I ran Bridgestone on my 2008 Goldwing for years. I couldn’t get much mileage out of them and didn’t care for the feel. I finally tried Dunlop Elite 4 this last tire change. We ride two up pulling a Bushtec trailer and I’ve put just over 5,000 miles on them. I really like them. I’ve been riding since 1970, starting when I was 15. Many years on police motorcycles and have years of experience as a police motorcycle instructor. I think it’s best to go with what suits us as individual riders. What tires feel good to one guy might not to another. Like the old saying, “Go with what you know.” Great video, Mike! Thanks for sharing.
I have a Cross Country Tourer and have put 66k on this bike. But have logged many more on previous bikes. But I've used a lot of Dunlop 3's and Stones. Riding 2 up, cross country with a big load the stones are way better. The stones are better on grooved pavement, wet pavement, and track well through its treadlife. Under these load conditions, the Dunlop about 1/2-3/4 through their tread life will cup and have belts slip. Had bad back-to-back experiences with Dunlop on my Vulcan 2k(50K miles) and Victory XCT(66k miles). The Bridgestone's always performed flawlessly throughout their entire tread life. I think a big guy, riding 2 up in hot weather going cross country. With this weight, you should avoid the Dunlop's like the plague.
On my 2018 Goldwing DCT Tour, the bike came with Bridgestone G852 front and G853 rear tires (Honda OEM). I then replaced them with Dunlap D423 tires both front and rear. The D423 are also Honda OEM specifications. I found the same sensation of the Dunlap tires washing out a little bit in the corner during wet weather. I liked the grip of the Bridgestone much better. I will be replacing the Dunlaps when they wear out returning to the Bridgestones. As far as mileage, I replace my tires when they get close to the wear marks. I do not try to save money on tires. My safety is number one, no compromise. I want to count on my tires performing properly in all conditions including emergency situations and be able to trust them.
I wore out 2 Bridgestones set on the gl1800 then went to Dunlop E4 on the rear and have just put the Battleaxe BT45 on the front. This will be my setup from now on, i am very happy with my tires now. And Squash makes me barf !!
Had Bristones as factory O.E. set ups in the 80's on new cruisers . Put Bridgestones on GL1200's in 2003 . They were all great for how i rode back then. Put an E3 front on a GL1500 in 2006 and hated it because it would never bite on curves or on ramps on clezn dry pavement . Just this year put a matched set of E4's on my GL1500 ..... loved the bite on the pavemeent . However , at only 300 mi the front developed a buzz in the handle bars. Checked bearings , calipers and pads , the forks had new progressives pro installed at the same time as the pro mounted tires. Discovered a slight "inverted bump"" in the tread on the left half. Did some research and found a common issue with this occurance. Parked the bike and the next sunday took it out for an approx 200 mi ride. On curves it felt like the bike was not following the line i was riding. Checked the rear this time and it has a 5/16 or more hop in the tread about 1/5 around the circumference of the tire . Sheesh . Checked both beads for mismounts and they both appear to be mounted correctly. Tomorrow monday i am dropping it off and they are going to address the tires with their Dunlop rep when the individual comes in over the next month. In the interim i am not going to take any chances being away from home on a Sunday standed or worse. So it's just as well if its not accessible to use I'm obviously not going to get a refund, so I'll be keeping an eye on them if i get warranty replacements. If they don't approve new tires undr warranty , I'll be switching to the newer Bridgestone Exedra MAX model . I've heard slippery stories about the BT models ( not that that line is meant for a Wing ) but often you would naturally have to assume that it would be close in characteristics to most models in the same brand . I like curves and round-a-bouts , so i want some tire bite . Side note - Eventhough the E4 is made in the USA , Dunlop - Goodyear is now owned by a chinese rubber co. I can't help think that ALL these E4 left side of the tire issues are all a result of the same deficiency at the manufacturing level. There is something wrong somewhere .... why would ALL these left side tire issues with the E4 be so plentiful. For anyone that says they seem to slide out....or not follow their intended line , i firmly believe they are experiencing the same E4 issue i literally just started having . When i had my first 4 rides on the new E4 tires they were Awesome.... but quicky went down hill ... fast . There is a manufacturing issue OR a engineering / design issue. Othrwise , the E4 would be , i think a supreme tire to beat . ... but not currently ..... and its costing me money . .
Bridgestones all the way. When I bought my 06 Wing it had Dunlop E3's on it and I couldn't wait to get them off and put the Bridgestones on. Better grip, better life. I just wish Michelin made a set for the Wing, I run Commander II's on my Harley.
I've had many motorcycles, various brands of tires, and have ridden tons of miles. what was interesting is the Bridgestones performed well regardless of which bike I rode. Fasteddie...2018 Gold Wing 6 speed..🤩
My dad was born by little rock, Arkansas. Then father passed away, mom had kids walk across America too California. I've never gotten 20,000 miles out of motorcycle tire! I used Dunlop on Harley then changed out too Bridgestone! I'm feeling the same about motorcycle tires, I'm going dark side next time on tires on Gold wing!
I’m also running Shinkos after 10,000 on the original Dunlops. Front tires cupped. Rear wore flat. Noisy as hell. Shinko front and rear for what it cost for one Dunlop rear. Got good reviews. Engineered in Japan, manufactured in South Korea. Been in business since 1946. Found a Podcast of an interview between Motorcycle Men and an Exec from Shinko. Informative. They’ve done everything I’ve asked them to do so far except no rain yet. Hope I get at least the same mileage as the Dunlops.
I drove a Honda GW 1800 and had a gray head more than once. When I got air out of the wheel. I had my wife and luggage with me. I've been to Dunlop. As long as there is air in it everything is ok! Without air, it's a deflated condom! I've gone to the dark side runflat wounds and have done over 120,000 miles. There were punctures and cuts on the wheels, but the motorcycle does not fall!!! Damn manufacturers, where are your moto wheels with ranflat!!??
I just replaced (from the factory) Bridgestone tires for Shinko tires on my 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour after 10500 miles. The Shinko tires cost less than Bridgestone and Dunlap tires but perform just as well on the road!
Bridgestones for me, please. I’ve never run Dunlop tire on the Wing, but on my Shadow, I couldn’t wait to get them off of it! Good to hear a comparison from someone who has run both tires.
Been winging it several years and sold my older 2006 and upgraded to the 2018 DCT a couple years ago... I've ran several different model tires... Dunlops, Bridgestones, Avon and Metzlers.... and have always bounced back and forth to Dunlop or Bridgestones.... The new bike came with Bridgestones and I've gotten a little over 11k on them and wearing good... but started to cup around 9-10k which I thought was pretty good. Time to replace... although I could get more mileage out of them... I"m not one to push it. Its time for a new set of sneakers.... Ordered from Wingstuff this morning and free delivery... yee haa... :) Take care all and ride safe... Thanks for the video Mike ! ! !
