"Common Sense PREVAILED!" - Ian Collins On Muslim Pupil Losing Legal Battle Over School 'Prayer Ban'
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- A ruling dismissing a Muslim student’s High Court challenge against a ban on prayer rituals at her school is a “victory” for all others, its headteacher has said.
Michaela Community School in Brent, north London, faced legal action from the pupil, who claimed its policy was discriminatory and unlawfully breached her right to religious freedom.
In a judgment on Tuesday, a judge concluded the ban did not interfere with the student’s rights and was “proportionate” amid the school’s aim to promote an ethos of inclusivity and social cohesion.
Katherine Birbalsingh, the high-achieving school’s founder and headteacher, said: “A school should be free to do what is right for the pupils it serves.
“The court’s decision is therefore a victory for all schools.
“Schools should not be forced by one child and her mother to change its approach simply because they have decided they don’t like something at the school.”
Ian Collins says "common sense prevailed" following the High Court's ruling on the 'prayer ban'.
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Equality means you treat everyone the same, but they don't want equality they want to dominate.
Embarrassing! I’d keep it down if I were you 😂
Absolutely!
And they get what they want by using intimidation and threats.
@@hmmmmm2634your gaslighting and lies don't work any more
Time to pull weeds out
Finally, a judge doing their job right and not pandering to the mob. Thank God it was the right decision
No, don't thank God, that's the whole point of the ruling!
@@20quid . You seem upset
God is just a figment of someone's imagination
@@Musteringdownunder Which they usually want to impose on others.
"Thank god" 😂😂😂😂😂 why am I not surprised
They should move to a Muslim country if they dont like our law's
Their idea is to change the laws to suit them
Iam muslim and am irish. Muslim is religion not country. 😂😂
If Britain doesn't stand behind the principal today, the future of all kids is lost...
Keep Religion out of schools. Concentrate on the 3 R's
Until we’re talking about Christian schools lmao
@@eisenhower163 pretty much. this is a christian country. the church of ENGLAND is christian. You seem shocked at this?
Christian schools in a Christian country is fine, just as Islamic schools in an Islamic country is fine - but as with SO MANY things, they are best kept apart!!!
@@lisah9561 just a bit of a double standard.
Instead of saying ‘keep religion out of schools’
It should be ‘keep every religion except Christianity out of schools’
Aka, not caring about the actual issue they’re pretending to and making exceptions for their favourite groups
I do hope that they have to pay all costs
WE the taxpayers paid as she received free legal
Legal Aid, £150,000. They always know how to take from the system.
@@toolate9494The one who approved the legal aid should be examined and held accountable.
@@jasonsccheung3831 probably same faith
And don’t think. for a moment they will have to pay , why this is (FKD) up Britain simple
Need heads like her in government
Muslim children and their parents are confusing religious education with actual education. Their academic achievements are woeful.
They are confused abut everything 😂😂😂
The only religion where people accept that there is such a thing as a 6 YEARS OLD WOMAN.
They're not confused. They are religious fascists. They are determined to force their religion on our secular society, because intolerant cults see people having freedom as a personal affront and an injury to their beliefs. It's like living with an abusive narcissistic partner. They are deeply threatened by your freedom, your independence, any way that you are different than them or disagree with them. If you don't act and think exactly the way they want, they feel like YOU are victimising THEM. That's why it's so important to call BS when Islamists say they are offended or hurt by people's different beliefs or lifestyles. It's a crybully religion.
Common sense prevailed, that’s a novelty.
All paid for by the Taxpayer.
There is method. This has set president and sent a very clear message.
@@Cardifftoyboy1 wont stop them pouring in though will it
Doyou pay tax? Clearly not if you have time to sit on UA-cam.
@@hmmmmm2634 clearly not???? How do you know???? You can't be on UA-cam after you finish your work??? Maybe have a day off... And anyway how is that your business??? Talk only to talk but not really saying anything.
Finally a judge with balls and common sense.
The law of the land must always take precedence over the rules of any belief system.
Our legal system is primarily based around the statement:
"I swear by almighty God...."
The entire legal and judicial system needs updating until it's fit for purpose.
The family should be forced to pay the legal fees 👎🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Definitely
Sadly, we'll need an army of brave people to stand up to the religious bullies ... but where are they to be found ?
The parents knew the schools rules but decided to try and get that overturned, they failed and the girl in question I have read is staying at the school to do her exams. So her religious freedom isn’t as important to them as she was saying is it?
