Soon be you have an allowance of 1000 Miles per month 12,000 per year. Well give or take 50-100 Miles safety buffer, but Go over that and your Fined £250-£1,000 depending on their judgement. Wanna go on a long distance drive to see family? Well we suggest you use public transportation for the moth to be able to use your Miles elsewhere.
@@GU__NI bear in mind very poor public transportation might I add or at least outside of London... It's non existent in most parts ... Well really bad buss timetable and unpredictable if shows up, your Lucky if you have a subway or something like that otherwise the majority of us are screwed
Notice how the slaves are happy to bring their fellow slaves down with them? The mindset of the average is others have to pay the same as I do? How about none of us pay the protection racket to the biggest gang in the land?
We didn't vote for this government.It stole a false mandate of over 400 seats from less than 10 million votes. The whole ethos of modern government has changed to anti democracy.Doing what the majority want is called 'populist'. It was obvious that Labour is a rabid ideologically anti car use pro public transport and cycling Socialist movement. The Tories don't know what they are but seriously infiltrated by the former. Which is why they firstly gave the powers to Livingstone and Khan in the London Government Act and then allowed London to be a Socialist run enclave.
@@DavidJohnson-yg8qm Have a look at the labour manifesto and tell me where it says they're going to introduce pay per mile, I repeat this guy is scare mongering
Thanks Bob, I just thought about it. Deliveries have gone up enough as it is. Sadly, that makes Amazon prime, next day free delivery more tempting. Lining more of Amazon pockets.
@@Frebs01 You have clearly not thought about it very hard. If we get pay per mile, who do you think wil pay for those extra delivery costs? Once again, think about it
Labour making it easier to claim benefits and incentivising slackers by increasing the cost to businesses and hard working families. Labour in offices you may as well stay at home and work out how to live of benefits
You voted to get the Torries out so don’t complain because you got the Torries out and you are not happy with Labour so what do you want, and don’t say Reform because you can’t trust them ither
@@johnfisher7587 You don't trust Reform but over 4 million votes did so where are all the seats owed to reflect that vote v Labour's 411 seats for less than 10 million votes.Its obvious that we now have to progress to a post democratic era in which no political faction has the right to dictate policy on another.In this case the right to private transport use and property ownership isn't up for compromise regarding Socialist dictatorship and theft.
@@johnfisher7587 ... who is your comment referring to? Me? I didn't state who i voted for or even that i voted for that matter. All but one of the parties give allegiance to UN Agenda 2030 (if you know what that is) and the WEF and its un mandated plans for you and i.
Why are people surprised ? It's been all over the Internet, khan was asked about it ( project det roit ) he said he'd never heard of it. A few days after the election he announced private driveways were to be taxed. I bet if he was asked the day before the election he'd say he had no plans for that either. I can't believe people believe what they say, just look at what they have always done historically and expect more of the same.
The political parties all have the same agenda so it doesn’t matter who you vote for. The people who feel that they are governed by a fair system are the ones being manipulated.
@@ViperzDesign I don't live in Sofia, but have made some visits. It's beautiful as is Yambol, Plovdiv & Burgas. Leva pegged to Euro at 2 Leva= 1 Euro. Seems OK so far. Euro likely coming in a year or two.
Please explain what you feel the connection is between the "jab" and the conclusion you reached regarding Road Tolls etc. I don't understand where the connection is between choosing to get vaccinated, and believing (or not) that Road Tolls would happen.....
@@rangersnut That's not an answer. It's just your opinion and nothing more... The WEF are not a legislative organisation, and do not have the power or authority to introduce or enforce new laws or regulations in any nation. Here in Britain, any new law has to receive Royal Assent before it passes to the statute book and becomes law. Your meaningless reply is just that, meaningless..... Please tell us all what you know and understand about the WEF and it's aims..... And these "tactics" by the wealthy on the "sheeple". What exactly would the point of those be? What is the ultimate aim of the "wealthy" people you mentioned? To me, it just sounds as though you've been spending way too long reading crap on Farcebook and Twatter.
@Brian-om2hh Sounds like you are in denial. The WEF in Davos is where all the financial elite plan there visions for tommorows world as the wealthy want it to be. The aim is full control of what you do, what you put in your mouth, where you can go, how you get there, these technologies like electric cars can be remotely accessed. They don't want anyone to own anything. They want all the plebs(everyone that is not them) in small eco houses, working like human cattle with, no real rights until they drop, eating bio engineered foods like insects, fake meats they produce and they keep all the best of the worlds resources for themselves. The green initiatives are nothing more than an excuse to profiteer. I am all for respecting the planet etc, but it's the financial elite and their decisions that cause damage via their factories, lithium fields etc for electric cars. Their big decisions hurt the planet way more. Your average person gives back to the planet if they live, plant some plants and generally keeps their local area clean. I don't use twitter or any other form of social media. Many of their strategies are formed by Sun Tzu, and currently old propaganda strategy like agitprop is used to agitate the masses and turn people against each other. We are in an age of disinformation, where the line of information and news is fully bought and paid for and controlled by them. They have a constant window into everyones lives by the crappy platforms like twitter and others. If they can distract, confuse or cause mass fear in the masses these are all great control devices for keeping the majority under their thumb. They know people won't fight for them in wars anymore, so my prediction for the future us a series of global civil wars, where stock markets crash, people turn against each other and then they send in a militant force to restore order and eventually one day they will behin their new world order. The royals, the politicians are nothing more than paid puppets and remnants of an old world. Corporations and banks run everything. Behind that are families who have run the planet for generations, that is the financial elite. The real rulers of this world. You can discuss what I say if you like. In my view Covid was a compliance test, putting in zones in London where you can and can't go and pay per mile being touted us all a test to see how much more control of everyone's lives they can get away with. Give an inch and they will take a mile, and for every mile they take you will pay for it
But as sales volumes of petrol and diesel fall, an alternative will be needed. Which is why the tax burden will switch from fuel to actual road *usage*
Pay per mile...we all still need to get to work, my round trip to & from work is 70 miles, I cannot stop travelling to & from work. The government will tax me more for driving to & from work, a habit I cannot change or control, therefore my 70 mile journey to & from work won't change.. HOW ON EARTH WILL THIS HELP THE ENVIRONMENT 🤔🤔🤔 FXXK LABOUR, WELL DONE TO THOSE OF YOU WHO VOTED LABOUR 👏🏽👏🏽 WE NOW HAVE TO WAIT 5 YEARS TO VOTE REFORM !!!! 😡
Why is the solution to every issue emptying the pockets of the population? We've nothing left to give! I can barely afford to drive to work as it is. Public transport is not an option for my shift times and location.
@@spongebob8678..hm..then rent your house lease your car transfer all your money abroad..pay with your credit cards..will own nothing and be happy..there be nothing to take off ya..that’s what I do actually but planning on moving abroad soon anyway..good luck👍
TheDripSpotter OUR Highways as Sovereign People. OUR Ancesters Built & Paid for these Roads , as we Do through OUR Voluntary Taxes We Pay. they're called the Kings Highway so they can travel them for free...
You'll have no choice. Ultimately, any charges/fines owed, would be deducted at source from your earnings via PAYE, just as some unpaid fines and child support funding is now.....
What i find crazy is that there are still people out there, and you'd have to be "really out there", that still believe this whole EV push is about "green".
