NEW Kramer Pacer Classic - A Tribute to 80's Hair Metal!

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @jeffkay1977
    @jeffkay1977 2 роки тому +9

    Cheap or not, everyone who has no real experience with a Floyd Rose always trash em'. Every Floyd Rose I've ever owned from the original to the cheap manufacture stamped ones have always been the most rock solid stable tuned guitars. If you're going down the Floyd Rose road then commit to learning how they work. They are truly amazing once you understand them. You are spending so much time learning guitar, learn how to use a Floyd as well. Even the crazy cheap Amazon ones that cost like $25 can be set up well.

  • @mariodriessen9740
    @mariodriessen9740 2 роки тому +27

    Lee's reasoning behind not liking FR style vibrato systems after a bad experience when you started to play guitar, is exactly the same as my experience with vintage style vibrato systems. I wouldn't want anything else than a Floyd Rose or something very similar.

    • @nikolaus2688
      @nikolaus2688 2 роки тому +2

      For me it's the other way round. My first electric had a Floyd Rose, but these days, I much prefer the vintage style Fender ones, or a Bigsby. For my more subtle use of trem, FR is just too much of a hassle to set up, and lacks mishap reistance. Though objectively the better system, I just can't get excited about it.

    • @fasteddievh2072
      @fasteddievh2072 2 роки тому +6

      I totally agree. You nailed it! Especially once you gig with a Floyd Rose. Every other musician in the band has to pause to retune between songs. The lead singer doesn’t ever have to check on me before he starts the song because I’m always in tune and ready to go.

    • @mariodriessen9740
      @mariodriessen9740 2 роки тому +3

      @@nikolaus2688 : It depends on how you set it up. It can be a hassle indeed, but I set them in such a manner that I can only bend down. So I do compromise on most of my guitars in that way. Although I also used to play a couple of strats with FR style bridges and have them set up floating. Never had a problem with it. Once you set it up it’ll never go out of tune. And when I put on new strings I change them one by one and stretch them before I lock everything again.

    • @davidyoung8875
      @davidyoung8875 2 роки тому +3

      vintage style vibrato systems SUCK!! bigtime. Floyd Rose is the only way to go.

    • @krafgeetar4013
      @krafgeetar4013 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah traditional vibratos suck for me mostly, I’ll always go for either a Floyd or Kahler.

  • @PaulCooksStuff
    @PaulCooksStuff 2 роки тому +41

    If purple Pete was picking pentatonics, how many pentatonics per picosecond did purple Pete pick? 🤔

  • @alessandrorossini8704
    @alessandrorossini8704 2 роки тому +7

    Why both gentlemen go on saying that those guitars have 21 frets when they clearly have 22? Lee started the thing at 2:05 and Pete followed at 10:00...🤔 Except that, I enjoyed the video as usual 👍🏼 Ciao! 🤗🎸

  • @TauRiOneill
    @TauRiOneill 2 роки тому +3

    22 frets, not 21.

  • @sonicaids
    @sonicaids 2 роки тому +9

    not a fan of the white pickups with white pickup rings but those metallic finishes are great.

    • @krumple4skin548
      @krumple4skin548 2 роки тому

      Direct mount them

    • @staszewaM
      @staszewaM 2 роки тому +2

      @@krumple4skin548 Or buy some different pickup rings for a few quid?

  • @FranMjolnir
    @FranMjolnir 2 роки тому +10

    They look great. Rabea should have been also in this video.

    • @Chudhole
      @Chudhole 2 роки тому +5

      I’ve been thinking I could use a Lee break. In this instance he clearly doesn’t get how cool pacers are/were.

    • @richierich8334
      @richierich8334 Рік тому

      Why? he's crap at guitar

  • @joffle86
    @joffle86 2 роки тому +4

    Gibson could make Kramer awesome like Fender has revived Charvel. Don’t know why they don’t!?

    • @stilllifewithguitar184
      @stilllifewithguitar184 2 роки тому +2

      If you play this level of Kramer (not the cheapos) against the similarly priced Charvels, they're definitely in the same ballpark quality wise.