You can guarantee the family were being used by some Islamic advocacy group to set a precedent only they did not get the result they wanted, personally I would expel the pupil in question for her own "religious" benefit.
Islam OUT
All religions out.
It literally says muslim not islam, be xenophobic thats fine but at least get it right
@@richardshortall5987Islamics?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Someone skipped school a lot eh Dickie
@@BatTaz19Christian nations can be Christian if they want to be, your fee fees mean nothing.
@@hmmmmm2634race card declined.
It's about time that these people found out that other have the right to say "NO" to them
Any Muslim who is required by their sect( Shiite in particular) to pray 5 times a day should send their children to an Islamic school of which there are examples in the UK, or at best, be taught by a cleric or the imam of the local mosque! State schools in this country should not have to be expected to cater for other religious beliefs regardless of the ethnic make up, this is still a predominantly Christian country and we don't shove our religion down other cultures throats, pray in your churches, temples, ashrams or mosques but not whilst at school or at work, unless as individual's you can make or take the time to do so and preferably during rest/meal breaks!
Absolutely.....ADAPT OR LEAVE
Exactly
Ponces
A muslim school in a muslim country
@@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak I agree, but there are Islamic schools in this country which is far better than having them forcing their ideology on us in our state schools!
It's an amazing school with great results that don't need to change. Great news!
Why should taxpayers pick up the.bill? They knew what they were signing up for when they registered at the school.
Exactly!
The cheeky cow has already got another of her kids down to attend next term!
Ever looked at the situation and see , just maybe a set up by the child’s parents complaining dismissed , so let’s toddle off to court and get a nice little pay off , just a thought .
You are joking these people take everything for free British people have to pay even just to look or breathe
Great job! make England great again! Muslims need to remember whos country this is
This was only ever a direct challenge by adherents of The Religion of Peace to the political and religious status quo here in the UK. I think they should move somewhere they would feel happier.
Prayer does not belong in a secular school; and the fact that there were threats against the Head and faculty should be a wake up call.
They will probably appeal and get a lefty judge to get their way
Are you american? Cause thats not how it works here
@@n0body550I think that’s exactly how it works
@@Alanhock75 Literally no!
People should start questioning why legal aid was provided for this case.
Who authorized it and on what ground ?
@@jasonsccheung3831 If you cannot afford a lawyer one will be appointed to you, you know as their fucking rights say they can
No religion in schools would be good. Plenty of time for religious folks to pray and attend their place of worship in their own time.
So glad for the amazing head mistress..,nice to see these people not get their own way as usual.. sensibilities prevailed
The most depressing thing about this story is that the school which is superbly run is 100% minority pupils. A truly sad reflection of modern Britain, especially the capital.
And how long do you think is that going to last? How long till all courts and judges are muslim? 10? 20 years?
Courts,judges,police chiefs,university heads,Council leaders,Mayors and just about everything that affects our lives.
This Parliament has enabled this and is continuing to do so.
Traitors every last one of them.
Exactly. They are forcing us out.
Don't be silly.
We will stop that happening
Voting for the right people in office especially the most sensitive areas.
Vote the mayor out.
🤣🤣🤣 profoundly dismayed... That's their arrogance! Good job Judge 🏴🇬🇧👊😎
If you give an inch, you'll soon turn into Indonesia.
Lebanon, l would suggest.. It used to be a reasonably prosperous Christian country. Tolerance can be a downfall.
Or Iran.
They can always educate at home 🏡 😅😊❤
Sue the parents for the court costs
Could someone please explain how the Hell this court case was funded by Legal Aid? Disgraceful waste of public money to help a religion’s followers impose their beliefs on others. Trying to defeat us with our own rules again!
I hope this common sense extends to protecting teachers currently in hiding.
And a bloody good job ! Enough is enough, these people are already pizzing all over the British people, im just surprised that they didn't get their own way, NO, take your ways and habits elsewhere.
If your not happy here or Australia,leave go to Palestine or even worse Iran
Even the Koran says they can only pray from a mosque for Allah to hear and answer them
At a cost to the British taxpayer of 150,000 Pounds in legal aid!!
Finally some common sense, she would have preferred a Sharia court. Why not let jews pray in mosques and see how they like that.
About time. Next is to stop the toxic people demanding to be called he them they etc. I'll call you by your name, that's it. I'm sick of people using fear as a weapon.