IF THERE WAS A CHARGE OF 20 PENCE A MILE, THEN A ROUND TRIP TO LONDON FROM BRADFORD WOULD COST ABOUT £80 !!! PLUS FUEL, £150 TOTAL !!! FOR THE AVERAGE DRIVER WILL HAVE TO PAY NEARLY £2000 !!! HAULAGE COMPANIES WILL JUST PASS THIS EXTRA ONTO GOODS AND SERVICES, SO IN THE END, ALL CONSUMERS WILL PAY FOR FOOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS TRANSPORTED BY ROAD !!! THIS WILL ALSO PUSH INFLATION UP, JOBS WILL BE LOST !!! NOT TO MENTION NEGATIVE IMPACT ON BUSINESSES.THE MAIN GAME PLAN IS THAT THEY WANT TO PUSH PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS, HENCE ALL THE CYCLE LANES !!! SO THE WEALTHY CAN WAFT ALONG IN THEIR EXPENSIVE LIMOUSINES ON EMPTY ROADS !!! NOT HAVING TO WAIT IN TRAFFIC !!! MEANWHILE THE POOR WILL HAVE TO STRUGGLE ON BIKES AND BUSES !!!
Soon be you have an allowance of 1000 Miles per month 12,000 per year. Well give or take 50-100 Miles safety buffer, but Go over that and your Fined £250-£1,000 depending on their judgement. Wanna go on a long distance drive to see family? Well we suggest you use public transportation for the moth to be able to use your Miles elsewhere.
I reckon that once people are forced out of cars they would lose so much in taxes, so I can see a future where bicycles have reg plates and are charged tax just like cars are today.
@@no-one-no-one or they push it onto food or goods... Or something else we use daily. They be like oh but you would of paid it anyway so nothing has changed just it's in a different form 😔 that or every person still pays road tax, cos yanno you gotta use public transport so you can't expect bus companies to pay for the roads now can we BS... Imagine no cars but you still pay road tax as a form of public transport licence to use kinda thing and pay per mile on a bus... Or train or something stupid..
They are using green initiatives as a smokescreen to push for more control over people. They don't want most people having freedoms, the ability to travel freely and they want to know you are under the thumb at all times. Authoritarianism is being pushed as green initiatives. The rich want all the best resources and experiences sealed off and free from the average pleb, while the average pleb is like human cattle, productive for them, with barely just enough to be entertained, productive and docile and the inabikity to mive around freely. They are also coming for what we eat soon, with lab grown meats and insect diet pushed. Whilst they eat the very best of foods. Using green initiatives they will push where folk can go, where people live, what they wear, what they put in their mouths. They are coming for total control and MSM is being used to pull the wool. People need to resist and push back. The masses are a sleeping giant that frightens the wealthy the idea of people being awake to what they are doing. That is why they keep everyone divided by division politics, and why there is a constant air of issues around race, gender and any other societal string they can pull on, using the fincial elites bought and paid for news channels and social media channels.
As Sovereign people of The United Kingdom aren't meant to Pay Any Levies (Taxes) as part of Our Unalienavble Rights , & Govt. UK is a Business . & Businesses can't Enforce TAX of Any Kind , Why are WE paying Taxes based on Commercial Laws ( Acts & Statutes of Parliament )
@@fredfred2363 Council Tax was Never Granted Royal Assent as it was called a Levy by the Geek that Drew up the paperwork for it to be Granted Royal Assent. That's why it's an Act & Statute of parliament as well... Have you ever Consented to it. ...?
@@Striker0760they are putting road tax on them as well as pay per mile, I think it's gonna be £160 road tax and pay per mile gonna cover fuel duty loss, lucky newer cars are digital, GPS and geo fencing, so they know your mileage
@@adogmcdizzle very true, but they ares till going to tax the shit out of the motorist because we are easy targets until we all stand together and say no more
Here in Belgium where I live (Wallonia) the government has decided to multiply the price of electricity by 5 during the evening to force people to charge their cars during.non peak hours. But this will impact absolutely everybody! It means everyone will have to pay more for those EV's owners. That's absolutely disgusting!
People need to grow a back bone and tell these people who think they are in charge, that the people won't pay and won't stand for being treated like this. It's not being green, it being controlling and profiteering off people.
Not only pay per mile there are reports that Khan now wants to tax your driveways due to the flooding risk. More like they don't like the money they're are losing on street parking charges. Labour are crap for normal people. Get them out next time.
Looks like my Triumph 2.5 will be getting more use. I wonder how they charge pay per mile with a car that still has points and everything else mechanical!
i also have a classic, they could try to force is to have a GPS transponde thingy plugged into the cigar socket or whatever or even done on mileage between mots (which means they will try to make mot compulsory again on classics) all we can do is ... register our cars to a made up name at a friends address in a different town.
@@willdatsun You'll find most cars built in the last decade or so will already have a tracking facility built in.... They won't use the MOT to enforce it as some unscrupulous folk don't bother with MOT's.....
its another way of waging war on motorists, but its also going to raise the cost of living even higher as the fee will increase just like the present tax but at a higher rate
Spot on , that’s how it works , the more you tax transport , the more that costs transfer to everything in the country, you tax transport , everything that needs transport will cost more which will raise the cost of everything.
Well those "proper" cars you speak of will be no more after the end of 2029. At least not new ones.... The problem is that those proper cars use fossil fuel, which is a finite resource. One day it will be gone....
The Tories are just as bad. Both sides of the same coin. There is no democracy. It is an illusion, held over a corrupt and broken system, projected at the public in my view. Democracy is smoke and mirrors, with a puppet show on the side. The idea of democracy is great, it would be great if we had it. I don't believe we do.
Once it's expanded (and it will be), costs will soar as anything transported will need to have it included in invoicing to the end consumer. Elections have consequences.
The govt seem to want to restrict travelling as much as possible. I can't understand how that'd help them or anybody else. It'll destroy the economy for one thing. How do they expect to fund their extravagant gravy train?
@@and3583 carparks are getting asset stripped in tourist towns which is insanity, when questioning a local councillor, the shill actually said, "We'll all be riding bicycles" with a straight face!
I can see something coming if fewer people drive revenue will also be lost just the same in fewer car sales , less revenue on petrol and diesel taxes on sales lost . So in the end the government will still loose
@@painfulorwhat8872 The other thing I have been thinking about is childcare cost . On the radio there has chat about falling birth rate , Not enough young people to grow up , work and pay taxes . If childcare is unaffordable . less folk having children . The governments cant have it both it both ways
The so-called Laffer curve; you initially gain some extra revenue but then lose more. When maggie Thatcher came to power in 1979, income tax was reduced on the wealthier; the result was that they returned to the UK and more tax was collected.
@@oxfamshopwhat makes you think the govern-me-nt (mind) wants you? What if taxes are just a form of slavery. If all the people are on some form of benefit, are they are easier to control?
They're not "urged to" they've been instructed to by their overlords. None of this is a surprise. You only had to read all their bullshit to see their plans.
@@melvinplant8637 So *who* will take away all the houses, businesses and cars from everyone, and what will they do with them? They shouldn't actually have them, because as you stated, you won't own anything. So where will all these things go, and how will the nation's economy sustain itself if nobody owns anything? Where would you live if nobody owned a house for you to rent? Where would you work if nobody owned a business?
I emigrated out of the UK in March 2002, it was apparent, even back then, the way things were heading for the motorist, I think I made the right decision.
I see the rise in classic cars for the use in urban areas and out in the country where Sat Nav's are not installed! where they are exempt from ULEZ etc.