    • @MrMatthiasSchneider
      @MrMatthiasSchneider 2 роки тому +1

      I have one of the new NightSwans - apparently they're hit and miss in terms of quality control, but mine is killer.

  • @ericwarrington6650
    @ericwarrington6650 2 роки тому +3

    Hair band child to the core and man do I take alot of shit for it... 😂...u really did have to be there....lol

    • @brucehayes7251
      @brucehayes7251 2 роки тому +2

      And yet,for all the shit you ( and a lot of us) will receive,there can't be much argument that it was all good fun music, regardless of whether the particular bands were attempting to be serious or seriously taking the piss,the music was good( for the most part) and they all really had to have talent. A little forgotten or possibly overlooked today.

  • @stilllifewithguitar184
    @stilllifewithguitar184 2 роки тому +3

    They sound great, wish they had the banana headstock although I get they're going for the 82 look.

  • @PedroYippeekayaye
    @PedroYippeekayaye 2 роки тому +3

    I bought one of these and it arrived. I gotta say it's a good guitar. Alot of value for money. It's up my alley because I only play blues stuff occasionally, most of the time I'm playing heavy rock so this is cool. I played some Hendrix on it earlier because I was in a good mood and it sounds great (clean). I admire you guys' comradery. I know you like Vintage Strats but you can bust out the shred when you feel like it.

  • @Strato13
    @Strato13 2 роки тому +2

    For the money, looks, and sound, it's a great priced guitar.
    They seem to be regularly sold out at Sweetwater Music, as it took a while of regularly checking in on it before I got one!
    I do have some decent "premium" guitars including a aGibson LP, MD my beloved USA 2009 Stratocaster, and this thing is a fun little guitar. Plus I've always wanted a Kramer since I missed out when I was a kid.
    I do love the little toggle, too lol.
    Great review. BTW, Gibson owns Kramer!

  • @kingstumble
    @kingstumble 2 роки тому +3

    Pete on seeing a new batch of guitars arrive: "Is there a purple one?"

  • @ryanteacher8134
    @ryanteacher8134 2 роки тому +2

    The problem you described with the bar doesn't sound like it was related to the quality of the Floyd, but rather the woodwork in the cavity. When I bought my Schecter Nick J strat, it had the problem you just described (like 3 levels of downward pitch). The problem was the bridge hitting the wood on the inside of the cavity. I removed the bridge and just sanded down the cavity a little bit and it was perfect. Nothing to do with the bridge hardware.

  • @enthused7591
    @enthused7591 2 роки тому +1

    If a manufacturer can't afford at least a Floyd 1000 series, they shouldn't be equipping a guitar with a Floyd at all. The generic nameless pickups can be looked past, but a Floyd is only a good idea if it works correctly, and only the 1000 and up work as advertised. I'd rather pay $550 for the same guitar with a Floyd 1000 as opposed to getting a $399 guitar with an inoperable locking trem. It's a shame because the Pacer's always been a great looking guitar, especially with metallic paint - and to not have to shell out $900+ for a full Pacer vintage/limited with Seymour Duncans is a great idea, but they went too cheap with that awful Floyd special/licensed in my opinion.

  • @Anton_the_Vampire
    @Anton_the_Vampire Рік тому +1

    This is one of the most low key "don't buy this" kinda expos I've seen you do, Andertons. I recently bought one of these, a lefthanded one in red, and while it is NOT of the quality of my 2000 Ibanez RG550, It's actually a good guitar. It plays well, sounds nice, has pretty stable tuning and actually the Floyd on it is better than that on my Jackson JS32 Rhoads. (which has the stiffest fine tuners I've played in some 36 years of playing) In short, I like it, it's a half decent guitar (got mine new for £280), and I think people could do a LOT worse for the money.

  • @danielpooleoriginal
    @danielpooleoriginal Рік тому +1

    Just ordered this today from Andertons for just £190. Band new but at an epic deal. £140 off the original price, an absolutely amazing deal. I'm still in shock over the price.