Great input Thank You! One thing I had to admit about my riding is position. Left lane inside most of the time. That puts me on the left high side of the groove. As an over the road trucker, I see the road ruts and recognize when I get out of the groove. Southern roads have more crown for rain and water shedding, but all roads develop low spots from heavy trucks and traffic patterns. This has effected my tire wear on my bikes. Around 7,000 miles I notice it more but still fail to ride the center of the groove. Just food for thought. Road conditions determine as much wear on tires as does the compound of the tires. Asphalt and concrete up north are denser and less likely to soften in the warm summer where heat melts off tread to. Good luck! Hoka Hey
Thanks for the input Driver! I rarely ride center. Usually left 3rd 1st choice especially if in Right lane. Feel like it gives me more of on “out” should a hazard occur. Appreciate you truckers! I am a UPSer, but only local deliveries! Much respect
I only ran Bridgestone tires on my previous motorcycle. They were quite and a got good mileage from them. They also performed well in wet conditions. My 2009 Goldwing came with Dunlop Elites. I have not seen any cupping issues yet but they are a lot noisier than the Bridgestones.
I have an 18 Goldwing and the bike came with Dunlops. I did not like the Dunlops and only got 9k mileage on them. I switched to Bridgestones and like them better. When I had big touring Harley's I would run MIchelin Commander II's on them and routinely got over 15k on them riding aggressively.
I liked the Dunlops on my 1200 but not on the '05 1800. After going through 2 pairs in a season each, I switched to Stones at the urging of a friend. What a difference! I'll never go back to Dunlop, at least on this bike. I have a much greater sense of security on the road. Good job.
I bought a 2009 GW that has Dunlop Elite 4 on it. They had very little miles on them and I've put 7000 miles on them so far but my riding season is close to or at it's end for this year with snow in the forecast. Because of the possible tire shortage I decided I would order a set so when the Dunlops are done I know I will have the Bridgestones to put on. Your review is one that helped me decide to give them a try. Thanks for the review.
Hey Mike, we have ran both. Usually Dunlops when we have a long distance trip, because we have gotten more miles. We run Bridgestone when home and short trips inside of three weeks. I like the feel of Bridgestones better, they are softer and grip better than Dunlops. The most miles we have ridden on Dunlops were 15,000. We had a 5000 on them prior to leaving and changed tires while on the road. We average about 9 -12k on both brands, depending on how aggressive we ride.
MM. I have Shinko E705 on my GW Excellent traction and mileage. $260 the pair. Give them a try. Got 12K miles on the rear, two up and loaded. The front goes well over 15 K.
"Motorman" from "Ride like a pro" swears by them. He drives Harley's and said the Shinko's last him the longest. I was going to try a pair but I couldn't find the exact right sizes for my 1500 SE so I passed. Are you running the Honda recommended size tires? If so, do you remember where you bought them? Thanks!
Hey Mike, My first set of tires was the Dunlops. I switched to Bridgestone because they was on sale, and never looked back. And I knew I didn't like squash and cauliflower in only one try.
I'm trying the E4s right now. They are ok. You are correct about the being slippery. The Bridgestones are better. They handle better and give a more plush ride. As you know, I'm considering the Darkside. But, I'm not sold on it yet.
I have a 14 Victory Vision and often pull a bushtec trailer. Running Dunlop elite 4. I want to go to Bridgestone, It's been hard for me to find the Bridgestone G702 and G701. I went from dunlop to Bridgestone on my 07 vulcan classic really liked the Bridgestones.
Thanks for your thoughts and experience MM. Newbe Wing rider, bought 08 this winter, it has E4 rear, Cobra front tire currently, decent life left on both. I am not an aggressive style rider on the Wing, so either Stones or Dunlops would probably serve me well. BTW, Thats a good price on the Stones! I tend to ride my 14 Valk little more agressive which I installed Pirelli Night Dragons after the stock which changed the bike in a good way. stay safe guys..
i'm not running darkside at the present, but have 100K + doing it, and won't hesitate to go back. It took me about 300 miles on my first CT to really get the feel of it, and it does take more intake to turn. I also like Stones better than Dunlop, though I have not tried the E-4s. Just cant see paying a hundred dollars a set more for something I didn't like.
Changed my Dunlop E4 rear tire at 18,966 miles. Could have easily ran it to 20,000 but decided to change it the same time as the front due to a up coming road trip. That’s on a 2018 Goldwing though. Several trips to tail of the dragon and a 5,300 mile ride from Ohio to California and back. The E3 and E4 front tires I had lasted between 8,500 to 9,500 miles.
I tried both as well on my Honda CTX1300. Just checked out the stock size tires on the new (2018+) Goldwing and learned they are the same size as my CTX. I didn't like the feel and grip of the Dunlop. I am on Bridgstone Exedra Max and so far they are my preferred option. Oh... and I ride in the Blue Ridge mountains all the time and I ride aggressively. I loose more rubber on the sides of my tire than the center.
Hello MM I ride a 2018 HGWT with Bridgestone OEM Tires and I just changed my rear tire at 13,000 miles and I never had a slip or difference in riding condition dry or in the rain the front tire is still on the bike and it looks like it could do at least 20,000 without a problem. Awesome video thanks for the information.
I had the dunlop 4s on my 1500 and in 2500 miles the rear had tread separation. I bought a 2013 F6B it had the dunlop 4s on it didn't grip on straights or curves. I switched to Bridgestone WOW night and day difference. Bridgestone for me hands down.
I'm 64 years old now and have riddin motorcycles since I was 13. I'm on my fouth Goldwing now a 2016, and I hate how tires wear out so fast. I guess the biggest deal is the price! They should NOT cost so much. I switched to the dark side a year and a half ago, and yes there is a noticable difference in handling, but I don't find it bad, just different. With over 4,000 miles on the Tire it still looks like the day I put it on. I have a Dunlop E4 on the front. While doing a Waterfall themed ride last summer in Arkansas I found myself of some rough gravel roads (which I will avoid going forward) and the bike seemed to handle better than I thought, but not well enough with wife onboard and trailer in tow to want to do again. I'm not an aggressive rider like in my younger days, so the car tire is just fine, but I do admit I prefer the handling of the motorcycle tire.
Well been riding motorcycles sense 16yrs old, 59 yrs old now! Owned a 75,79, 2010, 2018 Goldwing! Early years tried many different brands of tire! Oh ya also 2 moto guzzes 73 Eldorado, 2009 Norge, Yamaha road star 1700! I average riding miles per year 25000! First time pulling a big deluxe time CAMPER TRAILER with my 2018 DTC BEEN COAST TO COAST PULLING CAMPER TRAILER riding the back highways, scenic routes ETC! I ONLY ride on Dunlop tires! Ridden in snow pulling camper trailer have pictures to prove it! Ridden Az up into Canada across over to Maine and back also on 2010 goldwing! In video you weren't clear if Dunlop elite 4 were bais or radial! Hell I love mine! The shop I used for 7 yrs in ND! Can tell you how much I ride and they can prove I get best mileage out of Dunlop's verses, Bridgestone, Michelin, tires! Yes when pulling trailer 99% on 2018 I wear out 2 rear tires to 1 front!
I was looking for good tyres for my car for long time and now I'm on Bridgestone T005 they are brilliant. Than I got Bridgestone Battlax A41 for my XL1000 and they are fantastic so now, when I'll have to change tyres on my new 2001 GL it will be Bridgestone
Loved, loved, loved the squash analogy….. LMAO…. I don’t need to eat a buffet of squash to know I don’t like it. Sort of like scotch vs bourbon. If I have to acquire a taste for scotch when I love bourbon already, why drink scotch.?
My 15 f6b came with Bridgestone went to e4s now back to Bridgestone I like them better on the mountain roads here in northern California, I got about the same milage from both 11 to 12k.