So if you live in a remote area and they cancelled all the buses so you HAVE to use a car? I already pay per mile my fuel, tyres, brakes etc are all taxed already. Yeah thanks!!
Nope. If they pass it as a law, then it's lawful. If they passed a law tomorrow allowing themselves to empty your bank account, then they'd do it. I'd consider a smaller vehicle...
And a lot of volunteer drivers will be taken of the roads and as a consequence the nhs waiting times will disappear because people can’t get to appointments……
@@asensibleyoungman2978 government only allows a specific pence per mile….it won’t go up ….government is cutting back on everything, the nhs don’t pay for it….you don’t get pay as such as it’s a voluntary thing
And what will the benefits and advantages be to the government of doing that? What's the ultimate aim - and don't say control. Control for what purpose? To what end?
What is happening especially in London now they are talking about paying per mile I'm really surprised that the people of London aren't up in arms and out marching in their millions to stop these Taxes on the motorists
I have no problem with pay per mile- but ONLY if ALL fuel duty is removed from diesel and petrol. But we all know they'll be double dipping... Road tax. Fuel duty. Car insurance premium tax. And now PPM. No. Just no.
Let them try. I have never paid ULEZ and won’t be paying any other schemes to flog motorists. I’m not receiving any fines or going to prison. It’s very simple people….DO NOT PAY
@@keithmarshall7715..they can take both my cars..well actually they not mine..the finance company own them..sold up nearly all my assets..pretty much all the money abroad..using my classic car as daily atm with limited mileage on my classic insurance policy but my speedometer doesn’t work properly 😉 but later in the year planning to take back to my old country and re register it over there..we are at WAR..
Eventually, you'll find any unpaid fines or tolls will be deducted at source from your pay via PAYE, just as many unpaid fines or child allowances already are.
ICE vehicles already pay per mile, with the tax on the fuel. Fewer miles, or more economical vehicles pay less. Rather than add complication to vehicles, and creating a reporting system, and a collection system, the fuel can be taxed in the same way petrol is. Domestic electricity has a lower rate of VAT applied, as we need power in our homes for basic living. Electricity used for charging EVs should not be part of this. Rather than reducing the VAT on vehicle charging, the same taxes that are added to petrol and diesel could be added to vehicle charging costs. Easy to do on public chargers. For home chargers, insist that all home chargers have a separate meter, to record the electricity used for charging the vehicle. That portion of the electricity bill can have the fuel tax added, and then the normal higher rate of VAT added, just like petrol.
I believe that all home charging installations for the last couple of years have to be separately (smart) metered. This gives almost infinite possibilities for different levels of vat and tariffs, which can be adjusted on a whim.
Some might argue that £billions in taxpayer's money should not have been handed to the oil industry in subsidies over the decades. If it wasn't for those, your petrol and diesel would be 4 times the price it is. What's your take on that? If you take issue with the much cheaper cost of running an EV when charged at home, then get an EV and charge it at home. Problem solved! EV ownership is not exclusive to particular groups. Even you could have one. If they tried the separate meter trick, thousands of EV owners - me included - would simply charge overnight using a normal 3 pin domestic socket. That would give me 40 to 50 miles overnight, which is ample for me the following day. They wouldn't know whether you'd sat and watched TV all night using a 3kw electric heater to stay warm, or charged an EV up.....
When our kids were at school we drove nearly 18,000 miles a year, mostly taking them to school. No school bus or public transport available. Way too far and to dangerous to cycle. Pay per mile would hit people living in rural areas unfairly.
How much more are they going to charge you to drive. Fuel tax, congestion charge, ulez then they’re going to charge to go over those two bridges in London. Are the government paying all these charges. If they are it will all be going on expenses. They won’t be happy until they’ve got every penny. This is what you get with a Labour government.
It bet it will Soon be you have an allowance of 1000 Miles per month 12,000 per year. Well give or take 50-100 Miles safety buffer, but Go over that and your Fined £250-£1,000 depending on their judgement. Wanna go on a long distance drive to see family? Well we suggest you use public transportation for the month to be able to use your Miles elsewhere.
@@Chappers.Gaming I’d not thought of that but I wouldn’t be surprised. Nothing surprises me with Starmer. I bet he lays in bed at night thinking what he can tax next.
@@kayburnett6792 forgive me if I'm wrong on some that is already taxed but maybe, Gym tax, pet tax, push bike tax, scooter tax, sports tax inc anything sports related on tv, live steaming tax, tax on your annual tax rebate for the tax you overpaid ( you have earned £1,000 on over tax payments here is a check for £800 plus Tax ) hmmm let's what else... 🤔 Pay per mile to use your car then plus an annual fee per Year for road tax again for the privilege of owning a car for the registration for on the road but not driving it tax.... Man if they do any of this I'd move...
How can you possibly know what people who chose an EV thought? Have you spoken to each and every one of them? I can tell you that in the 3+ years I've owned mine, I've saved over £7k by not buying petrol... Plus I charge up at home for around £6 per week...
15 years ago, I read an article that said we used to work till Tuesday night to pay our taxes, now we work till Wednesday dinner. The percentage of money out of our wage that we pay the government goes up year on year. The people with the most disposable income is the motorist. Pay per mile has been discussed now for over a decade. But in orders to do this across the board they would need tracker devices installed in all cars and have the government monitor its movement and charge accordingly. This is something the government want yet there is huge opposition from the public. They don't want their every movement tracked
Oh good, they are going to eliminate the taxes on diesel and petrol? That'll make filling up way cheaper. No? They are just going to add yet an additional charge. And how would it be enforced? They going to check, and trust, the accuracy of the odometers?
Ironic that motorists, surely among the most consistent earners and generators of wealth in Britain, should be perpetually taken advantage of. Clearly they need their own union-like organisation and the type of influence in politics which might ensure an end to their being robbed. Indeed, they clearly need a greater influence on decision making too which is currently nothing short of vindictive.
So, how will the nation's economy sustain itself if nobody owned anything? Who will take all the houses, businesses and cars from people, and what will they do with them? Where will you live and work if nobody owns any property for you to rent? Where will you work if nobody owns a business? What will the government do about the £35 billion in ta revenue it rakes in from the motorist each year? And the millions of lost jobs due to the car making industry going (800'00 jobs in the UK alone there? And then there are the jobs lost in oil refineries, tanker drivers, petrol stations, car dealerships, tyre fitting depots, garage workshops, the AA and RAC motorway services etc. Millions would lose their jobs. How would this benefit the government or the economy? Please explain.....
Whats wrong with pay per mile as long as tax is removed from fuel? Let the people who use the roads the most pay for them, why should someone who does 1000 mile a year pay the same as someone who does 100,000 miles!
The pay per mile will be what is in use in some states in the US, when you enter the highway or motorway, a device camera will read your number plate, then, more you stay, higher the cost will be. The goal is to make access to vehicles very expensive and limit the amount of road users.
If you have off road parking (about 65% of us) and a variable electricity tariff you can recharge an EV so cheaply it works out a 2p per mile, compared with fuel costs of about 12p per mile for a combustion car. The reason car fuel duty is set at the level it is is because if it were lower car usage and traffic would increase causing ever more congestion - this is a known, not a theoretical thing. You'd have ever more people driving more often ever greater distances, living further from where they basically need to be for work, family, school etc.. If the financial constraint is relaxed we end up paying the price in terms of time - more congestion. Some form of road pricing is inevitable. The flexibility it could provide means at least it can be used to encourage journeys to be made at off-peak times, with say, zero charge one or two days a week. We need to use cars in a more intellligent way; it's nuts to charge the same for rural motoring as urban car commuting where alternatives make far more sense. Doing nothing is not an option. I not saying it will be popular, but it is inevitable; sadly, when it comes to discussing cars some people's IQ drops about 20 points, so, rant away....
