Our new £110,000 supercars! | Porsche 911 GT3 vs Mercedes AMG GTR | Supercar Driver
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- Опубліковано 1 вер 2023
- We've finally upgraded our lead car fleet with TWO new additions after 6 years running sports cars to lead supercar tours! In this episode, we share not only our driving impressions with you, but how and why we chose these two cars.
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GT3
The AMG GTR is completely underrated and Mercedes won’t make another like it. New one is front engine instead of front mid. No rear transaxle, weight balance isn’t anymore 47-53 but the reverse. No dry sump. 9 speed instead of the 7.
Rip to the legend Gen 1.
Agreed! They got it SO right! Never be rivalled 💥
The true Gen 1 and was the AMG SLR done with McLaren. That was too bespoke/expensive and completely wrong so they followed it up with the AMG SLS. Gullwing doors and the greatest NA V8. Still too exotic? Let’s do the AMG GT. Lose the gullwing doors put in a smaller turbo V8. Now? The new AMG GT shares the same platform as lesser Mercs. At this rate, AMG will use the A class with a turbo four and call it the GTLK
Of course the new AMG GT has dry sump lubrication. Stop claiming bullshit, dude! Also its weight distribution will be perfect for driving with an AWD system. It will look the old one like crap. You have no fucking clue, dude!
Plus it looks so good, and you barely see any around compared to Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren
The new one looks way better IMO and the jury is still out on performance.
The best way to describe the amg gt r is brutal. You will literally feel everything. A drive to the local store will make feel like you were in a f1 race
I've done 21K miles in my GT R and loved every minute of them. Full of character and event, what a weekend toy and track day car should be all about.
AMG GTR. The only car I'd probably forsake a 911 for. So sick.
I was lucky enough to run into the lads whilst they were filming this one and when Jonty offered me a quick ride in the Merc I jumped at the opportunity. Mega bit of kit! Sadly my Focus ST isn't eligible for SCD membership but perhaps one day I'll have a suitable motor. Incredible stretch of road too!!
Hello again 👋
I purchased my GTR on the way to getting my GT3. It put me back a couple of years, but I just couldn't not get the GTR, it was just that good. Well I finally picked up my GT3 .2 manual to compliment and finalize the journey. I couldn't agree more with your observations and am extremely blessed to have both in my stable! I've finally scratched the itch!
Lovely video, as always! Congrats on both new cars! 😎
I prefer the "old" proportions and interior of this AMG GT generation over the new one...and I obviously love that this GT R is A LOT lighter than the new gen.
Not a lot to say about the GT3. Even as a manual fanboy, that thing is epic.
I totally agree! Thank you 🙏
Amg Gtr is a brute Gt3 is beauty👍🖖
GTR is both
"Beauty and the beast"?
In this case give me beauty
Definitely both 🙌
Amg is brutal but porsche is raw👌
Congrats on the new cars, that GT3 spec is a rare find
The spec we never thought we’d find 😂
@@scd it’s as if the previous owners were actual drivers and not poseurs! Ceramic brakes, comfort seats and some goodies are just what the doctor ordered to make a road trip truly enjoyable.
The AMG GTR is fast, but the 991.1 GT3 I love
Mega!! You guys really deserve it. So great watching the club grow over the years!
Thank you dude 👍👍
I have a 991.2 GT3 and just sold my SF90 spider so I can go back to an AMG GTR (I sold my green one a few years back). I’ll have the same as you lads in a few months. The AMG is all about theatre btw, especially in the Matt green. Had so many strangers chat about that car to me. Shame about the visibility though, not as good as the GT3 and way harder around a city. Double shame I’m in Sydney and not in Europe, love to drive some of those roads with you guys!!
Agree! The Merc is a Supercar in every sense of the word! Still such a lot of car for the money too. Enjoy buddy
What reason led you to sold that insane Ferrari?
we would now be twins!
🙋♂️ Yeah I’m one of those guys who asked Matt why you didn’t have a Supercar! 😂 Great choice guys!