A little late to the party but it’s about time to get new ties for my bike and I’d vouch for the comment on the dunlops not quite gripping as well in the rain as the Bridgestones do.. they don’t get quite as many miles but they grip better in the rain.
Hey Mike, After being very disappointed in the Dunlop E3 tires, I switched over to the Bridgestone Exedra 701/702 tires for my GL 1500 and haven’t looked back!
My 97 Valkyrie ate Dunlop’s, went dark on the rear, rode her for 12 years, got a used Wing in 17 that had Bridgestone’s on it, no comparison as far as I’m concerned. Average 10k on each set , quiet and grips the road. I’ll never buy another Dunlop.
I couldn't get the Dunlaps for my last tire change so went with the Bridgestone Excedra. Love them. Don't know yet what I'll get for milage but will probably stay with them. I too seem to get about 12 to 14 K between changes.
My Cross Country came with Dunlop e3s. Didn't care much for them either, they slid too much in the rain. Just put Avon Cobra chrome on the Cross country but only have about 500 miles so far. I'm running Michelin Commander 2 on my VTX, I like those.
Bridgestones! And, I also Darkside on ocasion. My "Kar Tar" is on a spare rim, so I can swap out to use car tire on interstate road trips. How well the Darkside works depends greatly on the choice of the tire to use. I hate run flats. I check in with the really aggressive Darkside twisty riders and see what they are using at the time.
Reading all the comments it is amazing. Some swear the dunlops are quieter others say the dunlops, some say the are better in the rain. Others say the stones are better in the rain. Some say the stones are soooo much quieter. Others say the dunlops 423 are. Others get double miles out of either brand…. I am getting ready to install the stones exedra max on my 2020 goldwing dct tour. It came with Dunlop 423. About 10K miles so far but they are getting close to the wear bars so I am going to change them. They wash out in the turns…. We’ll see if there is a difference…..
Last yr i tried the Commander 3 on my 16 wing. Pros and cons to this tire... Pros, excellent wet traction and at 11k i still have at least 5k left so very good mileage. Con and its a big one IMO...i get a humming out of the front tire which i can feel through my feet. Many others have experienced this same sensation as i have. When going very slow i can actually feel the unevenness of the front tire.....feels like i'm riding over tiny pebbles. My bike has centramatics, new wheel bearings and new steering neck bearing so i did everything i could before putting on these tires to ensure a smooth ride. At this point i will just wear out my commander 3's sometime next yr as my riding season is about done. I will be switching back to the Bridgstones
Mike, I have had nothing but bad luck with Dunlop. I had them on my Electra Glide and Lowrider Harleys. Both delaminated and one had a slit that looked like it was cut with a knife and when I put a screw driver in and lifted the rubber I could see the cords of the tire. My other one had a bulge in the sidewall that rubbed the belt drive. No where near then end of the tire life. I went to Continentals, then Metzlers. Both were better than Dunlops. Only thing was they had a softer compound and didn't get a lot of miles out of them, maybe 10,000. On my Goldwings I tried Dunlop Elite 4s and hated them. Compound was hard and not good on curves, especially in the rain. So with all that being said, I went back to Bridgestones. That is what the Goldwings came with from the factory with. The compound is not hard or soft, it's like in the middle. When you hit the curves hard or ride in the rain, you don't want a hard compound tire. Just my opinion from my experiences.
Heyyyy Memphis Mike, love your video, I tried both Dunlop and Bridgestone and I must say you’re on the money with both, I was a Dunlop guy for a while but I must say I prefer Bridgestone a little bit more, I am not a dark side person nor do I prefer to even try dark siding so my tire of choice going forward is Bridgestone, thank you for the insight and the info, safe travels.
Great video! I just picked up a 2021 Goldwing Tour DCT. I think I will stick with Bridgestones or go Metzler ME888's. The other bike I ride is a 2009 Vmax and I liked the way Metzlers held up on them overall. They are expensive tires compared to Bridgestones. The newer (Aka: 2010+) generation of bridgestones handle really well on both bikes, and are oem tires. I may switch back to Bridgestones next tire change.
Always interested in your videos. 2015 Goldwing came with Bridgestone G704, but they only made it 8,000 kilometers. Switched over to the Dunlop E4, but went to the 180/70-16 and they went 25,000 km and didn't have any issues. Just couldn't find any Dunlops available so went back to the Bridgestone Excedra G704. Hopefully will get better wear out of this set.
Just Bridgestones up till this point Mike. Even with my DDS still Bridgestone. Off Topic, I'm thinking of going to the Michelin Commander III Touring tire...yes I know there Bias-ply, but man I love my Michelins.
I can remember a time back when I rode a GL1500, in the mid 90's, and a friend was switching out tires on his new 1500 because he did not like the K177's that came stock on the bike. He had 500 miles on them so I bought those from him and put the rear tire on my 1500 and it lasted 25,000 miles. No kidding. I would normally with the E3's get anywhere from 18 - 20,000 miles on my tires with my 2005 GL1800. My 2018 Tour DCT is different. My last front tire which was a Bridgestone, I got 6,500 miles out of it. The rear tire a Bridgestone now has 4,700 miles on it and is at 2/32 tread left on it. I must ride more aggressively with this bike than any of my other Goldwings. I just went with the Dunlop E4 on the front and will get one for the back soon, and will see how the E4's wear. Thanks for the video and information. Ride safe.
I have 2 gold wings. Over 250 thou miles experience. I have consistently got 10 - 14 thou out of rear tires. 19 ÷ thou out of fronts. E3. E4. Bridgestone. Not much difference. I ride agressive. Do Iron Butt rides. Etc. 40 psi front. 42 psi rear. Have had best luck with Avon on my Valkyrie.
I had Dunlap 409 on my Street. I could spin the back tire in 4th gear in the rain. Bridgestones seem to wear out faster on my Wing but they are sticky.
I run a Dunlop WWW on my Road King. There are only a few WWW options for me. On my Sportsters I have run and LOVE the Michelin Commander II. I think Tires are like oil 😉
My F6B came with the Bridgestones got 21k miles out of my 1st set. I live in Aurora (just outside of Denver) so I put them through their paces in the mountains as well as flat land trips. My 2nd set of Bridgestones I only got about 18k miles but I didn't run them to the wear bars like the 1st set. I'm on my 3rd set now and love the tires.
Bought my '08 wing in 2017 and shortly thereafter replaced the worn out (at low miles) Metzlers with the E4s. I got 13,300 out of them but, just like your video showed, the left side of the front tire was worn down while the right side still had plenty of tread left on it. In 35 years of riding I had never had a tire wear like this, and two different Honda shops couldn't explain it. The front tire also had some cupping. I replaced them with another set of E4s and have been running the front with a little higher tire pressure and it looks like I am not going to get near the mileage I did on the first set, but the wear is more even and no cupping. The cost of these tires is ridiculous (mounted $621). I may go to the Bridgestones and see how I like them.
I am 66 years old. Have rode since I was 6 years old. Dirt bikes at first then road bikes around 17 years old. I ride a 2007 Wing now and a 2012 Harley Deluxe. I like to push left hand corners faster than riding corners to the right. Just saying!