I can see the whole country shutting down. Due to the fact that the government wanted to centralise everything some years ago many people now have to commute to work. Many families are already struggling trying to make ends meet on low wages sometimes working two jobs creating further commuting. Pay by mile is going to be a tax too far which will make going to work uneconomic when they can get more money by claiming benefits. People are already depressed about lack of quality of life. They struggle with no hope of getting their own home and not being able to afford to have children. The UK is fast loosing it's good feeling factor.
They haven't thought this through at all, start pay per mile scam on EVs then that will be the final nail in the coffin for them. The take up is already taking a nose dive!
Wouldn’t need a network of cameras, an easy way to introduce this would be the recorded mileage on the MOT, after which a bill would come through the post. Maybe even a ‘mileage check’ every 6moths at an MOT station.
But as sales volumes of fuel reduce, an alternative will be needed. That's where Road Tolls come in. The tax burden will move from fuel to actual road *usage*
The British motorists pays far to much now to drive on this dreadful road systems they need to address this it will be their poll tax and we no what happened there
Thing is how do you implement it ? I think to start with only modern cars van do it, or there might be incentives such as lower insurance, until everyone is forced to have it and its expensive for everyone.
its all about removing peoples cars but they need you to volunteer yourself off the road, agenda 2021 created in 1992 by the UN wants all private vehicles off the road by 2030
Once you start pay for mile the price will never come down it will always go up, it's about screwing the people
As always 🤷🏻♂️
Soon be you have an allowance of 1000 Miles per month 12,000 per year. Well give or take 50-100 Miles safety buffer, but Go over that and your Fined £250-£1,000 depending on their judgement.
Wanna go on a long distance drive to see family? Well we suggest you use public transportation for the moth to be able to use your Miles elsewhere.
Of course you nailed it, so much, that people have to use the transport that they are enforced to use.
@@GU__NI bear in mind very poor public transportation might I add or at least outside of London... It's non existent in most parts ... Well really bad buss timetable and unpredictable if shows up, your Lucky if you have a subway or something like that otherwise the majority of us are screwed
Nah only you as the government want to get you as you are so rich - durrr?
Just another day then in the asylum and the inmates voted for it. Why even bother any more UK's done!
We already have pay per mile.....it's called fuel tax.
Exactly.
@@dizzy2020 have you had an electric bill lately?😁
@@markriding1267 True but that money is going to the fat cat's at the utility companies.
Notice how the slaves are happy to bring their fellow slaves down with them? The mindset of the average is others have to pay the same as I do? How about none of us pay the protection racket to the biggest gang in the land?
Oh no they love taxing you twice! Look at fuel itself two taxes in vat and fuel duty and everyone just accepts it and makes no complaints 🤷🏻♂️
What happened to the £28billion "lost" to track and trace? Whose tax free offshore accounts is it sitting in?
I thought it was even more than that. £37 billion?
@@113msaunders For a badly written MS Excel spreadsheet
Um. Eh? 🤔 I cam tell you this....
Definitely not _mine!_
@@ouroborosirvington sureee that's what you want us to think 😂
8.7 Billion for convid . A nice little earner for those at the house of conmen
We need to go back to “dumb” cars so we can’t be tracked.
Lol. So you drive about without a phone?
you can buy a dumb phone too! LOL...
ANPR is all they need...
We've already got dumb politicians 😊
Mot miles tracked
We get what we voted against. You labour voters were well warned.
Totally unfair voting policies, they should have kept "going to the polls" until at least 60% of the people in the UK voted... It's a total scam !!
We didn't vote for this government.It stole a false mandate of over 400 seats from less than 10 million votes.
The whole ethos of modern government has changed to anti democracy.Doing what the majority want is called 'populist'.
It was obvious that Labour is a rabid ideologically anti car use pro public transport and cycling Socialist movement.
The Tories don't know what they are but seriously infiltrated by the former.
Which is why they firstly gave the powers to Livingstone and Khan in the London Government Act and then allowed London to be a Socialist run enclave.
It’s not labour policy,this guy is scare mongering
@@raymondelliott2280 no he's not, just you wait and see
@@DavidJohnson-yg8qm Have a look at the labour manifesto and tell me where it says they're going to introduce pay per mile, I repeat this guy is scare mongering
Pay per mile will result in MASSIVELY increased costs of EVERYTHING. Why? Think about that.....
Because they want us off the road and confined to "15-minute cities." The bugs as food are on the way, too.
Thanks Bob, I just thought about it.
Deliveries have gone up enough as it is.
Sadly, that makes Amazon prime, next day free delivery more tempting.
Lining more of Amazon pockets.
@@Frebs01 You have clearly not thought about it very hard. If we get pay per mile, who do you think wil pay for those extra delivery costs? Once again, think about it
Correct, food prices will go up, and inflation will go up! People will suffer, the Tories will win the next election
ONBH
What do you think the ULEZ cameras were for ? ....this was the real reason
and to contain you in your 15 minute zone
@@The.Toaster So Kahns representative on the radio was living then when he said all those cameras need is a software update
let pay per mile apply exclusively to the Labour voters who are responsible for this government.
Labour making it easier to claim benefits and incentivising slackers by increasing the cost to businesses and hard working families. Labour in offices you may as well stay at home and work out how to live of benefits
You voted to get the Torries out so don’t complain because you got the Torries out and you are not happy with Labour so what do you want, and don’t say Reform because you can’t trust them ither
@@johnfisher7587same a$$ other cheek 😅
@@johnfisher7587
You don't trust Reform but over 4 million votes did so where are all the seats owed to reflect that vote v Labour's 411 seats for less than 10 million votes.Its obvious that we now have to progress to a post democratic era in which no political faction has the right to dictate policy on another.In this case the right to private transport use and property ownership isn't up for compromise regarding Socialist dictatorship and theft.
@@johnfisher7587 ... who is your comment referring to? Me? I didn't state who i voted for or even that i voted for that matter. All but one of the parties give allegiance to UN Agenda 2030 (if you know what that is) and the WEF and its un mandated plans for you and i.
Fuel duty including vat is currently £2.90 a gallon. Say you get 35 mpg that's 8.3p a mile. EV car drivers, they're coming after you.
*All* vehicles will pay Road Tolls, not just EV drivers.
Yep tax the tax payer more so we can keep all the illegal immigrants in a comfy lifestyle and of course build more mosques
Hey mr bigot mosques are funded by the muslim community so stop spreading lies !
Ridiculous,we pay enough to drive as it is
But at least with Road Tolls, you'll have the option of not using your car as much, and paying less. You don't have that with VED....
Any government introducing that policy loses all trust at the next election
Only another 5 years to wait then
My trust was gone on day one.
Why are people surprised ?
It's been all over the Internet, khan was asked about it ( project det roit ) he said he'd never heard of it.
A few days after the election he announced private driveways were to be taxed. I bet if he was asked the day before the election he'd say he had no plans for that either. I can't believe people believe what they say, just look at what they have always done historically and expect more of the same.
The political parties all have the same agenda so it doesn’t matter who you vote for. The people who feel that they are governed by a fair system are the ones being manipulated.
