What is going on with Genji....
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Noice vid
Nana ana HAHAH
Glad to see you made it bro.
@@AntivenomOWThe person who was probably being an ass:
Remember when Genji was considered an “assassin” hero. Now you just sit back and hope for an opportunity to get a dash reset. Somehow, even with less tanks peeling, backlines survive stronger than ever before.
honestly hes been pretty bad since the nerf in season 1 of ow2 but the hp increases have just completely killed the character u can never solo kill anyone now unless the enemy is just completely braindead but ig hes usable in low elos so hes still not buffed lol
@@joeschipper2593to win a game as genji you have to be SO MUCH BETTER than the entire enemy team. Or you can swap cass and auto win. Clown game.
It doesn't help when a good ana/illari combo can just delete you mid-dash.
Isn't healing great
The fact that Genji continuously received unwarranted nerfs during the beginning of Overwatch 2 while Sojourn was deliberately left unchecked and OP for her entire lifespan is insane. These devs have a vendetta against projectile DPS and it's pretty damn obvious.
Soj is black that’s why
What's crazy to me is that they could bring back a lot of players if they would just make genji and mercy strong again. Like... it is what it is. No these heros aren't always fun to play against but they have been popular since launch for a *reason*. If Blizz really cared about the future success of ow, this is an obvious choice for the dev team (and bringing back 6v6 obv)
That’s what I was thinking. Characters like Genji and Venture (she got gutted off rip) get nerfed so hard. And yet bullshit characters like Soujourn and Kiriko get slaps on the wrist and continue to fucking ruin whatever game they’re in
Genji having a good meta for once? That’s a fucking issue. Kiri with her bullshit cleanse and get out of jail free card tp? nahhh it’s aight
@@chriss0266 6v6 was pure chaos if they bring it back they have to make it like a specific game mode
Genji can deflect a laser from a giant omnic but that power is not enough to fight the team 4 balance team
It's funny that he's deflecting a laser of all things
Bro can deflect a massive laser from an omnic yet can't reflect a mere Zarya beam
@@roxas13keyblade65 He wasn't deflecting a laser, he was deflecting a energy ball the size of a building
@@roxas13keyblade65 He wasn't deflecting a laser, he was deflecting a energy ball the size of a building
@@connor.chan.jazzman He wasn't deflecting a laser, he was deflecting a energy ball the size of a building
im convinced that the balance team cant play genji but hates being shitted on by him, so they just nerf him
junk Too 😕
Naw junk has always been a trash hero
Omg 1000% this man. Literally the source of all genji hate
@funnyvalentyne3029 nah he was just a hero where his viability in the meta was dependent on other heroes, like when he became like an A tier hero when Mauga released despite not getting touched balance wise
"genji is not worth the effort".. thats the best sentence in the whole video. U can play any other dps, and it feels ez mode to do preassure and be scary. Genji gets your 100% to be mid.
For me aiming with genji is really difficult
Im at a point where i want to fist fight these devs over the unfair treatment genji gets
I was playing yesterday and I said the same thing. I died to some bs and was ready to send a mean email to blizzard lol
The Shimadas are Shima-dead.
Except Kiriko, she's the new poster child.
They’re Shima-done
funny thing is Shi (し) can mean death (死) (same pronunciation) and Mada can mean not yet
so Genji Shimada isnt really living up to its name rn cause he's dead af 😔
The funny part is genji and hanzo both have mythics now that imply they are undead
Kiri still broken tho. Hanzo and genji do need help, Hambo especially
6:41 suzu ends this fight immediately lmfao
Exactly suzu didnt exist this is ow1 and genji felt good. He felt like you earned every kill but it was PAINSTAKINGLY DIFFICULT to get one kill as opposed to moria; she can throw an orb and hold fire and kill the majority of characters in less than 2-3 seconds 😭
Imagine being this cool cyber ninja with a badass sword just to get diffed by a UwU type petite girl with a pet fox that’s like a sister to you
@@emma6648 to make it worse, she's not even fighting you.
