How Fast Do Pros Cycle Uphill? | Beginner VS Amateur VS Pro: Hill Climb Edition
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Cycling fast uphill is the often considered to be the ultimate test of a rider's strength on the bike, climbs are where the biggest races are often decided and its where no amount of spending on gear can make up for a lack of strength in your legs! So what really marks out a world class climber? We've brought a beginner, an amateur and a pro to the bottom of a local climb to find out!
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I am Freddie just a lot older.
What did Freddy say when he arrived?
21 minutes.
I could ride with Freddie and still get dropped.
#EDMODE
Yeh, I’m and older and better looking (😉) version of Freddie
Carry this competition on into the pub. My money is on Freddie.
Brilliant idea 😂
Freddie would outdrink Ollie and outfight him in any ensuing pub brawls.
@@walterkramp-holzwarth862 There is also the infamous Tour de (insert the name of a local lake here). Here you must ride around a lake and stop and drink a beer on every bench that you come by along the way. The fastest time wins.
@@sm-qw9mj Unicycle wars but this is the main plot.
The infuriating thing is if you're the very fit amateur cyclist or runner and you get left behind or overtaken by a beginner. I did it in my 20s as solo rider to chain gangs. Group of us had it done to us as runners when a never done any exercise in his life friend who tagged along left us all for dead. He was naturally skinny with massive chest. He had no interest in any exercise, did lots of long haul business flights, could have been world class distance runner
Thank you for this video.
I'm a keen amateur, and I've been back into cycling for a couple of years now. I've even got a well used turbo trainer in the garage.
Freddie would 'blow my doors off'. As I get older, the strength just ebbs away. I don't have to stop on the hills, but at 74 I'm just getting slower and slower.
BUT - I still enjoy getting out and going as best I can. After each ride, I check the Strava segments, compare within my age group, and find excuses!
Keep it up all you Freddies - you will get faster.
That's awesome that you're still getting out and riding! Keep it up, we're sure you're inspiring plenty of others to ride!
If I can get on a bike at 74 years of age, I'll count that as a blessing in of itself! Well done, and don't ever stop👏🏿
About the only people I ever overtake are 74.
@@gliddofglood glad to be of service 😁
I started at 39 and I was told that am to old 🤔 🤣 74 is unbelievable sir 👍
4:30 I love how he still “Beep,,,Beep,,,Beep,,,, BEEEPP!” himself even though there’s nobody left...
gotta make content :D
Fun video and fair play to Freddie for giving it his all (with way too much effort at the start), but given Andrew is 65Kg and Ollie is 68Kg, choosing Freedie at 92Kg rather dampened the "beginner" comparison... I'm sure sub 75Kg novices exist!
Superb , Thanks.
Would love to know Freddies watt average as well! Fun to see the difference on that as well and see how much the W/Kg has to say in climbing!
Quick question, are three bike are same brand. Or list each one, thx
What was the max HR of pro & amateur?
Freedie is me on my first month of cycling 😂😂😂
What is the elevation gain of this climb? If it was mentioned, I missed it.
I want to see Andrew vs Pogacar
I like the advice 'Don't go too hard at the beginning'. Freddie bolts out the blocks like a dog chasing a cat! #teamfreddie the everyman.
we can all get behind him!
Sometimes you need that extra momentum at the beginning
Yes 'Don't go to hard at the beginning' cue Freddie looking like Sam Bennett in full flight on the Champs Elysees! Top bloke. Ave it!
more freddie!!!
He absolutely destroyed the first 100 meters!
I'd like to see a lot more content featuring 'Freddies' doing things normal cyclists do, and advice on how to approach them and improve. I suspect that 'freddies' form a good chuck of your audience and would be interested to hear how to tackle, say, their first 50 mile sportive or similar.
I like this.
Came here to say this!
I agree! @GCN I hope you are listening - I'd love targeted beginner guide videos - e.g. an absolute beginner female on a hybrid working up to a 50km
Totally here for this - I mean, I love the content blasted out by Si, Hank, Ollie with amazing climbs and rides as an "One day..." inspiration BUT an additional "lets be honest here" view on people who just started off would be at least as motivating for me.