Got 20k miles on the stock tires on my 2019 Harley Ultra Limited. They can still take on another trip. My last Harley (2017 Ultra Classic) had 16k miles on the stock tires before I traded the bike in. The tread was still deep and beautiful.
@@MemphisMike901 LOL! The HD is parked right now. Just added a '16 Goldwing to the rotation. Got back from an 840 round trip the other day. An absolute dream to ride. Hahahaha! Fast, smooth, quiet. Loving it so far.
@@HerreraCam That sounds great. I am headed to "Back of the Dragon" this week myself. Always wanted to ride there...Have been close but never been on it!
Ran Bridgestone once... felt no difference in performance. But, saw the cord on the rear tire at 9,000 miles. Currently using E4. All my previous E3 got 12K + mileage. Noise, yep... as they get the miles on them. I've had a few different types of tires on my CBR1000RR, typically get 5K out of them. Never have noticed any difference in any of them either. Men tend to want to brag that they use the "best"... whatever they have determined to be the best, in their opinion. Confirmation bias happens when they have a bud that does it too and agrees with everything they say. Put on some gloves, Mike...
Mike I run Dunlap’s on my Honda fb6 swap them out at around 15,000 miles usually riding one up . I figured I got my moneys worth out of them the last thing I want is a flat tire on the road .
Hi! I know what you mean about flats, but since I moved to Thailand, people will stop, help you get the tire off and take you to a tire store and wait for you to return and won't take money. I guess that's because Thailand is a scooter culture and they understand problems with motorcycles.
I've been running the elite 4's for the last 2 years on a gl1100. The only time I've notice any lose of traction is in temps under 50 degrees. I've got just over 12,000 miles on them and they look almost new still, your bike is probably 100lbs or more heavier than mine though. I live in northern Ohio where curvy roads are kind of few and far between, but I take the curvy ones every chance I get. I wouldn't say I go gentle through the curves, but I probably don't not them as hard as you either.
First of all, please tell me you stopped at the Interstate Bar-B-Q on the Arky side of the big muddy! That would make my tummy happy. I've never used Bridgestone except on dump-trucks, I thought the rubber compound was soft and lasted poorly but I can understand soft rubber does provide traction. I ran Dunlops on my last Honda to start with since they came on the bike. I since changed to the Pirelli Scorpion. Altho it is a trail rated tire, the profile is steeper than the Dunlop so it turns quicker, especially in tight reversing curves. Stay safe!
I run Michelin Commander 2's now they make the 3's I will probably try the 3's once I wear these out. They are a bias tire and you have to run a 65 aspect ratio in the back. But I do love them I personally hate dunlops they have not made a good tire since E2's. JMO I've thought about shinko for the price I could change them out yearly.
So on my 2016 F6b im at 11k miles. Came stock with bstones. I picked up a nail in rear and put on a dunlop. So bridgestone in front, e4 in rear. At 7k had traxxion suspension do the front and rear package. It seems to solve the irregular tire wear problem. Run 36/38 now. Hit rain coming home to okc from Atlanta. The bike used to get a little loose in the wet. After the suspension work that is totally gone. I don’t think it is ever recommended to run different mfg front and rear so i will go with a e4 upfront if I can get it to wear out. Another 2k or so.
LMAO! I can't do squash either. Makes me eat to gag. I appreciate your thoughts on these tires since I'll be needing some soon. I'm running E4 right now. Thinking of trying something else. Did you run dark side tires or just try someone else's? ? Always nice hanging out with Mike. I enjoyed the video.
Everybody seems so worried about the mileage they get on their tires. Is there anyone out there that's done some actual tests on traction and wet and dry pavement. That to me is more important than the few extra miles you get on a tire. When you're upside down in the ditch your thoughts are not going to be "boy I save some miles on that tire"
Hey Mike, well what did you end up doing? I just ran though a set of DDS and I noticed that the middle of the rear was wearing out, which tells me I'm over flatting it so I can feel more in control. I'm going back to original equipment. I have seen a post here and there that guys are installing a 70 height vs a 60. I use Shinkos, on my my adventure bike and I love the stickiness it gives me. I was just curious what you settled on.....later
Got my 2012 GW a little over a year ago and it came with the Dunlop E4s on it. I actually did put about 16k miles on them... and they were getting pretty bad. After not being able to find any E4s anywhere, I got me a set of Bridgestone tires and so far I LOVE them. They are much quieter and do seem to give my more grip in the turns. We haven't had much rain since I got them, so I have yet to try out that scenario. Think I'll keep these.
i dont like dunlop tires.as soon as i wear these out.ill go with metzeler.i can feel the tires sticking to the road.or at least thats the sensation you get.
I've been bouncing back between the Dunlop Roadsmart and the Michelin Pilot Road series. Not sure which one I like better so I alternate every set. Have you tried the Michelins?
The great tire debate rides on. Thanks for sharing, Mike!
I ran Bridgestone on my 2008 Goldwing for years. I couldn’t get much mileage out of them and didn’t care for the feel. I finally tried Dunlop Elite 4 this last tire change. We ride two up pulling a Bushtec trailer and I’ve put just over 5,000 miles on them. I really like them. I’ve been riding since 1970, starting when I was 15. Many years on police motorcycles and have years of experience as a police motorcycle instructor. I think it’s best to go with what suits us as individual riders. What tires feel good to one guy might not to another. Like the old saying, “Go with what you know.” Great video, Mike! Thanks for sharing.
Good advice!!
I have a Cross Country Tourer and have put 66k on this bike. But have logged many more on previous bikes. But I've used a lot of Dunlop 3's and Stones. Riding 2 up, cross country with a big load the stones are way better. The stones are better on grooved pavement, wet pavement, and track well through its treadlife. Under these load conditions, the Dunlop about 1/2-3/4 through their tread life will cup and have belts slip. Had bad back-to-back experiences with Dunlop on my Vulcan 2k(50K miles) and Victory XCT(66k miles). The Bridgestone's always performed flawlessly throughout their entire tread life. I think a big guy, riding 2 up in hot weather going cross country. With this weight, you should avoid the Dunlop's like the plague.
On my 2018 Goldwing DCT Tour, the bike came with Bridgestone G852 front and G853 rear tires (Honda OEM). I then replaced them with Dunlap D423 tires both front and rear. The D423 are also Honda OEM specifications. I found the same sensation of the Dunlap tires washing out a little bit in the corner during wet weather. I liked the grip of the Bridgestone much better. I will be replacing the Dunlaps when they wear out returning to the Bridgestones. As far as mileage, I replace my tires when they get close to the wear marks. I do not try to save money on tires. My safety is number one, no compromise. I want to count on my tires performing properly in all conditions including emergency situations and be able to trust them.
I wore out 2 Bridgestones set on the gl1800 then went to Dunlop E4 on the rear and have just put the Battleaxe BT45 on the front. This will be my setup from now on, i am very happy with my tires now. And Squash makes me barf !!
So you’re DD? Which direction did you place the arrow on the BT45?
Had Bristones as factory O.E. set ups in the 80's on new cruisers .
Put Bridgestones on GL1200's in 2003 .
They were all great for how i rode back then.
Put an E3 front on a GL1500 in 2006 and hated it because it would never bite on curves or on ramps on clezn dry pavement .
Just this year put a matched set of E4's on my GL1500 ..... loved the bite on the pavemeent .
