I dont think Dravens lategame is bad...I mean yes he is hard to play positioning wise in teamfights...still at five or six items he does a f*k ton of damage. but of course early snowballing is the best way to win with him...since his damage lead is unreal when snowballing into the midgame. And falling behind early he really does feel pretty useless
Don’t go presences of mind if you are going ER, triumph is just better for resetting, also with tank meta you are probably going to need LDR, meta builds are stupid, you should build based on what the enemy team has
Have rather dumb question: I have seen some pros going kraken slayer first bloodthirster second even vs non tankier comps. Is KS the most optimal dps item first choice atm?
The reason why draven gets a multi kill on minute 9 isn’t because “he has axes”, it’s because both enemy jg and adc let janna live, if the support dies the fight would have gone much differently. Also draven only has 1 axe for most the fight, and he drops his axes before hitting the wave. Janna hits good cc and shields draven from dmg to extend the trade long enough for him to almost get a triple. Also the reason why they go baron isn’t only because they “killed 2 players” they killed graves (their jg).
Many things he said we’re simply not true. So for example Janna Draven is actually one of best combos since Janna offer insane amount of safety and peel for Draven, secondly - Dravens late game is more then optimal. If you’re not 0/5 it’s quite easy to scale and even full build you can 1v1 90% of ADCs since you can usually three tap them.
Very good video, i was looking for the new best build on Draven ! I understand that ER/IE/Shieldbow is a good combo but you lack anti tank unlike the previous 3rd item Lord dominik build, that's probably why guf is taking cut down. I feel like BT/IE/Kraken is providing the best all around stats but it lacks early power and this is Draven's identity... Very difficult choices, the champion is good with early power so essence reaver and serrated dirk are insane, but you also need lifesteal and you now need crit to play IE. Can't choose everything !
for sure this lol, depending on how much damage the other team can do/mainly tanks dictates what i buy after ie, if tankier i lean to kraken LDR or vice versa. Otherwise if theyre high dps i go shieldbow/BT since im gonna die much quicker without it most of the time.
@@BrokecaR34JC Bro i just play like sally's Draven, rush Kraken with first item vampiric scepter if i feel like it, then BT/IE. Noonquiver and Kraken with Lethal Tempo has way more DPS than serrated dirk essence reaver in lane, you can run down the ennemy bot lane as soon as they make a mistake with this. vampiric scepter allows you to get infinite trades + free wave management. SD+ER only has burst damage for short trades in lane, but Draven loses short trades. + You don't even have mana issues with Draven ! I never had 1v5 moments until i played this build, and attack speed + lifesteal is the most skilled stats combination in the game, so if you want to show off your talent then pick the right stats ! This build is clearly the best and has a response for every comp. People will realize it sooner or later.
true man, i miss the statik, now the new items are so bad for draven, no more critic build anymore, they move slow and the attack speed is slow... compared whit old seasons
Question. Why you suggest the atk speed item over Domik? Late game alwais has beefy enemies to face off and if u get stuff like Mundo against, you'd want Dominik. BOTRK and anti-heal.
If they have alot of armor you need armor pen, but sometimes the enemy does not have much, or the team comp is such that you probably won't be hitting the frontline primarily. So maybe you itemize for the specific situation. Not sure what the enemies items were... in this case Draven already had BOTRK from the early game.
good guide though i wish you went through items and what he chose through out the video i know it sounds troll but i think navouri can actually be good on draven with hyper attack speed because he gains so much stats from his q alone and his w you could have a million axes in the air and never worry about picking them up really
@@SwoffXD lol bronze? you know blue ez was made by a silver player and it was the meta build on him for many years straight? so that statement is laughable
@@SkitZHitZ exceptions dont change the truth. You are not that person , even with 100 ability haste draven's q cooldown is about 4 cd and except bronze people won attack you straight and let you do 12 spinning axe on the air
@@SwoffXD quick blades and ability haste is two different things. every crit you do you are basically reducing it by a single second with enough attack speed you can do multiple autos in a single second. well that comes down to position and knowing when to fight and when not to id say?
draven navori makes it so you don't need to catch axes. Now, with the new navori passive, 20% also works on the damage on Q of draven as it is still connected to a spell. (wacky programming). the total damage on aram is 1318 on minions vs 1255 on full build in video. (the 1318 includes phantom dancer stats which does not have much ad) so it evens out aa damage wise + added kiting and e+r damage.