Every bit of news I hear from the UK makes me happy to have left!
Where have you gone?
You lucky man, wish I could too but am trapped due to the Brexit now.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 I'm in Bulgaria. Warm, inexpensive and a zero-woke area!
@@SimonWallwork How is sofia, Is лева still an ok currency to use? Also mountains are beautiful
@@ViperzDesign I don't live in Sofia, but have made some visits. It's beautiful as is Yambol, Plovdiv & Burgas. Leva pegged to Euro at 2 Leva= 1 Euro. Seems OK so far. Euro likely coming in a year or two.
If you didn’t think this was going to happen .. u must be a believer in the special jab
Please explain what you feel the connection is between the "jab" and the conclusion you reached regarding Road Tolls etc. I don't understand where the connection is between choosing to get vaccinated, and believing (or not) that Road Tolls would happen.....
@@rangersnut That's not an answer. It's just your opinion and nothing more... The WEF are not a legislative organisation, and do not have the power or authority to introduce or enforce new laws or regulations in any nation. Here in Britain, any new law has to receive Royal Assent before it passes to the statute book and becomes law. Your meaningless reply is just that, meaningless..... Please tell us all what you know and understand about the WEF and it's aims..... And these "tactics" by the wealthy on the "sheeple". What exactly would the point of those be? What is the ultimate aim of the "wealthy" people you mentioned? To me, it just sounds as though you've been spending way too long reading crap on Farcebook and Twatter.
@Brian-om2hh Sounds like you are in denial. The WEF in Davos is where all the financial elite plan there visions for tommorows world as the wealthy want it to be. The aim is full control of what you do, what you put in your mouth, where you can go, how you get there, these technologies like electric cars can be remotely accessed. They don't want anyone to own anything. They want all the plebs(everyone that is not them) in small eco houses, working like human cattle with, no real rights until they drop, eating bio engineered foods like insects, fake meats they produce and they keep all the best of the worlds resources for themselves. The green initiatives are nothing more than an excuse to profiteer. I am all for respecting the planet etc, but it's the financial elite and their decisions that cause damage via their factories, lithium fields etc for electric cars. Their big decisions hurt the planet way more. Your average person gives back to the planet if they live, plant some plants and generally keeps their local area clean.
I don't use twitter or any other form of social media. Many of their strategies are formed by Sun Tzu, and currently old propaganda strategy like agitprop is used to agitate the masses and turn people against each other.
We are in an age of disinformation, where the line of information and news is fully bought and paid for and controlled by them. They have a constant window into everyones lives by the crappy platforms like twitter and others. If they can distract, confuse or cause mass fear in the masses these are all great control devices for keeping the majority under their thumb.
They know people won't fight for them in wars anymore, so my prediction for the future us a series of global civil wars, where stock markets crash, people turn against each other and then they send in a militant force to restore order and eventually one day they will behin their new world order. The royals, the politicians are nothing more than paid puppets and remnants of an old world. Corporations and banks run everything. Behind that are families who have run the planet for generations, that is the financial elite. The real rulers of this world. You can discuss what I say if you like.
In my view Covid was a compliance test, putting in zones in London where you can and can't go and pay per mile being touted us all a test to see how much more control of everyone's lives they can get away with. Give an inch and they will take a mile, and for every mile they take you will pay for it
We don't need governments
I' always questioned as to why we allow 650 MP's (paid and bought for) to run our lives. If we don't consent there is very little they can do.
@@TrevorDodd-ev1sx yep, I never have and never will vote
Oh yes we do!
@@cefnonn 😂
@@lunn77 You have absolutely no reason to complain about anything then....because you've never exercised your right to bring change.
This country is getting so depressing!!
Not getting depressing already has been for some time .
People had the choice to change , when they voted.
Unfortunately now we will ALL pay for labour's tax rises.
Apparently this is the most depressed country in the world.
We already pay per mile it's called fuel duty the more miles you do the more you pay
Then came the battery machines.
But as sales volumes of petrol and diesel fall, an alternative will be needed. Which is why the tax burden will switch from fuel to actual road *usage*
The Labour government will work hard to find new means for taxing the public.
Taxing the poor and workingclass you mean
Next election?
Uk government has always been like this. Red or blue.
Didn't labour leave a note 14 years ago saying the treasury is empty.. they'll do it again..
@@TachyonDriver it has been like this for the last 1000 years of UK government.
Pay per mile...we all still need to get to work, my round trip to & from work is 70 miles, I cannot stop travelling to & from work. The government will tax me more for driving to & from work, a habit I cannot change or control, therefore my 70 mile journey to & from work won't change..
HOW ON EARTH WILL THIS HELP THE ENVIRONMENT 🤔🤔🤔
FXXK LABOUR, WELL DONE TO THOSE OF YOU WHO VOTED LABOUR 👏🏽👏🏽
WE NOW HAVE TO WAIT 5 YEARS TO VOTE REFORM !!!! 😡
Cycle to work mate 🤣
@newsoftheday420 - you're obviously one of those Keir Starmer worshippers 😏🤮
@nav-1047 Do We have to wait 5 yr to get Rid of Govt.. ? Check out The Compact of The Convention of the Assembly of the 3 estates...
I do agree I was warning people not to vote labour. We need shake the whole system. "Reform" is the only alternative.
When I watched the election night coverage and saw Sad iq Khan standing next to Keir Stammer I knew all would end badly !
Why is the solution to every issue emptying the pockets of the population? We've nothing left to give! I can barely afford to drive to work as it is. Public transport is not an option for my shift times and location.
You WILL have nothing and be happy.
@@davidbrown2571 just gonna start a tribe and go and live in a cave, the government aren't invited but you are if you're down! 👍
Because the government has nowhere else to get taxes from. The government itself has no money. They get what they need from the taxpayer.....
Don't pay, the prisons are full what the heck will they do to us,unfortunately we are mostly law abiding in this country and put up with this rubbish.
I'm sure I've heard that they have been building prisons, but they are not for criminals, they are for you and me ?
Not for long
The sheep are still asleep!
havent you noticed the police thugs will take your car and auction it off..if you dont pay...
@@spongebob8678..hm..then rent your house lease your car transfer all your money abroad..pay with your credit cards..will own nothing and be happy..there be nothing to take off ya..that’s what I do actually but planning on moving abroad soon anyway..good luck👍
I never trusted what they said. Their smiles, which never reached their eyes, were too secretive and false.
What a stupendous idea 💡 ... No real point in going to work or paying anymore taxes🤦
I simply will Not Pay It. We have an Ancient Right to travel the Land and the Kings Highway.
TheDripSpotter OUR Highways as Sovereign People. OUR Ancesters Built & Paid for these Roads , as we Do through OUR Voluntary Taxes We Pay. they're called the Kings Highway so they can travel them for free...
You'll have no choice. Ultimately, any charges/fines owed, would be deducted at source from your earnings via PAYE, just as some unpaid fines and child support funding is now.....
Is this Govt trying to get pushed out of office when they’ve only just got in.
Hope so.🤞
You can't push them out of office.
@@Mark-ef2ly of course you can, it happened to the Callaghan government
@@kevinnorthfield5097 he wasn't forced out by the people. It was a vote of no confidence by MPs followed by a general election.
@@Mark-ef2ly it was action by people ‘winter of discontent’ that forced a vote of no confidence and the demise of the government.
What i find crazy is that there are still people out there, and you'd have to be "really out there", that still believe this whole EV push is about "green".