However , at only 300 mi the front developed a buzz in the handle bars. Checked bearings , calipers and pads , the forks had new progressives pro installed at the same time as the pro mounted tires. Discovered a slight "inverted bump"" in the tread on the left half.
Did some research and found a common issue with this occurance.
Parked the bike and the next sunday took it out for an approx 200 mi ride. On curves it felt like the bike was not following the line i was riding.
Checked the rear this time and it has a 5/16 or more hop in the tread about 1/5 around the circumference of the tire .
Sheesh .
Checked both beads for mismounts and they both appear to be mounted correctly.
Tomorrow monday i am dropping it off and they are going to address the tires with their Dunlop rep when the individual comes in over the next month. In the interim i am not going to take any chances being away from home on a Sunday standed or worse. So it's just as well if its not accessible to use
I'm obviously not going to get a refund, so I'll be keeping an eye on them if i get warranty replacements.
If they don't approve new tires undr warranty , I'll be switching to the newer Bridgestone Exedra MAX model .
I've heard slippery stories about the BT models ( not that that line is meant for a Wing ) but often you would naturally have to assume that it would be close in characteristics to most models in the same brand .
I like curves and round-a-bouts , so i want some tire bite .
Side note - Eventhough the E4 is made in the USA ,
Dunlop - Goodyear is now owned by a chinese rubber co.
I can't help think that ALL these E4 left side of the tire issues are all a result of the same deficiency at the manufacturing level.
There is something wrong somewhere .... why would ALL these left side tire issues with the E4 be so plentiful.
For anyone that says they seem to slide out....or not follow their intended line , i firmly believe they are experiencing the same E4 issue i literally just started having .
When i had my first 4 rides on the new E4 tires they were Awesome.... but quicky went down hill ... fast .
There is a manufacturing issue OR a engineering / design issue.
Othrwise , the E4 would be , i think a supreme tire to beat . ... but not currently ..... and its costing me money .
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Bridgestones all the way. When I bought my 06 Wing it had Dunlop E3's on it and I couldn't wait to get them off and put the Bridgestones on. Better grip, better life. I just wish Michelin made a set for the Wing, I run Commander II's on my Harley.
i ride a 14 CB1100 with Bridgestone tires. i like them like you michelin doesnt make tires for my blke
I've had many motorcycles, various brands of tires, and have ridden tons of miles. what was interesting is the Bridgestones performed well regardless of which bike I rode. Fasteddie...2018 Gold Wing 6 speed..🤩
My dad was born by little rock, Arkansas. Then father passed away, mom had kids walk across America too California. I've never gotten 20,000 miles out of motorcycle tire! I used Dunlop on Harley then changed out too Bridgestone! I'm feeling the same about motorcycle tires, I'm going dark side next time on tires on Gold wing!
Mike - I regularly get 18-20k miles on my E4s on the 2007 Goldwing and ride high speed and twisties whenever I can.
I run Bridgestones also, no complaints.
Great tires... I’ll buy another set hands down.
I’m also running Shinkos after 10,000 on the original Dunlops. Front tires cupped. Rear wore flat. Noisy as hell. Shinko front and rear for what it cost for one Dunlop rear. Got good reviews. Engineered in Japan, manufactured in South Korea. Been in business since 1946. Found a Podcast of an interview between Motorcycle Men and an Exec from Shinko. Informative. They’ve done everything I’ve asked them to do so far except no rain yet. Hope I get at least the same mileage as the Dunlops.
I drove a Honda GW 1800 and had a gray head more than once. When I got air out of the wheel. I had my wife and luggage with me. I've been to Dunlop. As long as there is air in it everything is ok! Without air, it's a deflated condom! I've gone to the dark side runflat wounds and have done over 120,000 miles. There were punctures and cuts on the wheels, but the motorcycle does not fall!!! Damn manufacturers, where are your moto wheels with ranflat!!??
I just replaced (from the factory) Bridgestone tires for Shinko tires on my 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour after 10500 miles. The Shinko tires cost less than Bridgestone and Dunlap tires but perform just as well on the road!
How mych are Shinkos per set?
Approx. $250/set. Check them out on Revzilla
I liked my Shinko tires back when I had my Cavalcade
Love riding with my son, started him out at 4, he’s 21 now and the only one I’ll let borrow my street glide!
I have ran all of them over time .I like the Dunlaps,Bridgestones,Michelin II.ALL GOOD! Keep up the good work .
Bridgestones for me, please. I’ve never run Dunlop tire on the Wing, but on my Shadow, I couldn’t wait to get them off of it! Good to hear a comparison from someone who has run both tires.
I actually ran ME880's and Avon Cobras back in the day on my Shadow....those Avons REALLY gripped nicely!
Been winging it several years and sold my older 2006 and upgraded to the 2018 DCT a couple years ago... I've ran several different model tires... Dunlops, Bridgestones, Avon and Metzlers.... and have always bounced back and forth to Dunlop or Bridgestones.... The new bike came with Bridgestones and I've gotten a little over 11k on them and wearing good... but started to cup around 9-10k which I thought was pretty good.
Time to replace... although I could get more mileage out of them... I"m not one to push it. Its time for a new set of sneakers.... Ordered from Wingstuff this morning and free delivery... yee haa... :)
Take care all and ride safe... Thanks for the video Mike ! ! !
Great input Thank You! One thing I had to admit about my riding is position. Left lane inside most of the time. That puts me on the left high side of the groove. As an over the road trucker, I see the road ruts and recognize when I get out of the groove. Southern roads have more crown for rain and water shedding, but all roads develop low spots from heavy trucks and traffic patterns. This has effected my tire wear on my bikes. Around 7,000 miles I notice it more but still fail to ride the center of the groove.
Just food for thought. Road conditions determine as much wear on tires as does the compound of the tires. Asphalt and concrete up north are denser and less likely to soften in the warm summer where heat melts off tread to.
Good luck!
Hoka Hey
Thanks for the input Driver! I rarely ride center. Usually left 3rd 1st choice especially if in Right lane. Feel like it gives me more of on “out” should a hazard occur. Appreciate you truckers! I am a UPSer, but only local deliveries! Much respect
I have run both the Bridgestone vs Dunlop and they felt the same to me! Stay Safe My Friend!
I only ran Bridgestone tires on my previous motorcycle. They were quite and a got good mileage from them. They also performed well in wet conditions. My 2009 Goldwing came with Dunlop Elites. I have not seen any cupping issues yet but they are a lot noisier than the Bridgestones.
I have an 18 Goldwing and the bike came with Dunlops. I did not like the Dunlops and only got 9k mileage on them. I switched to Bridgestones and like them better. When I had big touring Harley's I would run MIchelin Commander II's on them and routinely got over 15k on them riding aggressively.
Many seem to speak highly of the Commanders
@@MemphisMike901 I called Michelin to inquire if the would make tires for Goldwings. I don't think it was in their plans.
I just dont get that. Seems to be a market for it.
How LUCKY are YOU, Mike .... (To share a ride with your son ....) :) :) GOOD TIMES, brother !! Be safe out there ....
I liked the Dunlops on my 1200 but not on the '05 1800. After going through 2 pairs in a season each, I switched to Stones at the urging of a friend. What a difference! I'll never go back to Dunlop, at least on this bike. I have a much greater sense of security on the road. Good job.
