Leon, dude, I was a policeman back in the 90's. Half of our calls then were to deal with mental health issues. It was tragic. And still is. And I come from a country with state funded mental health services. I used to cry a lot.
I'm a hospital/emergency department social worker and I am the hand-off person for police when they drop off these types of cases at the hospital. Thank you for having empathy for people with mental health problems because many police officers (and just everyday citizens) have no idea what it's like to be a mental health provider in a society like this. Thank you for your service!
My brother is a sergeant in the police force currently… he has a young daughter as well. He will never go into too much detail, but given my past with addiction issues, not only has that made him a more compassionate officer, but he feels comfortable talking to me about some of the stuff he has experienced. I’ve often heard him mention how hard it is for him to go into homes where addiction or mental health is not prevalent and how heartbreaking it is for him to deal with these types of people, especially when children are involved. How sometimes it’s multiple times a week that he’s called to the same location with the same people. Unfortunately, there’s only so much that can be done…. The sad truth.😢
Here's the problem with the Foster Care system... These kids age out at 18 yrs old, they have no life skills, no coping skills on how to navigate the adult world. I think there should be a transition house for ages 18-21, where the kids have to work, pay some rent & utilities and learn how to budget their earnings. So hopefully by age 21 they would have some understanding of the demands of maintaining shelter & paying bills etc.
some states (like mine) have systems like that but make you do all the work to get in, so normally the kids in the foster care system get a tiny taste of freedom and go down the wrong path instead of getting into housing.
I work with youth in these situations, and sometimes if they are under stated custody after 18, they are given the choice to keep working with a state worker under a program called "Fostering Connections" where they provide those supports. They are also given opportunity to go into a Transitional Living Placement where they are provided with housing and support but they have to work on their mental health, keep going to school, get a job or both. These supports are available, but only if the person is willing to work and put their part in, sometimes it doesn't work that way and the person just stops caring and following through with the program and they fall into even more difficult situations. And honestly, getting into transition programs is difficult AF, even with applying in advance and meeting criteria, sometimes there’s no room, there’s not enough funding, or just no availability all around.
Completely agree, ngl this almost brought me to tears because alot of the way she reacted at first at least for me showed signs of someone on the spectrum too. Which I am as well. I was lucky because I had a good upbringing and parents and was able to get a good system in place to help me with managing my adult life. But I could easily see someone without the proper support end up like this.
I agree, that would be great for children aging out of foster care. Unless their foster parents have encouraged them to get a part time job, and an education while they are still under their care, these kids age out with no job skills, no life skills. They should be treated just like biological kids, and the foster parents should encourage them to get a part time job like they would their biological kids.
I was in her exact same position at one point, being handcuffed in a hospital screaming. Thankfully for me, I was still under 18 at the time, so I went to an involuntary mental health place for a little bit instead of jail, but I can 100% empathize with her. She needs some kind of therapy for whatever she went through, fully put together people don't act like that, coming from personal experience. I just hope this isn't the end for her, that this arrest doesn't destroy the rest of her life, and that she can turn it around. Genuinely hoping for the best for her.
She needs mental help big time.... she is not right. It makes me sad. This world is so vile and unfair. There's a lot of beauty in it but there is far more ugliness... that's why we dream of and make up things like heaven... neither will there be anymore pain, nor anymore sickness. For the former things will have passed away.... does it exist? I hope so.
@@PrimalistOptimus I don't know what part of "handcuffed, screaming in a hospital" implies that I didn't also have an attitude. I'm doing much better nowadays, due to receiving help. Just because you have an attitude doesn't mean you're a lost case, and just because a person in pain has an attitude doesn't mean they should be abandoned.
I got busted in High School. Once the cop was in front of me talking I just was polite and cooperative and the charges were dismissed before the court date.🤷🏻♂️
I have a friend who takes care of four girls in the foster care system , she doesn't kick them out as soon as they turn 18 , as long as they are making an effort to transition to adulthood by working , or continuing education. She even helps them to get a car , apartment ,and whatever mental health care they need. I know many of these foster parents are just wanting an extra paycheck. It's so sad to see young people so abandoned and alone.
And most foster parents don’t do it for the money! Electricity, heating oil, food, water bill, clothes shopping, sports, vacation… everything goes up with another soul in the house. Foster parenting is an act of love. My husband and I have been doing it for 24 years.
God bless your friend. That poor kid 😢 she probably developed that hard demeanor to cope with her awful life at the hands of an endless parade of uncaring fake parental figures in her life for who knows how long...too sad. For everyone involved.
Some know nothing more then conflict- they work on fight or flight and most likely fight is their way of life. They have no coping skills and never taught how to deal with
_NO!_ No I cannot! And I'm a really active person! Every time I see these women (and it's only women) I am kinda like, "Let's get 6 of them on the front lines"
That's exactly what I was thinking. I can't believe that after 20 minutes of that raging she didn't just go numb. She probably couldn't even speak the next day. That would wipe me out physically and mentally.
These people get offered a lot of support. Most of them don’t want any guidelines though. It’s all the result of their bad families. But I will say that social services have been given orders to turn their attention away from these people, ands go after homeschoolers and parents trying to prevent their kid from mutilating themselves.
Jesus!!! This was extremely hard to watch. There’s clearly a copious amount of mental health issues coupled with other issues surrounding her childhood/ upbringing and the environment she was in. This is truly heartbreaking as she didn’t ask to be dealt the cards she was.
Self regulation is the word. When someone goes the years of trauma even through childhood without treatment, self regulation, which is a skill that is learned in childhood development and helps us to calm ourselves down or listen to our emotions, is never built in these critical years from abandonment, neglect, and abuse. If never attained it may become difficult to learn later on in adult life. That is why she looks like she’s throwing a adult tantrum, because that is the only way she has ever learned to cope with strong emotions.
She looks like she's throwing an adult tantrum because she's indeed an adult throwing a tantrum. "The only way she has ever learned to cope with strong emotions"? If she was 5yrs old, maybe. There are former Nigerian child soldiers with more self control. Empathize of course, but blaming this scenario on everyone but herself is quite naïve.
As a former foster kid that aged out of the system i feel for her on you 18th birthday at midnight you are unceremoniously kicked out and letf to fend for yourself and it is absolutely ...absolutely brutal and i even tried to prepare and my actions were limited because of the restrictions that the state puts on you while you are still a ward to the state its a broken system
There should be transition facilities that can provide housing for 18-21 year olds where there's staff who can help them get into college or find a job and save up enough money to live independently, while also teaching about financial responsibility so kids who've aged out of the system are not left high and dry with no support net of any kind. It's cruel. I know there are a handful of foster parents who are willing to provide that safety net despite no longer getting paid to foster but those are definitely few and far between. Foster kids already go through enough bull before turning 18, why make it worse? I've never be in the system but I have family members who have been foster parents. My aunt and uncle fostered multiple disabled kids that otherwise would not have been able to be placed with families (and they were taken very good care of, they were loved by my cousins as if they were blood siblings) and my cousin and her husband fostered siblings so they would not be separated, and ended up adopting them. None of them were in it for the money, they all had really good careers so didn't need the money. They did it because they wanted to provide a safe, loving home where these kids could thrive. I wish there were more people like them. Keep sharing your story, help bring more awareness to this problem. Make some noise. I wish you a long healthy adult life full of success, kindness, and love. ❤
That’s exactly what I was going to say and the woman that was with her. It’s her job to keep an eye on her. So why are you working with people in bad situations if you’re going to stand out there and take the piss out of her you turn 18 and you get kicked out. She’s got no family she’s got nowhere to live so she’s sleeping on the street tonight at 18th birthday spent sleeping on the street Yeah she is acting the fool, but people are just so quick to pass a judgement sitting in the ivory towers.
@@phaedrapage4217I wonder what the transition phase is like. Like does their case worker work with them starting a few years prior to 18 to help them develop a plan? Clearly there are holes and perhaps there should be more developed systems to help those who are not as successful at setting themselves up for success.
I have had some good friends with absolutely terrible childhoods. It definitely messes with someone, but this is on another level. The only way someone like that changes is if they want to change themselves.
