Thanks! It was a blast! Indeed. Sometimes we just gotta do what the customer wants. No matter what you tell them they know what they want and if you don't do it, they'll just get someone else to do it. I imagine it'll survive 😅
Thanks for taking us along! For me a four hour drive is better than waiting for something to come to me any day. Glad we don't have much ivy on residential trees round here though!
Nice video as always! I use a version of the square cut and i have found, and of course this is situational as are all things tree, that if you hold up the limb with your free hand while making the top cut you can usually land them pretty flat. Obviously not with the super heavy ones or if it doesn’t work position wise but just a little thing I do wanted to share. Cheers keep up the content!
Thanks for sharing that thought. I've definitely had success in flipping logs as you've described. I kinda got uncomfortable with how close my left hand often ends up to the saw and so I stopped doing it. I need that hand more than than I need to get done early 😅
I did do that with some of the bigger, more vertical wood when I had a big saw up there. It also comes with some added risk that I prefer to avoid in many scenarios. On heavily weighted horizontal limbs I find is worth taking the time to make a notch to reduce the risk of it peeling back into my lanyard. I'll do it on small stuff though 🤷♂️
@@zaccheus yeah that’s why you cut it off after it peels away from where you want it real fast. And maybe the elms where I’m from act different then y’all’s. Idk
4 hour drive is quite the commute. Amazed you had energy to think straight up in the tree. Glad to hear you did not go home that night and got two days work out of the journey. They must have made it worth your while to travel that far. Keep up the great work and videos.
Haha, it was quite a bit farther than I normally go. I definitely don't want to make a practice of driving that far, but for a couple days or work in the winter time it was worth it.
@@zaccheus I know I don’t do this professionally, but I find winter a great time to work in my trees. With the leaves gone it’s so much easier see and move around. And I don’t have to worry about heat exhaustion that comes with the hot humid summers here near DC. I guess people just don’t think to prune their trees in winter.
@@CoolGen10 I can agree with that! I prefer climbing in cooler weather. Seems like folks just aren't out looking at their trees this time of the year. Some trees can only be trimmed in the winter to prevent disease
@@zaccheus when you have to drive that far do they pay extra for that? 8 hours round trip is a lot of fuel. I know my work has dried up starting in December. That's why I might consider doing some contract climbing locally when it's slow.
@@Billster1955 Excellent question! For a long trip like that, I charge per mile. I don't go that far very often, but when the right opportunity comes up, I'll do it if I need work 🤷♂️
Yeah! And there were some other trees in the area thay had it up a good way too. I think going even just that far south meant a little longer growing season which might have played a part. They had tree species down there that we don't have here.
I have started using shorter rope for a shorter distance. Bring the remaining rope up with you, because the Limb that you drop may, and will at times, wrap around the rope that is hanging from you.. Besides that , great job and stay safe ...
Thanks! I have had that happen and it's not fun. Do you have a good way to keep it up there with you? It's important to me to maintain a reope egress to the ground especially while cutting with the saw. The best thing I've found so far is to have a groundie tuck it out of the way so its not hanging directly below me. That way I can still get down fast if I need to.
Stihl fast caps; PULL the turner BEfore you push it down If they false lock they will continue due to you deteriorating them over and over because you are failing to seat them. The oils false lock all the time. And NEVER use aftermarket.
Do u always prune trees with spikes? Or were u just using them because u were taking whole lead? Also instead of taking whole leads to you ever go out to the tips and just prUNE A little off the tree?
No, I rarely use spikes for pruning. I'd eve say that when following proper pruning practices, there is never an opportunity to use spikes. On this tree we were removing whole leads so it would have been rather wasteful to leave the spikes on the ground. I was very careful to not spike parts of the tree that we weren't removing. And yes, that would have been a much more sustainable way to trim the tree and its what I would have recommended should I have had the appropriate opportunity. Thanks for asking about those things 😊
I,ve never actually done it. I don't think it was done for the job I was on in this video 😬 but I believe you'd call city hall and maybe start in the permits department. I think it requires a permit to close a road in some cities. Probably the county if your out of city limits. Probably the state if it's a state route. That'd be expensive though
And it's nice to have a crane I guess man we still load everything by hand can you believe that I'm telling you the truth we have no machine at all to load anything cut and load by hand I'm hoping to take over in the next year or two at the most the first thing I am getting is a skid steer a little dingo
Oh man! That's so much work. I did that for the first year when I first got started. It was super hard to be competitive on big trees. I would rent a dingo when we had a big job, but then I was paying a bunch of money out in rent all the time. You might remember that I used to have a kubota tractor with a branch manager grapple on it. It wasn't as capable as a dingo, but it was about half the price, and it was nice on yards. It sure beat dragging by hand and lifting wood.