Well said. GCN come on make it happen, ball on your court.
"Don't go out too hard"
Freddie: I am speed
😂😂
@Nooneinparticular987 then you slowly start to feel how thing really are... disappointed in not being a super human...
He didn't start too hard, it's just that the road is steep af. What he lacked was fitness and technique
Freddies pacing skill = -9000 xD
@@JR-wj9bh well he lacked the capacity to keep his blood oxygenated comfortably
I feel Freddie's pain. I was once passed on a climb by a mountain biker that was wearing flip flops and drinking a latte in the Smokey Mountains during the Tour De Tuck. He must of have been a local mountain goat.
It could be worse. When I was 14 I bought new mountain bike (I like cycling and at that time I was the best among the friends) and went cycling. In the middle of the hill I felt the wind and 70yo granny with the old no-gear bike (all her life she has no car and went with that same old bike everywhere shee needs) went from the store to home. She smiled at me and said she must hurry because she was late for cooking the lunch. She was like *woooosh* and all I can did is watched her in the back. My confidence felt bellow absolute zero after that.
@@SaraP1111 lmfaooo
@@SaraP1111 haha..a granny!
I was flying up Chena Ridge Hill on my very nice road bike, feeling great... until Rocky passed me on his mountain bike. Towing his kiddie trailer. With *two* kids in it. I think that marked the beginning of the end of my Tour de France dreams. 😠
One afternoon in the '70s I was riding my very nice Raleigh Professional, all kitted out and serious, with the straps on my toe clips cinched down, time-trialing along and feeling good about myself. Suddenly a scruffy shirtless guy in blue jeans and cowboy boots, with a cigarette in his mouth, sped past me on a department store balloon-tire bomber with a squeaky chain. Ruined my day.
Ollie: you got any tips for Freddie
Andrew: don't start too hard.
Freddy: *STARTS GUNS BLAZING*
obviously he did not listened
I was thinking the same.
LOL
😂😂😂
Get an electric bike and enjoy it
Freddie, needs to be in more vids, because he represents the normal man, and the entry level cyclist, which this station's target audience.
I agree ! put fat boy in more videos !
b/c it gives my fat self hope
I agree that some sort of training program with Freddie would be great. But I don't think GCN's target audience is the entry level cyclist. Sure, there certainly is content for them but I've been riding for 20 years, rode 5,000+ miles so far this year, do some fun races occasionally, and I still am learning. I can't get enough of GCN. GCN has a very broad target audience.
@@petesharp3640 It would actually be good to see Freddie in some sort of training program that GC and endorses and always recommends to us lay people. It would be good to see how a normal average cyclist develops with their training tips.
@@cliffcox7643 for sure!
If Freddie does too much, he becomes the Amateur level rider.
Fair play to Freddie! Great effort from the young lad, definitely not an easy one.
Fair play indeed, as someone who weighs a similar amount and has been cycling as long I thought he was going to be walking the speed he set off.
Fair Play to Freddie: sounds like the name of an alt-rock band from the 00's!
Got to smile when Ollie says ‘pros, compared to the rest of us’. He’s an amazingly good cyclist...everesting, hour record etc. ‘The rest of us’ is more like Freddy
Should have taken similar weight classes tho. 92kg vs 68kg and 65kg 🤷🏻♂️
@@Robertius that's entirely the point of the video
Freddy is not the guy you want to have in your team climbing hills in a bike race, but he sure as hell is the guy you want in your team when it comes to a pub fight!
What a BEAST, slogging 96kg up that hill. I'm amazed that he even made it to the top, mad respect👊
If i weight over 90kg, i would not reach 1/3 of that hill
I've got 110kg... and climbing is a nightmare. All respect to the guy
I'd say he's more muscle than straight up fat, but his build is completely opposite to that of a pro cyclist. Still, it was quite good on his part, hope he keeps going at it.