She dropped a fucking Onigiri, wished you luck and teleported away.
The fact Genji blade is a 3-hit but Cassidy can 2-tap someone with one headshot and one bodyshot is simply out to lunch. I have no idea what the balance team is doing, but it has left the game in a bad spot.
wait…CASSIDY AND HANZO HAVE THE SAME KILL REQUIREMENTS?
oh boy am i happy I do not play anymore!
Mei/sombra/venture/sym, need to be buffed
Not to mention it’s so easy to headshot now
@@saudmubarak1542 venture and sombra buff?.... sure bro sure
@@saudmubarak1542 sombra can rot in hell for all I care and venture is very good rn git gud
A lot of supports like to cope and say "Just bait cooldowns and then use blade" (Or really when it comes to anything at all).
However, if the only counter to an ability like suzu, lamp, or life grip is to "bait it" (I.E. the ability itself isn't being used anyway) then clearly there's something wrong with the ability.
It's the same with the support hero themself. If the only "reliable" counter to a support hero like Kiriko is to "just kill them" (I.e. Them just NOT being there) then clearly that hero is horribly designed and unhealthy. Especially for a hero like Kiriko, who is extremely difficult to kill when her kit is so unbelievably bloated and overcompensated while being relatively easy.
On top of that, she has a tiny hit box, her arms blocking her head hitbox, faster wall climb than even Genji, the best ultimate in the game that can't be interrupted or counterplayed, and the fact that she has 250 HP now, despite already being the most busted and meta support in the game for 10 seasons straight.
I personally believe that abilities that deny death, outside of maybe tank abilities, should have a negative effect applied to the players after the fact like reduced healing, increased damage taken, or something similar to make sure there is still a window of opportunity that can be exploited. This way they can keep the power of being able to prevent death while still offering a counterplay option by committing again after the ability wears off. I don't know how this would play out but at least there is a downside unlike how it is right now.
@@metal100kthat's a great idea
@@metal100kinclusive of wraith form, deflect, roll, heal station, recall and drill?
@jacobbaartz7710 I said abilities that deny death, so heal station, roll, and deflect are by definition not included.
It's hard to say about the dps abilities because they are used almost exclusively as an escape as opposed to support abilities being used to deny abilities and plays. For the most part if the support abilities are balanced correctly then the dps ones wouldn't need to be nerfed as well. It's the stacking of these types of abilities that really make the game feel bad.
Start with the support abilities and expand to dps abilities if needed. I would not be opposed to some of those heroes getting slight debuffs after using those abilities
@@metal100k The reason y'all DPS players will never be happy is because you feel the other roles owe their life to being your fodder, by default. We don't have that game because Blizzard knows that players won't play the fodder role for you.
I understand, lamp is super aids. Kiriko as a character is extremely nimble (and I think swift step is the real problem).
But overall I would bet that deflect denies more damage overall than cleanse does. It's not that you care about death denial, it's that these UA-camrs like to conflate terms like "invulnerabilities" as globally bad.
Wraithform is a far longer invuln than cleanse. Beyond counterpicking, deflect is a 2-3 second invulnerability.
"Teleport through walls" how long have tracer and Sombra been in the game?
We lean too hard into loading these terms, when we should be asking and comparing what the problem is.
"Yeah but high risk, high reward" High risk means you'll lose most of the time, you understand that right?
And I'm all for working on stuff that's inflammatory even if it's statistically not a problem, like cleanse with the TP bombs, and ease of ult countering, but y'all are never going to think about a solution by intuition pumping all this crap onto stuff that really isn't that bad.
Genji requires you to have three easy to hit/kill characters on the enemy team or you lose. Moira/Mercy? Swap. Moira/Brig? Swap. Mei/Reaper? Swap.
Its too easy to run into a teamcomp that you cant do well against. There‘s also maps that suck for genji. There‘s too many situations where he sucks.