Let us hope that more schools will reinstate Christian Worship and Assemblies. We are after all, a Christian Country.
finally common sense and a fightback against a generation of entitled youngsters
"Your private religion doesn't conflate with school!"
I couldn't agree more. Does this mean we're going to start closing down all of the CoE and Catholic state schools? I remember forced prayer and hymns during assembly time, please tell me we're making that a thing of the past.
It can't have been inevitable or the mother bringing this wouldn't have been funded by legal aid. Would it?
Unsurprisingly Channel 4 news last night omitted the story.
I'm sure the alledged creator of the Universe won't be too upset that children at school have to wait to home time to 'catch up' on prayers.
If u dont like the school u are applying for then stay home and pray all you like and get your parents to educate you. For females shouldn't be a major issue as some Islamic countries don't feel females should be educated anyway
EXCELLENT!!!
Amazing how they come up with the money to take it to the high Court. Make you wonder who funds this
Christian religion in a Christian land 🙏✝️.
Not a Christian country any more.
they'll appeal it the fuckin chancers
I'll bet that it was not the pupil who brought the action but people with an agenda urging the parents on.
Common sense definitely prevailed indeed. Lets hope this will continue to prevail.
I'm assuming, they won't be paying. The legal fees 🤔🤔
If a Muslim has a parayer room in their house they don't have to pay council tax
Please don't spread fake news.
If you don't like it, send your children to a different school.
The school rules are the school's rules, until its primary reason is a faith school. I heard the reverse arguments. The Humanist Society have been arguing this way for as long as I can recall. .
If the children's demographics became lopsided, when do the school become exclusive.
people who allows our tax money to be spent in this way should be sacked!!!!
Think it’s very important to note that all other religions are banned here too!
If it was possible to put up a cartoon of Mohammed in every primary classroom in Australia I would.the problem here is the same as back home almost fed up to the back teeth of,Islam , Mohammed,Ramadan,and Palestine marches both the UK and Australia st themselves up a long time ago for what we have today
Brilliant sensible court result
Hopefully no more if this nonsense ..🎉
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They have to try and rule where ever they go. It’s about time they got stopped trying to push their religion onto us, and I bet it was all organised by the parents who knew that the school didn’t allow religion they were trying to use there usual tactics with threats and violence, but what will happen now ?
The pupils' parents should have put her in a secular school. Simples.
Bring back Christian payer and national anthem to your schools
It’s a test to see if they can get away with it, then it’ll be wanting Ramadan off, then changing the whole school menu to halal, then making everyone else pray etc
Common sense prevails.....at last!
But in another case a kid wanted to be a cat and took the school to court and won remember. If this continues and courts are used this way were people just rely on courts for basic stupid stuff our great courts will eventually lose credibility
Today crumbs be happy, 30 years from now,what will this land be?
Good. School is for learning NOT praying. If she wants to pray go down the mosque.
waste of time, country is lost already
This could also be the parent accommodating her daughter. Frightened to tell her daughter that she needs to keep the school rules. I am really glad the headteacher won the case and hopefully this will be a good example for any other rule breakers. If the mother was so concerned that her daughter was unable to practice her religion, she should have taken her out and sent her to an Islamic school
Acting like she cant pray home or out in the streets like they do sometimes. entitled behavior
Who funded the student?
Islam is a belief,nothing more nothing less PS not bothered if anybody,s feelings are hurt if you are call the feelings police
If they allow this then us catholics ,christians want the same .
It's open
There is nothing in the school rules that says that the child cannot silently say their prayers, in their own head, while they get on with their work.
I would put it out there that most teachers would not care if the child quietly MUTTERED their prayers in class as long as it wasn't disruptive to the class and the child still gets their school work done.
Hell, kids get breaks in the day. Why can't the child do their religious needs then? Say your prayers when you can. In YOUR time, that is what breaks are for.
The issue here is not religion per se... It is the disruption of the important task of educating kids to a satisfactory degree.
THAT is the point of the school and that is what should be guarded against at any cost.
If there is a disruption to that goal then it needs to be looked at.
If a child has an illness and needs to nip to the bathroom more often during the day then, so be it... But that child *WILL* be told that they MUST be quiet and consider other children.
Finally someone who actually has some sence, this is the UK try to remember that..
Yes common sense at last and not before time. The desire to appease Muslims by some in our society is getting nuts it is looking like a takeover bid. Respect goes two ways but at present it seems it is a one way street.