@@paulgee1355 GREEN?ITS ALL JUST A BIG SCAM,SOMEONES MAKING MILLIONS OUT OF THIS CRAP
IF THERE WAS A CHARGE OF 20 PENCE A MILE, THEN A ROUND TRIP TO LONDON FROM BRADFORD WOULD COST ABOUT £80 !!! PLUS FUEL, £150 TOTAL !!! FOR THE AVERAGE DRIVER WILL HAVE TO PAY NEARLY £2000 !!! HAULAGE COMPANIES WILL JUST PASS THIS EXTRA ONTO GOODS AND SERVICES, SO IN THE END, ALL CONSUMERS WILL PAY FOR FOOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS TRANSPORTED BY ROAD !!! THIS WILL ALSO PUSH INFLATION UP, JOBS WILL BE LOST !!! NOT TO MENTION NEGATIVE IMPACT ON BUSINESSES.THE MAIN GAME PLAN IS THAT THEY WANT TO PUSH PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS, HENCE ALL THE CYCLE LANES !!! SO THE WEALTHY CAN WAFT ALONG IN THEIR EXPENSIVE LIMOUSINES ON EMPTY ROADS !!! NOT HAVING TO WAIT IN TRAFFIC !!! MEANWHILE THE POOR WILL HAVE TO STRUGGLE ON BIKES AND BUSES !!!
Soon be you have an allowance of 1000 Miles per month 12,000 per year. Well give or take 50-100 Miles safety buffer, but Go over that and your Fined £250-£1,000 depending on their judgement.
Wanna go on a long distance drive to see family? Well we suggest you use public transportation for the moth to be able to use your Miles elsewhere.
I reckon that once people are forced out of cars they would lose so much in taxes, so I can see a future where bicycles have reg plates and are charged tax just like cars are today.
@@no-one-no-one or they push it onto food or goods... Or something else we use daily. They be like oh but you would of paid it anyway so nothing has changed just it's in a different form 😔 that or every person still pays road tax, cos yanno you gotta use public transport so you can't expect bus companies to pay for the roads now can we BS... Imagine no cars but you still pay road tax as a form of public transport licence to use kinda thing and pay per mile on a bus... Or train or something stupid..
They are using green initiatives as a smokescreen to push for more control over people. They don't want most people having freedoms, the ability to travel freely and they want to know you are under the thumb at all times. Authoritarianism is being pushed as green initiatives. The rich want all the best resources and experiences sealed off and free from the average pleb, while the average pleb is like human cattle, productive for them, with barely just enough to be entertained, productive and docile and the inabikity to mive around freely. They are also coming for what we eat soon, with lab grown meats and insect diet pushed. Whilst they eat the very best of foods. Using green initiatives they will push where folk can go, where people live, what they wear, what they put in their mouths. They are coming for total control and MSM is being used to pull the wool. People need to resist and push back. The masses are a sleeping giant that frightens the wealthy the idea of people being awake to what they are doing. That is why they keep everyone divided by division politics, and why there is a constant air of issues around race, gender and any other societal string they can pull on, using the fincial elites bought and paid for news channels and social media channels.
As Sovereign people of The United Kingdom aren't meant to Pay Any Levies (Taxes) as part of Our Unalienavble Rights , & Govt. UK is a Business . & Businesses can't Enforce TAX of Any Kind , Why are WE paying Taxes based on Commercial Laws ( Acts & Statutes of Parliament )
All tax is fraud.
A similar thing applies to council tax oddly enough. You don't have to pay it, but we are "obliged" to...
Numpty.
@@fredfred2363 Council Tax was Never Granted Royal Assent as it was called a Levy by the Geek that Drew up the paperwork for it to be Granted Royal Assent. That's why it's an Act & Statute of parliament as well... Have you ever Consented to it. ...?
Speak for yourself, I don't pay taxes. Work for yourself, take cash.
guy fawkes had it right - until then.....
The only man to enter the House of Commons with honest intentions.
peasant revolt
really impacts those who live in the country......there are no public services...you try going anywhere on a sunday or after 7 pm...
A tax on rural living! I agree with you. 😮
Henceforth it will be referred to as the Miliband Tax…? As popular as the poll tax ?
People didn't sit back and take poll tax so why not do the same for pay per mile.
Can't be on annual mileage. People take their cars abroad on holiday on occasions. Just charge ev's Road tax
@@Striker0760they are putting road tax on them as well as pay per mile, I think it's gonna be £160 road tax and pay per mile gonna cover fuel duty loss, lucky newer cars are digital, GPS and geo fencing, so they know your mileage
I don’t mind pay per mile as long as they scrap fuel duty, road tax, VAT and give us decent roads to drive on instead of filling their own pockets
You are swapping a known for an unknown
@@adogmcdizzle very true, but they ares till going to tax the shit out of the motorist because we are easy targets until we all stand together and say no more
Here in Belgium where I live (Wallonia) the government has decided to multiply the price of electricity by 5 during the evening to force people to charge their cars during.non peak hours. But this will impact absolutely everybody! It means everyone will have to pay more for those EV's owners.
That's absolutely disgusting!
Tell me what is fair in this world ?
The super rich don't give a dam.
So tell them go do one.
People need to grow a back bone and tell these people who think they are in charge, that the people won't pay and won't stand for being treated like this. It's not being green, it being controlling and profiteering off people.
Not only pay per mile there are reports that Khan now wants to tax your driveways due to the flooding risk. More like they don't like the money they're are losing on street parking charges. Labour are crap for normal people. Get them out next time.
My drive can't flood, as it has a slope on it......
Looks like my Triumph 2.5 will be getting more use. I wonder how they charge pay per mile with a car that still has points and everything else mechanical!
It will be via you insurance or an mot requirement.
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Big brother is watching
i also have a classic, they could try to force is to have a GPS transponde thingy plugged into the cigar socket or whatever or even done on mileage between mots (which means they will try to make mot compulsory again on classics) all we can do is ... register our cars to a made up name at a friends address in a different town.
@@willdatsun You'll find most cars built in the last decade or so will already have a tracking facility built in.... They won't use the MOT to enforce it as some unscrupulous folk don't bother with MOT's.....
its another way of waging war on motorists, but its also going to raise the cost of living even higher as the fee will increase just like the present tax but at a higher rate
Spot on , that’s how it works , the more you tax transport , the more that costs transfer to everything in the country, you tax transport , everything that needs transport will cost more which will raise the cost of everything.
Let's hope this will incentivise people to stop buying stupid EV's & revert back to proper cars.
Well those "proper" cars you speak of will be no more after the end of 2029. At least not new ones.... The problem is that those proper cars use fossil fuel, which is a finite resource. One day it will be gone....
@@Brian-om2hh new cars aren't proper now
Sad Khan kept that tunnel charging quiet too
Liebour doing it's bit for the cost of living crisis... Least I didn't vote for em
The Tories are just as bad. Both sides of the same coin. There is no democracy. It is an illusion, held over a corrupt and broken system, projected at the public in my view.
Democracy is smoke and mirrors, with a puppet show on the side. The idea of democracy is great, it would be great if we had it. I don't believe we do.
Me neither.....
Are you glad you voted Labour?, you should have voted REFORM
I did and everyone I know did. I'd really like to see every single one of those votes because it definitely seems VERY dodgy to me 🤨
Except for millions of Muslims and migrants @@TheManLab7
The original report was 9/7 and the investigation started in 2022 long before labour came to power 😂
Once it's expanded (and it will be), costs will soar as anything transported will need to have it included in invoicing to the end consumer. Elections have consequences.