I wouldn't swap against mercy Moira ngl, unless the Moira understands the matchup
and even the rare few cases every probably 100 games where its actually playable theres 10 other characters who can just do his job better and easier lol
@@roxas13keyblade65Moira doesn’t have to understand the matchup to be a natural counter. Her mobility has more range and a shorter cooldown, she self heals with her basic attack, changing breakpoints, and she also has a skinny hitbox so it makes it harder to hit the spread shot. Not to mention deflect is basically useless against Moira
@@calebbb3103every Moira has an ego despite being so bad. Genji needs something to help that matchup.
@@willbettleheim3398 yeah lol it’s frustrating but u just learn to let them live in delusion if they want to
I'm just genuinely so sick of the current way genji has to be played, I feel like his skill ceiling was lowered so much due to nanoblade not even being able to slash dash anymore and the oneshot combo not doing enough damage to actually oneshot anymore, I was a Genji main since Season 10 of Overwatch 1 but the hp pool increase made me turn into a tracer/cass player because its just not even fun anymore to play the hero
all skill ceilings were lowered in ow2. They dumbed it down too much
What is the most optimal form of genji play to you in current meta? I'm curious.
It is genuinely fucking insane how I have 700+ hours on genji. Maybe 200 on cass and yet cass just farms lobbies. When genji I’m sweating my fucking nuts off for 1 kill.
@@ducasse8473 Target the target your hitscan is playing, finish with a dash in dash out. Think of a fishing lure, you toss it out and then flick it immediately back lol
If you start to duel a low target, the supports will push a button and negate everything you do. Blade is more for chasing down an isolated target, cant much use it in a team fight if you dont have nano or overhealth from Lucio beat
Getting more blade kills because you have more blades is not as fun as getting a good 2-3 blade every time with a good chance to get more. Worst nerf to an entirely skill based hero.
Genji being nerfed into the ground and buried 40ft deep is what made me stop playing because its actually not possible to consistently climb on him u will get stuck
Genji doesn't need buffs, he needs the game to be balanced so he can actually play the game and compete against the other heroes. He's not underpowered, other heroes are just over kitted.
Well that's never changing and it hasn't changed for the past 8 years, so I'd take some simple number change buffs over something that will never happen. You can't balance bad hero design just look at roadhog or orisa, you can balance good hero design which genji is.
I'd argue he's a bit underpowered but I agree it's mainly the game that needs balance design changes.
no he used to be a year or 2 ago but since the hp buffs hes definitely underpowered nearly all of his breakpoints are ruined now and most other characters still have a similar ttk or were buffed to compensate
It's legit both
Did you miss the part where Genji's shuriken do TWENTY SEVEN DAMAGE each? You're dumb af for thinking he isn't weak lmao
"We need to stop one shots"
"Time to buff HP across the board"
"Now add Venture and give her a one shot combo."
Ah yes of course. Makes perfect sense.
Not only that but give them two movement abilities, one that makes them invincible and then give them an ult that gives them an extra 75 health for some reason.
Meh, multi ability combos don't really compare to a true one-shot.
Widow and old Hanzo headshots, Hog hook, Soj Rail were/are the true one shots.
@@KingYahtzee Hog hook was a combo. If he hooked without ammo or got booped mid combo then the victim could survive. His right click was the true one shot.
Yeah genji has been underpowered for almost the entirety ow's history, 1 and 2, and all the new heroes were always strong against genji. And i think the reason is that they don't want him to be too popular, and they don't want for the player base to have too many genji players. We don't really know how many mercy mains stuck to the game just because they can switch to moira and ruin a genji's day if he's doing too well, though i certainly see such players regularly.
It’s shame what the devs did to genji!
it's a shame what they did to Overwatch in general
Sam u are so right i miss overwatch 1 so much it was such a good game . All we have now is $20 recolor skins and 5vs5 😢
Talking about season 1 genji made me so sad. Double jump reset on wall climb, ledge dash cheese, and long blade.