For me, as a broken disorderly child, I didn’t change until I burnt all my bridges at 18, did some time homeless, mom paid for 3 months to live in a tent at a camp ground, then two semesters in college before flunking and then eventually moved out to live with a friend and got my life on track. Now I despise who I used to be and ANY trait I used to exhibit. If someone acts like I used to I quickly end up hating them, some people need to hit rock bottom before they reflect and change. I’m a better person now but it’s a shame I caused my family so much pain to get here…
THANK YOU! My sister and I grew up in the same abusive household and suffered a lot of mental and bad physical abuse. She chooses to be a victim and demand life owes her and hasn’t worked since 2003 popping out kids left and right and leaving them with my mom so she can go abuse drugs and run with villains and get arrested. I too am messed up from it but I wanted a better life for myself. I deserve the best things in life but I work my ass off for them. She used to be my hero growing up and I wanted to be just like her but these past 30 years I don’t know who she is and avoid her like the plague. She isn’t trustworthy and isn’t even allowed in my home. As adults we can pick what life we want. Therapy helped me a lot.
Here’s the thing even if they want to chat. Some people are literally incapable. I learned this in my special Ed’s classes some people are incapable of living a normal life and need help. To just survive
@@McGriddy51095 Good on you! That's a great attitude. If there were a way to respectfully tell you I'm "proud of you" without it sounding patronizing, well, you have that. Hopefully anyone you've put through chaos, will recognize your 180 degree change. Step up for them when they're in need, deliver calm & control no matter how bad the act is - you'll find your past won't morph into guilt as much. Hating your former self is an awesome way to look at it. You've got character & standards. From all the people I know who ended up doing time, even the worst of them - back in the 80s/90s, people didn't typically act like this with police. It freaks me out to see people so arrogantly hollering at police, armed adults, without a care in the world. When the cops come, behave, wait your turn to speak, respectfully decline & request a lawyer. Don't resist. Back in "the day", you'd be in whatever condition the officers' tolerance rates were, not the law. Note I didn't say "good ole days" - having body cams now is an honest glance into the job. Lots of messed up people out there, and they're fertile as potting soil, lol!
She's been abandoned her whole life and she probably feels like she can act up with her case worker, because the case worker takes it. She doesnt realize her actions have consequences and now here we are. She doesn't know what acting like a reasonable adult means, no concept.
She probably got abandoned because of the way she acts honestly. She's got that "I control the world and everything around me" attitude till they are proven otherwise.
Unfortunately he did not see the easy resolution. Show empathy, offer to drive her to DSS if she leaves the vehicle, and explain he will have to arrest her if she doesn't step out.
TOO patient. Maybe if we didn’t allow them to continue to feel they are getting somewhere with the disrespect, things wouldn’t escalate so much. Obviously the guy’s patience didn’t pay off with this woman.
I've always heard the saying, cant help anyone if they dont wanna help themselfs, and in my 15 years of living i've come to realise that the saying is true
The tragedy is she may not have the physical capacity to help herself; she seems very immature in a maniac way. I hope she turns it around, but I doubt it.
I agree that we need to use empathy in situations like these but we have to be careful that our empathy doesn't just become enabling. Constantly being lenient and understanding when things like this happen can lead to a viscous cycle and no actual growth.
Absolutely. I think the police had a history already with her and probably had interactions before she even turned 18. The time for leniency has passed with her and she needs to be held accountable. I appreciate empathy and am a very empathetic person, but this is not acceptable. This wasn’t just someone upset bc of a tough time, this was someone who fought against ANY authority from the social worker to the cops. She wants to control everything and hopefully will learn that’s not how life works.
Agreed. I absolutely feel bad for the girl and her circumstances, but her immediate and persistent toddler attitude toward the cop and having no sense of consequences with her later behaviour, both needed to be shut down, no matter the context. It's never going to get you anywhere in life, so better learn this now.
Agreed. It's true that you can't help someone who doesn't want help... But the way to make someone want help is to make sure they experience consequences for their actions. I feel for everyone involved in this situation, and I think it went about as well as it possibly could have.
@@LeonLush We are better than this. We don't need to re-post people at their lowest moment. This type of exposure can really harm this poor woman. Someone that did not have responsible parents and someone that has probably been abused? How would you feel if this was a family member?
On behalf of this channel, Leon and all fans here I'll tell you, this is how things go here. She made herself an example by her own actions. She obviously has some background trauma and crap she's delt with but nothing/nobody has stopped her from bettering herself soooo... Anyways, this type of content is what we watch and comment on. Bodycam stuff, funny shit, just greatness. Usually a common ground for everyone. Leon will be the first to say where, when, and what the bullshit is. You don't have to stay 😊 it's all good. Just don't pump fake when you leave, please 👉🚪
IDK what's crazier the way this girl was reacting or the fact that things can get so bad that they need to have restraining devices like this because it's common enough they need it.
Im Australian & our system is exactly the same with Foster Care etc. I'm a 58yr old 1st nations Australian woman & was a part of what is known as the "Stolen Generation" taken by Government force from my parents because the Government believed they could do a better job raising me & my siblings within institutionalized care. We were made what is called "Wards Of The State" until we were 18yrs old & then tossed out on the streets with no teaching or training toward maintaining any life skills from the most basic to the most important. We were not taught how to apply for employment or even how to seek training to put toward employment nor other life surviving skills. Everything for me & many many other thousands of children that were put thru the systems all our life skills were self taught but there are thousands more that sadly don't have a clue due to mental health issues etc. So I do have empathy for this lady & I hope she got that extra help she obviously needed. PS: I'd like to know if this lady has mental health issues why didnt career meet police at the hospital to try & help resolve the situation? From what I gathered her career just wanted to dump her at the hotel with a "Get out of my car & good luck"!!
I can hardly imagine what you went through. I saw the film "Long Walk Home" in the cinema when it came out and I still remember how deeply affected I was by the scene in which the children are torn from the arms of their screaming mothers to be taken to the state-run home. How much I cried during that scene - what incredible suffering these people were subjected to. I hope with all my heart that, despite your terrible experiences, you were able to find a life that you can say is happy and content.
That was actually really hard to watch. Thank you for handling it with respect for all parties. Clearly she’s got some trauma. You can hear it in her cries
Still she can't behave like that. The case worker who should have explained what she needs to do and get her medical help. The police did all they could she should have been in an mental institution work at least the last 5 years...
At the end of the day she does have help with the monthly check, a case worker and other help. They mentioned her refusing to work and honestly would you hire her? There comes a point where you have to realize you fucked up and know when to just shut up for once and not dig the hole deeper.
37:54 I don't believe that pathway in her brain is functioning/developed/capable. As a child, she must have been exasperating to deal with. She needs a specialized and skilled psychiatrist.
Facts You are correct. It is sad She’s obviously had a rough life But…. You have to recognize at some point that you’re only making things worse and your life worse
You can tell this young girl has been through a lot and is scared to be on her own. She has no one...poor girl. Her voice is breaking and you can tell she doesn't want to act that way but it's all she knows.
They do not prepare kids who grow up in the system to be adults. It’s truly tragic. She was given a rough life, but the cop doesn’t have many options at this point.
EXACTLY!!!!! I was repeating that throughout the video after about the fourth time he told her to get out of the car. He asked her probably 15 times and the last four times was her “last” chance
I know in my town, York PA if you turn 18 in foster care they get vouchers for renting a place, vouchers for home supplies (sheets, plates, utensils, irons, ironing boards, wash baskets, vouchers for clothes and they help them get a job. Hearing people say that they just kick you out isn't then norm in my town. I know about the vouchers because I worked with them during my time at Kmart.
I'm a Social Worker and from what I heard at the beginning she's probably fresh out of foster care (or a group home) and now in the Independent Living Program. She'll get a check every month and a case worker to help her try to navigate adult life as much as they can. Seems like she's just feeling really lost and scared right now because the little bit of stability she had by being in the system is gone now and she was probably going to be on the street that night had she not been arrested.