  • @gabedom_
    @gabedom_ 2 роки тому +2

    6:38 - 6:44

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 2 роки тому +1

    Kramer had those aluminium necks with tuning fork shaped headstocks

  • @ak47dragunov
    @ak47dragunov 2 роки тому +24

    Love when Pete reminds us that he can shred like an absolute beast if the mood strikes him

    • @xferme
      @xferme 2 роки тому +1

      The dude can do anything. Legend

    • @danlamarsky1537
      @danlamarsky1537 2 роки тому

      @Mark Seymour 10 seconds in he shreds better than you

  • @jeffadams2789
    @jeffadams2789 2 роки тому +1

    You mates sokks

  • @theariesexperiment4642
    @theariesexperiment4642 2 роки тому +1

    I've heard that the Korean factory that builds tons of import models for huge brand names have raised their operating costs quite a bit and has got those brands sourcing the Chinese companies. If anyone can verify please do. These would be a great modding platform.

  • @joek81981
    @joek81981 2 роки тому +1

    The shape dates back to the famous legal battle.
    Legend has that Mr. Kramer saw a lawsuit from Fender coming down the pipeline, and pre-emptively sued himself over the trademark "Strat" shape.
    They made a movie about it in like 1979. Dustin Hoffman as Gary Kramer, Meryl Streep as Leo Fender. Kinda slow. Not that much guitar talk in it, really. Kramer vs Kramer, check it out!

  • @theariesexperiment4642
    @theariesexperiment4642 2 роки тому +1

    I'm assuming the early Pacers on Reverb are about to go up considerably now.

  • @contactusece7769
    @contactusece7769 4 місяці тому

    Shape looks great why copy strat 💯 so it’s different love it

  • @michaelmetal71
    @michaelmetal71 2 роки тому +1

    it’s nice that Kramer offers this model left handed and in 3 different colors they need to add at least 2 more models in lefty like a Barretta and the night V,i might have bought this one if it came out sooner but i all ready got the schecter nick johnston hss because of the last video Andertons did

  • @yourunclesmonkey
    @yourunclesmonkey 2 роки тому +2

    22 frets

  • @toneleudy
    @toneleudy 11 місяців тому

    Shape reminds me a bit like my joe satch guitar

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing 2 роки тому +6

    Andertons should offer a proper set up of this guitar. I am not suggesting a free one but I would imagine many, many buyers would gladly pay for one. No one wants to get a guitar only to be without for often weeks waiting to get it back from a tech.

    • @PaulCooksStuff
      @PaulCooksStuff 2 роки тому

      They do, though it's buried in the website smallprint and kinda by exception and you have to contact them before you order.
      There's a "free" setup check, presumably to manufacturers spec.
      There's a paid "custom setup" presumably if you want personalised action heights etc.
      It would be simpler to just offer two checkboxes on the web order form.

  • @JohnSmith-vb9ul
    @JohnSmith-vb9ul 2 роки тому

    No offense...But where's Rob when you need him?

  • @emmanuelleroy2915
    @emmanuelleroy2915 2 роки тому

    Man I like the guy with the lavender guitar attitude…. The one with the blue guitar was shooting it down from the gate to the end….Damn….. I already got a Les Paul but I wanted a guitar with a Floyd Rose but heard a lot of bad reviews with some of the Brand name guitars with Floyd Rose system….. I wanted a Fender but hearing they got sued for over pricing and I didn’t want to shell out so much money for some made in Indonesia BS with crappy Pickups and Specs and to pay over a grand and only get a gig bag is disrespectful in my opinion…. So I’m going with Kramer because it’s ran by Gibson so I trust their products more than other brands out there…… I’m jut going to swap pick ups with Seymour Duncan’s Alinco 8’s and Floyd Rose original with Grover Locks….

