Total agree bro, awesome vid. This technique really allows you to eye off your wave rather than losing sight of it in a frantic paddle. Once you've done it for a while, older surfers on short(er) boards will appreciate the extra energy saved.
I really like the point you made about being able to keep your eye on the wave when you are paddling to the outside, instead of sitting outside paddling in. My neck is not what it use to be, thus I struggle to look over my shoulder to see how the wave is developing. Nothing feels better than hunting a peak, paddling to it and catching it with a pivot and two strokes. (I would appreciate an advanced episode of this, covering the different combinations of this technique in larger waves...lefts rights backdoors, add other surfers etc)
One point about riding White water vs riding the face of a wave. When riding White water you are literally riding the moving water. However, when riding the face of the wave you are riding the moving energy that is lifting the water. The water itself isn't moving forward until it breaks. An example, throw a tennis ball out into the water. It lifts and falls with the wave but doesn't move from it's location. It's the energy that we ride, not the water. Understanding this helps to explain the process of staying in the energy instead of riding straight and into riding the water. Throw the ball into the White water, and now the ball rolls and rides in with the water. I point this out because often beginners don't, "get it" until they finally experience riding the energy vs riding the water. Sadly, many never progress this far.
I've found surfing to be incredibly hard to learn. You're right, many never progress to the point of actually riding a green wave and performing a turn or two under control for this reason. In learning to surf proficiently, I spent about 200-300 hours over the course of the year in the water before feeling any real control over the board and connection with the wave's energy. I think people underestimate the time it takes to learn to surf, and if you don't live near a surfable break, it's unlikely that a person would have enough access to the ocean to progress effectively. Going surfing on vacation is great, but if someone can only surf a few days per year, I can't see how they could ever really learn to surf. I'm sure some have done it, but damn, it takes a loooong time to learn.
@@goaway1236 man, i sit back enough so the nose stays at 90degrees more or less, or something like that in the moment of the turn. I got enough grip from my surf cloaths, maybe thats the difference.
Really awesome I really never surfed but I been so amped to try.... Do you think as a beginner should I go to a surf school to learn first hand how to surf first just to get the feel of surf or should just go and hire a surf board and try it what should I do
love your videos..good job guys..if you could do a video for older surfers who rather use shorter boards and what type of equipment do you recommend...thanks...
Thank you 🙏 When pivoting a walden 9, i have to move back further on the board, then when getting into prone i have to scoot forward a bit because i am tall. It feels awkard. Could it be i need a longer board?
Could you talk a little bit about the timing? I find beginners pivot and swing too late and the lip causes them to nose dive. I tell people to pivot and swing when the wave looks 45 degrees in the face. Also when theres some feathering at the top of the wave.
Hey Connor, here's what I've found works in terms of timing. Imagine that you are trying to paddle out past the breaking waves. Do you know the moment where you aren't sure that you're going to make it out past an oncoming wave, but you do, and the wave lifts you up really high and then you kind of slap down on the backside of the wave as you continue paddling out? Well, if you would have turned your board around right at that moment and paddled back towards the shore, you would be performing the Kale's Pivot & Swing move with excellent timing. There's plenty of energy in the wave at that point to get you on a plane without having to paddle more than a couple of strokes. Have fun! Maybe I'll see you out there some time.
@@JosephJujnovich Good luck. Also remember to "activate the banana" at the moment the waves starts lifting the back of your board to keep from nose diving. The energy in the wave is pretty strong at this point depending on the size. As soon as you feel like you're definitely going to head down the front of the wave- jump to your feet bro!
@@jeremyfreetoroam sweet! Yeah I remember someone telling me to arch my back more (like a banana). Makes sense, pulling the centre of gravity and vertical rotation / roll back to prevent toppling forwards. On holiday in Bali - Dreamland and Padang Padang beach today! :-) thanks for the tips!