Independent living program I was in told me one day to grab my stuff I’m leaving. My social worker dropped me off in a scary neighborhood with my few trash bags of belongings, in front of an apartment with crime scene tape across the door. I wasn’t turning 18 for another 5 months. Thankful but also, I was nowhere near ready for that much yet I had no clue what I was doing. My emotional intelligence definitely wasn’t there and memories of that time make me cringe I was so irresponsible.
@@mrtophat12 what? Life's like really hard. And when your life's all messed up, well you should be able to mess other people's lives up to make it fair! What am I saying that's wrong?
I appreciate your empathy. That was a tough one. I, as some one who has been through the system can promise you that the cop reminded her of someone who abused her. That wasn't acting or entitlement. That was fear and outrage. She needs help not scrutiny.
While I completely understood the need to get her out of the car, I felt for her at the same time. The police did what they had to do, but I hope she gets the help she needs.
I worked in prison for a couple decades. I learned a very valuable lesson early in my career when I got aggravated and said “you act like you like living here!” The inmate replied, “miss, I used to live in a dumpster. This is better.” I swallowed my pride and apologized for my comment. That was the day I learned that there is so much more happening than we might see. I became a much better officer (and person) after that. I’ll never forget that inmate.
I was a case worker for 30 years, with most of those years working with high-behavior intellectually-impaired individuals. This video triggered so many horrible memories of what this population of people, and the amazing advocates/workers that spend their lives trying to help them in a system designed to hide their existence entirely, go through. This young woman needs help desperately and the best she gets here is "act like an adult". A window into the horrible world mentally troubled people in our country live in. Thank you for handling this with respect and putting the subject out there in a way that could start necessary conversations. That's why I watch you, you're one of the good guys.
so its people like you that treat everyone with kids gloves that we have to thank for all of this current lawlessness we have across western countries. . . . if you treated everyone the same i would think you were doing a good job. however, im guess you have a stark gender and racial bias that almost always accompanies social workers in our current society.
So, you work in pseudo-science. Just say that. You're an enabler. This girl needs discipline and then she needs to be put on a plane to a third world country to dig trenches, haul water, and build huts for people who have none of the entitlements she enjoys. She will come back a changed young woman. People in your profession are ding dongs.
@@erikschuster4293 you made up literally every trait you believe this person possesses and are calling them the reason why things are bad in the world... sure.
I’m a Family Practitioner. She may be 18 years old, but she is developmentally 12, because her parent/parents didn’t model or teach her any skills. This breaks my heart.
@@didi012578 They're not shrinks but they're human beings. You don't need to be a shrink (odd way to call a therapist btw) to be compassionate towards someone who is obviously suffering. It's not that hard, even heartless people can see someone struggling with something. Cops are supposed to help people, descalate and what not. The cop who first arrived did nothing but escalate.
Dude this is heartbreaking. The way she cried for her caseworker she clearly has no one. Someone in her life failed her and left society to pick uo the pieces.
Agreed! To me, it seemed that her behavior and refusal to get out of the car were coming from a place of fear. I can't even blame her because I'd be scared too. I hope she's doing well, wherever she landed.
New follower here! I love your way of thinking, I wasn’t sure how often I’d watch these videos but the way you described the sadness about this really touched my heart as I felt the same, your empathy towards her situation is exactly how I felt too thanks for being real
@@LeonLush I normally enjoy body cam stuff, but this one is killing me. I realize that person has zero emotional coping skills and all of the screaming and verbal manipulation that used to work became a lability after her 18th birthday. Empathy is off the charts feeling bad for her, but damn she has to figure this out quick.
This is Honestly sad as someone that grew up in the social services system I’ve met a lot of other kids that was beat up and neglected by there parents and now they turn out like this I don’t 100% blame her and I hope she gets the help she needs and Leon I appreciate you showing empathy and not joking about situations like this you’re awesome brotha
May I ask, as you have your self been in hard situations when you were younger, did you behave like this? And do you think having a hard life is an excuse to behave like this and cause other people problems? And if so where does it stop and when can you hold people accountable?
@@DagmaraPettit people will always have to be held accountable for their actions in my opinion, but that’s because I joined the military as soon as I turned 18 to give myself that fighting chance. It’s up to the kid on what kind of life they want to live when they grow up and for them to try to seek that help if it means counseling or finding an outlet to help. I still do therapy just so I can fight those demons but to each there own.
I understand what you’re saying but I guess I look at it completely different. My mom has hated me since the day I was born and made sure I knew it. She also made sure I knew what a piece of shit I was every single day. She destroyed any self-esteem, self-confidence, self-respect, etc. I would ever have. I’ll never be the person I was supposed to be bc of her abuse. I feel like she murdered a part of my soul. I would never act like this. Of course everyone is different and process things differently but I still don’t think it’s ever an excuse to lash out and abuse others. I think the childhood trauma/abuse I went through caused me to do the exact opposite- I know what it feels like to be abused, and bc I know that pain, I would never intentionally do anything to cause another person to feel that pain. Too many people blame their bad behavior on past trauma and use it as an excuse to justify their actions instead of taking accountability and working on getting better. Hopefully things work out for her and she gets her life together. It’s a sad situation.
@@firstnamekaty8830 definitely agree with you people must take responsibility of there actions. And every situation is completely different IE drugs, mental abuse, physical abuse and neglect. Growing up in the System I knew teenagers that would fight therapist, teachers and social workers because of drug abuse they were exposed to or other shit. And I’m talking about kids that were about to be 18. The system is fucked and I’m also very sorry you went through that
@@malcomb6823 I definitely agree with you too. And thank you for your kind words❤️ I’m sorry you had to go through a rough childhood as well. It’s not fair. No child should ever have to go through that kind of pain. It causes life long issues.
@@Ooh_PieceOfCandyI think empathy is way more needed than an attitude like this. People in the social services suffer from real shit that happened in their house when they were just an innocent child.
shoutout to you for actually going into a body cam video with some empathy and compassion. cause you so right a lot of the comments on some of these videos are absolutely egregious for real
Because foster care isn’t the problem! The problem are the people who brought her into this world and then dumped her. No one is supposed to be raised by a government organization. There are some great foster homes. There are also some people who will spin out of control. The only thing we can do as a society is maintain boundaries so they can learn to function within them,
i feel bad for her too, but i feel worse for officers who have to deal with people like her and they are completely unequipped to. Then they look like the bad guys because they are asked to deal with grown babies.
@macemaster that person was a child like 5 minutes ago, is STILL a child mentally, and if her foster situation was stable & healthy, she wouldn't be anywhere near this mess.
@@katiejon17 you don't get these situations with healthy foster situations. If her foster parents had love for her she'd probably have a bed to sleep in. She either doesn't have friends or they aren't the kind you'd wanna stay with.
Officer was more than patient with this rude, disrespectful young lady. The social worker went above & beyond helping her with her errands. If people are willing to help you, don’t make them regret it by making bad choices like this behavior. These New Mexico officers here handled this challenging situation very well, good thing police cameras are utilized.
This girl is different than the average drunk or high wacko. She is 18, alone, and mentally ill. If we don’t figure out how to help these kids, all our futures are grim. I’m praying for her. Well done, Leon. I appreciate this video and hope to see more of this format. Please add the beautiful Mrs. Lush. I think you two together like this would be fantastic.
I am glad I saw your comment right after I posted. I dreaded reading them. For a first I'm glad there are so many good ppl still out there. I was once her and its a nightmare. 51 now
That's true, but what is the solution? Everyone says they want to do something better or that we should do it a different way. But no one wants to be the one to respond or be able to respond 24/7. No one wants to spend hours deescalating only to do it a few hours later with someone else. No one wants to risk their own safety to deal with this type of person. Everyone has empathy from afar where they are nice and safe and don't have to deal with someone like this. It's easy to arm chair and say you would do this or do that, but what happens when the individual is 2x your size? Believe me, I worked on prisons for over 10 years, we would spend hours trying to deescalate... literally. Only to have them get physical at the end of it. You can say you can provide them housing, but what happens when they abuse themselves or others? What happens when they destroy the nice things/environment you provide them? What will you do? What happens when you assign them case workers and therapists and the mental health people literally get assaulted and/or raped. For all the help you will try to provide you will need to balance security. Security is never perfect and in those imperfections you will find inherent risks that can only be overcome with more security and more inhumane treatment. She was likely abused in her household and then again in foster care by other residents and/or supervisors.