I bought a 2009 GW that has Dunlop Elite 4 on it. They had very little miles on them and I've put 7000 miles on them so far but my riding season is close to or at it's end for this year with snow in the forecast. Because of the possible tire shortage I decided I would order a set so when the Dunlops are done I know I will have the Bridgestones to put on. Your review is one that helped me decide to give them a try. Thanks for the review.
Hey Mike, we have ran both. Usually Dunlops when we have a long distance trip, because we have gotten more miles. We run Bridgestone when home and short trips inside of three weeks. I like the feel of Bridgestones better, they are softer and grip better than Dunlops. The most miles we have ridden on Dunlops were 15,000. We had a 5000 on them prior to leaving and changed tires while on the road. We average about 9 -12k on both brands, depending on how aggressive we ride.
My favorite tire on my 2012 Goldwing was Bridgestones.
MM.
I have Shinko E705 on my GW
Excellent traction and mileage.
$260 the pair. Give them a try.
Got 12K miles on the rear, two up and loaded. The front goes well over 15 K.
"Motorman" from "Ride like a pro" swears by them. He drives Harley's and said the Shinko's last him the longest. I was going to try a pair but I couldn't find the exact right sizes for my 1500 SE so I passed. Are you running the Honda recommended size tires? If so, do you remember where you bought them? Thanks!
Hey Mike, My first set of tires was the Dunlops. I switched to Bridgestone because they was on sale, and never looked back. And I knew I didn't like squash and cauliflower in only one try.
I'm trying the E4s right now. They are ok. You are correct about the being slippery. The Bridgestones are better. They handle better and give a more plush ride. As you know, I'm considering the Darkside. But, I'm not sold on it yet.
Bro I say Try the DS to decide for yourself!
I have a 14 Victory Vision and often pull a bushtec trailer. Running Dunlop elite 4.
I want to go to Bridgestone, It's been hard for me to find the Bridgestone G702 and G701.
I went from dunlop to Bridgestone on my 07 vulcan classic really liked the Bridgestones.
Thanks for your thoughts and experience MM. Newbe Wing rider, bought 08 this winter, it has E4 rear, Cobra front tire currently, decent life left on both. I am not an aggressive style rider on the Wing, so either Stones or Dunlops would probably serve me well. BTW, Thats a good price on the Stones! I tend to ride my 14 Valk little more agressive which I installed Pirelli Night Dragons after the stock which changed the bike in a good way. stay safe guys..
Pirelli sport demons on my CB1100!
i'm not running darkside at the present, but have 100K + doing it, and won't hesitate to go back. It took me about 300 miles on my first CT to really get the feel of it, and it does take more intake to turn. I also like Stones better than Dunlop, though I have not tried the E-4s. Just cant see paying a hundred dollars a set more for something I didn't like.
Dunlops have even had a price increase as well!
Changed my Dunlop E4 rear tire at 18,966 miles. Could have easily ran it to 20,000 but decided to change it the same time as the front due to a up coming road trip. That’s on a 2018 Goldwing though. Several trips to tail of the dragon and a 5,300 mile ride from Ohio to California and back. The E3 and E4 front tires I had lasted between 8,500 to 9,500 miles.
Bridgestone ... from the start. I agree great in wet. But no experience with Dunlop. I get a little over 20,000 kms or just over 12,000 miles
Good to know!
Love kilometers. I can go so much faster 🏍🏍🏍
I tried both as well on my Honda CTX1300. Just checked out the stock size tires on the new (2018+) Goldwing and learned they are the same size as my CTX. I didn't like the feel and grip of the Dunlop. I am on Bridgstone Exedra Max and so far they are my preferred option. Oh... and I ride in the Blue Ridge mountains all the time and I ride aggressively. I loose more rubber on the sides of my tire than the center.
Good to hear!
Hello MM I ride a 2018 HGWT with Bridgestone OEM Tires and I just changed my rear tire at 13,000 miles and I never had a slip or difference in riding condition dry or in the rain the front tire is still on the bike and it looks like it could do at least 20,000 without a problem. Awesome video thanks for the information.
I had the dunlop 4s on my 1500 and in 2500 miles the rear had tread separation.
I bought a 2013 F6B it had the dunlop 4s on it didn't grip on straights or curves.
I switched to Bridgestone WOW night and day difference.
Bridgestone for me hands down.
The way you flicked that thing.. you make me want to consider a pre-2018.. nice video.
man, I can handle my Wing in curves easier than my CB1100!!
I'm 64 years old now and have riddin motorcycles since I was 13. I'm on my fouth Goldwing now a 2016, and I hate how tires wear out so fast. I guess the biggest deal is the price! They should NOT cost so much. I switched to the dark side a year and a half ago, and yes there is a noticable difference in handling, but I don't find it bad, just different. With over 4,000 miles on the Tire it still looks like the day I put it on. I have a Dunlop E4 on the front. While doing a Waterfall themed ride last summer in Arkansas I found myself of some rough gravel roads (which I will avoid going forward) and the bike seemed to handle better than I thought, but not well enough with wife onboard and trailer in tow to want to do again. I'm not an aggressive rider like in my younger days, so the car tire is just fine, but I do admit I prefer the handling of the motorcycle tire.
Thanks for sharing your observations. We always need all the info we can get on tires.
Well been riding motorcycles sense 16yrs old, 59 yrs old now! Owned a 75,79, 2010, 2018 Goldwing! Early years tried many different brands of tire! Oh ya also 2 moto guzzes 73 Eldorado, 2009 Norge, Yamaha road star 1700! I average riding miles per year 25000!
First time pulling a big deluxe time CAMPER TRAILER with my 2018 DTC BEEN COAST TO COAST PULLING CAMPER TRAILER riding the back highways, scenic routes ETC! I ONLY ride on Dunlop tires! Ridden in snow pulling camper trailer have pictures to prove it! Ridden Az up into Canada across over to Maine and back also on 2010 goldwing!
In video you weren't clear if Dunlop elite 4 were bais or radial! Hell I love mine! The shop I used for 7 yrs in ND! Can tell you how much I ride and they can prove I get best mileage out of Dunlop's verses, Bridgestone, Michelin, tires! Yes when pulling trailer 99% on 2018 I wear out 2 rear tires to 1 front!
I was looking for good tyres for my car for long time and now I'm on Bridgestone T005 they are brilliant. Than I got Bridgestone Battlax A41 for my XL1000 and they are fantastic so now, when I'll have to change tyres on my new 2001 GL it will be Bridgestone
Loved, loved, loved the squash analogy….. LMAO…. I don’t need to eat a buffet of squash to know I don’t like it. Sort of like scotch vs bourbon. If I have to acquire a taste for scotch when I love bourbon already, why drink scotch.?
A man after my heart. Love bourbon. Cant stand Scotch!
My 15 f6b came with Bridgestone went to e4s now back to Bridgestone I like them better on the mountain roads here in northern California, I got about the same milage from both 11 to 12k.
Thanks for feedback
Hey Colleen, did you notice one being more noisy? Thanks
@@cyclechris6591 the Dunlop I think was a little more noisy but I wear a neotec 2 so it was not a problem.
Bridgestone. Very smooth ride.
I started out on Dunlops. They accented ever ruff spot in the road. The Bridgestone's ride so much smoother, and better in my opinion.
Yep. Less harsh to me.