@@ateucrismado 123kg here, it's awful, takes me a couple minutes to go up a ~3% incline 400m road. But I do start full speed, maybe that's where I've been going wrong all these years? Maybe I need to just put my bike in a good gear and go up normally instead of pushing after the momentum? (small downhill, then the uphill I mentioned, that's why I go into the hill pretty fast.
reminds me of me
I thought I was a “keen amateur” but after watching this video, I realized I’m more of a Freddie. More Freddie content please! 👍
right 😂 I’m most definitely a beginner
Freddie is more like amateur rather than beginner.
@@gamma_dablam An amateur is somebody who isn't paid to do it. It has nothing to do with ability, as is demonstrated by the fact that all three riders in this video are actually amateurs.
@@ark8tct No. Ollie is paid to make videos about cycling, not to cycle _per se_.
@@beeble2003 It also tends to go along with skill level. If you're bad, you won't be paid for it, whereas, if you're great, it's very likely that you are or will be paid for it (unless you turn it down, of course). Bobby Jones in Golf is the best example I know of from sports. The greatest Golfer in the world yet was never a 'pro'. Andrew holds records, which makes him pro-level even if he isn't paid for it. Also, in theory, Paul Morphy is another example, as being the greatest Chess player in the world by far at the time, yet he refused money for his victory at the American Congress (took home some steel ware, instead). Not really a pro and world championship didn't exist, so he was kind of an amateur, technically speaking, whilst being the very best. Nonetheless, goes along with skill level most of the time (for most sports, anyway).
I think the biggest difference between us amateurs and professionals is that they are faster in the climbs, flats and descents. The rest is quite the same...
hmmm iam afraid they are probably faster even going underwater ...
LOL no, the rest is not the same
Well, weight was kind of the same between Andrew and Ollie, but genetics, diet, and training methods are very different. Not only did he beat him by over 1 minute, he did so without being nearly as tired, so that would quickly compound over time. Now, comparing normal people with Andrew proves more uneven as there are major differences at every level, including weight and body type.
Hahhahaha. Basically theyre better at everything🤣
@@Bayo106 it was a joke, what else is there other than climbs flats and descents
Did Freddy got twice the money for this clip? He worked twice as long ;-)
Piecework ??
The good news for Freddie is he's got a huge and exciting margin of progress lying ahead of him, whereas Andrew's and Ollie's are pretty close to zero
in actuality freddie will never beat the "amateur" guy
Next week: Freddie takes Ollie and Andrew to the gym to see how well they handle 135kg bench presses and 180kg squats. Freddy will spot them and medics will be standing by.
Haha this !!
Brilliant
@ed miller No
@ed miller well, you don’t have enough intelligence to understand the joke
what would the point in that be? its a bicycle racing channel
Freddie looks like he could Bench Press both Ollie and Andrew at the same time. He attacked the hill like a weight lifter.
Also..
I would like to see how Freddie transforms his physique into the leaner more cycling specific body. I personally was a power lifter in the early nineties and weighed 235 pounds (107 kg. approximately). A year and half later after I switched to cycling including racing I was 175 pounds (approximately 80 kg.)
@cunning_linguist An elite cyclist is not a good look. Have you seen Tour riders off their bikes? They all look like aliens -- huge heads and tiny willowy bodies. The best possible physiques are the sprints in track and field and probably the pinnacle is a decathlete. That's the idea physical specimen.
@cunning_linguist yep, exactly. that's why they're so phenomenal on the bike -- leg power and efficiency of the best of the best but no weight anywhere else. Pwr/Wt is just crazy.
@@Dave-lr2wo That's why I got into Triathlon. Swimming is great for physique. Running gives you great core, glutes and legs. But I love cycling the most.
*No doubt, foot pounds per second Freddie ruled the ride!*
Shout out to the guy at 3.11 just getting his chippy tea. Then realised he was on camera so did a cheeky coin flip!
"Act natural"
Hahaha
That was funny
3:09 - you're welcome! 😊
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freddie instantly became the face and the voice of the millions. :) he is the average cycling enthusiast in which we all see ourselves. as mentioned before in other comments you should include average joes like freddie more in your videos.
Great point! I agree 100%
Yup I third that! I am Freddie too, plus about 20yrs and 20kg!!
The winner is subjective in this case. Freddie was carrying more weight across a fixed distance. He got a best workout, while spending the least amount of money on his workout machine. He only lost if we stay narrowly focused on speed or time.