The amount of work u need to put into genji to make a fraction of the impact of other heroes is insane
19:00 - LOUDER 👏 FOR THE DEVS IN THE BACK 👏
Real. I WAS a gm genji/Rat duotrick but ever since season 9 I probably log an hour or two a month. Getting countered by the hero select screen is NOT a fun gameplay loop. In the past it was tolerable. Just meant I needed to lock in harder. NOW??? borderline impossible. Everything and Everyone gets away with 20-40hp. the ttk was ruined by making it longer in a damn near decade old game where the playerbase is only getting better.
blizz can't hear because they are blind
Even so they won’t hear ya when they constantly have their heads up their own asses
@@ghoulbuster1it's too dark
OMG i'm crying, it was so much betterrrrr. Now you blade and its just the worst. It always hurts my heart to see OW1 clips. Like Sam and many other say, there was play making ability. The game is fun when high skill characters have value. I was never mad about high skill Genji's, or Doom (DPS) that could just dominate with execution. Getting dominated by Genji made me want to learn him.
250hp is so awful for dragonblade
250 hp is so awful lol, i’m glad i dropped the game i’m not going to lie. I stuck with the OW2 until then, that was the last straw.
People hate this game so much that players now make an in-depth video on why these heroes are flawed.
whats crazy is how sups still complain ab genji despite how bad he is rn
Supps complain about everything while playing the easiest characters and this is coming from a supp main
Long gone are the days of getting a 4/5/6 man ult kill. Now it feels impossible to even get a 3k with your ultimate.
I got 3 4-5 man gravs yesterday. People also understand and play the game better, so they can anticipate those plays and adjust. Getting a 2 kill blade is still good value
@@OLONOODLE How are you getting big gravs if you're saying people "understand and play the game better, so they can anticipate those plays." I wasn't saying it's impossible to get a big grav or 3k+ riptire but it happens far far less than it did in OW1.
@@OLONOODLEIt’s decent value, it’s not as FUN though. 6v6 was just a better format, let’s not even talk about Kiriko who undoes every ultimate
The Harshest nerf to any character was Hanzo one shot being removed
Maybe if his hitbox was nerfed because he feels spammy and gets lucky undeserved headshots.
@@jokol7160 He had the smallest projectile in the game dude
@@IsThatKris Personally I'd be perfectly fine with the original hitboxes if I could just one shot again, like all the widow lobby admins I keep seeing. I say reward skill, the fact that I got good hitting those shots should be rewarding, but no apparently lets just make shots easier to hit but useless.
@@JBUSEin what world is a 240 headshot useless? Your support could breathe on them and they’d die. They literally have 10 hp left. And it’s gonna take either a lot of support attention to get them back to full OR, they are out of the fight.
@@MetroBreezyy Lmao dude did you get that mad over that? Bro left two separate comments because I said that lmao. Maybe useless isn't the word but it was to make a point. Many times, especially at range, (remember Hanzo used to be a sniper) enemies are indeed able to get a quick heal or bail out before theres time for a follow up shot, even with storm arrow. And if you're expecting teammates to follow up before you, good luck unless you're grouped. I was just making the point that Hanzo is indisputably way worse off now, much like Genji.
He can deflect building-sized lasers, a black hole, and missiles, but can’t deflect a big rock from Sigma
Dva can't eat it either. Accretion is such a strange ability.
Genji super strength has limits.
Genji can't deflect lasers
Genji super strength has limits.
And Sigma can control gravity
all they gotta do is fix his bugs and increase his shuriken and blade dmg. but then again these are the same people that buffed sojourn even after she was meta since the release of OW2
Remember when they made a nerf genii meme on tiktok that was great they really know how to understand the community 🙂
Genji, he is the character with the most unique gameplay in the history of shooters, and seeing him being so mistreated is sad
Hey guys we know people didn't like one shots so we removed the Shimadas from the game
Enjoy the new hero Venture, who is going to one shot combo you.