Sorry, I know this is a tough one to watch, but have you even considered that this is how this woman controlled the people around her for years as a minor. Now she is finding out that it doesn't work as an ADULT. Time to grow up. Screaming at people like a maniac because you don't want to do what you're expected to do is not a mental health issue, it's a control tactic to get her way, and when she doesn't get her way from just screaming she begins to use violence. Sorry man, but she's playing you and all of us.
Our future is grim because we allow these kids to be entitled brats, no expectation of self discipline, respect for authority, no demand for adulting what so ever. We want everyone who acts out for not getting their way to be mentally ill. 95% are simply entitled who have never been forced to take the answer no . Her reaction of "I only wanted to do something other than I was told and now it isn't right you're making me do what I was told"...is not mental illness, it's what we are raising as acceptable. She wouldn't have been in any trouble if she simply got out of the car. All her hysteria is from her own choices and the consequences to HER choices.
I’ve worked with many young people and young adults over the years and the way she treats that police man is quite common. When speaking to them after they have calmed down they have admitted there was no reason, they were just angry and wanted someone to take it out on. I have felt so bad for the cops when they have been so good and understanding.
Jail is the answer. Actions have consequences. And if she isn’t unstable enough to be instituted, then she needs jail. You have no idea how much support is offered to these people - you see it in the video. If you are going to be a member of society, you have to stay within boundaries. This young woman is not. For many of these people, they choose to learn the hard way. But a savior complex does nothing to help these people, it just makes you feel good about yourself.
@@katiejon17you are literally in every single comment thread telling those with empathy that they are wrong. What happened to you that you would criticize anyone empathizing?
While I know every person is different, oftentimes when we've seen youth acting this way, they have been handled too lightly by their caregivers prior to the outbursts. What I mean is that the parents/foster family haven't made them do the hard work. As if they were afraid of them fleeing or afraid of the state. Caring for someone is a massive undertaking. BUT the caregiver must be wise enough to be nurturing when necessary AND firm when necessary. Teaching always.
She's old enough to know better no matter what. She made a bad decision when she went off on her support person. Then made it so much worse with her attitude toward the officers. When they took charge, she went bonkers because no one tells her no.
I think she reacted like that because she panicked; she had no where to go, she's 18 and most likely all alone. I feel sorry for her. She obviously needs help, not jail.
You can feel her desperation in the beginning… if she left that car, she’d be alone on the streets that night. If I had no home, no one, and no money, I wouldn’t want to leave that car either.
@@floresgt3 I don't know if people are trying to pretend the world isn't shitty, I think everyone realizes it is and they're all just coping with it and dealing with their own issues. There are a select few who actively exploit how shitty the world is for the rest of us, fuck them in particular.
I dont. A man would never get away with this behavior. Almost every person that acts like this in these videos are struggling mentally. Idk why people are picking and choosing who to feel sorry for.
I would say there is most certainly a charge for yelling. Disorderly conduct, threatening a police officer or public official, obstruction, disturbing the peace.........
In her cries, I hear disappointment, abandonment issues, fear, memories of abuse, feelings of being useless and nonexistent and unloved. She is NOT an adult. She is a child, who has probably never seen responsible acts by adults. Her actions are not excusable, but in a way, understandable. Years of uncertainty and abuse have resulted in this tirade of psychotic behavior.
@pamtaylor8921 No, it doesn't, but she is still an adult who's interacting with a cop. I understand acting differently with cops due to being mentally ill. But this was on a whole other level that you can't really just excuse it for being mental health issues. For me I'm on the spectrum and at times i have a hard time talking or raising my voice and i do get a little frisky if I'm not being listened to but I don't do what this woman did lol
@@Flowervibes101 I'm not condoning her actions at all. We just have no idea what her young life has been like. I do know that if you have no love for yourself, or no sense of self worth, it's hard to show love and respect for others. Still not acceptable.
I don't think the reality of the situation is sugar coated for foster kids. They should be preparing when they are 17 and, if foster care is as bad as is always stated, then they should be celebrating they have freedom to be out of it.
If you don't treat your foster parents like crap, most would keep helping you. Also, there's Job Corps, they offer transitional housing and vocational training for ages 16 to 24 nationwide. But you need to be willing to work and stay off drugs. An attitude like hers won't make it in the program.
I think there's more to this than all these boo-hoo'ers know about. They're trying to make her the worlds biggest victim. Im sure she makes her rounds with the entire department with her friends stirring up trouble.
Good thing Homeboy had a body cam. She tried to flip it at the end with his fellow officers. "You didn't see everything that happened up to then" Bet dude is REAL glad that those cams are mandatory.
I'm at the end of the the video... I have a high level of respect for you, Mr Lush, it's obvious you are empathetic and open-minded. I know this video is a bit older but your thoughts mean a lot. People need someone like yourself to express a diff way of thinking. Blessings
She didn't handle anything the right way but I can completely understand the feel of having no safe choice and being extremely lost. Having no place to go and no one that can help is the most terrifying place to be in life.
@@outlaw_80its actually not that well said, if she had a dad he wasnt present in her life adequately. Woman have maternal instinct which will make them say things like they understand that shes going through trama, which isnt actually true. Its likely she had a devouring mother which is a psychological term that describes what is happening on a wide scale today and didnt happen as much about 20 years ago and more. Its narscasistic compassion that allows this to fester with young woman and men, and modern feminism is one of the biggest roots of the problem, not classic feminism dont get it mixed up. It teaches woman that losing is scary, so they raise kids with a narscasistic participation trophy type attitude that causes these children to not understand real hardship. The situations of this video are extremely trivial and when you are raised by a devouring mother these small situations feel very very stressful for no reason, its no doubt shes stressed, but it doesnt warrant any compassionate response, she basically needs to grow up
Exactly! Also, that cop didn't handle it well. It almost felt likes he was enjoying the power over her. In the car she yelled 'predator' at him. I can understand why, I got the same vibe. Of course I can be wrong. Cops have a difficult job that deserves respect, but unfortunately there are some creepy apples amongst them too. With her having nobody on this earth, she has very good reason to be terrified like that.
@EllaGreenn shut up snowflake. How dare you maje this guy seem like a predator. He was called by the case worker after all options were exhausted. He also gave her 1000 chances and she was being everything but cooperative. He's literally just asking her to get out of the car.....
She's definitely not a Karen or otherwise spoiled brat. She obviously has broken with reality for some reason. Hopefully she gets the care she needs which is NOT putting here in jail.
She may have experienced trauma and that could explain her behavior but it certainly doesn't justify it. She's well old enough to know right from wrong and what is and isn't appropriate behavior. She knows it's wrong to not get out of someone else's car when you're told to. She knows that when a police officer gives you a direct order, you do what he says. She knows when you're being arrested not to resist. Do I feel kind of bad for her? Sure. But she still can't behave that way just because she's had a rough life.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. When he approached the car, you could tell she was trying really hard not to cry and the fear and sadness came out as anger. I couldn’t imagine not having the support of my parents even when I was 20. Who knows what she’s had to go through while in foster care through her life which makes her react like this. It makes me so sad 😞
@@mandilynn24 Well maybe we should think about how she treated the one person she "trusted" who got to the point where she felt her only option was to phone the Police. We have no idea what prior but it must have been a nice little chit chat with "someone she trusted". The case worker was so petrified of her that she was standing well away from the car and had to be asked by the Police Officer to talk to her.
Yes!!! I was just about to comment this. But after 2 damn paragraphs I just deleted it. I totally agree with u. Those with teenagers should be very familiar with her type of tantrum. Yes, she was wrong but she’s terrified and frustrated.
Not to mention how much its going to cost her to get out of it and then there’s probation. Which you already know she probably won’t be able to abide by all their stipulations. Hopefully not and she will get help. They really should have brought a female officer. She might have been able to deescalate the situation. Idk i have so many questions tho.