Freddie could do better, but he would need to ride with proper racers.
Pro: go easy at the start
Freddie: fuck that lol
So true lol
As Mark Twain once said most eloquently, “Comparison is the death of joy”. Ride on Freddie!
Perhaps if Ollie changed his surname to Balsawood then he'd be as fast and light as Andrew Feather.
LOL comment of the week
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He's basically a time trials rider though. I think his name should be Aether
Excellent post! I LOL ed.
I second the motion to have Freddy always included to represent a large population of cyclist!
Agree
@elgur I'll always be Freddy 😔
I live at the top of a 500m 11% avg hill which I cycle up several times a week. Over the year I've taken over 2 minutes off my time and got top 50 on strava for this segment with long term ambitions of becoming 1st.
1st belongs to one Andrew Feather. After watching this, I don't feel as if it's going to be possible so I've set my sights on a different goal. I bet I can go down said hill faster than Andrew... the bast****.
David Morris
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I feel your pain. I live in Bath. In fact I work a 2 min walk from the GCN office, and I must say... its annoying when you think you've absolutely killed a climb, you check you're strava, and your 4 minutes off the fastest time, and it's bloomin Andrew Feather who holds the KOM. I swear....EVERY TIME!
😅😅
Yo, bro, I was born at the foot of Zoncolan... Took me 33 years to repeat a climb I first did as an 11years old without realising how hard it was. Nowadays at around the hour mark I think "this cracked Pantani" and sweat blood and tears in the 20% sections. I don't even bother checking my time on Strava, too demoralising. My inner monologue is "I can endure this torture twice as long as a pro" and that's where I'm at. If I ever make it to the top again without stopping, I'll die a happy soul!
Andrew did a ride on the hills just next to where I live on Exmoor and swept up a healthy handful of fairly tough KOMs by pretty large margins, its kind of scary how strong he is
Mad respect to Freddie to put himself out there in front of the gcn community as a beginner with obviously a sprinter body type ...damn !
Hear hear, I say.
For me he looks more like frame twister body type, such arms can destroy any type of frame. Respect to Freddie, true sportsman.
"sprinter" body type. i was thinking more french fry
9
*Freddie never gave up, he didn't apologize, he just kept cranking!*
Freddie lost because he was using disc brakes.
Everything on Freddie was breaking
Don’t think Freddie touched his breaks !😂
😂
🤣😂
Rims4theWin
Should have had a 4th racer, "the old geezer", let me know for next time
We asked Lloydy but he couldn't make it...
@@gcn Oh Lloydy - I'd kick his a...
That guy who cycles up there everyday for forty years to go to work
Having been flogged by blokes twice my age I wouldn't be surprised if the result was different than most people think. Of course I've now run out of riders twice my age to challenge me, so if anyone knows a cyclist in their 120's let me know.
@@PianoKwanMan the mailman on a bike 😎
This was exciting to watch...reminded me I've also got a bicycle in the garage...made me feel like getting it out...so I just waited till the feeling passed...
Give Freddie a recurring show!!!! I would love to hear and watch his cycling journey as he becomes engrossed and falls in love with cycling. It's so inspiring to see someone's journey of falling for the bike bug.
Video Idea: You pay for a coach for freddie for 6 months, do a monthly blog/diary, then take him back to do the same hill and see how much he improved.
Well done Freddie lad
Watch something called "Tour de tietema"
Thats a shorter version of your idea. Albeit in Dutch it has subs and is super well made.
ou , I’d like to see that .. give us normal folks hope of how much we can improve
Good man, Freddie. Wicked respect.
Came here to say the same thing! Give him a shot, @GCN; Freddie seems game!
@@jambo2502 available on UA-cam?
Beginner VS Amateur VS Pro: Descent
A descending race might be a little dodgy for a beginner...
Change "beginner" to 'chunky' and I'll do it ;-)
I've done around 2500km of road cycle since April, in the Alps so a lot of hills and descent. Given I'm around 93kg also, I descend pretty rapidly (thanks gravity). For the first time since I got the bike, yesterday I set a new record for descending a hill I've done a few times. So fast in fact I came over my handlebars and onto my face and shoulder. One dislocated collarbone and some stitches has made me reconsider my cannon ball descent down hills like this in Italy.