I stopped playing since season 4. Season 9 surely made me stay away from OW forever for how much they ruined genji. There's a reason that someone like even necros played significantly less in season 9
I miss flanking with a genji as Brig. I miss genji doing good damage.
So tired of supports saying "just bait cooldowns to get blade value" LIKE HOW DID WE GET HERE WHERE ITS ACCEPTABLE THAT COOLDOWNS HARD NEGATE ULTS JUST BY CLICKING A BUTTON NO SKILL NEEDED LIKE ANA SLEEP DOES
the game has turned from a mechanically intense hero shooter to a first person moba
Finally people understand that ana abilities are overpowered. FINALLY
@@ivanych6231??? She's like the most balanced and least braindead support in game, is this satire?
As a Tank/DPS player reading this, Ana isn't necessarily the case, more so Kiriko/Lifeweaver. Ana didn't have Mobility, so she needed something to shut down dives so she would have tome to get distance, or have an ally capitalize for a kill. The concept is bad, I agree with you, but Ana is one of the few that actually make it work.
@@ivanych6231he meant ana sleep actually requires skill to land
Sojourn was the embodiment of blizzards obsession to steal a chunk of the CoD fan base.
It's Hilarious that It's Not a No Brainer for People that the Following Things Objectively Lower the Skill ceiling, Depth and Integrity of a Competitive game -
- Universal Health Increase for No Reason
- Projectile size Increase so that Worse Players Can Have Better Accuracy stat instead of Actual Reflection of the player
- Universal Passive heal - Getting HP for Absolutely Free which Lowers the Meaning of Actual Duels/fights - Garbage like Cod - Being Casual
this is On top of the Mountain of Low IQ Decisions
Half the time when I play genji and im playing against anyone with an immortality ability or an ult that hard counters mine, I literally just don’t blade because them using that cooldown/ult is tremendously more detrimental to them than using arguably the worst ult in the game is for me. I’ll ult watch as they waste every cooldown on me, and they lose the fight and just laugh and ask, “was is worth it lol”. I understand there’s value you can get out of it and it’s not IMPOSSIBLE to get kills with, but bro it’s just not a fun experience almost ever.
It's crazy how genji ult is genuinely better used to bait cds most of the time. I don't even bother using that garbage wet noodle.
Genji in cutscenes: Dragon blade can slice through robots taller than builfings
Genji in game: Old women can tank 3 slices
i have like 5k hours on genji. i 2nd most things abby said here. cant even play the game anymore. for me idc what they do, but nano blade not slash-dash killing ruined the whole game for me tbh.
Yea the slash dash kill was only good thing about him and half of the time it wouldnt work now due to imorts and movement if we had old nano blade it wouldnt change much and thats saying sumt
As soon as season 9 hit most of the long standing TikTok/YT genjis quit entirely. While I definitely enjoy having less competition in the algorithm it’s definitely a huge red flag if you nearly entirely wipe out an entire subset of the games community. When I ask them why they stopped I get the same answer “he’s not fun anymore” not only is the new blade worse in almost every situation, but it’s just not as fun holding left click with no brain activity as it was zooming through the whole fight. On top of that they removed the prodigy combo one shot right as it was getting popularized, and that was the most satisfying thing to pull off in the entire game. I won’t be quitting genji, but I understand all those old greats who have.
I was a masters genji OTP and about a plat hitscan. Ever since blizzard didn’t account for the hp increase adequately when it comes to genji and increased hitscan projectile size I consistently rank higher and perform better on hitscan. I feel like that should say a lot.
As a projectile hero, the dps passive is no where near as good for him so securing kills is the same as pre-season 9
Genji and rein are my 2 most favorite characters so ive been suffering for a solid while.
when you open youtube 39 seconds after Samito posts a new video
Those collection of clips in the beginning made me miss OW1 so much , there were so many big pop off hype moments in OW1 gameplay, and was extremely exhilarating and amazing
the hate from Genji stems from his deflect. If he didn’t have it I promise no one would hate him.