A little late to the party but it’s about time to get new ties for my bike and I’d vouch for the comment on the dunlops not quite gripping as well in the rain as the Bridgestones do.. they don’t get quite as many miles but they grip better in the rain.
I used to run Dunlop but prefer the handling of the Bridgestones. I run the G702/G709 combo. I prefer the larger 180/70R 16 for my rear.
Double Darkside on my 2014 GL1800 Airbag. I will never go back! You should always ride on what you're comfortable though.
I wish I liked DS.
I love fried squash 😎 I’m a “STONER” haha Great Video
Keep up with your boy!!!😉
“When EF Memphis Mike talks, People listen”. Had to get me some. Ride safe and Fish often.
LoL
Hey Mike, After being very disappointed in the Dunlop E3 tires, I switched over to the Bridgestone Exedra 701/702 tires for my GL 1500 and haven’t looked back!
My 97 Valkyrie ate Dunlop’s, went dark on the rear, rode her for 12 years, got a used Wing in 17 that had Bridgestone’s on it, no comparison as far as I’m concerned. Average 10k on each set , quiet and grips the road. I’ll never buy another Dunlop.
Them old Valks were a BEAST!!!!
Ride a 2015 f6b in the mountains of northern California ran a set of e4s for a year 10,000 went back to Bridgestone, better in the wet and the curves.
I couldn't get the Dunlaps for my last tire change so went with the Bridgestone Excedra. Love them. Don't know yet what I'll get for milage but will probably stay with them. I too seem to get about 12 to 14 K between changes.
Just put another set of Bridgestones on. Think I got about 12k out of them. Man tires ave really gone up too.
My Cross Country came with Dunlop e3s. Didn't care much for them either, they slid too much in the rain. Just put Avon Cobra chrome on the Cross country but only have about 500 miles so far. I'm running Michelin Commander 2 on my VTX, I like those.
Bridgestones! And, I also Darkside on ocasion. My "Kar Tar" is on a spare rim, so I can swap out to use car tire on interstate road trips. How well the Darkside works depends greatly on the choice of the tire to use. I hate run flats. I check in with the really aggressive Darkside twisty riders and see what they are using at the time.
Bridgestone stock tires went 20K miles. Just replaced front and back with the same exact tires.
Reading all the comments it is amazing. Some swear the dunlops are quieter others say the dunlops, some say the are better in the rain. Others say the stones are better in the rain. Some say the stones are soooo much quieter. Others say the dunlops 423 are. Others get double miles out of either brand…. I am getting ready to install the stones exedra max on my 2020 goldwing dct tour. It came with Dunlop 423. About 10K miles so far but they are getting close to the wear bars so I am going to change them. They wash out in the turns…. We’ll see if there is a difference…..
And some of both brands have claimed they get 25k miles out of a set. I want to know how that happens
Last yr i tried the Commander 3 on my 16 wing. Pros and cons to this tire... Pros, excellent wet traction and at 11k i still have at least 5k left so very good mileage. Con and its a big one IMO...i get a humming out of the front tire which i can feel through my feet. Many others have experienced this same sensation as i have. When going very slow i can actually feel the unevenness of the front tire.....feels like i'm riding over tiny pebbles. My bike has centramatics, new wheel bearings and new steering neck bearing so i did everything i could before putting on these tires to ensure a smooth ride. At this point i will just wear out my commander 3's sometime next yr as my riding season is about done. I will be switching back to the Bridgstones
Mike, I have had nothing but bad luck with Dunlop. I had them on my Electra Glide and Lowrider Harleys. Both delaminated and one had a slit that looked like it was cut with a knife and when I put a screw driver in and lifted the rubber I could see the cords of the tire. My other one had a bulge in the sidewall that rubbed the belt drive. No where near then end of the tire life. I went to Continentals, then Metzlers. Both were better than Dunlops. Only thing was they had a softer compound and didn't get a lot of miles out of them, maybe 10,000. On my Goldwings I tried Dunlop Elite 4s and hated them. Compound was hard and not good on curves, especially in the rain. So with all that being said, I went back to Bridgestones. That is what the Goldwings came with from the factory with. The compound is not hard or soft, it's like in the middle. When you hit the curves hard or ride in the rain, you don't want a hard compound tire. Just my opinion from my experiences.
Heyyyy Memphis Mike, love your video, I tried both Dunlop and Bridgestone and I must say you’re on the money with both, I was a Dunlop guy for a while but I must say I prefer Bridgestone a little bit more, I am not a dark side person nor do I prefer to even try dark siding so my tire of choice going forward is Bridgestone, thank you for the insight and the info, safe travels.
Great video! I just picked up a 2021 Goldwing Tour DCT. I think I will stick with Bridgestones or go Metzler ME888's. The other bike I ride is a 2009 Vmax and I liked the way Metzlers held up on them overall. They are expensive tires compared to Bridgestones. The newer (Aka: 2010+) generation of bridgestones handle really well on both bikes, and are oem tires. I may switch back to Bridgestones next tire change.
Always interested in your videos. 2015 Goldwing came with Bridgestone G704, but they only made it 8,000 kilometers. Switched over to the Dunlop E4, but went to the 180/70-16 and they went 25,000 km and didn't have any issues. Just couldn't find any Dunlops available so went back to the Bridgestone Excedra G704. Hopefully will get better wear out of this set.
Just Bridgestones up till this point Mike. Even with my DDS still Bridgestone.
Off Topic, I'm thinking of going to the Michelin Commander III Touring tire...yes I know there Bias-ply, but man I love my Michelins.
Curious how they will handle
I can remember a time back when I rode a GL1500, in the mid 90's, and a friend was switching out tires on his new 1500 because he did not like the K177's that came stock on the bike. He had 500 miles on them so I bought those from him and put the rear tire on my 1500 and it lasted 25,000 miles. No kidding. I would normally with the E3's get anywhere from 18 - 20,000 miles on my tires with my 2005 GL1800. My 2018 Tour DCT is different. My last front tire which was a Bridgestone, I got 6,500 miles out of it. The rear tire a Bridgestone now has 4,700 miles on it and is at 2/32 tread left on it. I must ride more aggressively with this bike than any of my other Goldwings. I just went with the Dunlop E4 on the front and will get one for the back soon, and will see how the E4's wear. Thanks for the video and information. Ride safe.
lemme kn ow your take on it after a few more miles! sounds like you hit the roads HARD as well!
I have 2 gold wings. Over 250 thou miles experience. I have consistently got 10 - 14 thou out of rear tires. 19 ÷ thou out of fronts. E3. E4. Bridgestone. Not much difference. I ride agressive. Do Iron Butt rides. Etc. 40 psi front. 42 psi rear. Have had best luck with Avon on my Valkyrie.
I had Dunlap 409 on my Street. I could spin the back tire in 4th gear in the rain. Bridgestones seem to wear out faster on my Wing but they are sticky.
Good to know. I think i am looking for more performance vs longevity, which is what I hope for in Bridgestones. Thanks for your comment
Michelin Commander II's have been a good long lasting mileage tire. I have a friend that really enjoys the Michelin Scorcher line.
the commanders have been getting a lot of talk here lately among Wing riders.