This... no twists to make it dangerous, just a flat out drag race without pedalling. I'm guessing Freddie at 92kg would have a good chance of being competitive.
@@jamesstringerphoto Gravity does not make you descend faster... at least not in the sense you are thinking :D
"it Never Gets easier, you Just go faster"
Greg lemond
Loved how Freddie completely disregards the advice “don’t start off too hard” 😂 😂 fair play to him though that looked grim.
For me, I love seeing all the data; any video that puts pro-like cyclists through their paces and discloses their watts I'd be very keen to see! It's just staggering to see what the pros can do, especially when more and more amateurs have power meters these days and so the numbers actally mean something ...just sub 500W for 5+mins @ 65kg!!!
Good to see a real person like Freddy getting a crack. He's 15 or 20kg lighter than me.
Same :)
Freddy represents me, i am 1,90m 120kg dying to climb.
@@mlustosakm same height, same weight man, and would love to ride that climb just to see how i do. aerodynamic as a brick but still can climb.
@@tr4x1ymus still more aero than Conor
@@JayLato hah, if i loose a lot of weight then yes, otherwise we are about the same
I've learned all I need to know about how to climb faster:
I'm off to the garage to rip off my bar tape!
Make sure you wipe the grease off your chain too. It will save you 005 grams.
Ha ha. Ridiculous. That's just to wind people up, surely 😄
That's what's great about cycling. There's always someone out there that humbles you and knocks you down a few pegs. There's always a 'next' level.
That was impressive, unbelievable how easy Andrew made it look. Absolutely in awe of his power. Way to go Freddie representing us normal folk. Curious how many meters elevation was gained?
andrew: dont start too hard
freddie: ...
Freddy has a great suffer-face
Lol 😆🤣
"I HATE YOU!" is the only appropriate response when someone blows your doors off like that on a climb.
lol
This is a great video and gives us amateurs perspective and a concept of the greatness of a pro cyclist’s physical fitness and ability. I appreciate what they can do. The pro wasn’t breathing hard at all. I appreciate videos of this type, please keep them coming. Thank you.
I used to be in that kind of shape, at 96 kilos and 50 of years I would be happy to that climp in half an hour. Well done guys!
Freddie did great - the competition was super tough and that hill is savage!
Me on climbs: "I'm too weak"
Me on flat sprints: "UNLIMITED POWER"
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It's this a ROTS reference?
Hear hear!
This is me and I cannot deny it
Wtf!!!! ???? I thought I was a freak!!! On flat and downhill I’m a monster!! But uphills I totally suck!!! I learned that I breathe through my mouth instead of nose!! But what the hell!! How do I train?? I’m definitely a Freddie I’m 81 kilos or 180lbs I went from road to mountain biking and it’s fun....ner but I need coaching, or more Freddie vids
Average speed:
- Andrew 29,2 km/h
- Ollie 23,4 km/h
- Freddie 11,6 km/h
F*** me, 29.2 km/h up a 7% hill!
@@andrewfielden284 I know right; insane 😰 but not impossible, just requires lots of training.
@@peachycranberry I'll get right on to that after I've done my sub 20 5k run :)
@@andrewfielden284 nicee 😎 I haven’t broken 20 just yet in the 5k; I need to work on pace
Miles ?
And the times are
5:20@500w (vo2 81) ; 6:40@385w; 13:28@?
Freddie weighs around 200 pounds. Newbie or not, he's almost 50 pounds heavier than those guys, so it would make sense that he couldn't keep up. If he dropped 20 pounds, he still couldn't catch them, but he'd improve a lot over his own performance.
Well done lads. I’ve been road cycling about 2 yrs now and have in the past have to get off and walk up the hills. Last weekend during a 100km ride we hit a Strava segment called the Billesley Wall and it hit 21% at one point and I made it to the top without stopping 😀
Andrew Feather seems like a straight up, down to earth bloke. Hats off to Freddy for taking one for the team! And what you said at the end is exactly on target. No matter what your ability level, everyone is suffering!