Groveler board typically has more volume in it to allow for smaller weaker waves :) Daily board is sharper and better for high performance (should the waves be good enough). Hope this helps thanks for watching! :)
Hey guys, iv started surfing regularly during 2018 on a 7’6 while travelling and after a year I can get green waves comfortably, but now I’m back in my home country and want to buy a board But how will I know when to move to a shorter board? And which board should I move to? Cheers, love your videos
Thanks for your awesome video tutorials!! I have a small question - is this possible to catch the green waves with the longboard (around 7,6 size)? If I feel comfortable on the board this size on white water what is the maximum heigh of real wave I can caught with this board? Or should I take only short board for green waves? thanks in advance :)
You can definitely catch green waves on a longboard, I'm just about reaching intermediate stage myself and have caught a couple on mine. I find its good to go out when its calmer though to practice paddling out and pivoting e.t.c :)
Thnx Kale a bunch ! Of brocolli please, oh can you please tell us about the fush short board and why it is so good at intermediate level please ! I'm a kiwi so i call it a fush ! 🐏
Michael Wilson it’s basically an intermediary between sharp performance boards and a soft longboard and offers the best of both worlds - more buoyancy but not too big and cumbersome
@@KalesBroccoli thanz kales this is a gr8 tip i surfs one yrs ago and was goot dunno why eye didnt stick wiff it. Fanks its also wider flat deck and stable too. Pardom me spell its late ear. Moochos grayhias kind sir. Local shops dont hire em out often dey mostly do 8 foot soft tops gjeez its a.wheel sciemz dis sport n needa plenya dosh also. I have had good.luck on a fish beforw.spose i will look out fir one aginee e. Luv yr wok broc. !
Nah man its Melbourne near the gold coast on the west coast close to Darwin which is next to Hobart on the way to Adelaide in new Zealand but its a secret spot for UA-cam
@@nodorksshouldgrow3309 Doesn't really make sense to me, a 6'8 can turn in whitewater as well. So, if your turning wax or a traction pad can help as well.
Kales Broccoli , no i think this video is very helpful for beginners and same for a lot of your other videos. It's just that I'm still scared of catching green waves, so most of my surfing is done in the white water.
@@halorafael3084 I'm more scared of other surfers! Maybe a video for newbies dealing with learning to surf on populated beaches? I know there's a video about the rules/lineup etc. But on long sandy beaches like are usual for most beginners in the UK like Newgale, Whitesands etc you could be at any point along a 2 mile stretch with no formulated lineup. Just lots of people all trying to catch waves all over the place.
many times I paddle hard, give it all but don't catch the wave , and it seems like other guys paddle a few small paddles and catch it easy.. what am I doing wrong ?
I must admit, I do not understand your approach to teaching surfing. You seem to think it's typical to begin on a short board, even in relatively small waves. I live in Hawaii. Everyone here starts on a long board, 9' or more, maybe an 8'6" or a bit shorter if you're a kid, but still with the spoon-nose, long board shape. No one starts on a pointy nosed 7 footer. And people stay surfing on that 9-footer for a long time. You can ride plenty big waves, over head-high on a long board, learn to turn, go down the line, go backside, grab the rail. Maybe you can't do snappy, roundhouse cutbacks, but that's for experienced surfers anyway, and by the time you're ready to do those, you've dinged up your long board and are ready for a new one anyway. Folks, start on a long board. It's easier to balance on, faster to paddle and plenty smooth riding. You can perfect all your techniques and have a lot more fun. The only disadvantage to a long board is that it's harder to punch through broken waves while paddling out, but if you study your break, you'll usually find a path where the break isn't as strong or you'll figure out the timing and paddle out after a set has passed.
dude! You have to make a shirt that says activate the banana!
someting to practice while waiting for waves, great tips!
fanks 🤓
Total agree bro, awesome vid. This technique really allows you to eye off your wave rather than losing sight of it in a frantic paddle. Once you've done it for a while, older surfers on short(er) boards will appreciate the extra energy saved.
I really like the point you made about being able to keep your eye on the wave when you are paddling to the outside, instead of sitting outside paddling in. My neck is not what it use to be, thus I struggle to look over my shoulder to see how the wave is developing. Nothing feels better than hunting a peak, paddling to it and catching it with a pivot and two strokes. (I would appreciate an advanced episode of this, covering the different combinations of this technique in larger waves...lefts rights backdoors, add other surfers etc)
One point about riding White water vs riding the face of a wave. When riding White water you are literally riding the moving water. However, when riding the face of the wave you are riding the moving energy that is lifting the water. The water itself isn't moving forward until it breaks. An example, throw a tennis ball out into the water. It lifts and falls with the wave but doesn't move from it's location. It's the energy that we ride, not the water. Understanding this helps to explain the process of staying in the energy instead of riding straight and into riding the water. Throw the ball into the White water, and now the ball rolls and rides in with the water. I point this out because often beginners don't, "get it" until they finally experience riding the energy vs riding the water. Sadly, many never progress this far.