Well the deflect hitbox has been nerfed and fair since May 2018. Maybe it's time to stop the hating.
@@user-cy6xl3vd3f The Hitbox could be the size of his head and people will still complain. When the counter play is “stop shooting lol” it makes the game disengaging. Same reason people hate Zarya metas. At least back in OW1 he had a set time and couldn’t cancel it whenever he wanted. So if you knew the timing you could counter play. Now he just uses it to clear distance for free to combo you up close
i think its just 90% of smurfs being genji otps and curb stomping shitlow elos
@@IsThatKris How to kill genji - don't shoot him for two seconds (when he also can't do anything, unlike zarya who can still shoot you under bubble), and shoot him any other time. Sounds pretty hard for gold players, but I think they can manage
@@joeschipper2593I wonder why they aren't playing genji in their ranks
I’ve been playing this game for years, after about a month off, I played last week. I had to shut it off. They’re ruining the game.
I remember in Ow1 you used to have a game every now and then that was just amazing; it was fun, close, and intense and it is what would make you always want to come back to ow and play more-those games are non-existant now
Two of my favorite experiences in overwatch were genji/tracer dive and zarya/winston duoing with my friend. Both experiences dont exist anymore for different reasons and thw gameplay loops they provided were the best overwatch had to offer.
Necros said it best whenever he pops off he said “now i just have to do this every match” meaning you need to play perfect if the enemy is competent at all
Good lord, just seeing the difference in gameplay between the clips of OW1 and OW2 makes me so sad. Genji used to have OPTIONS, and now his only option is tickle people until blade, and then tickle them a bit harder.
I have always found weird how the metal ninja doesnt have armor. I think they should give him 50 armor and a slight damage buff. He struggles too much surviving engagements as a duelist
Genji and Renhardt, the two heroes to suffer the most, even if they are in the meta, you need to sweat your balls off.
Blizzard: Well, okay, we heard you. We are going to buff Tracer
It’s insane that it takes three swings but in reality it takes way more because supports have get out of jail free card abilities now.
What enrages me is they buffed HP looks but didn’t scale genjis ult. If someone is getting healed at all it takes 5 sword hits to kill them. Also deflect has been bugged for ages and doesn’t work properly or consistently
I remember when I used to quake in my boots when I heard the enemy's dragonblade. Actually was so much fun anticipating it/countering it. Now it's a joke of an ultimate.
Honestly at this point in OW2 I just use blade as a combo extender. I feel like set up blades unless you get nano AND team pressure you will just get CC’d or enemies will slip away with mobility creep. So instead, just whip it out in an advantaged duel then try to get 1 other elim from it. Sometimes that will extend to 2 or 3 more even, but just confirming the first kill and having 5 seconds to go for the next is enough imo. Still not a good hero but it’s hilarious how in 5v5 it feels less powerful. That speaks loudly to the hero design they are still running with.
Just ult track and push Q to bait counter ults.
it is really difficult to defend overwatch 2 at this point, i'm actually shocked some people still try to find ways to defend THIS.
I was never a good genji player or liked fighting against him all that much, but at least he was generally as viable as other heroes. Overwatch 2 throws that out of the window and the devs have not changed anything about the game now even after not having kotik call the shots, so i'm done with hoping for any change for the better. That game is done and the devs will not change their ways. If they do not learn, let them fall, so MAYBE they might change some things.
I'm out of patience. I'll still support Samito here, but personally i see no reason to ever return to the game anymore.
The best way I’ve found to make blade work is use it to bait beat or trans and then let your teammates with actually good ults to kill them
the video isnt about identity, its just about the stregnth of genji lol
i don't like that in ow2 theres so much hero focusing in denying value like zusu or lifegrip
they have little skill expression unlike ball genji or doomfist
Seeing the nostalgia from early OWL seasons is the only good thing left for OW2. This game has fallen sooooo far. Anyone saying otherwise is legit insane.