When I started cycling, I read a quote somewhere that it never gets easier, you just go farther and higher.
Andrew Feather definitely didn’t *look* like he was suffering .. I’m out of breath just thinking about it !
“I can taste blood” yep that’s always my barometer for a solid effort. Fair play gents. Also, “beep beep beep GO” is about as unsatisfying as an unresolved chord progression.
Sounds daft but what’s that awful taste when you cough after heavy exercise?
@@stewartgrindlay9760 thats your life force leaving your body
Pro's tip: Don't start too fast.
Beginner: OK, I'm just gonna start with an all out sprint.
i actually done this lol
Pain is temporary.
Quitting lasts forever.
- Lance Armstrong
Yeah well, Lance Armstrong, say no more lol. Wait, I’ll say some more. I’ve had constant pain for 40 years. I’ve started and quit things several times. I’ll do whatever the hell I want.
Now repeat the test, with additional weights in a backpack to match Freddie, just to find out who's *really* the strongest rider ;)
yep
Well the measured power output is independent of body weight. Shame they didn't include Freddie's :)
@@RockinHorea Freddie's bike probably doesn't have a powermeter.
Would have been nice to crunch some numbers with watts /Kg with same bikes and gear ratios.
And identical bikes!
I identify with Freddie. He can take umbrage in the fact he would have to output 6-700 watts to match Andrew and even for a pro that is unsustainable over that distance.
Even watching a video like this one, I can't comprehend how great a professional is
Freddie literally said “bloody hell this is steep” before he even got on the climb😂
A friend of mine who is a gifted triathlet and a very well trained cyclist told me that few years ago while climbing a pyrenees pass he was overtaken by Mark Cavendish. As a sprinter, the Cav is a below average climber (to say it nicely) but he's much better in mountain than a very fit amateur.
That says a lot about what it takes to be a pro!
If he has the time, you should make Freddie a "project" for GCN and see how fit you can make him in 2021
but then freddie will become one of them. This will not do.
Great idea! If Freddie refuses, I can volunteer !
Now do it again but you all have the SAME WEIGHT.
Yeah give that feather bloke a lead filled vest and lets see how fast he is then ;)
yep, at 57kg I know I wouldn't beat Ollie, being simply unfit
I was thinking the same
@PlantBlasedBlogger it will make the exact difference to show that being pro is about incredible fitness
@PlantBlasedBlogger well maybe but I still want to see them wearing a diving weight vest or so
"I can taste blood" we've all been there lol
“Beep, beep, beep, go!” 😂
They should have made it more equal in weight.
Have the pros carry 30kg each up the hill.
Let's see how the 65 kg paperweight goes when packing 30kg of rocks on his back.
The weight ought to be more evenly distributed, though. Carrying such a heavy backpack gives you an awkward centre of mass and bike handling. Sort of experiencing this every time transporting my groceries home from the supermarket.
They should of got a similar physic beginner and not a sprinter
Reminds me of these times up the mountains when you feel like you're having a good day and some dude just pass you: goes hey, great day isn't it! And just goes on to crush your soul by climbing at like 2 or 3 time your speed as if it was normal.
I know your pain Freddie!
These days they are on electric bikes and wearing jeans and not even sweating. One woman apologised to me as she zoomed past.
I was riding near Pau and a bunch of school children passed me, I got the odd concerned look as I was travelling so slowly for someone brought up in the Pyrenees
I’m sure that Freddy now appreciates the “gravity” of the situation.
That's heavy
Oh damn it 😂
The title reflects a much more interesting question than the one the video addressed. It would be a lot more useful to know the pros' speed going up a variety of slopes -- 14 kph up 15%, 20 kph up 10% -- that sort of thing... something we could actually use while we're watching the TdF, or slogging up a hill.
Top effort Freddie! That was brilliant
"Even his name is lightweight." That's gold Jerry. GOLD!
Man I saw myself in Freddie every time I do the Zwift climbs - Good job man!