  • @richjones54
    @richjones54 2 роки тому

    listening to Lee talk just put me off buying one :(

  • @redcomn
    @redcomn 2 роки тому +1

    Kinda wish i have one of those esp made early kramer

  • @waylong25
    @waylong25 2 роки тому

    I bought one of the Radio Blue ones 3 whole days after these new colors released, and I've had to replace pretty much everything other than the pickups and the fretwork was junk. Lol

  • @69spiros
    @69spiros 2 роки тому +1

    Ritchie Sambora approved!!!!!

  • @jasondeli
    @jasondeli 2 роки тому

    I appreciate the videos, but they are becoming stale with just Lee and Pete. I give it to Pete. he tries to change up his style, but with Lee, you know it's just the same blues progression. What happened to Rebea to break it up?

  • @dtaboso
    @dtaboso 2 роки тому

    It is made china or indonesia?

  • @Icepacalapse
    @Icepacalapse Рік тому

    Perfect for someone who has the skills to polish this gem. Many have a shim in the neck which requires a sky high tremolo setting.
    Took out the shim and it was lots better. I went further and installed a .5 degree wooden shim which brought the tremolo down further to where you can "deck" it.
    Neck a little sharp but I really got it because the pickups are further apart than a 24 fret guitar which means I can run a sustainiac at higher levels before feedback between pickup and transducer occurs.

  • @SnuggleBear1970
    @SnuggleBear1970 2 роки тому +1

    I want a KRAMER!

  • @Witcher58
    @Witcher58 2 роки тому +1

    I'm wondering how much these models weight, since the original Pacers were pretty heavy

    • @matt2915
      @matt2915 2 роки тому +2

      It's an alder body and I have seen some reviews that say these are fairly light.

    • @spaceavenger54
      @spaceavenger54 Рік тому +1

      My pacer vintage ,which has a maple body is a super heavy beast,lol

  • @spaceavenger54
    @spaceavenger54 Рік тому

    Can anyone tell me the difference or feel I would notice going from a pacer vintage to this? The vintage has a 14 radius fingerboard not 12 like these. I'm not a huge fan of those Floyd Rose specials,after a few months,or sooner,you have to block them because the edges or posts wear and they just don't return to zero any longer,not to mention the softer alloy strips easier and has worse tone in my opinion. But a better floyd is gonna drive the price up further. Also, someone on here said they aren't floating,that's not entirely true,they aren't recessed but mine still floats enough to do the Brad gillis type thing.

    • @asnark7115
      @asnark7115 Рік тому

      You can probably get better metal replacement saddles and leave the rest of it alone?

    • @kylezakk
      @kylezakk 10 місяців тому

      Most people just replace the saddles. The FR special has a solid steel baseplate like an original Floyd. I'd also recommend getting a OFR nut because its more solid than a FR special nut.

  • @workingorder2189
    @workingorder2189 2 роки тому

    I think you met Henry Vaccaro at Denny's: owner of Kramer in the 80s.

  • @williamdon3442
    @williamdon3442 Рік тому

    I always wondered that too. What Pete was talking about it being squeezed. I thought it looked like a tear drop

  • @theariesexperiment4642
    @theariesexperiment4642 2 роки тому

    If they'd went full sparkle with huge metalflakes like Gretsch,....I'd probably bought all 3.

  • @TheMTGHero
    @TheMTGHero 2 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a noise gate shoot out!

  • @andreferraz8110
    @andreferraz8110 2 роки тому

    If you close your eyes, you can hear Tom Hanks with a british accent.

  • @richiebohr5421
    @richiebohr5421 2 роки тому

    Could never do that body shape. Nostalgic yes, me own one? No!

  • @TH-ql8gg
    @TH-ql8gg 2 роки тому

    Wow, a very honest review from the captain. Not recommended then....

  • @tatojames6204
    @tatojames6204 2 роки тому +1

    🐥

  • @FullMataCorrida
    @FullMataCorrida 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic colors!