Ha thank you 🙏
I couldn’t think of two better cars for the task at hand!
Fantastic choices fellas. Also, perfect specs with the CC’s & comfort seats.
Looking forward to seeing more content with the GT3 & GTR leading the pack 💨
Let me know if you plan to be out in the South of France next summer. I’d love to join.
Harrison
Thank you 🙏 Of course! We’re in Monaco next weekend with these two and 20 other cars!
They have been compared many times before
One of the best shot videos. Loved every bit of it. 🎉
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!
You say 'they're both winners', but you were far more complimentary of the GT3
These two are just perfectly matched beauties. GT3 bit more sharp, more focused GTR more brutal but by no means unsophisticated. I think on numerous tracks the GTR is actually quicker, GT3 more engaging more motorsport, but a perfect match up.
Well summarised 🙌 you clearly know them both
Amazing episode, congratulations, just placing this reminder to myself that I will work towards having a chance to be part of one of your events during next three years :)
Thank you 🙏 and you best make that dream a reality
Nice video. Cool to see James Bond himself (Daniel Craig) driving the GTR!
Yorkshire Bond 😂
Another great video guys, thank you. Which roads were you driving? Great scenery and footage
North Wales 👀🤙
Great video. Job well done chaps. Two takeaways from this for me..I want a GT3 and I need to get back on those Welsh roads asap.
😂 yes you do 🤙
I love both👌i also have the gt3 for almost 2 years with PCCB and comfort seats, awesome car 😊
Having owned at least 1 gt pcar in the stable for the past 15 years, i just sold my 991gt3rs in uv and on the hunt for a amg gtr to switch it up, i hope i dont regret it
Congratulations, 2 epic leaders 🎉
Thank you 🙏
Mercedes is better
Excellent choice had exact same spec in sapphire blue colour myself but swopped in the end for the holy grail 991 GT3 RS in lava orange..well in my world
Good choice! That’s our dream but in UV
Really great choices.
You know it 🙌🙌
Wonderful video 👏👏👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Interesting video chaps. I'm currently working on a shortlist of 991 turbo, AMG GTR and MC20 to replace my wonderful and already missed Ferrari FF. Nice to see a decent AMG comparison and it's maybe helping me to lean that way, especially as values have been hit a little and £90-95k will get a similar car to yours with ceramics etc.
Good luck with your search! GTR feels the most special
The criticism was grounded on that 3.8's catastrophic failures, and next year (2024) the 10-year warranty on the engine (though replaced) will be over. It's not fair to talk about the 991.1 GT3 without mentioning that "issue". BTW I own a GT Porsche so I'm far from being a hater. Cheers from Italy
This ☝️
True but they have 10 year or 100k mile warranty and for us, this is enough peace of mind.
@@scd they had in 2014... It's a ticking bomb requiring the Approved program coverage to be in place forever
Thats why I say the Mercedes Benz is better, its handbuilt engine
Great choices
Thank you 🙏
Absolutely stunning I love the 991.1 in gt3 and turbo s .1 generations for the win 😜
Couldn’t agree more 💥 we have 997.1 GT3
Neat, maybe I take a viper fifth gen but the merc sits good with me, 911 good car too
Great video! GT3 please 🙏
Thank you 🙏 Good choice 👌
The fact that the gtr is soo good and you cant decides says alot about the car..
How much does an extended warranty on the GT3 cost? A bit worried about the engine myself but do really want to pick one up in 2024
I'm starting to believe that the 911 GT3 The Greatest Sports Car Ever Made.
It pretty much ticks all the boxes...
Price - Performance - Sound - Usability - Affordability (maintenance/Insurance/fuel) - Resale - Parts - Daily Driving - Track Driving - Road Tripping.
I usually can't stand Porsche people 0_o but I can't argue with them.
@SCD - what JCR setup did they put on?
congraz guys and awesome cars; I do have to make two mentions, as an enthusiast driver and as a person who drove for one week(almost) in the Alps(and who will go back in late spring '24 for another week of driving).