Saying that janna is a passive enchanter, that doesnt match with draven is a complete sin. Analyze Ap0, best janna in the world you will understand that janna is an agressive engage poke devil, he got rank 1 EUW with almost 70% w/r.
The part where this idiot says look at the kiting is literally irelia missing stun, which would force draven clense, cause if not he dies to velkos ult+irelia engage, then it just draven trying to rush down when the whole team groups to flip, then draven misses E timing on stopwatched zoe.
yeah well he played against azzapp here so obviously he wins. winning a 5v4 is normal. just sad that they fell behind in that situation in the first place
This guide felt extremly useless watched for 7 minute straight and all he did was comment on a challangers match with draven the only good things I found was to farm cs and wait for fights instead of chasing them I would have loved to see the draven items and explained why they were purchased since idk if i should go bf early and then get essence reaver or if i should get essence first and what items are useful for draven depending on the match up or how to trade in lane.
I dont think Dravens lategame is bad...I mean yes he is hard to play positioning wise in teamfights...still at five or six items he does a f*k ton of damage. but of course early snowballing is the best way to win with him...since his damage lead is unreal when snowballing into the midgame. And falling behind early he really does feel pretty useless
It’s hard if your team lacks frontlane
Every adc at that point outdps draven... Cait, vayne, trist, kaisa all do more dmg at 6 items because of highers dps and it's easier to do dmg
Love the Sylas just stopping and pinging the minion he took at 1:25.
Don’t go presences of mind if you are going ER, triumph is just better for resetting, also with tank meta you are probably going to need LDR, meta builds are stupid, you should build based on what the enemy team has
so question : besides naut and pyke who would be a good supp? how is say, soraka or leona?
naut pyke thresh leona rell rakan for the engage, lane is ok with nami janna for the dmg buff and bit of peeling they are giving
best sup for droban is nunu and his companion william. fite me
inshallah brother
Have rather dumb question: I have seen some pros going kraken slayer first bloodthirster second even vs non tankier comps. Is KS the most optimal dps item first choice atm?
The reason why draven gets a multi kill on minute 9 isn’t because “he has axes”, it’s because both enemy jg and adc let janna live, if the support dies the fight would have gone much differently. Also draven only has 1 axe for most the fight, and he drops his axes before hitting the wave. Janna hits good cc and shields draven from dmg to extend the trade long enough for him to almost get a triple. Also the reason why they go baron isn’t only because they “killed 2 players” they killed graves (their jg).
Many things he said we’re simply not true. So for example Janna Draven is actually one of best combos since Janna offer insane amount of safety and peel for Draven, secondly - Dravens late game is more then optimal. If you’re not 0/5 it’s quite easy to scale and even full build you can 1v1 90% of ADCs since you can usually three tap them.
Fk Janna and supports like her, give me a tank with good engage
I think he meant to say that in this example, Janna wasn't playing great for Draven to work with.
Very good video, i was looking for the new best build on Draven ! I understand that ER/IE/Shieldbow is a good combo but you lack anti tank unlike the previous 3rd item Lord dominik build, that's probably why guf is taking cut down. I feel like BT/IE/Kraken is providing the best all around stats but it lacks early power and this is Draven's identity... Very difficult choices, the champion is good with early power so essence reaver and serrated dirk are insane, but you also need lifesteal and you now need crit to play IE. Can't choose everything !
for sure this lol, depending on how much damage the other team can do/mainly tanks dictates what i buy after ie, if tankier i lean to kraken LDR or vice versa. Otherwise if theyre high dps i go shieldbow/BT since im gonna die much quicker without it most of the time.
@@BrokecaR34JC Bro i just play like sally's Draven, rush Kraken with first item vampiric scepter if i feel like it, then BT/IE. Noonquiver and Kraken with Lethal Tempo has way more DPS than serrated dirk essence reaver in lane, you can run down the ennemy bot lane as soon as they make a mistake with this. vampiric scepter allows you to get infinite trades + free wave management. SD+ER only has burst damage for short trades in lane, but Draven loses short trades. + You don't even have mana issues with Draven ! I never had 1v5 moments until i played this build, and attack speed + lifesteal is the most skilled stats combination in the game, so if you want to show off your talent then pick the right stats ! This build is clearly the best and has a response for every comp. People will realize it sooner or later.
@@Jules-ko8beThat's interesting, I've gotta test that out some time.