Maybe being locked up for awhile might help her. I wouldn't normally say that because, well jail sucks, but..... sometimes it can be enough to help get people some sort of skill set or into an educational program.
Thank you for pointing out that there is a difference between someone who is mentally too far gone and someone who is behaving in an entitled way. It highlights that it needs to be handled differently and starts the conversation on how to do that ethically and safely. I think these cops get worn out and stop being able to tell the difference or just don't have the energy to deal with it. I got the feeling that the cop started saying she was in his custody because it bothered her, it felt wrong and I do think a female officer might have been able to handle this better. Also, the guy who took the photos was trying to say they have to document when there is any use of force and/or restraints being used.
Oh that cop absolutely was egging her on in the squad car. It made me feel ill listening to him. He could just say nothing and she might have calmed down a bit.
I was looking for this thread. I knew it wasn’t just me that noticed. Either the guy gets a kick out of antagonizing his arrests and normally does this or his ego was actually hurt during the first part of the video. I understand that it must be incredibly frustrating to deal with someone so petulant but that is why cops need help in these situations. In the end it’s all really complicated and maybe I’m just talking out of my ass but atleast someone else noticed
@@aztekpriest6311 This had nothing to do with ego. He really did try to talk her. But somepoint you need to act. At the hospital thou, that resting officer shuold of not stayed the room. This is what I and collegues did kinda similar situations, that if one obviously triggers that behaviour, that person leaves and others stay there. That reaction is that in that girls mind that officer is the enemy and nothing he says will make it better. Other officer "might" be able to reason her in someway. Most likely not, but at least it might not go from 70 to 100 like it happened when resting officer entered the room.
So explain to me this. She is obviously in the foster care system based on what they've been saying I. E having a case worker and her being kicked out of the system when she's eighteen, She knew she would no longer have a place to stay or people to care for her when she turned eighteen. Therefore, an adult with a functioning brain would have figured out. Hey I should probably plan and prepare to be on my own. Therefore, an adult with a functioning brain would have figured out. Hey I should probably plan and prepare to be on my own when I turn 18.It is irrational to think that someone will keep caring for You when you don't want to take care of yourself
@@corngrohliothis is honestly so true, many teen boys that are like this are either forced to grow up or continue to be bad individuals. I feel for the boys who are forced to grow into men at such a young age. But it’s the same for women, grow up now or continue to be a nuisances. Both genders are equal, how you feel should be judged by their actions, not their gender.
I've seen this so much, and the police dealt with it well. I dont think he was bragging about additional charges, more like stress over the additional drama.
Damn, I just feel bad for her. She's clearly got problems, it's sad to be 18 and have no one there for you, she's still just a kid in need of guidance.
I respect your choice to be kinder to this girl than others. No matter the reason why, could you imagine being 18 and having no home? Nowhere to keep your stuff or even sleep at night? If your life sucked this bad, you might flip out too.
Eh, I hit the streets and walked the country. Didn't freak out at all. 'Course a guy freaking out goes to prison, and nobody cares when they are homeless *shrug*
Yep, so hard for beautiful young women to get off the streets.. Not like other women are more comfortable taking us in than men, not that there are not loads of women's shelters, not that there are battered shelters that allow someone in just for saying they are fleeing domestic abuse, or manage to get anyone attracted to you (BF/GF/Hopeful Friend) to give you a couch. But at a certain point someone can be so fucking crazy/nasty that no matter what else, the answer is 'nope'' and you put yourself on the street.
She is so confused about what to do. She is BEGGING for the police officer to act, as he will make the decision for her. He actually took too long, and gave her too many chances.
No one wants to ever speak the truth, but when you’ve worked with these people.... SOCIETY CANNOT FIX WHAT THE PARENTS EFF UP. We can’t. This is not because of us, or society, or schools, or foster homes - it is because of the families. And yes, social services are often barking up the wrong homes (as we have all seen in recent years). But this is all happening because we people don’t feel shame anymore for being crap parents. Ultimately, there has to be consequences - we cannot keep letting the crazies run the show.
it really does start in the family... unfortunately the nuclear family has not been a priority for a number of years now and the fallout from that is unimaginable
@@LeonLush well with over 2 million subscribers and a being a solid family man... what an incredible opportunity you have to play a major role in bringing that back. Don’t underestimate your impact. Please.
i got traumatized in my youth from 7 years of abuse and then some more as an adult by a former employer, after seeing no way out as shit gradually kept getting worse, after getting 0 empathy for health problems i had for years, after getting told i needed to work on not being sick so often and then 0 empathy when i needed heavy surgery which took me 6 months to recover from of which 2 months were in bed because my body was weakened to the point were it became dangerous, after getting 0 empathy when my gf was assaulted at home, was severely beaten and was choked so bad that i could hear her vocal chords were damaged when she called me after it happened and then got told to just finish my day as if nothing happened. not to mention the level of support i got or rather didnt get when she ended up killing herself because almost everyone in her life had abused her. i ended up suing them and i won, leaving them bankrupt, yet i still lost and get crippling anxiety and ST when getting in a situation that even vaguely resembles those years. and yes i've tried getting help but have yet to find something that works nobody can read minds and you never know what someone has been through. even typing this down... and knowing how 'understanding' people can be
I feel two ways. She was clearly failed by those who should've been there for her, but she's not completely innocent. She knew she was going to age out at some point. The caseworker didn't seem indifferent to me. I'm sure she helped as much as she could, but at some point it falls on the girl to handle. She didn't went to be shackled and brought to jail. The caseworker didn't want to be held hostage in the parking lot of a random hotel. She "just wanted to talk" to her caseworker. She did! For a few hours. You can't hold someone hostage and refuse to leave their car, house, property or whatever, because that person can't fix your problems. She wanted respect and wanted the officer out of her space. The caseworker wanted the same. Respect and the girl out of her car.
I agree with you. There's a limit to what caseworkers and social services can provide. Many caseworkers go above and beyond what's legally required of them to help. This girl also needs to actually want the support, work within the parameters of the programs offered, and act like an adult as well. Unfortunately maybe she was having a rough day, maybe she was dealing with something traumatic this particular day. Who knows. The whole situation is unfortunate on all angles
As someone who has had to suffer spending 12 hours in an ER with a prisoner like this, I commend these officers on their restraint. These are the hardest people to deal with and it's usually a combination of a mental issue, drug/alcohol, a shitty situation at home and a general disregard for authorities because of her compiling shit sandwich of a situation
And it sucks as a healthcare provider because we really don’t have anything we can do. I think between law-enforcement and healthcare all of us are extremely overburdened because of what has become an extreme mental health crisis in the United States. Hospitals are for sick people police are meant to deal with crimes. There’s a huge gap where we need more mental health employees who work in places that aren’t just their little office. We’re at crunch time things have to change. I have felt so helpless in the ER before because we have patients in there who clearly need help and we have no resources. We stabilize them medically and turn them right back out on the street. I will add I no longer work in that sort of nursing.I burned out. This just sucks.
That doesn’t matter. Those are finer details that don’t mean much when you consider the human brain isn’t fully developed until 25 or so for most people. The long term decision making part is the last to develop so young people make poor decisions. Almost as if it’s designed that way. Lack of perspective on long term consequences is a cash cow in a consumerist’s economy. People shouldn’t be considered an adult until 25.
My heart breaks for her seriously 18 years old with nobody in her life to help her she's desperate angry sad lost prob an addict she is a product of a system that will chew you up and spit you out i understand whole heartedly how someone can end up like this because ive been there and done that I was used and abused by the juvenile system PRAYERS FOR HER
Thank you for showing compassion. I think you about summed it up. Sorry those things happened to you. You deserve love like everyone else and so does she.
Leon, I just started watching your UA-cam videos. I cannot stop watching your videos. 5 thumbs up to you bro!! I CANNOT GET ENOUGH OF THEM, SPECIALLY THIS ONE.
I’m a cop and whenever I’ve had to deal with a distressed female in custody, I’ve asked for another officer of the opposite sex to help with the situation and even as far as to pass it on to them because you never know what kind of trauma they’ve had to be in that situation and you can just make it worse. That officer was condescending and you could tell he was enjoying the reaction he was getting from the girl. I could be reading to much into it and it’s just my opinion.