@Eric Harris That's what I've heard. I have a friend waiting on a MT100 and he has a few moth wait. I think Boxer had a 2 year wait on some of their stuff when he checked with them.
I'm a climber myself been climbing over 15 years..im 33 now and I gotta say man you have a great personality and you have great people skills.. I slack on that I hate communication Im not much of a people person.. and it sucks but anyway good video and good vibes 🤙
Man, I appreciate that, it means a lot. I used to struggle with people skills a lot too I had a really hard time see others' perspective and being patient with them. It's taken a lot of growth to become a reasonable person to work with. I'd say the biggest factor was the people around me. Sometimes you get to choose who they are and sometimes you don't. The folks who help you grow are the ones you want to keep around.
I haven't contrsct climbed yet, but last year two local tree services asked me if I was interested in climbing for them. At the time I wasn't ready to ND was just working solo for myself. How much to contract climbers typically make per hour?
What @NightFighter said is on point. It depends on two main things. One is what the area will pay. My area has quite a saturation of climbers and so competition is pretty tough. The other part is how good/safe you are and what you bring to the table. I bring and extra helmet with Sena coms on it, a GRCS and drill, several rigging ropes and blocks, a porta wrap, all my own saws and fuel/oil, crane tie in point, speedline stuff, literally everything. My client doesn't have to bring anything but a rake and a saw. I started contract climbing for $300/day last year which was pretty cheap, but a good place to start until had some clients that knew I was worth more.
@@zaccheus thank you for taking time to answer my question. Climbers must be hard to find in NW Indiana. I'm 67 years old and they want to hire me. I'm not the fastest climber, but I sure do enjoy the challenge. I like how honest you are in your videos. If you make a cut and the limb doesn't land how you hoped, you point it out. Thanks for keeping it real.
Thanks, Carlo! I think wire core lanyard have their place. I just don't do a ton of spar work and so I'm willing to take a little extra risk on cutting my lanyard. I did climb this tree with spikes, but if we are being honest, it wasn't really a proper pruning job. I normally don't wear spikes for pruning and if I do, I only spike wood that is getting removed from the tree.
Welcome to Cincinnati at least the old part every house sits on top of each other, powerlines everywhere, and just stupidly huge trees with no room to do much
Haha I did notice that a lot of the area was like that 😂 I filmed the second day i was there too and it was a little bigger and had more room to work with 😅
I try my best. I certainly don't have a perfect record, but I hate when others bring the mood down and so I try really hard to avoid doing that myself.
@Zaccheus I live about 30 minutes from Cincinnati I thought that was ohio a couple of the houses looked familiar to me it's nice to watch some tree work in the state I am in .
🤷♂️ he definitely has had some business success. Either that or he had a bunch if big loans 😅 but based on what he told me, it seemed like they were doing okay.
And the tree that you took all the Big leaders off of was that the homeowners tree you were working for or the neighbor's tree because if it was a homeowner's tree you were working for he put all that weight onto the neighbors side that was horrible to do that tree could have been trimmed so much different and been way more better off I know it's not your call Buddy I understand that 100% God bless
Haha, thanks for understanding. We were working for the fella who owned the tree. I might not have captured it real well with the camera, but it had been heavily trimmed on the other side already. It still wasn't balanced when we left, but I think it was maybe a little bit better 🤷♂️ either way. The customer wanted impossible things. The tree really ought to come down.
Come on man rig it you talking about not wanting to hit things but you hit it anyway lol I know your a good climber I watch your vids. Don't take so many short cuts just to save time. I mean unless the boss says fuck it go for it he doesn't care then by all means hit everything
That's pretty much what he said 🤷♂️ I hate free falling stuff. I'm not great at landing things flat because I don't do it very often. Rigging is my preference, but when I show up to a job that was bid as a chop and drop, I kinda gotta do it like that. I don't remember hitting anything though, other than the end of the logs on the grass 🤦♂️ did I hit something?