I've found surfing to be incredibly hard to learn. You're right, many never progress to the point of actually riding a green wave and performing a turn or two under control for this reason. In learning to surf proficiently, I spent about 200-300 hours over the course of the year in the water before feeling any real control over the board and connection with the wave's energy. I think people underestimate the time it takes to learn to surf, and if you don't live near a surfable break, it's unlikely that a person would have enough access to the ocean to progress effectively. Going surfing on vacation is great, but if someone can only surf a few days per year, I can't see how they could ever really learn to surf. I'm sure some have done it, but damn, it takes a loooong time to learn.
It's riding a moving downward ramp
Thanks Kale great feedback regarding pivot and swing catching waves
Ima leave the like for the next pivot and turn video where you show us how you use your legs to do all the work😉
Love a good pivot & swing team!! See you guys in the next video 😁
goood lesson helped me a lot..................THNX
I catch much more waves now that i've learned to pivot and swing (is this Right?) Even in a 9'0 longboard, does wonders! Great content as always
Awesome mate :)
Kauan which part of the board do you sit ? I find i am always slipping on my 9ft board
@@goaway1236 man, i sit back enough so the nose stays at 90degrees more or less, or something like that in the moment of the turn. I got enough grip from my surf cloaths, maybe thats the difference.
@@BackupLK1 thanks bro might need to start investing in proper surf clothes
I found I had to use wax, even on my soft top, just to keep my body from slipping during paddling.
This video is great. I will have to watch it again next time I'm going to be near the ocean.
Love your vids they all help me
KYEANDREWS38 ! Excellent thanks Kye
Really awesome I really never surfed but I been so amped to try.... Do you think as a beginner should I go to a surf school to learn first hand how to surf first just to get the feel of surf or should just go and hire a surf board and try it what should I do
Move to Hawaii for 10years or Australia
love your videos..good job guys..if you could do a video for older surfers who rather use shorter boards and what type of equipment do you recommend...thanks...
You guys are absolutely amazing . Keep up the good work my dudes.
Thank you Samuel Fraser!
Big thank you for the pivot and swing tutorial. I watched the video couple of times rewinding that part. I think I got it. Now I need practice.
MilanChamling awesome!!
Nailed it !!
Thanks Rodge!! How’s the surfin coming along?
👍👍🤙
Awesome positional video. Haven't gone out much lately, soon enough.
Jim McCarley 😁😁😁
Good stuff. Did you talk about rotating legs clockwise or anti clockwise to assist the speed of swing right or left?
As always, great video! 👌🏻🤙🏼
Erick Palacio excellent 🎉🏄🏼♂️
Love the video. So informative 🤙
Great tip I'll try it tomorrow
Deborah Redwood how’d it go?
Such a good intro
Thank you 🙏 When pivoting a walden 9, i have to move back further on the board, then when getting into prone i have to scoot forward a bit because i am tall. It feels awkard. Could it be i need a longer board?
Hey mate!! I love your videos bro it helps me a lot!!! Can you guys also do a video explaining about wetsuits and the differences among them ? Cheers
Sure eventually
Is there a video on how to start doing little carves up and down the wave like not big huge turns but more for beginners like little carves
Thanks, great stuff 👌🏼
Thanks Bozek!
Again thank you for your brilliant advice !on the best!
Sick as like normal yewwww 🤙
Could you talk a little bit about the timing? I find beginners pivot and swing too late and the lip causes them to nose dive.
I tell people to pivot and swing when the wave looks 45 degrees in the face. Also when theres some feathering at the top of the wave.