I had a similar line of thinking. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because I’m a therapist, so my priority is always the other person’s emotional safety. I’m sure with law-enforcement there’s many other things to consider, but he did seem to enjoy, triggering her. Especially in the hallway at the hospital, I felt he could’ve stepped back, at least gotten out of her range of sight and shut his mouth. He gave her zero room to emotionally regulate.
Yeah I didn’t like that guy, he kept baiting her and it was obvious he was enjoying it. I could practically hear the smirk when he walked up and offered her water. Saying ‘you’re in my custody now,’ multiple times just feels sinister
Cops can't be social workers for everyone. Some are more skilled & adept at handling tantrums, some are on the cutting edge of empathy & make extraordinary attempts to reason with messed up teenagers. But this is a howling, senseless, arrogant, flailing woman who might have been screaming in their ears for hours every other day. A cop's insensitive about her getting herself in REAL trouble, and suddenly the "I'd never treat her like this" violin plays. That officer can deliver facts as flippantly & cold as he wants. She's got to be told about adult charges & she obviously hasn't heard that in any way that cuts through. if he feels good about telling her this, let her take her medicine, welcome to the adult world - she's been howling at him with total lies for the whole video. It took their pleading with her for how long to get out of the car? How many pleas does it take before it's groveling or begging? Not everyone enjoys babysitting teenagers throwing tantrums. They're wearing armor & pistols for a reason, as you HAVE to recognize. If officers have to dodge gunfire, emotionally vulnerable teens can get their condescending attitudes fed right back to them & everybody lives. I've seen people get their jaws broken yelling at cops like this back in the late 80s & early 90s. Duct tape over mouths, hog-tied on the floor of the paddywagon, every possible fluid on their clothes... I actually saw one of the cops on monday, he always had bruises on his knuckles back in the day after weekends from people wanting to fight cops every friday/saturday night when the clubs got out. His partner was the one you never wanted to anger. Different generation. Juxtaposing that with an officer being condescending, it just seems so petty.
@@NunchucksHabit i totally agree, in fact, i thought this cop gave her too much grace at the start, after 4 or 5 "pump fakes" its time to move it on to the next step... It not his fault that at no point did she cooperate or obey his lawful orders... Cops shouldn't be counselors, that's what counselors are for. Cops are there to enforce the law not de escalate to hold some womans hand that is going nuts and wont listen.
Leon, dude, I was a policeman back in the 90's. Half of our calls then were to deal with mental health issues. It was tragic. And still is. And I come from a country with state funded mental health services.
I used to cry a lot.
i bet man, don't wish the job on anyone but it's necessary and i appreciate the time you gave to it
I'm a hospital/emergency department social worker and I am the hand-off person for police when they drop off these types of cases at the hospital. Thank you for having empathy for people with mental health problems because many police officers (and just everyday citizens) have no idea what it's like to be a mental health provider in a society like this.
Thank you for your service!
As someone that deal with horrible mental issues, it's not easy, and the state doesn't care....
From Michigan here..
My brother is a sergeant in the police force currently… he has a young daughter as well. He will never go into too much detail, but given my past with addiction issues, not only has that made him a more compassionate officer, but he feels comfortable talking to me about some of the stuff he has experienced. I’ve often heard him mention how hard it is for him to go into homes where addiction or mental health is not prevalent and how heartbreaking it is for him to deal with these types of people, especially when children are involved. How sometimes it’s multiple times a week that he’s called to the same location with the same people. Unfortunately, there’s only so much that can be done…. The sad truth.😢
Far too many disclaimers on this one dude. Give a lil grace at the start but by the time she's "trying to keep her cool" she gets what she gets
Here's the problem with the Foster Care system...
These kids age out at 18 yrs old, they have no life skills, no coping skills on how to navigate the adult world.
I think there should be a transition house for ages 18-21, where the kids have to work, pay some rent & utilities and learn how to budget their earnings. So hopefully by age 21 they would have some understanding of the demands of maintaining shelter & paying bills etc.
some states (like mine) have systems like that but make you do all the work to get in, so normally the kids in the foster care system get a tiny taste of freedom and go down the wrong path instead of getting into housing.
I work with youth in these situations, and sometimes if they are under stated custody after 18, they are given the choice to keep working with a state worker under a program called "Fostering Connections" where they provide those supports. They are also given opportunity to go into a Transitional Living Placement where they are provided with housing and support but they have to work on their mental health, keep going to school, get a job or both.
These supports are available, but only if the person is willing to work and put their part in, sometimes it doesn't work that way and the person just stops caring and following through with the program and they fall into even more difficult situations.
And honestly, getting into transition programs is difficult AF, even with applying in advance and meeting criteria, sometimes there’s no room, there’s not enough funding, or just no availability all around.
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Completely agree, ngl this almost brought me to tears because alot of the way she reacted at first at least for me showed signs of someone on the spectrum too. Which I am as well. I was lucky because I had a good upbringing and parents and was able to get a good system in place to help me with managing my adult life. But I could easily see someone without the proper support end up like this.
I agree, that would be great for children aging out of foster care. Unless their foster parents have encouraged them to get a part time job, and an education while they are still under their care, these kids age out with no job skills, no life skills. They should be treated just like biological kids, and the foster parents should encourage them to get a part time job like they would their biological kids.
I was in her exact same position at one point, being handcuffed in a hospital screaming. Thankfully for me, I was still under 18 at the time, so I went to an involuntary mental health place for a little bit instead of jail, but I can 100% empathize with her. She needs some kind of therapy for whatever she went through, fully put together people don't act like that, coming from personal experience. I just hope this isn't the end for her, that this arrest doesn't destroy the rest of her life, and that she can turn it around. Genuinely hoping for the best for her.
She needs mental help big time.... she is not right. It makes me sad. This world is so vile and unfair. There's a lot of beauty in it but there is far more ugliness... that's why we dream of and make up things like heaven... neither will there be anymore pain, nor anymore sickness. For the former things will have passed away.... does it exist? I hope so.
Yeah I agree mate👍
Except for the fact that the case worker said she doesn't like law enforcement and she immediately popped an attitude.
@@PrimalistOptimus I don't know what part of "handcuffed, screaming in a hospital" implies that I didn't also have an attitude. I'm doing much better nowadays, due to receiving help. Just because you have an attitude doesn't mean you're a lost case, and just because a person in pain has an attitude doesn't mean they should be abandoned.
I got busted in High School. Once the cop was in front of me talking I just was polite and cooperative and the charges were dismissed before the court date.🤷🏻♂️
I have a friend who takes care of four girls in the foster care system , she doesn't kick them out as soon as they turn 18 , as long as they are making an effort to transition to adulthood by working , or continuing education. She even helps them to get a car , apartment ,and whatever mental health care they need. I know many of these foster parents are just wanting an extra paycheck. It's so sad to see young people so abandoned and alone.
..it seems this young woman had an ally.. but absolutely refused to do any of the things you mentioned, so.. ya.
@@SunkissedMalice Unfortunately alot of these foster kids act out like this and are unable to find a family who can deal with this.
Yet you never knew what she went through to end up in foster care. The rage is definitely a sign of fear ! SAD !
And most foster parents don’t do it for the money! Electricity, heating oil, food, water bill, clothes shopping, sports, vacation… everything goes up with another soul in the house. Foster parenting is an act of love. My husband and I have been doing it for 24 years.
God bless your friend. That poor kid 😢 she probably developed that hard demeanor to cope with her awful life at the hands of an endless parade of uncaring fake parental figures in her life for who knows how long...too sad. For everyone involved.
Can you imagine how much energy it takes to keep up that much screaming & fighting?
Some know nothing more then conflict- they work on fight or flight and most likely fight is their way of life. They have no coping skills and never taught how to deal with
Maybe all is not lost for her…
_NO!_ No I cannot! And I'm a really active person!
Every time I see these women (and it's only women) I am kinda like, "Let's get 6 of them on the front lines"
That's exactly what I was thinking. I can't believe that after 20 minutes of that raging she didn't just go numb. She probably couldn't even speak the next day. That would wipe me out physically and mentally.