Thanks man! It's just got a bark box on it. Chain is just a regular, round file yellow stihl yellow chain. I think I might have the rakers a smidge low. Like maybe .030 rather than the normal .025
I like the way you explain everything, including mistakes. Very candid!
Thanks man. It's all about learning in my mind. Mistakes are opportunities that can't be wasted.
Why I'm watching this stuff when a six foot ladder makes me woozie! Great work💯
Haha thanks!
Great video man! thanks for coming out.
Hopefully that tree does alright.
Thanks! It was a blast!
Indeed. Sometimes we just gotta do what the customer wants. No matter what you tell them they know what they want and if you don't do it, they'll just get someone else to do it. I imagine it'll survive 😅
This video is ducking awesome thanks for explaining the cuts , love it went that box cut works on wood so satisfying, stay safe brothwr
Thanks man!
Thanks for taking us along! For me a four hour drive is better than waiting for something to come to me any day. Glad we don't have much ivy on residential trees round here though!
I totally agree. Travel work isn't my favorite, but I like it better than sitting at home. Where are you located?
@@zaccheus
Central Illinois, unfortunately lol.
To much family to relocate for a while.
@@mattrybacki189 ah, important to take care of those folks 🤙
Nice video as always! I use a version of the square cut and i have found, and of course this is situational as are all things tree, that if you hold up the limb with your free hand while making the top cut you can usually land them pretty flat. Obviously not with the super heavy ones or if it doesn’t work position wise but just a little thing I do wanted to share. Cheers keep up the content!
Thanks for sharing that thought. I've definitely had success in flipping logs as you've described. I kinda got uncomfortable with how close my left hand often ends up to the saw and so I stopped doing it. I need that hand more than than I need to get done early 😅
Peeling works really good to swing stuff under too instead of notching it. You can peel it then cut it off really fast at the end.
I did do that with some of the bigger, more vertical wood when I had a big saw up there. It also comes with some added risk that I prefer to avoid in many scenarios. On heavily weighted horizontal limbs I find is worth taking the time to make a notch to reduce the risk of it peeling back into my lanyard. I'll do it on small stuff though 🤷♂️
Depends on the tree....
@Drinogor Drummer Yeah, that's true aswell. I have been suprised sometimes though.
@@zaccheus yeah that’s why you cut it off after it peels away from where you want it real fast. And maybe the elms where I’m from act different then y’all’s. Idk
@Opie Taylor Yeah, that works in some scenarios. I still don't like it for heavy weighted horizontal limbs, but for wood and such it works
4 hour drive is quite the commute. Amazed you had energy to think straight up in the tree. Glad to hear you did not go home that night and got two days work out of the journey. They must have made it worth your while to travel that far. Keep up the great work and videos.
Haha, it was quite a bit farther than I normally go. I definitely don't want to make a practice of driving that far, but for a couple days or work in the winter time it was worth it.
@@zaccheus I know I don’t do this professionally, but I find winter a great time to work in my trees. With the leaves gone it’s so much easier see and move around. And I don’t have to worry about heat exhaustion that comes with the hot humid summers here near DC. I guess people just don’t think to prune their trees in winter.
@@CoolGen10 I can agree with that! I prefer climbing in cooler weather. Seems like folks just aren't out looking at their trees this time of the year. Some trees can only be trimmed in the winter to prevent disease
@@zaccheus when you have to drive that far do they pay extra for that? 8 hours round trip is a lot of fuel. I know my work has dried up starting in December. That's why I might consider doing some contract climbing locally when it's slow.
@@Billster1955 Excellent question! For a long trip like that, I charge per mile. I don't go that far very often, but when the right opportunity comes up, I'll do it if I need work 🤷♂️
Enjoy your videos. Got your channel info from Spencer's channel. Hello from North Carolina.
Hey Steve, thanks for stopping by!
Enjoyed the video.
That's one of the viniest trees I've seen...especially that high up in the canopy
Yeah! And there were some other trees in the area thay had it up a good way too. I think going even just that far south meant a little longer growing season which might have played a part. They had tree species down there that we don't have here.
Nice work Buddy as always God bless
Thanks Bill!
Beautiful!!!!!!😲🪓🌲🪵🤠🤙🤙👍Nice 😊
Thanks Leonard!