Connor Pearson changes depending on what the wave is doing obviously - very tricky to convey visually. More of a try it and see kinda deal
Hey Connor, here's what I've found works in terms of timing. Imagine that you are trying to paddle out past the breaking waves. Do you know the moment where you aren't sure that you're going to make it out past an oncoming wave, but you do, and the wave lifts you up really high and then you kind of slap down on the backside of the wave as you continue paddling out? Well, if you would have turned your board around right at that moment and paddled back towards the shore, you would be performing the Kale's Pivot & Swing move with excellent timing. There's plenty of energy in the wave at that point to get you on a plane without having to paddle more than a couple of strokes. Have fun! Maybe I'll see you out there some time.
@@jeremyfreetoroam rad, gonna try this tomorrow
@@JosephJujnovich Good luck. Also remember to "activate the banana" at the moment the waves starts lifting the back of your board to keep from nose diving. The energy in the wave is pretty strong at this point depending on the size. As soon as you feel like you're definitely going to head down the front of the wave- jump to your feet bro!
@@jeremyfreetoroam sweet! Yeah I remember someone telling me to arch my back more (like a banana). Makes sense, pulling the centre of gravity and vertical rotation / roll back to prevent toppling forwards. On holiday in Bali - Dreamland and Padang Padang beach today! :-) thanks for the tips!
Have you ever seen anyone sink the tail of the board to propel forward on takeoff?
i've been doing that since the 1970's. Works awesome!
@@thefeldenkraiscenter thanks Lori, you know of any video tutorials on it?
@@Patrut8698 yep on vhs and beta out soon
Great episode Kales
One question, what's the main difference between a daily and a groveler board?
Thanks and keep it up!
Groveler board typically has more volume in it to allow for smaller weaker waves :) Daily board is sharper and better for high performance (should the waves be good enough). Hope this helps thanks for watching! :)
I was told in california winter of 1991 to start with the white water and that everybody there had done the same so I followed suit
Thank you very much for the advice
julian pacheco no wuckas 😁
Can you do a video on small barrel riding?
TheWaffleGuy just barrel riding in general perhaps
Yes! Small barrel riding please!
Hey guys, iv started surfing regularly during 2018 on a 7’6 while travelling
and after a year I can get green waves comfortably, but now I’m back in my home country and want to buy a board
But how will I know when to move to a shorter board? And which board should I move to?
Cheers, love your videos
Kale were is that beach
Soooo coooool
Thanks for your awesome video tutorials!! I have a small question - is this possible to catch the green waves with the longboard (around 7,6 size)? If I feel comfortable on the board this size on white water what is the maximum heigh of real wave I can caught with this board? Or should I take only short board for green waves?
thanks in advance :)
You can definitely catch green waves on a longboard, I'm just about reaching intermediate stage myself and have caught a couple on mine. I find its good to go out when its calmer though to practice paddling out and pivoting e.t.c :)
Pivot & Swing start at 5:00
Muito legal seu vídeo, vou indicar para algumas pessoas. Valeu. Very cool this video, I'll share with friends. Thank you.
Thnx Kale a bunch ! Of brocolli please, oh can you please tell us about the fush short board and why it is so good at intermediate level please ! I'm a kiwi so i call it a fush ! 🐏
Michael Wilson it’s basically an intermediary between sharp performance boards and a soft longboard and offers the best of both worlds - more buoyancy but not too big and cumbersome
@@KalesBroccoli thanz kales this is a gr8 tip i surfs one yrs ago and was goot dunno why eye didnt stick wiff it. Fanks its also wider flat deck and stable too. Pardom me spell its late ear. Moochos grayhias kind sir. Local shops dont hire em out often dey mostly do 8 foot soft tops gjeez its a.wheel sciemz dis sport n needa plenya dosh also. I have had good.luck on a fish beforw.spose i will look out fir one aginee e. Luv yr wok broc. !
Please do a pop up video specifically for shortboard/fish.
We have :) same principles apply
Hey I’ve been looking for the answer to a question. What size board should someone who weights 125 lbs and 5’4?
Depends on your surf level and the place where youre surfing.
I’ve been on the water for about 1 year in cali
Depends on your ability as well and volume is most important. 60kg beginner you'd be looking around 28-30L go for a hybrid fish shape :)
Thanks! Extremely helpful!🤙🏼
@@KalesBroccoli would a hybrid fish with more volume also work for heavier people (~90kg) or better a longer board?