One(the first), even at 5 or 6 in the morning.. or a 7 or 8 in the evening, almost no pass can be driven on hard enough and fast enough in order for a sports car to require carbon ceramic brakes; 2ndly, by the same lane of thinking, alpine passes in.. , well, the Alps, are for enjoyment and not for the last 0.1 around a particular corner or the other so, that argument fails rapidly and the engagement and involvement argument picks up the pace when we talk about a manual gt3. Sure, maybe the dsg only gen. 1 was the obvious choice as it is the less regarded one from the bunch and, thus, slightly cheaper(as "cheap" as a 100k car can be) but, for roadtrips in the Alps in June or late September(early October), a manual is more than appropriate and much more fun. Just because the older gentlemen that go in tours with you(or those a little inexperienced at driving fast), prefer a dsg for its easyness in driving(especially when left to do its own thing(gear changes), that does not mean that for a real enthusiast and an enthusiast at driving, something better can be found, because it can't.. as nothing beats a good manual in a proper car, at proper driving.
cheers!
GTR❤
As a Porsche Targa (2015) driver this is important work as I am considering upgrading/downgrading (?) to a Mercedes AMG GT (Circa 2015) with the only difference being I don't drive like a lunatic
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Cracking choice of cars and the same 2 cars I was torn between after selling James the M600, but the manual box on the GT3 swung it for me.
I look forward to meeting them on an event soon 👍
Good choice! Thanks Lee 🙌
Did you guys consider an R8? Interesting to hear your views as Im currently in same spec 991 GT3 and weighing up a GTR or R8 to swap it for...
Please bring us more videos
Ok 👌
2 of my favorite cars of all time. ❤❤❤ 🏎🔥💨💨💨🏎🔥💨💨💨💨
Amazing choices! Can you share what other contenders were on your list besides the two winners?
Yes! 650S, new shape Vantage, 991 Turbo S, R8 V10 plus
@@scd What are the main reasons these fantastic cars are opted out? Reliability? Or driving thrill?
I’ll take both
Great choice…😎😎
Thanks 😁
Beauty and the beast
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Amg gtr my take all day❤
Great video, can you give us a steer on the monthly’s with £30k deposit?
Well, we opted for big deposit and interest only as it works well for a business. Monthlies were a bit over £500 at the time, but rates have increased since
So the math is something like:
Cost 110k
Deposit 30k
=> loan = 80k
Interest only at 500 per month = 6k per year
So interest rate is 6k/80k = 7.5%
As you said, probably a bit more now…
Well done on both cars by the way, sometimes some of the “older generations” are still very very good.
Sledgehammer vs scalpel…amazing machines
Luck you don’t have to choose between them because I absolutely love both, I think if I had to choose I would go Porsche but it’s so close
Very touch choice!
People talk about Manual or Stick Shift cars a lot, nothing shifts as quick as a good Dual Clutch Gearbox
Something about the way it bangs through gears.
Isn’t the 991.1 GT3 also one of the most unreliable engines? Looking online there are several for sale with replacement engines.
Ours had the replaced engine and they’re pretty solid by all accounts?
Some have been replaced 4 times over.
For road use 100k i would take a cayman new, full optional
I love AMG and the GTR! No Porsche for me!
Well I'd take the GT-R
Okkk 🫣
JCR 😍🔥🔥🔥
Oh yes 👏
I have 5 driver’s supercars in the 210-350k range and I only have 120-140k budget left for 1 car that’s high performance and holds good value, while providing a diff driving experience. These two are def one of the top contenders, however with the engine issue and already having a 3rs eliminates the gt3 right away for me. Def interested in the gtr (a bit concerned with its visibility), other cars in consideration in the same price range would be the new nsx 599, FF, 650s/570s (excluded all the 5.0 and 5.2 v10s coz of redunadancy). This price segment is very interesting, it’s full of driver’s, high perf modern cars that havent or have a slim chance of ever reaching a level of significance or getting picked up as collectors one day. Which one do u think has a better chance?
i think the mclaren gt is a good pick, im not sure about it holding value but its a better pick in my opinion than the 570s or 650s, its newer and it sounds good like the 650s, that or tge 458 would be my picks for that price range
GTR is unlike anything in its price bracket. Punches well above its weight! A true giant killer. Don’t underestimate or overlook it
Or what he says…. Ferrari 458 🤴
Out of interest, which cars do you own besides a GT3 RS?