Another top notch video bud!🇺🇸💫👍🏻😎
I noticed slipping on tar snakes with dunlops. Never noticed it with bridgestones. This goes for my GW and my sportbike
Agree
I did not care for the E4’s. Currently dark siding but did pick up a extra back rim so I may try the Bridgestone
Randy
I run a Dunlop WWW on my Road King. There are only a few WWW options for me. On my Sportsters I have run and LOVE the Michelin Commander II. I think Tires are like oil 😉
My F6B came with the Bridgestones got 21k miles out of my 1st set. I live in Aurora (just outside of Denver) so I put them through their paces in the mountains as well as flat land trips. My 2nd set of Bridgestones I only got about 18k miles but I didn't run them to the wear bars like the 1st set. I'm on my 3rd set now and love the tires.
Bridgestones for me
Bought my '08 wing in 2017 and shortly thereafter replaced the worn out (at low miles) Metzlers with the E4s. I got 13,300 out of them but, just like your video showed, the left side of the front tire was worn down while the right side still had plenty of tread left on it. In 35 years of riding I had never had a tire wear like this, and two different Honda shops couldn't explain it. The front tire also had some cupping. I replaced them with another set of E4s and have been running the front with a little higher tire pressure and it looks like I am not going to get near the mileage I did on the first set, but the wear is more even and no cupping. The cost of these tires is ridiculous (mounted $621). I may go to the Bridgestones and see how I like them.
Yeah strangely they all want to claim its because the road is not flat and we ride more to the inside left most of time. I call BS.
Yep, that is what they told me too, and I also thought it was BS.
I am 66 years old. Have rode since I was 6 years old. Dirt bikes at first then road bikes around 17 years old. I ride a 2007 Wing now and a 2012 Harley Deluxe. I like to push left hand corners faster than riding corners to the right. Just saying!
Got 20k miles on the stock tires on my 2019 Harley Ultra Limited. They can still take on another trip. My last Harley (2017 Ultra Classic) had 16k miles on the stock tires before I traded the bike in. The tread was still deep and beautiful.
Sounds like I need a HD!
@@MemphisMike901 LOL! The HD is parked right now. Just added a '16 Goldwing to the rotation. Got back from an 840 round trip the other day. An absolute dream to ride. Hahahaha! Fast, smooth, quiet. Loving it so far.
@@HerreraCam That sounds great. I am headed to "Back of the Dragon" this week myself. Always wanted to ride there...Have been close but never been on it!
Ran Bridgestone once... felt no difference in performance. But, saw the cord on the rear tire at 9,000 miles. Currently using E4. All my previous E3 got 12K + mileage. Noise, yep... as they get the miles on them. I've had a few different types of tires on my CBR1000RR, typically get 5K out of them. Never have noticed any difference in any of them either. Men tend to want to brag that they use the "best"... whatever they have determined to be the best, in their opinion. Confirmation bias happens when they have a bud that does it too and agrees with everything they say.
Put on some gloves, Mike...
I shredded an E4 Rear tire to the cord as well at about 10k miles!
I too find it hard to pick my nose with gloves on.😂
Mike I run Dunlap’s on my Honda fb6 swap them out at around 15,000 miles usually riding one up . I figured I got my moneys worth out of them the last thing I want is a flat tire on the road .
Hi! I know what you mean about flats, but since I moved to Thailand, people will stop, help you get the tire off and take you to a tire store and wait for you to return and won't take money. I guess that's because Thailand is a scooter culture and they understand problems with motorcycles.
Thata pretty cool man.
What is the wind screen your running ? Thanks for video good topics
KlockWerks
I've been running the elite 4's for the last 2 years on a gl1100. The only time I've notice any lose of traction is in temps under 50 degrees. I've got just over 12,000 miles on them and they look almost new still, your bike is probably 100lbs or more heavier than mine though. I live in northern Ohio where curvy roads are kind of few and far between, but I take the curvy ones every chance I get. I wouldn't say I go gentle through the curves, but I probably don't not them as hard as you either.
I do enjoy the exedra’s 😎.
Have used both of these tyres over 60'000 Ks and the Bridgestone wins hands down !
First of all, please tell me you stopped at the Interstate Bar-B-Q on the Arky side of the big muddy! That would make my tummy happy. I've never used Bridgestone except on dump-trucks, I thought the rubber compound was soft and lasted poorly but I can understand soft rubber does provide traction. I ran Dunlops on my last Honda to start with since they came on the bike. I since changed to the Pirelli Scorpion. Altho it is a trail rated tire, the profile is steeper than the Dunlop so it turns quicker, especially in tight reversing curves. Stay safe!
Havent been to Interstate BBQ in yrs. im a Central BBQ guy in Memphis area
I run Michelin Commander 2's now they make the 3's I will probably try the 3's once I wear these out. They are a bias tire and you have to run a 65 aspect ratio in the back. But I do love them I personally hate dunlops they have not made a good tire since E2's. JMO I've thought about shinko for the price I could change them out yearly.
Good job Chris 👍🏻😎
So on my 2016 F6b im at 11k miles. Came stock with bstones. I picked up a nail in rear and put on a dunlop. So bridgestone in front, e4 in rear. At 7k had traxxion suspension do the front and rear package. It seems to solve the irregular tire wear problem. Run 36/38 now.
Hit rain coming home to okc from Atlanta. The bike used to get a little loose in the wet. After the suspension work that is totally gone. I don’t think it is ever recommended to run different mfg front and rear so i will go with a e4 upfront if I can get it to wear out. Another 2k or so.
Bridgestone are great in wet conditions
Going with Bridgestone next set.... And squash is not good!!!
😂😂
On my old goldwing I ran avon tires and loved them the sad thing is they don't make them for the new wing
nice road,had to google ,may have to give it a go
LMAO! I can't do squash either. Makes me eat to gag. I appreciate your thoughts on these tires since I'll be needing some soon. I'm running E4 right now. Thinking of trying something else. Did you run dark side tires or just try someone else's? ? Always nice hanging out with Mike. I enjoyed the video.
I tried Dano’s Bike. He is Double Darkside. And i cant keep up with him 😂
running Bridgestones here in KY boss..
Everybody seems so worried about the mileage they get on their tires. Is there anyone out there that's done some actual tests on traction and wet and dry pavement. That to me is more important than the few extra miles you get on a tire. When you're upside down in the ditch your thoughts are not going to be "boy I save some miles on that tire"
Hey Mike, well what did you end up doing? I just ran though a set of DDS and I noticed that the middle of the rear was wearing out, which tells me I'm over flatting it so I can feel more in control. I'm going back to original equipment. I have seen a post here and there that guys are installing a 70 height vs a 60. I use Shinkos, on my my adventure bike and I love the stickiness it gives me. I was just curious what you settled on.....later
Got my 2012 GW a little over a year ago and it came with the Dunlop E4s on it. I actually did put about 16k miles on them... and they were getting pretty bad. After not being able to find any E4s anywhere, I got me a set of Bridgestone tires and so far I LOVE them. They are much quieter and do seem to give my more grip in the turns. We haven't had much rain since I got them, so I have yet to try out that scenario. Think I'll keep these.
i dont like dunlop tires.as soon as i wear these out.ill go with metzeler.i can feel the tires sticking to the road.or at least thats the sensation you get.
I've been bouncing back between the Dunlop Roadsmart and the Michelin Pilot Road series. Not sure which one I like better so I alternate every set. Have you tried the Michelins?
Bridgestone is the only tires that go on my wing