  • @phenixreturns
    @phenixreturns 2 роки тому

    Conclusion : a good guitar for the price lolll

  • @johnjgibson6807
    @johnjgibson6807 2 роки тому

    And That’s How it’s Broke In 👍👍🎶🎶🎸

  • @kiltedarcher574
    @kiltedarcher574 2 роки тому

    What's the fender blackface amp behind Pete? 🤔

  • @voltrexstriker2618
    @voltrexstriker2618 2 роки тому

    Y they don't email back

  • @sc0or
    @sc0or 2 роки тому

    1:15 that was remarkable. That's all we have to know about the machine on this model

  • @jonhornbeck4324
    @jonhornbeck4324 2 роки тому

    Reminds me of my mid 80's Kramer Focus 2000.

  • @Alfredo78666
    @Alfredo78666 2 роки тому

    Kreimaaaa! It feels flaaaata!

  • @orcaflotta7867
    @orcaflotta7867 2 роки тому

    How do I know these were made by Cortech?

  • @jacobbaranowski
    @jacobbaranowski 2 роки тому

    Where is Rob Charmin 😕?

  • @Musicology1975
    @Musicology1975 2 роки тому

    Purple is sexy🎸💃🍷💜

  • @stephenwallace2423
    @stephenwallace2423 2 роки тому

    22 frets, surely?

  • @JesseLeeKing
    @JesseLeeKing 2 роки тому

    Aww a pic of lil Dani P

  • @donkarnage6032
    @donkarnage6032 2 роки тому +2

    Sounds like whomever setup the guitars at the factory simply weren't doing a proper job stretching the strings because that's all that Lee/Pete were doing when wiggling the bar up and down. It doesn't necessarily need some special setup. Just someone who knows how to string a Floyd Rose which on these guitars that don't have floating tremolos is super easy to do. I've had cheap and expensive Floyd Roses'. As long as you stretch the strings correctly it stays in tune just fine.

  • @SnuggleBear1970
    @SnuggleBear1970 2 роки тому

    80s REVIVAL

  • @brianwagoner8899
    @brianwagoner8899 2 роки тому +3

    I would love to see a Captain Meets Henning Pauly. No idea why that occured to me while watching this video, but who else feels the same?

    • @desvonbladet
      @desvonbladet 2 роки тому +1

      Captain Anderton of Anderton's meets noted Thomann associate Henning Pauly? Somehow I don't think it's all that likely

  • @moorecreativ
    @moorecreativ 2 роки тому +3

    It’s good to see these color options after those awful finishes they released last year. Really dig the white pickups too

  • @SomeKindOfMadman
    @SomeKindOfMadman 2 роки тому

    Pete’s a legend

  • @1972Georges
    @1972Georges 2 роки тому

    guess more a toy then anything else...

  • @itzibitzi7611
    @itzibitzi7611 2 роки тому

    No coil split? Would have been a nice tonal option there.....

    • @dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519
      @dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519 2 роки тому +2

      You get a guitar with a full Floyd rose system for $339. Maybe be a little more thankful that you get what you do for the price

    • @itzibitzi7611
      @itzibitzi7611 2 роки тому

      @@dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519 just asking, because I've got a Harley Benton CST24 in Emerald Green with coil split for 240€ ;-) Tremolo works well and stable, but afforded some work to do so, overall a very nice "entry level" guitar.

  • @davidyoung8875
    @davidyoung8875 2 роки тому +1

    The Floyd Rose is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT GUITAR INNOVATION EVER!!!

  • @jeffadams2789
    @jeffadams2789 2 роки тому +1

    What the hell does any of your options matter none just like england all the Great guitar players are american.ol chump .