I definitely agree with you. The respect should go two ways. I'm sick of hearing the expression 'Islamaphobia' when we don't do what they want, yet if I say 'excuse me' to one of them when out shopping (for instance), they completely ignore me and refuse to move. I then hear them speaking English with their friends. I have even heard them tell each other (in English) that a non-religious person is worse than a Christian, don't speak to her. Religious or not, I'm still a person.
I agree with the decision and everything that the panelists said apart from one thing. One panelist said "As long as a rule is applied equally to every pupil then it's fair." That's not quite true because it's possible to have a rule that applies equally to everyone but discriminates against one group. Sadly, the world is full of cases where minorities have been unfairly treated by such rules, so it's a dangerous principle on which to judge fairness. A couple of extreme examples will illustrate this:
"No pupil is allowed to wear glasses" - discriminates against pupils with poor eyesight.
"No pupil is allowed to wear a turban" - discriminates against Sikhs.
In these examples, the majority of people are unaffected by the rule - yes, the first one is silly, but I'm just illustrating a principle. And I repeat, I agree with the decision and think that religion should have no place in schools.
It is only a victory for the devil and he is already celebrating it with his fellow angels!
I have my own beliefs in religion. What is so wrong with that? I do not want anyone imposing their beliefs on me. This is a secular country where we are all supposed to respect. I have no clue about the muslim religion and dont want to know as i have my own religion and beliefs.
Imagine if this was a Christian. Oh wait...
Lawyers win again the law is corrupt
Great comments. Also remember that Islam demands the right to obedience to Islam and their view is that everyone must comply. Oppressive ….
Hope folk have seen the strip of fabric schoolgirls call a skirt these days. That should be dealt with asap. The fact that no one has ever mentioned this is scary.
The Greta thunberg of Islam
How can you compare identifying as a cat to the opposing gender?
Why am I constantly reminded that people don't respect me in the country for literally existing.
This video wasn't even about trans rights 😅
May the Europe remember jesus christ ✝️
Living in a free society with religious crybullies is like living with an ab*sive partner. Any freedom you have to disagree or be different, they will twist into something that's "hurting them" or "violating their rights". That's why standing up to them is so important. Better yet, don't let them into your life/society in the first place.
Why send your child to a non-religious school if you want them to practice their faith at school? They knew what they were signing up for. Equality for everyone. Respect for the individual. Good for the school for sticking to it's principles. If you want to practice your faith at school, go to a faith school. Practicing prayer at a non-religious school is not practicing respect for others. Keep your religion to yourself and stop trying to dominate others lives.
They can still follow their religion.... they just can't impose it on others. Also this doesn't seem to target any one religion, the ban affect any that pray..... so it isn't discriminatory. And it's intentions are to focus the kids on their education and not on bullying. If they want to go to a religious school they also exist but state funded schools try to keep religion out of education unless it IS being Studied in religious education Studies
Do not give in to them. They only intimidate people please stand your grounds always. Thanks to the judge. They should go to muslim country. Who forced them to come here?
These people are not victim minorities. They are religious f*scists. They are determined to force their religion on our secular society, because intolerant cults see people having freedom as a personal affront and an injury to their beliefs.
It's like living with an ab*sive narcissistic partner. They are deeply threatened by your freedom, your independence, any way that you are different than them or disagree with them. If you don't act and think exactly the way they want, they feel like YOU are victimising THEM.
That's why it's so important to call BS when Islamists say they are offended or hurt by people's different beliefs or lifestyles. It's a crybully religion.
My muslim friends why don't you home school your children if you feel so strongly about it? or use the mosques as schools stand for what you believe in
Make no mistake, these Muslim students and parents aren't victim minorities. They are religious fascists. They are determined to force their religion on our secular society, because intolerant cults see people having freedom as a personal affront and an injury to their beliefs.
It's like living with an abusive narcissistic partner. They are deeply threatened by your freedom, your independence, any way that you are different than them or disagree with them. If you don't act and think exactly the way they want, they feel like YOU are victimising THEM. That's why it's so important to call BS when Islamists say they are offended or hurt by people's different beliefs or lifestyles. It's a crybully religion.
so you agree, your private religion of christianity should also stay out of schools?
You want Muslim prayer 5 times a day, attend an Islamic school.
When the baphomet 🏳️🌈 religion has been pushed all over the shop i think its a bit rich moaning on this one!
Bring God back into schools ✝️
Mohammed is a belief,the same as I think Collingwood might win at the weekend