There's no reward anymore for playing draven. You playing draven "very good" is equal to a mediocre Caitlyn.
pride of winning against braindead ooga booga adcs is all i need
Nah the insane sensatjon of power when you snowball out of control is too good to pass up
true man, i miss the statik, now the new items are so bad for draven, no more critic build anymore, they move slow and the attack speed is slow... compared whit old seasons
No
@@Nico-ud3wr bt>ie>kraken/gale isnt fast for u?
Thank you for the video, but I can't find Guf's profile anymore.
I had a longer post typed out, but instead ill just say that in my experience, Jhin can give you draven damage without draven drawbacks.
Question. Why you suggest the atk speed item over Domik? Late game alwais has beefy enemies to face off and if u get stuff like Mundo against, you'd want Dominik. BOTRK and anti-heal.
If they have alot of armor you need armor pen, but sometimes the enemy does not have much, or the team comp is such that you probably won't be hitting the frontline primarily. So maybe you itemize for the specific situation. Not sure what the enemies items were... in this case Draven already had BOTRK from the early game.
Janna is litterally the best support for Draven he doubles the damage she gives with her shield.
nah
The best 🙄 cmon man
Draven just needs peel/cc he has enough damage
yer enchanters are best with draven this guy doesnt have a clue tbh
Renata seems to be really good with him. i wouldnt say janna is the best but shes not the worst
@@ohsoleohmio You're flat wrong.
Do you still go dirk first then sell it or should you just avoid it?
I think er > ie rush now, maybe bf sword first
I loved this new aspect exhibitions.
Very helpful tips and tricks for draven players who are struggling 😅
good guide
though i wish you went through items and what he chose through out the video
i know it sounds troll but i think navouri can actually be good on draven with hyper attack speed
because he gains so much stats from his q alone and his w
you could have a million axes in the air and never worry about picking them up really
wow what a bronz player idea.
@@SwoffXD lol bronze?
you know blue ez was made by a silver player and it was the meta build on him for many years straight?
so that statement is laughable
@@SkitZHitZ exceptions dont change the truth. You are not that person , even with 100 ability haste draven's q cooldown is about 4 cd and except bronze people won attack you straight and let you do 12 spinning axe on the air
@@SwoffXD quick blades and ability
haste is two different things. every crit you do you are basically reducing it by a single second with enough attack speed you can do multiple autos in a single second.
well that comes down to position and knowing when to fight and when not to id say?
@@SkitZHitZ please give me your discord and stream while you are trying that shit
I always get CCD when I play this dude
draven navori makes it so you don't need to catch axes. Now, with the new navori passive, 20% also works on the damage on Q of draven as it is still connected to a spell. (wacky programming). the total damage on aram is 1318 on minions vs 1255 on full build in video. (the 1318 includes phantom dancer stats which does not have much ad) so it evens out aa damage wise + added kiting and e+r damage.
Droben halal
need an update on the items with the new patch XD
Saying that janna is a passive enchanter, that doesnt match with draven is a complete sin. Analyze Ap0, best janna in the world you will understand that janna is an agressive engage poke devil, he got rank 1 EUW with almost 70% w/r.
Hes all about movement
The part where this idiot says look at the kiting is literally irelia missing stun, which would force draven clense, cause if not he dies to velkos ult+irelia engage, then it just draven trying to rush down when the whole team groups to flip, then draven misses E timing on stopwatched zoe.
janna kinda is an all in support in lane.
yeah well he played against azzapp here so obviously he wins. winning a 5v4 is normal. just sad that they fell behind in that situation in the first place
not sure why all picking treasure hunter its usuless
Hurr durr
Janna is good sup for draven wdym
This guide felt extremly useless watched for 7 minute straight and all he did was comment on a challangers match with draven the only good things I found was to farm cs and wait for fights instead of chasing them I would have loved to see the draven items and explained why they were purchased since idk if i should go bf early and then get essence reaver or if i should get essence first and what items are useful for draven depending on the match up or how to trade in lane.
Theres ma boi
Worst Draven “guide” I’ve seen In a while from someone who probably never played Draven so just says stuff from Wikipedia
Gg irelia bronze dog, using stuns when it doesn't matter and when it matters she misses
how is this a draven guide? you're just doing commentary on a game, there is no valuable information to find here like wtf
Draven is so shit rn, he NEEDS a rework to his kit as it is over 9 YEARS OLD. 9, yes 9.
Delusional
I think he is balanced, and his kit is fine but I like older champs
true man now is useless, the items are a sht, the runes pffff, and randoms sups picking lux or xerath doenst help