😊😊 HI TIMAN 👋 😊 that other pipe didn't work because it didn't have the air flow it needed it should've made the saw pull just like the old school 🏫 😊 saws it should pull just like a tractor 🚜 😊 and a pipe there's no baffle in the muffler either and the sparkplug should be tan or light brown 😊😊 OMG 11 5 2O24
Great video shame I haven't got time to watch them all I've learned loads off you 👌👌🤙🤙
Danny great job on your pipe sounds great nice work jb.
Looking good👍🏻 definitely a keeper!
Enjoy looking into your build. Helps out a lot.
Road King, I think you'd love it!! My Brother in-law rides Gold Wings and had to pick up a Road King for a client so he got to drive it for an afternoon bringing it to Maine from New Jersey. You should have seen the grin on his face.
Nice saw! Sounds great and runs great. Excellent Job
Really enjoy these videos on this saw!
Great stuff, thank you Sir!
i have a 98 dyna w/leather bags! love it! that saw runs and cuts awesome!! a little too heavy for this old man!!
Yeah she's heavy for sure.
In my pipe building, ive found the pipes that twist with angled/cut pipe, the charge swirls and starts to spin like a vortex.
This can be seen by washing the pipe, and the water will come out of the pipe clung to the walls and like a reverse vortex. This could be helping the scavenging inaide the chamber by pulling the charge in a swirling motion.
They may use more fuel due to this effect aswell, as none of the charge is coming back in like a tuned pipe but the more out and more in is better in my findings.
Ever heard of a syphon
@alltherpm if that's all that was occurring every pipe would work... thats not what I've experienced. There's got to be something else starting the draw/suction.
@griffinphilemon5083 it does work but smooth and straight is what air wants to do,
Very nice build. On the subject of trimming and running a saw with no woodruff key, how or where do you lock it down to get a running saw. Maybe a good teaching video to explain the ins and outs. My 272xp build has sheared two keys from kick back. The mag has a molded key. Would be nice to see a clean, clearly explained video on this aspect of a build. Again nice saw. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙
@tdawg8605 I don't want to horn in where I wasn't asked, but in case nobody else answers... the timing key, often mislabeled a "shear key", is only there to correctly orient the flywheel. I run flywheels without keys. I've heard of the keys shearing off before; each time, the shaft or the flywheel was the culprit; the surfaces lock like a morse taper. It doesn't take much of an imperfection to disrupt the locking-together of the two tapers... I little bit of dirt, a "ding" in the flywheel or on the shaft, or about anything. I would hazard a guess, that once one spun, it will be difficult to get it to ever hold again without working the surface(s). Again, hope I didn't step on anyone's toes; further, if there's a different response, a good rule of thumb is to take their advice over mine.
@HayChaffandSawdust1 Thanks for the feedback. All info is good info I say. This 272xp I put together with parts. It never did run. I have a running 272xp that I built and the coil died on it this October. When I tried to swap out the coil from the none running saw, my running saw would not run. I had another old coil so I put it in and my running 272xp started up right away. So I took the old coil out of the running 272xp and tried it in the non-running 272xp and it fired and started but ran poorly, it back fired on a restart and sheared the key. So I was just going to run it without a key however I can't seem to get the timing correct. That's why I'm searching for timing info. If it kicks back is my timing too advanced or not enough? It's been a test of my patience for sure, this saw. Thanks again.
Hey buddy I'm glad you like the pipe
It works great Dan!!
@@DanLathrop nice job Dan on pipe looks and sounds great!!
I love that 394 well what I’ve seen of it that is she a ripper
When u say u built it for idling and trigger response, well if u listen to crazy horse any improvement on case volocity does the opposite, snappier the saw the smaller the case volume,,, i would think porting would inlarge volume?
I'm a small scale logger property clearing guy and the profit margins are thinner then arborist
😊😊 HI TINMAN U should always redone a cylinder 2 clean the cylinder up and it will help the piston rings seat alot better and help it have good 👍 😊 compression from loosing HP 😊😊 OMG 11 5 2O24
Following this one very closely.... I have a box in my shop full of parts to do a complete 394 build.
Hey tinman…you know who sells 305s…..your buddy Donny walker!!
How's the Tinman and family
Try harvest king its a great bar oil and its affordable.
394 my favourite but no cylinder found....
Greetings from Greece
Dgp can be the best bar oil on the planet but if you have to pay for it $116 canadian for a 4L jug makes it not worth it to me
I buy the cheapest Walmart oil I can here in Alberta
I know there is higher shipping costs in Canada because in the USA it is around $120,00 for four gallons including shipping.
@martyrutter3630 that's just the price of the oil but regular fuel is about 6 buck a gallon
Lordco sells bar oil for about $12 per gallon, and I have never had an issue with wear on my bar or chain.
I cut for a wk then had to switch chains for crappy wood,, didn't have to get a rag and an air compressor to clean it, dgp kept it clean, and I'm anal about my saws
I'm up for stihl 036 parts😉
In the near future DGB oil for gas mixture will be available and it will be a game changer also. 👍👍
How so? There are so many great oils out there as is. How is the DGB oil going to be better?
@ Wait and see it will be available in about five months 👍
Why not just get a 500i and port it that would be fun
Wow 60,000 🤯 congratulations my guy I remember the setup when you were about to stop making videos with under 1000subs. Amazing channel glad to see you stuck with it. 🦾🧬🎯
😊😊 HI TIMAN 👋 😊 that other pipe didn't work because it didn't have the air flow it needed it should've made the saw pull just like the old school 🏫 😊 saws it should pull just like a tractor 🚜 😊 and a pipe there's no baffle in the muffler either and the sparkplug should be tan or light brown 😊😊 OMG 11 5 2O24