@@zaccheus 🤠👍🤙👌👌
Twas a good one! Ur getting good at this UA-cam thing lol
Lol, thanks Felicia, that's mighty kind of you to say 😊
Looked like fun! Thanks for hanging out!
Haha you bet! It was a pleasure
Making it look easy! 👍🏽
Haha thanks Jose!
I have started using shorter rope for a shorter distance.
Bring the remaining rope up with you, because the Limb that you drop may, and will at times, wrap around the rope that is hanging from you..
Besides that , great job and stay safe ...
Thanks! I have had that happen and it's not fun. Do you have a good way to keep it up there with you? It's important to me to maintain a reope egress to the ground especially while cutting with the saw. The best thing I've found so far is to have a groundie tuck it out of the way so its not hanging directly below me. That way I can still get down fast if I need to.
Stihl fast caps; PULL the turner BEfore you push it down
If they false lock they will continue due to you deteriorating them over and over because you are failing to seat them. The oils false lock all the time. And NEVER use aftermarket.
I'll never complain again about having to drive an hour to contact climb.
Haha, an hour is my normal limit. I took this job because he had a couple days of work for me and I needed something to do!
Do u always prune trees with spikes? Or were u just using them because u were taking whole lead? Also instead of taking whole leads to you ever go out to the tips and just prUNE A little off the tree?
No, I rarely use spikes for pruning. I'd eve say that when following proper pruning practices, there is never an opportunity to use spikes. On this tree we were removing whole leads so it would have been rather wasteful to leave the spikes on the ground. I was very careful to not spike parts of the tree that we weren't removing. And yes, that would have been a much more sustainable way to trim the tree and its what I would have recommended should I have had the appropriate opportunity.
Thanks for asking about those things 😊
Im sure it is different everywhere but in your experience, who do you contact to close down the road? The road commission?
I,ve never actually done it. I don't think it was done for the job I was on in this video 😬 but I believe you'd call city hall and maybe start in the permits department. I think it requires a permit to close a road in some cities. Probably the county if your out of city limits. Probably the state if it's a state route. That'd be expensive though
Great video please do just like this
Thanks Riley!
Nice job hard trees to climb ive don a tun of jobs in that neighbor hood very tight work area usualy giant oaks or dead ash
Ah, that sounds it it would be quite a challenge.
Nice job.
Stay safe
Thanks Rick!
And it's nice to have a crane I guess man we still load everything by hand can you believe that I'm telling you the truth we have no machine at all to load anything cut and load by hand I'm hoping to take over in the next year or two at the most the first thing I am getting is a skid steer a little dingo
Oh man! That's so much work. I did that for the first year when I first got started. It was super hard to be competitive on big trees. I would rent a dingo when we had a big job, but then I was paying a bunch of money out in rent all the time. You might remember that I used to have a kubota tractor with a branch manager grapple on it. It wasn't as capable as a dingo, but it was about half the price, and it was nice on yards. It sure beat dragging by hand and lifting wood.
Them miniskids are hard to find right now.
@Eric Harris That's what I've heard. I have a friend waiting on a MT100 and he has a few moth wait. I think Boxer had a 2 year wait on some of their stuff when he checked with them.
@@zaccheus oh I remember buddy it seems like everything is hard to find now it's crazy
I'm a climber myself been climbing over 15 years..im 33 now and I gotta say man you have a great personality and you have great people skills.. I slack on that I hate communication Im not much of a people person.. and it sucks but anyway good video and good vibes 🤙
Man, I appreciate that, it means a lot. I used to struggle with people skills a lot too I had a really hard time see others' perspective and being patient with them. It's taken a lot of growth to become a reasonable person to work with. I'd say the biggest factor was the people around me. Sometimes you get to choose who they are and sometimes you don't. The folks who help you grow are the ones you want to keep around.
I haven't contrsct climbed yet, but last year two local tree services asked me if I was interested in climbing for them. At the time I wasn't ready to ND was just working solo for myself. How much to contract climbers typically make per hour?
You come up with your own pay rate. Depends on where you live what rates people are willing to accept though. Maybe.