The govt seem to want to restrict travelling as much as possible. I can't understand how that'd help them or anybody else. It'll destroy the economy for one thing. How do they expect to fund their extravagant gravy train?
@@and3583 carparks are getting asset stripped in tourist towns which is insanity, when questioning a local councillor, the shill actually said, "We'll all be riding bicycles" with a straight face!
Agenda 2030, it's not a conspiracy theory.
You'll own nothing and be happy...... remember that...? Cos its coming.
Labour are all for the wef
They want you ib your 15 minute gulag.. or have you been asleep?
Quite correct. I just don't see the benefits or advantages to the government of restricting travel..... Or the economy as you said....
Soon Labour will start charging for air we breathe.
They should be heavily taxing the charging companies, I understand they charge the drivers what they want and its not regulated.
I can see something coming if fewer people drive revenue will also be lost just the same in fewer car sales , less revenue on petrol and diesel taxes on sales lost . So in the end the government will still loose
Rule 101
If they want money , they just print it !
Maybe you’ve been asleep since 2020
And then they will tax something else.
@@painfulorwhat8872 The other thing I have been thinking about is childcare cost . On the radio there has chat about falling birth rate , Not enough young people to grow up , work and pay taxes . If childcare is unaffordable . less folk having children . The governments cant have it both it both ways
The so-called Laffer curve; you initially gain some extra revenue but then lose more. When maggie Thatcher came to power in 1979, income tax was reduced on the wealthier; the result was that they returned to the UK and more tax was collected.
@@oxfamshopwhat makes you think the govern-me-nt (mind) wants you? What if taxes are just a form of slavery. If all the people are on some form of benefit, are they are easier to control?
They're not "urged to" they've been instructed to by their overlords. None of this is a surprise. You only had to read all their bullshit to see their plans.
You will own nothing and be happy,YEAH RIGHT BAR STEWARDS
@@melvinplant8637 So *who* will take away all the houses, businesses and cars from everyone, and what will they do with them? They shouldn't actually have them, because as you stated, you won't own anything. So where will all these things go, and how will the nation's economy sustain itself if nobody owns anything? Where would you live if nobody owned a house for you to rent? Where would you work if nobody owned a business?
Bladerunners will have a field day just cut the cameras down when it gets expanded to ice cars unfortunately elec cars are already connected
That’s y they want to electrify
Cats outa the bag padwan
Your mileage is already registered at each MOT, so unless you have some way of clocking your mileage, you won't be able to avoid paying the tax.
Everyone must be a bladerunner .
I emigrated out of the UK in March 2002, it was apparent, even back then, the way things were heading for the motorist, I think I made the right decision.
It's a shame we are being forced out of our OWN country, by people in politics that hate the uk.
You made the right decision I assure you .
Depends on where you went.
This was not in labour's manifesto. Bunch of liars.
I see the rise in classic cars for the use in urban areas and out in the country where Sat Nav's are not installed! where they are exempt from ULEZ etc.
How about fixing the roads first ?
This is just the start. Dick Turpin running the UK what did you expect you voted Labour in Be it all on your own vote.
So if you live in a remote area and they cancelled all the buses so you HAVE to use a car? I already pay per mile my fuel, tyres, brakes etc are all taxed already. Yeah thanks!!
I'm already paying £888-50 road tax on my Diesal land-rover and £12-50.per day to ULEZ. As an old age pensioner this is surely unlawful 😮
Nope. If they pass it as a law, then it's lawful. If they passed a law tomorrow allowing themselves to empty your bank account, then they'd do it. I'd consider a smaller vehicle...
If we're going to pay per mile then the vehicle & or fuel tax should be removed. You can't pay tax thrice for the same use of the roads.
There will probably be some sort of transitional period....
And a lot of volunteer drivers will be taken of the roads and as a consequence the nhs waiting times will disappear because people can’t get to appointments……
The NHS will pay them an extra allowance to cover it.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 government only allows a specific pence per mile….it won’t go up ….government is cutting back on everything, the nhs don’t pay for it….you don’t get pay as such as it’s a voluntary thing
REVOLUTION.
Not "urged" by the people.
They don’t want pay per mile - that want complete tracking of people. This is a stepping stone.
And what will the benefits and advantages be to the government of doing that? What's the ultimate aim - and don't say control. Control for what purpose? To what end?
Anyone with any common sense would consider leaving the UK ASAP.
I'm off in October. Good riddance to my native UK
What is happening especially in London now they are talking about paying per mile I'm really surprised that the people of London aren't up in arms and out marching in their millions to stop these Taxes on the motorists
Look at France they let it be known their views.
I have no problem with pay per mile- but ONLY if ALL fuel duty is removed from diesel and petrol.
But we all know they'll be double dipping...
Road tax.
Fuel duty.
Car insurance premium tax.
And now PPM.
No. Just no.
I can see our motorway network going to a toll road setup just like in France for all users
No motorways in Northumbria
Only applies to EVs to start. Anyone believe that they won't expand this to every privately owned vehicle whether EV or ICE?
Er, you'll find it doesn't *only* apply to EV's. *All* vehicles will end up paying Road Tolls....
Let them try.
I have never paid ULEZ and won’t be paying any other schemes to flog motorists. I’m not receiving any fines or going to prison. It’s very simple people….DO NOT PAY
What if a bailiff comes and takes your car?
@@keithmarshall7715
Depends what hill you are willing to die on.
@@keithmarshall7715..they can take both my cars..well actually they not mine..the finance company own them..sold up nearly all my assets..pretty much all the money abroad..using my classic car as daily atm with limited mileage on my classic insurance policy but my speedometer doesn’t work properly 😉 but later in the year planning to take back to my old country and re register it over there..we are at WAR..
Eventually, you'll find any unpaid fines or tolls will be deducted at source from your pay via PAYE, just as many unpaid fines or child allowances already are.
@@boxrecordz Now you're being silly...
I guess that's why ANPR are in every city, town and village in the UK...get rid of these cameras ASAP
Who exactly is urging the government to bring in this tax 🤔?
Their bosses at Davos, the WEF wankers.
The wef, their masters of course
the tories got like 9 million votes and got like 100 seats.. reform got 4 million and got 4.. speak about democracy! 👏
Thats fptp for you …it is democracy…you just dont like it
ICE vehicles already pay per mile, with the tax on the fuel. Fewer miles, or more economical vehicles pay less.
Rather than add complication to vehicles, and creating a reporting system, and a collection system, the fuel can be taxed in the same way petrol is.
Domestic electricity has a lower rate of VAT applied, as we need power in our homes for basic living. Electricity used for charging EVs should not be part of this. Rather than reducing the VAT on vehicle charging, the same taxes that are added to petrol and diesel could be added to vehicle charging costs. Easy to do on public chargers.
For home chargers, insist that all home chargers have a separate meter, to record the electricity used for charging the vehicle. That portion of the electricity bill can have the fuel tax added, and then the normal higher rate of VAT added, just like petrol.
BLOCKADE THE ROADS.
I believe that all home charging installations for the last couple of years have to be separately (smart) metered. This gives almost infinite possibilities for different levels of vat and tariffs, which can be adjusted on a whim.