The game has been band-aid fixed to the point Overwatch influencers are jumping ship on the game and people are still out here defending 5v5 like it's the promised land. It feels like the game is on the verge of being shelved by the higher ups because pf the lack of interest. Even if it's not what everyone wants, 6v6 would at the very least get people talking about this game again.
I understand the complaints about nano blade but you are still investing two ults and the enemy team will probably use every cool down to stop you. Blade on its own is literally a wet noodle and cant kill easily anymore especially with the mobility creep
"EQO WHAT A PLAYER WHAT STAR!" will forever be stuck in my head. I loved that play so much. Sadly they lost, but damn he put it all out there to give them a shot. That patch was so much fun to watch in OWL.
meanwhile sojourn has a 1tap hitscan ult ashe has a 2 tap headshot
Sojourn doesn't 1-tap most of squishies anymore even with blue beam. You need whole nano for that.
*DEVS when creating any new character:
Maximum projectile speed? Check.
Wide area effect? Check.
Near-auto aim? Check.
Shields? Check.
Self-healing? Check.
Two-button kill combo? Check.
Escape ability? Check
Insane health? Check.
Invisibility? Check.
Guaranteed-multi-kill low-effort ult? Check.
*DEVS when updating Genji:
Is there anyone left he can still kill? Make it so he can’t. Check.
"The best play when you use blade is to back off" The amount of times I've literally popped blade just to bait out other ults like Beat or Transce because I noticed the Lucio and Zen holding it for me. I love not being able to use one of the funnest ults in the game.
Kiriko headshot does more damage than a blade swing
Genji in six vs six still need a nerf to alt not his projectiles but getting blizzard to properly nerf characters individually is almost impossible
Why would you not link his video in the description?
Nice vid. Can you drop a link to the original vid so we can show him some support as well?
They’ve absolutely destroyed Genji and Hanzo on top of destroying the game that we used to all love.
Let's be real if this is "*the worst state Genji has ever been in*" then he is doing very well. Still in the Top 5 for BOTH pick and WIN rate across all ranks and was picked quite a bit during the OWCS. I think the real problem is unfun cheese heroes to play against (Moira, Torb, Hog) and immortality abilities like LW Pull, Lamp, Suzu. I'd be good with Genji getting a shuriken dmg buff or blade dmg buff, but there is WAAAY too many dramatic statements being used to describe the state he is.
When my heroes are in a bad state they are very much are unplayable. Their win rate bottoms out and throwcusations get said even before even leaving the spawn doors. There are a lot of heroes that would gladly trade places with the state Genji is in right now. Also, on the point of projectiles he fans 3 out ...that alone makes them easier to hit than most of the projectile cast.
I get he is not as fun to play right now, but the dramatic statements to describe his state is eye roll worthy at best.
game is so flking boring after hp changes, they just murdered high risk melee heroes with that dogshit update. The game overall is just boring af compared to ow1
Yea the first month after genji change and even now sometimes the muscle memory is so messed up now. So many times I’ll double swing someone and already flick to the next target but the first one never died. And that millisecond window I looked away they already faded out or tp or some Bs
Devs are support mains so we just accept Genjis role as a more niche double hitscan counter or a brawl version of tracer playstyle even though the hero really doesnt deserve to be relegated to a niche in the first place
Back in the day Genji was the pinnacle of dps gameplay. Now were in the Dark Ages of Sojourn.
Im now realising sojurn has only gotten 1 real nerf, and it didn't really change much for her.