Where did you get a GT3 for $110k
Man I love the way my amg gt r looks but it's such a brute to drive around the suburbs. It's too powerful and only feels light if you are speeding. Got a 2nd car bmw m340i as my daily. But...the amg gt is the best looking car on the planet
Where is this this scenery? Anyone knows where they shot this?
North Wales 🫣
Absolutely stunning location this, beautiful cars, beautiful scenery, keep it going lads!@@scd
A 1/2 mile from my house .....😂
Comfort seats in a GT car is the way to go
True! Especially if touring in it
They're not the comfort seats, they're the performance ones.. The comfort seats are from the SLK and ugly
GT3 is a pure perfection
It is!
honestly though, a v8 biturbo vs a flat 6 na? if this is comparison on numbers? how advanced is the engineering in that flat six cmon
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Theyre both winners
*whispers*: But the Porsche is the winner
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No GT3 needs ceramic brakes to avoid vaiding
Agreed, I'd have thought a set of ds3000s would do the trick.
True, but it’s just that extra piece of mind 🥵
@scd to be fair, we are saying no GT3 needs ceramic brakes, but then nobody NEEDS a GT3. Doesn't stop us all wanting one 🤣 lovely motor and a lovely colour too! I hope she serves you well!
GTR is a contender for me. But believe I want even more hardcore/ uncomfortable/ stupid = Mk1 Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera. I owned a normal AMG GT ( no S, C or R). That car was a bit boring in a strange way. Probably due to the doubleclutch gearbox. Do you have a comment?
Well, I ended up with a yellow GTR. And don`t regret it. It is awesome.
100k for these cars? damn these cars are so Cheap in the UK.
Johnty
Amg gtr is a gt3 with muscle car soul
True story 👍
Mercedes Benz anyday over VW its better
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Germans do it the best 🇩🇪
They sure do 🙌
I love the content but I hate your camera quality!!!!!
Which bit are you referring to?
@scd the ones inside the car are really pixley, but the video as a whole looks like it was shot on an iPhone 3 camera!
Best turn on your 4k 🙄😂
Super cars are worth $250k-$1M those are high end sports cars
They’re supercars to us! We’ve been running sports cars previously like Exige V6, Cayman R etc
Which one is more overpriced?
You tell us! 😂
Neither of those are super cars
Then what is?
Have you ever driven a Porsche GT product? (On the road, not a red letter day..)
@@dotcomdudee yes, the cayenne gt I drove was also not a super car.
Def are. One is a rwd beast and the other is a front mid engine monster.
@@undergroundoutlaw411 they're great sports cars, top of their class.
That’s an old gt3 m. C’mon man
Ha we don’t have £140k 🤕
You really lost points here. If you re pushing on downhill you really have to riconsider your driving... publics roads are not tracks... carbonbrakes are for tracks use, not road. And the cost of maintenance is enormous. So your "brain/head/sensible" argument is complitely pointless... you will pay a fortune to replace those brakes. Steel is way better for roads use.
Hear you paddy, all valid points. We likely won’t keep them long enough to replace them. Having had cars in the past without them we felt they were a ‘must have’ for they added peace of mind 👍
@@scd sure that GT3 deserves to in the garage, same for the amg. I was just surprised about the text you wrote.
Mercedes🤮👎
Not even in the same level..not even..gtr probably the best looking car right now..inside is 50 year in front of gt3..torque of merc is on next 2 levels..and if you like luxury and crazy pull merc walk alone vs those 2
Amg LOLOL just circus for your shackles.