It’s crazy that prisoners get transitional housing, but foster kids are just left to flounder.
Don’t forget the illegals who are put up in hotels
crazy how many kids there are in the foster system while republicans force rape survivors to give birth
It's a sad world for sure.
These people get offered a lot of support. Most of them don’t want any guidelines though. It’s all the result of their bad families. But I will say that social services have been given orders to turn their attention away from these people, ands go after homeschoolers and parents trying to prevent their kid from mutilating themselves.
It's like throwing them in the ocean when they've never dipped their toes in water.
Jesus!!! This was extremely hard to watch. There’s clearly a copious amount of mental health issues coupled with other issues surrounding her childhood/ upbringing and the environment she was in. This is truly heartbreaking as she didn’t ask to be dealt the cards she was.
maybe but you literally dont know that. ive seen rich entitled girls act exactly the same way
@@andypehrson9316 True but dont forget most rich kids absolutely get neglected aswell so idk maybe there is a connection
@LolGamer5 true, i guess the central point is who tf knows. the only thing known is that this is now...a problem
@@andypehrson9316 modern parenting in general I feel like is a big problem, either way too strict or too loose (obvious broad statement)
@LolGamer5 so some parenting has been a problem always throughout all of time
Self regulation is the word. When someone goes the years of trauma even through childhood without treatment, self regulation, which is a skill that is learned in childhood development and helps us to calm ourselves down or listen to our emotions, is never built in these critical years from abandonment, neglect, and abuse. If never attained it may become difficult to learn later on in adult life. That is why she looks like she’s throwing a adult tantrum, because that is the only way she has ever learned to cope with strong emotions.
perfectly said - thank you for adding this.
💯 you said it perfectly 👌
Thank you!!! You explained it perfectly!!!
Well said.
She looks like she's throwing an adult tantrum because she's indeed an adult throwing a tantrum. "The only way she has ever learned to cope with strong emotions"? If she was 5yrs old, maybe. There are former Nigerian child soldiers with more self control. Empathize of course, but blaming this scenario on everyone but herself is quite naïve.
As a former foster kid that aged out of the system i feel for her on you 18th birthday at midnight you are unceremoniously kicked out and letf to fend for yourself and it is absolutely ...absolutely brutal and i even tried to prepare and my actions were limited because of the restrictions that the state puts on you while you are still a ward to the state its a broken system
Absolutely it's a broken system.
There should be transition facilities that can provide housing for 18-21 year olds where there's staff who can help them get into college or find a job and save up enough money to live independently, while also teaching about financial responsibility so kids who've aged out of the system are not left high and dry with no support net of any kind. It's cruel. I know there are a handful of foster parents who are willing to provide that safety net despite no longer getting paid to foster but those are definitely few and far between. Foster kids already go through enough bull before turning 18, why make it worse? I've never be in the system but I have family members who have been foster parents. My aunt and uncle fostered multiple disabled kids that otherwise would not have been able to be placed with families (and they were taken very good care of, they were loved by my cousins as if they were blood siblings) and my cousin and her husband fostered siblings so they would not be separated, and ended up adopting them. None of them were in it for the money, they all had really good careers so didn't need the money. They did it because they wanted to provide a safe, loving home where these kids could thrive. I wish there were more people like them.
Keep sharing your story, help bring more awareness to this problem. Make some noise.
I wish you a long healthy adult life full of success, kindness, and love. ❤
That’s exactly what I was going to say and the woman that was with her. It’s her job to keep an eye on her. So why are you working with people in bad situations if you’re going to stand out there and take the piss out of her you turn 18 and you get kicked out. She’s got no family she’s got nowhere to live so she’s sleeping on the street tonight at 18th birthday spent sleeping on the street Yeah she is acting the fool, but people are just so quick to pass a judgement sitting in the ivory towers.
@@phaedrapage4217I wonder what the transition phase is like. Like does their case worker work with them starting a few years prior to 18 to help them develop a plan? Clearly there are holes and perhaps there should be more developed systems to help those who are not as successful at setting themselves up for success.
Understandable. But acting THIS way is never the option you're supposed to go. There's no excuse for this behavior or treatment of peace officers
I have had some good friends with absolutely terrible childhoods. It definitely messes with someone, but this is on another level. The only way someone like that changes is if they want to change themselves.
For me, as a broken disorderly child, I didn’t change until I burnt all my bridges at 18, did some time homeless, mom paid for 3 months to live in a tent at a camp ground, then two semesters in college before flunking and then eventually moved out to live with a friend and got my life on track. Now I despise who I used to be and ANY trait I used to exhibit. If someone acts like I used to I quickly end up hating them, some people need to hit rock bottom before they reflect and change. I’m a better person now but it’s a shame I caused my family so much pain to get here…
THANK YOU! My sister and I grew up in the same abusive household and suffered a lot of mental and bad physical abuse. She chooses to be a victim and demand life owes her and hasn’t worked since 2003 popping out kids left and right and leaving them with my mom so she can go abuse drugs and run with villains and get arrested. I too am messed up from it but I wanted a better life for myself. I deserve the best things in life but I work my ass off for them. She used to be my hero growing up and I wanted to be just like her but these past 30 years I don’t know who she is and avoid her like the plague. She isn’t trustworthy and isn’t even allowed in my home. As adults we can pick what life we want. Therapy helped me a lot.
@@McGriddy51095no matter how much pain you caused they still love you and believe me they are so very proud of you. Good job. You deserve a good life.
Here’s the thing even if they want to chat. Some people are literally incapable. I learned this in my special Ed’s classes some people are incapable of living a normal life and need help. To just survive
@@McGriddy51095 Good on you! That's a great attitude. If there were a way to respectfully tell you I'm "proud of you" without it sounding patronizing, well, you have that. Hopefully anyone you've put through chaos, will recognize your 180 degree change. Step up for them when they're in need, deliver calm & control no matter how bad the act is - you'll find your past won't morph into guilt as much. Hating your former self is an awesome way to look at it. You've got character & standards.
From all the people I know who ended up doing time, even the worst of them - back in the 80s/90s, people didn't typically act like this with police. It freaks me out to see people so arrogantly hollering at police, armed adults, without a care in the world. When the cops come, behave, wait your turn to speak, respectfully decline & request a lawyer. Don't resist. Back in "the day", you'd be in whatever condition the officers' tolerance rates were, not the law. Note I didn't say "good ole days" - having body cams now is an honest glance into the job. Lots of messed up people out there, and they're fertile as potting soil, lol!
She's been abandoned her whole life and she probably feels like she can act up with her case worker, because the case worker takes it. She doesnt realize her actions have consequences and now here we are. She doesn't know what acting like a reasonable adult means, no concept.
She probably got abandoned because of the way she acts honestly. She's got that "I control the world and everything around me" attitude till they are proven otherwise.
you dont know any of that man cmon
I agree with this one
How do you know she's been abandoned her whole life? Maybe she's a raging A-HOLE?
@@coolstreetman for the sake of human kind never reproduce, incel.
Yes the charge for yelling in public like this is called disorderly conduct disturbing the peace.
That first cop was PATIENT.
Unfortunately he did not see the easy resolution. Show empathy, offer to drive her to DSS if she leaves the vehicle, and explain he will have to arrest her if she doesn't step out.
Absolutely. Just bless him.
Way TOO patient. Way to treat her like the adult she is SMH. So tough until it’s time for accountability. Acting like a toddler
TOO patient. Maybe if we didn’t allow them to continue to feel they are getting somewhere with the disrespect, things wouldn’t escalate so much. Obviously the guy’s patience didn’t pay off with this woman.
I guess but, he was kind of a doucher about everything, The guy had 0 care or empathy
There's some guy out here right now who will try to fix her, and he will end up calling the cops too.
@razbit….exactly! Some Simp is going to try and be her savior and get ran over metaphorically and possibly literally.
I believe the charge for yelling is disorderly conduct.
I almost commented that same thing.
& "disturbing the peace"
Exactly what i had in mind
his point was its not really helping when cop is saying "yo ima charge you w more shit bruh"
@@bugsbugsbugsbugsbugsbugsbugs hes exactly right. She probably already felt like they were itching to arrest her, and hearing that confirmed it.