#metoo
I'd like to see how a pro, an amateur and a beginner fair in a one day sufferfest. I think lots of us are interested in day-long rides and would like to know how a pro approaches it differently.
Well the difference in the elites is genetics and the drug program as well. Crazy genetics though let’s not get it twisted.
Probably the most interesting video GCN have made in a while, more like this please.
What's that between Freddie's shoulders and his hands? Never seen anything like that at GCN. 🧐
Cycling is the only sport where a weak upper body is an advantage. Let us skinny guys have this :D
Definitely looks like a rugby player. I can totally sympathise with him.
@@simonr7097 I love Geraint Thomas's description of cyclists.. the bottom half of a shire horse and the upper body of a pre-pubescent boy!!
To use weak feel is a bit harsh. Being able to Hold an aero position for an extended period is not weak. It just doesn’t require a person to be huge.
Spierballen
We knew who was gonna win, but we were all with Freddie
You didn’t descend, he would have toasted you!
Correct me if I'm wrong but averaging 500 Watts for 5 Minutes means he's delivering basically 70% of a HORSEPOWER for 5 Minutes straight? That's absurd if you think about it^^
you took a 90kg dude as a beginner, haha!! Would have been more fair to take someone around the same weight as you guys. Fairer comparison... Of course you gonna smoke him...
I'd be way back, I'm such a slow climber other cyclists passing me ( which occurs a lot) often ask If I'm ok.
Great to see you using normal riders in your videos. Please do more with average club riders. 👍
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The true ultimate leveler: after they're done, do an arm wrestle. Take that Andrew!
@Top Trending I have a picture of a teammate on the beach at Lake Tahoe on a return trip from US Nationals. Quads of tree trunks and a shriveled upper body. True freak of nature!
Cyclists: leg muscle growth while upper body atrophy goes crazy.
This video could be titled “water vs paracetamol vs EPO”
I'd love to know what Freddies average power was
yeah they should have fitted a power meter to the bike for the test
and gifted it for being a sport
Right around 260. I calculated it from Ollie's, compensating for time and weight.
260W for twelve minutes for a beginner is a massive effort!
@@paulim8703 Yes, he can hold his head high.
@@billinhouston3291 thanks! I wanted to work it out but i was sure how to go about the calculation
Really enjoy the content on the GCN channel . Why don’t you give Freddie a training plan and bring him back in 6-12 months to try again?
Pro: Don't start too hard.
Freddie: Sprints off the line like it'll be over in 200m.
Carrying over ninety kilos up that climb was heroic for a beginner. Congrats for Freddie.
In theory its the same as if any one did it. Its his own legs managing his own weight. Its not a 60kg mans legs on a 90 kg body
@@Thatguy-dc2xu fair enough. But energy reserves do not increase with body mass to the extent that muscle mass does. That is why we do not have people with his phisique in pro competitions.
@@nagylevi3827 understood amd didn't consider it. Interesting
Ollie: "Even his name is lightweight"
hi everyone! thanks for all the comments and suggestions for future vids! the weight handicap idea is great!
I would think that if you pushed yourself on VO2 Max efforts over the next three weeks (40/20 micro-intervals, 2min-8min over on's, and threw in some 4x8 threshold work), you'd absolutely smash 6 minutes in a retest next month. You have more talent than you give yourself credit for.
for a proper science experiment shouldnt it be a watts/kg handicap as a rider that can push 400 watts with an additional 30 kg can still push harder than a rider that can push 150 watts
@Oliver Bridgewood send Jeremy out to Colorado (or Si again) and they can do a gravel version against this 100kg fred, solicitor (we call us lawyers), father of two. Twist for the western states version: our short climbs are 600m. Even with the advantage of living at 2200m ASL, I’d still receive my backside on a platter.
@@nicholassmith831 good idea for a follow up vid. thanks. 👍🏼
Andrew Feather seems ridiculously unperturbed by this climb at the end.
And the beginner had a pain face straight away. Poor guy.
Welp.
Some say he still has the pain face...
@@gcn it did seem like a resting face for him strictly from this video.
If you race back down the hill Freddie might win. Gravity is your friend going down the hill.
My new favourite cycling video. Freddie, you've got lots of company out there!