I would seriously like to know who the ow devs main in house. I think a lot of questions could be answered 😂
probably all the easy baby heroes that counter him and supports. the game has been supportwatch forever
9:10 unless you were a support, in which case you could just receive buffs with no downside.
sadly alot of heros have got hurt
but id love to know from other rein players do you think rein would come back and be generally fine if he dropped the ability for fire strikes and just made them happen off missed swings so for example
if you don't hit an enemy with a melee or an enemy isn't right up your ass rein would throw out a firestrike
the reason I think this might be a good change is because of his lack of range makes him generally unpickable outside of cqb maps
this could be a good change to bring him up to other heroes
you could also make fs slower to make it harder to hit so balance wise he could still land them but its more about spam over accurate the idea would need to be talked and ballenced but it could make rein more viable
Id love for you to do a video on sombra, I believe she needs a nerf just like tracer.
No she needs a buff
I hate how genji was a victim of the Devs trying to please everyone so they nerfed him because bad players got destroyed by him which is what happened to venture. honestly it strips character identity when they do this
12:50 But they also increased the attack/swing speed so its dps is way higher than in OW1.
What I mean is that you can not compare OW1 blade with OW2 blade by damage. You have to compare by with ttk.
People blame brig, but its more than that. Its power creep. The healing creep, then immoralities, the ubertanks in 5v5, and finally the season 9 changes, which heavily favor hitscan.
I started playing this game in early 2019 and knew I wanted to play Genji, unfortunately I stopped playing him around 2021 because I feel he just always got countered but till this day, he's still basically my second most played hero .
What do you think about blade causing bleed? That might be an interesting change that makes sense since he is swinging a katana! Right now the katana feels so weak. I also wonder what it would be like if he could swing blade and still shoot shuriken. That would be neat. You could just press Q to swing the blade…
On another note, autoheal feels like a natural change but the issue is still having 2 healers. Having so much healing just makes it so that opponents can just stay in a fight for so long without having to leave for a health pack. The balance team lost their mind.
Just buff its dmg to 2 shot squishies then make nano increase swing speed and not dmg.
I think they should give genji a 3 sec deflect but each second is a tick and each tick is a 3 or 4 second Cooldown so you could shoot, deflect for 1 or 2 ticks, cancel, shoot and deflect again
i think the should bumb up the shurikin dmg back up to 30 wich would mean u can kill a squishy by dash full rightclick and meelee wich we all know is extremely hard to do this dmg would make it that genji is actually doing something troughout the game. make the dragonblade slower again but bumb up the damage to 130 so u can 2 swing a normal squishy and can dash swing dash a 300hp target and so u can slashdash with nano or dmg boost again but restrict his ammo to 24 but make the reload a litle bit faster as its now. this will help genji feel better and actually be viable again but he wont be OP bcs there is still to much that counters him and to many bad matchups
oh man, still i have genji's 6k POTGs from OW1, sometimes i watched them and missed old days with my boys. its been almost 3 yrs that i left this game. sigh**
Genji should get:
30 damage shurikens
slash ignored damage resistances
melee should do 65 damage
Two dash cooldowns, with 30 damage each
I have roughly 400 hours on Genji since OW1. I am not a one-trick, however I do prefer to play him whenever available because he is such a fun character. Because the last few seasons, i've been flexing more to Echo in matchups where I felt Genji could be viable simply because the risk to reward ratio on Genji is so high, and I have to be playing very well in order to receive base value. My Echo is not very great, I have about 15 hours on her, but my value on her comparatively is way higher because taking duels feels so much easier on her. I wish Genji felt better to play, and it's primarily due to the synergies and abilities supports have now that make my neutral, and ultimate feel highly irrelevant. Hoping for some genji love soon
I was drawing Dawn from Pokemon. I was hearing a Gen4 OSt and thought I'm schizo, but no, it was actually playing in the video lol.
Im not gonna launch that anymore ....
If they shuffle and Genji happens to be good from it, they'll immediately nerf him. And then they'll reshuffle again and not revert those nerfs.
And you all know it's true.
I've been calling Genji a pool noodle character after S9. Basically dropped him after over 200hrs over the past 5-6yrs.