You can charge 100 per hour or 400 a day or whatever you want
@@nightfighter7452 thank you
What @NightFighter said is on point. It depends on two main things. One is what the area will pay. My area has quite a saturation of climbers and so competition is pretty tough. The other part is how good/safe you are and what you bring to the table. I bring and extra helmet with Sena coms on it, a GRCS and drill, several rigging ropes and blocks, a porta wrap, all my own saws and fuel/oil, crane tie in point, speedline stuff, literally everything. My client doesn't have to bring anything but a rake and a saw. I started contract climbing for $300/day last year which was pretty cheap, but a good place to start until had some clients that knew I was worth more.
@@zaccheus thank you for taking time to answer my question. Climbers must be hard to find in NW Indiana. I'm 67 years old and they want to hire me. I'm not the fastest climber, but I sure do enjoy the challenge. I like how honest you are in your videos. If you make a cut and the limb doesn't land how you hoped, you point it out. Thanks for keeping it real.
Nice work brother.. You're not a fan of using wire core lanyards... And do you use your spikes a lot on prune jobs..😁😁
Thanks, Carlo!
I think wire core lanyard have their place. I just don't do a ton of spar work and so I'm willing to take a little extra risk on cutting my lanyard.
I did climb this tree with spikes, but if we are being honest, it wasn't really a proper pruning job. I normally don't wear spikes for pruning and if I do, I only spike wood that is getting removed from the tree.
@@zaccheus Thanks again brother... I've been a subscriber from the beginning... I never stop learning. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍
@Carlo Bernardi Thanks, Carlo. I always appreciate your comments!
Welcome to Cincinnati at least the old part every house sits on top of each other, powerlines everywhere, and just stupidly huge trees with no room to do much
Haha I did notice that a lot of the area was like that 😂 I filmed the second day i was there too and it was a little bigger and had more room to work with 😅
@@zaccheus when I get a huge one, I'll see if you want to come down.
@Jordan Hyde Yeah man! Sounds like fun!
Nice Work
Thanks!
You must be great to work with
I try my best. I certainly don't have a perfect record, but I hate when others bring the mood down and so I try really hard to avoid doing that myself.
Kevin Viola on the crane.
Oh to do know him? That's cool
I'd hire you
Thanks man, that means a lot!
Is that poison ivy?
No, no 😅 it was just english ivy. That would have been a terrible climb if it was poison ivy 🤮
That was a hog of a tree at the end lol
Haha, yeah it was! I wish I had been there for more of it.
Whut state are you in
I live in northeast Ohio
@Zaccheus I live about 30 minutes from Cincinnati I thought that was ohio a couple of the houses looked familiar to me it's nice to watch some tree work in the state I am in .
@Joe Hurley Oh cool! It was a nice little trip. I'm not a big city guy, but Cincinnati seemed pretty alright!
The guy your working for seems like a goober
🤷♂️ he definitely has had some business success. Either that or he had a bunch if big loans 😅 but based on what he told me, it seemed like they were doing okay.
And the tree that you took all the Big leaders off of was that the homeowners tree you were working for or the neighbor's tree because if it was a homeowner's tree you were working for he put all that weight onto the neighbors side that was horrible to do that tree could have been trimmed so much different and been way more better off I know it's not your call Buddy I understand that 100% God bless
Haha, thanks for understanding. We were working for the fella who owned the tree. I might not have captured it real well with the camera, but it had been heavily trimmed on the other side already. It still wasn't balanced when we left, but I think it was maybe a little bit better 🤷♂️ either way. The customer wanted impossible things. The tree really ought to come down.
Come on man rig it you talking about not wanting to hit things but you hit it anyway lol I know your a good climber I watch your vids. Don't take so many short cuts just to save time. I mean unless the boss says fuck it go for it he doesn't care then by all means hit everything
That's pretty much what he said 🤷♂️ I hate free falling stuff. I'm not great at landing things flat because I don't do it very often. Rigging is my preference, but when I show up to a job that was bid as a chop and drop, I kinda gotta do it like that. I don't remember hitting anything though, other than the end of the logs on the grass 🤦♂️ did I hit something?
cut that thing down...People and their vine covered trees, I swear. Some days I really miss climbing, and some days, not...at...all.
Lol, Simon had cut the vines the last time he was there. So atleast they had lost their foliage 😅
That 500i rips. Any mods? Chain?
Thanks man! It's just got a bark box on it. Chain is just a regular, round file yellow stihl yellow chain. I think I might have the rakers a smidge low. Like maybe .030 rather than the normal .025