Some might argue that £billions in taxpayer's money should not have been handed to the oil industry in subsidies over the decades. If it wasn't for those, your petrol and diesel would be 4 times the price it is. What's your take on that? If you take issue with the much cheaper cost of running an EV when charged at home, then get an EV and charge it at home. Problem solved! EV ownership is not exclusive to particular groups. Even you could have one. If they tried the separate meter trick, thousands of EV owners - me included - would simply charge overnight using a normal 3 pin domestic socket. That would give me 40 to 50 miles overnight, which is ample for me the following day. They wouldn't know whether you'd sat and watched TV all night using a 3kw electric heater to stay warm, or charged an EV up.....
@@PhilipBallGarry So pretty much like petrol and diesel prices then?
It's becoming very close to France 1879.
When our kids were at school we drove nearly 18,000 miles a year, mostly taking them to school. No school bus or public transport available. Way too far and to dangerous to cycle. Pay per mile would hit people living in rural areas unfairly.
How much more are they going to charge you to drive. Fuel tax, congestion charge, ulez then they’re going to charge to go over those two bridges in London. Are the government paying all these charges. If they are it will all be going on expenses. They won’t be happy until they’ve got every penny. This is what you get with a Labour government.
It bet it will Soon be you have an allowance of 1000 Miles per month 12,000 per year. Well give or take 50-100 Miles safety buffer, but Go over that and your Fined £250-£1,000 depending on their judgement.
Wanna go on a long distance drive to see family? Well we suggest you use public transportation for the month to be able to use your Miles elsewhere.
@@Chappers.Gaming I’d not thought of that but I wouldn’t be surprised. Nothing surprises me with Starmer. I bet he lays in bed at night thinking what he can tax next.
@@kayburnett6792 forgive me if I'm wrong on some that is already taxed but maybe,
Gym tax, pet tax, push bike tax, scooter tax, sports tax inc anything sports related on tv, live steaming tax, tax on your annual tax rebate for the tax you overpaid ( you have earned £1,000 on over tax payments here is a check for £800 plus Tax ) hmmm let's what else... 🤔 Pay per mile to use your car then plus an annual fee per Year for road tax again for the privilege of owning a car for the registration for on the road but not driving it tax.... Man if they do any of this I'd move...
Those people with EV though they cash in getting them.
How can you possibly know what people who chose an EV thought? Have you spoken to each and every one of them? I can tell you that in the 3+ years I've owned mine, I've saved over £7k by not buying petrol... Plus I charge up at home for around £6 per week...
Pay per mile hits the working class hardest as they dont have work from jobs & usually work shifts where public transport not widely available.
love the ending brings back to a time when I had that fire to drive in my soul 😅
15 years ago, I read an article that said we used to work till Tuesday night to pay our taxes, now we work till Wednesday dinner. The percentage of money out of our wage that we pay the government goes up year on year. The people with the most disposable income is the motorist. Pay per mile has been discussed now for over a decade. But in orders to do this across the board they would need tracker devices installed in all cars and have the government monitor its movement and charge accordingly. This is something the government want yet there is huge opposition from the public. They don't want their every movement tracked
Oh good, they are going to eliminate the taxes on diesel and petrol? That'll make filling up way cheaper. No? They are just going to add yet an additional charge. And how would it be enforced? They going to check, and trust, the accuracy of the odometers?
Ironic that motorists, surely among the most consistent earners and generators of wealth in Britain, should be perpetually taken advantage of.
Clearly they need their own union-like organisation and the type of influence in politics which might ensure an end to their being robbed. Indeed, they clearly need a greater influence on decision making too which is currently nothing short of vindictive.
It all comes down to getting people out of their cars permanently you will own nothing
So, how will the nation's economy sustain itself if nobody owned anything? Who will take all the houses, businesses and cars from people, and what will they do with them? Where will you live and work if nobody owns any property for you to rent? Where will you work if nobody owns a business? What will the government do about the £35 billion in ta revenue it rakes in from the motorist each year? And the millions of lost jobs due to the car making industry going (800'00 jobs in the UK alone there? And then there are the jobs lost in oil refineries, tanker drivers, petrol stations, car dealerships, tyre fitting depots, garage workshops, the AA and RAC motorway services etc. Millions would lose their jobs. How would this benefit the government or the economy? Please explain.....
Whats wrong with pay per mile as long as tax is removed from fuel? Let the people who use the roads the most pay for them, why should someone who does 1000 mile a year pay the same as someone who does 100,000 miles!
You pay more tax the more miles you drive, there job done 😂
Thank you mate for all you do.
The pay per mile will be what is in use in some states in the US, when you enter the highway or motorway, a device camera will read your number plate, then, more you stay, higher the cost will be. The goal is to make access to vehicles very expensive and limit the amount of road users.
If you have off road parking (about 65% of us) and a variable electricity tariff you can recharge an EV so cheaply it works out a 2p per mile, compared with fuel costs of about 12p per mile for a combustion car. The reason car fuel duty is set at the level it is is because if it were lower car usage and traffic would increase causing ever more congestion - this is a known, not a theoretical thing. You'd have ever more people driving more often ever greater distances, living further from where they basically need to be for work, family, school etc.. If the financial constraint is relaxed we end up paying the price in terms of time - more congestion. Some form of road pricing is inevitable. The flexibility it could provide means at least it can be used to encourage journeys to be made at off-peak times, with say, zero charge one or two days a week. We need to use cars in a more intellligent way; it's nuts to charge the same for rural motoring as urban car commuting where alternatives make far more sense. Doing nothing is not an option. I not saying it will be popular, but it is inevitable; sadly, when it comes to discussing cars some people's IQ drops about 20 points, so, rant away....
I can see the whole country shutting down. Due to the fact that the government wanted to centralise everything some years ago many people now have to commute to work. Many families are already struggling trying to make ends meet on low wages sometimes working two jobs creating further commuting. Pay by mile is going to be a tax too far which will make going to work uneconomic when they can get more money by claiming benefits. People are already depressed about lack of quality of life. They struggle with no hope of getting their own home and not being able to afford to have children. The UK is fast loosing it's good feeling factor.
Well people were in such a hurry to get the Conservatives out they voted the wrong way.
This win push up the cost of everything even more.
They haven't thought this through at all, start pay per mile scam on EVs then that will be the final nail in the coffin for them. The take up is already taking a nose dive!
Exactly....
Why does my local authoity still run diesel buses? Take my car and go dirty. Shocking
Disconnect your speedo and use a separate sat nav for checking your speed ! 👍
Wouldn’t need a network of cameras, an easy way to introduce this would be the recorded mileage on the MOT, after which a bill would come through the post. Maybe even a ‘mileage check’ every 6moths at an MOT station.
Yes exactly labor study Singapore for 20 years
Talking about holes, they should use some of the revenues raised to full all those potholes and cracks in our roads!
And i bet it won't apply to illegal immigrants
How to grind the country to a halt. Pay per mile. All the Amazon delivery drivers will be happy.
We already pay per mile, people seem to forget the massive amount of tax on petrol and diesel.
But as sales volumes of fuel reduce, an alternative will be needed. That's where Road Tolls come in. The tax burden will move from fuel to actual road *usage*
The British motorists pays far to much now to drive on this dreadful road systems they need to address this it will be their poll tax and we no what happened there
Thing is how do you implement it ? I think to start with only modern cars van do it, or there might be incentives such as lower insurance, until everyone is forced to have it and its expensive for everyone.
its all about removing peoples cars but they need you to volunteer yourself off the road, agenda 2021 created in 1992 by the UN wants all private vehicles off the road by 2030