Is this bondi Beach?
Nah man its Melbourne near the gold coast on the west coast close to Darwin which is next to Hobart on the way to Adelaide in new Zealand but its a secret spot for UA-cam
Stay psyched and stay safe everyone!
May God bless you all🙏🏼🙏🏼🤙🏼
When would you guys recommend getting a traction pad? I surf a 6’8 at the moment, not too sure on the other dimensions at the moment.
When you feel you need more traction on your back foot executing turns
@@j3in725 when you learn to paddle out and actually go surfing is the time
@@nodorksshouldgrow3309 Doesn't really make sense to me, a 6'8 can turn in whitewater as well. So, if your turning wax or a traction pad can help as well.
3 sessions and still haven’t caught a wave:(. but im not given up
6 months later, how you doing now
yeah facts lmao where u at in ur progress now
@@lukashreds9708 Way better im on a shortboard now, got about 10 waves last sesh
@@hugeg1121 sickkk bro
Yeah dude one day you'll get a insane sesh and you'll be catching waves from then on
Can you make an instructional video for how to surf more and work less?
I thought I seen you at Blacks this morning
But when do you want to initiate the pivot and swing?
When the wave is close
When will the “activate the banana” shirts be available?!
Can you make more videos specifically for beginners?
Halo Rafael is this video not specific for beginners? And about several others on this channel?
Kales Broccoli I guess not...
Kales Broccoli , no i think this video is very helpful for beginners and same for a lot of your other videos. It's just that I'm still scared of catching green waves, so most of my surfing is done in the white water.
@@halorafael3084 I'm more scared of other surfers! Maybe a video for newbies dealing with learning to surf on populated beaches? I know there's a video about the rules/lineup etc. But on long sandy beaches like are usual for most beginners in the UK like Newgale, Whitesands etc you could be at any point along a 2 mile stretch with no formulated lineup. Just lots of people all trying to catch waves all over the place.
Here in California we call that "corking" or "pop cork"
Hundred percent
Lol, I didn’t know I was actually doing the pivot swing until now
2:54
:D This shall help, thanks
Grace Believer 😁
Where are these guys? West coast of Australia??
Sydney
what beach is this? Congrats for the content
Sydney :) up near Narrabeen
@@HowtoRip sellout
Watched the whole video and didn't find what to do to pivot. Did I miss it?
I find it is really hard to pivot and swing on a large softboard
many times I paddle hard, give it all but don't catch the wave , and it seems like other guys paddle a few small paddles and catch it easy.. what am I doing wrong ?
Watch my paddling video
More on long boarding.
Sean Boyle what specifically
I activated my Banana and wound up raping some poor chick in the dunes...
Ever been stung by a stonefish in that pool?
I must admit, I do not understand your approach to teaching surfing. You seem to think it's typical to begin on a short board, even in relatively small waves. I live in Hawaii. Everyone here starts on a long board, 9' or more, maybe an 8'6" or a bit shorter if you're a kid, but still with the spoon-nose, long board shape. No one starts on a pointy nosed 7 footer. And people stay surfing on that 9-footer for a long time. You can ride plenty big waves, over head-high on a long board, learn to turn, go down the line, go backside, grab the rail. Maybe you can't do snappy, roundhouse cutbacks, but that's for experienced surfers anyway, and by the time you're ready to do those, you've dinged up your long board and are ready for a new one anyway.
Folks, start on a long board. It's easier to balance on, faster to paddle and plenty smooth riding. You can perfect all your techniques and have a lot more fun. The only disadvantage to a long board is that it's harder to punch through broken waves while paddling out, but if you study your break, you'll usually find a path where the break isn't as strong or you'll figure out the timing and paddle out after a set has passed.
But for now.....let’s just go surfing.......that’s all there is....
Who else grabs the rail to pop up
A lot of professional surfers - watch them
I tried once. The force of the water pushed my hand backwards and my nose planted on the deck. Never again. Not for me.
Bro Please, sub for your Latins followers, if isn't not a annoyance for you, in English and Spanish Pleaseee