  • @raysouza6535
    @raysouza6535 2 роки тому +1

    Back in the 80s I had an Emerald Green Kramer Pacer that I nicknamed my "Fly's Ass Green" guitar, the nickname stuck and to this day my friends still refer to it as my Fly's Ass Green guitar, it was my first serious guitar and I played that thing into the ground...I had a lot of fun with it, if Kramer ever releases one in Fly's Ass Green I'll buy it just for the nostalgia :-P

  • @jmabs5096
    @jmabs5096 2 роки тому +1

    Wish Kramer would re-release actual 80s popular models with traditional colors... Also not a fan of the rounded edges looks like a overweight guitar. Don't think these will sell too well
    That first pot is WAY to close to the bridge humbugger as Pete would say... Blah ugly guitars

  • @2216sammy
    @2216sammy 2 роки тому

    The headstock painted the same color as the body screams department store quality . On another note , I would LOVE to hear your opinions on the $699.00 Baretta vintage . I'm convinced it has the same internals and cheap hardware as the $179.00 Baretta Classic . If I'm buying a Kramer it's mandatory that it comes with a longer banana style headstock, 84 specs.
    The classic and vintage have the design right but the length is off , too short .

  • @Mark_Ocain
    @Mark_Ocain 2 роки тому

    Reasonable value for money here...they seem to sound pretty good. You can't expect custom shop quality for this kind of money but yeah these are quite respectable. I'm not a Floyd Rose fan, too fiddly for me but for someone who is a devotee, these do the job well.

  • @xai1971
    @xai1971 2 роки тому

    All the 80s guys have big belly's now. That's what the offset is for.

  • @villetopi4001
    @villetopi4001 2 роки тому

    i really get it what pete is going for with the squished bodyshape... they look a bit wonky and maybe chinese-copied strats...

  • @xferme
    @xferme 2 роки тому

    Good in you Lee for not recommending it to the complete novice. Classy as always.

  • @matt6288joyce
    @matt6288joyce 2 роки тому

    I rarely hate guitars but this is one of them…

  • @mikeg.9238
    @mikeg.9238 2 роки тому +1

    Glad to see you guys are doing some more metal shredding intro's!🤘The big guns for guitars back in the 80's were Kramer , Charvel , Ibanez and Jackson....

  • @robm709
    @robm709 2 роки тому

    little guy on the right is kinda annoying, they should have gotten someone who knows how to play hard rock & they said 2 times its got 21 frets, when it has 22

  • @soundpainter2590
    @soundpainter2590 2 роки тому +1

    80' "Hair Metal" IS The reason ((Why)) kids started listening to Hip hop, Boy bands, ect. Go ahead... YOU listen to Poison & Warrant, ( Under House Arrest ) for 2 years !!! Without attempting suicide... Seriously !! Besides that, Love your channel & store !

    • @dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519
      @dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519 2 роки тому +1

      Man. You do not know how to comment.

    • @gimmee99
      @gimmee99 2 роки тому +4

      May want to go watch Rick Beato channel a bit for a history of the early 90s. The excess of hair metal led to "Grunge" where it was fashionable to be depressed and agnst ridden all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to decide which genre led to more suicides.

    • @soundpainter2590
      @soundpainter2590 2 роки тому

      @@gimmee99 "Beato"... HILLARIOUS ! ! I dont care if he has 12 BILLION "Subs" There is a reason for the expression, " Those who CAN, DO. Those who Can't Teach" Watch the vid's With Phil X. Dick ( The nickname for Richard) is Beyond Blown away !! & Practically speachless. Have you spent most of your life, Writing & Performing ORIGINAL Music... ( & Paid well for it ) ?? & LIVED what I mentioned, as it HAPPENED ? Just being REAL. Apparently you dont like people expressing their journey through REALITY ? It's one of many ways to LEARN. Chill.. We are in difficult times for Performing Musicians. ( & Everyone ) Hang in there...

    • @dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519
      @dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519 2 роки тому +2

      @@soundpainter2590 what the hell is your punctuation? You literally type like a 5-year-old who learned how to write from clickbait Minecraft video titles

    • @soundpainter2590
      @soundpainter2590 2 роки тому +1

      @@projectgoatse Wow... Amazingly Original.... Soo... You believe EVERYONE is in some way, A close minded POS, Because of what year they were born. (( That would include Yourself )) Yeah, That's brilliant. F N Hillarious !!

  • @bullshitdetective1
    @bullshitdetective1 2 роки тому

    you are both nuts!!!