I've always heard the saying, cant help anyone if they dont wanna help themselfs, and in my 15 years of living i've come to realise that the saying is true
The tragedy is she may not have the physical capacity to help herself; she seems very immature in a maniac way. I hope she turns it around, but I doubt it.
I agree that we need to use empathy in situations like these but we have to be careful that our empathy doesn't just become enabling. Constantly being lenient and understanding when things like this happen can lead to a viscous cycle and no actual growth.
Nailed it!!! ☝️☝️☝️
Exactly
Absolutely. I think the police had a history already with her and probably had interactions before she even turned 18. The time for leniency has passed with her and she needs to be held accountable. I appreciate empathy and am a very empathetic person, but this is not acceptable. This wasn’t just someone upset bc of a tough time, this was someone who fought against ANY authority from the social worker to the cops. She wants to control everything and hopefully will learn that’s not how life works.
Agreed. I absolutely feel bad for the girl and her circumstances, but her immediate and persistent toddler attitude toward the cop and having no sense of consequences with her later behaviour, both needed to be shut down, no matter the context. It's never going to get you anywhere in life, so better learn this now.
Agreed. It's true that you can't help someone who doesn't want help... But the way to make someone want help is to make sure they experience consequences for their actions.
I feel for everyone involved in this situation, and I think it went about as well as it possibly could have.
Wow, damn. I didn't expect anyone would be able to walk the line. You balanced entertainment with true empathy for a human. Well done, Mr. Lush.
appreciate that feedback, trying my best
@@LeonLush We are better than this. We don't need to re-post people at their lowest moment. This type of exposure can really harm this poor woman. Someone that did not have responsible parents and someone that has probably been abused? How would you feel if this was a family member?
On behalf of this channel, Leon and all fans here I'll tell you, this is how things go here. She made herself an example by her own actions. She obviously has some background trauma and crap she's delt with but nothing/nobody has stopped her from bettering herself soooo... Anyways, this type of content is what we watch and comment on. Bodycam stuff, funny shit, just greatness. Usually a common ground for everyone. Leon will be the first to say where, when, and what the bullshit is. You don't have to stay 😊 it's all good. Just don't pump fake when you leave, please
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You did nothing wrong Leon.
@@nunyabidness323 you realize he is reacting to it right? It was already posted.
IDK what's crazier the way this girl was reacting or the fact that things can get so bad that they need to have restraining devices like this because it's common enough they need it.
T _ T true.
plus all other other things they need to have that can be pretty common
Ive seen numerous videos where this had to be used. They have even more harsh ones they can use also.
It’s both.
Yup, they come in different sizes
Just remember, it can easily be you in those restraints.
Im Australian & our system is exactly the same with Foster Care etc.
I'm a 58yr old 1st nations Australian woman & was a part of what is known as the "Stolen Generation" taken by Government force from my parents because the Government believed they could do a better job raising me & my siblings within institutionalized care. We were made what is called "Wards Of The State" until we were 18yrs old & then tossed out on the streets with no teaching or training toward maintaining any life skills from the most basic to the most important.
We were not taught how to apply for employment or even how to seek training to put toward employment nor other life surviving skills.
Everything for me & many many other thousands of children that were put thru the systems all our life skills were self taught but there are thousands more that sadly don't have a clue due to mental health issues etc.
So I do have empathy for this lady & I hope she got that extra help she obviously needed.
PS: I'd like to know if this lady has mental health issues why didnt career meet police at the hospital to try & help resolve the situation?
From what I gathered her career just wanted to dump her at the hotel with a "Get out of my car & good luck"!!
I can hardly imagine what you went through. I saw the film "Long Walk Home" in the cinema when it came out and I still remember how deeply affected I was by the scene in which the children are torn from the arms of their screaming mothers to be taken to the state-run home. How much I cried during that scene - what incredible suffering these people were subjected to. I hope with all my heart that, despite your terrible experiences, you were able to find a life that you can say is happy and content.
That was actually really hard to watch. Thank you for handling it with respect for all parties. Clearly she’s got some trauma. You can hear it in her cries
Still she can't behave like that. The case worker who should have explained what she needs to do and get her medical help. The police did all they could she should have been in an mental institution work at least the last 5 years...
@@michaw.2168 no one said it was an excuse. It’s just evident that she has trauma.
At the end of the day she does have help with the monthly check, a case worker and other help. They mentioned her refusing to work and honestly would you hire her? There comes a point where you have to realize you fucked up and know when to just shut up for once and not dig the hole deeper.
37:54 I don't believe that pathway in her brain is functioning/developed/capable. As a child, she must have been exasperating to deal with. She needs a specialized and skilled psychiatrist.
Thank you I’m so tired of all this soy parents here giving excuses about how she was molested like if they knew! Leon I’m very disappointed with you
@@AtHome356do you know her personally?
The only one who fucked up is her lol 😆
Facts
You are correct.
It is sad
She’s obviously had a rough life
But…. You have to recognize at some point that you’re only making things worse and your life worse
I know she’s 18 but she needed parents. It’s heartbreaking. I hope she finds some love kindness and patience in this world.
You can tell this young girl has been through a lot and is scared to be on her own. She has no one...poor girl. Her voice is breaking and you can tell she doesn't want to act that way but it's all she knows.
She's in foster care. Or rather, she outgrew it. With her attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if foster families returned her.
They do not prepare kids who grow up in the system to be adults. It’s truly tragic. She was given a rough life, but the cop doesn’t have many options at this point.
You can't keep threatening, "This is your last chance..." and then NOT follow through immediately.
Cops really don't want to go hands on. I would probably give a lot of chances too.
Lol reminds me of how being a toddler mom is 😅🤦🏼♀️
EXACTLY!!!!! I was repeating that throughout the video after about the fourth time he told her to get out of the car. He asked her probably 15 times and the last four times was her “last” chance
That’s how she ended up this way in the first place!!!!
I know in my town, York PA if you turn 18 in foster care they get vouchers for renting a place, vouchers for home supplies (sheets, plates, utensils, irons, ironing boards, wash baskets, vouchers for clothes and they help them get a job. Hearing people say that they just kick you out isn't then norm in my town. I know about the vouchers because I worked with them during my time at Kmart.
I'm a Social Worker and from what I heard at the beginning she's probably fresh out of foster care (or a group home) and now in the Independent Living Program. She'll get a check every month and a case worker to help her try to navigate adult life as much as they can. Seems like she's just feeling really lost and scared right now because the little bit of stability she had by being in the system is gone now and she was probably going to be on the street that night had she not been arrested.
Independent living program I was in told me one day to grab my stuff I’m leaving. My social worker dropped me off in a scary neighborhood with my few trash bags of belongings, in front of an apartment with crime scene tape across the door. I wasn’t turning 18 for another 5 months.
Thankful but also, I was nowhere near ready for that much yet I had no clue what I was doing. My emotional intelligence definitely wasn’t there and memories of that time make me cringe I was so irresponsible.
What can be done differently to help kids in these situations?
Oh, in that case, she can behave however she wants, forever.
@@godforreal7355 I bet I can guess how you vote. Only the heartless can't see the human behind the actions.
@@mrtophat12 what? Life's like really hard. And when your life's all messed up, well you should be able to mess other people's lives up to make it fair! What am I saying that's wrong?
I appreciate your empathy. That was a tough one. I, as some one who has been through the system can promise you that the cop reminded her of someone who abused her. That wasn't acting or entitlement. That was fear and outrage. She needs help not scrutiny.
While I completely understood the need to get her out of the car, I felt for her at the same time. The police did what they had to do, but I hope she gets the help she needs.
I thought that too about her being abused. Especially at the hospital and then him taking pics of her. I get why he did but dang, poor girl.
I worked in prison for a couple decades. I learned a very valuable lesson early in my career when I got aggravated and said “you act like you like living here!” The inmate replied, “miss, I used to live in a dumpster. This is better.” I swallowed my pride and apologized for my comment. That was the day I learned that there is so much more happening than we might see. I became a much better officer (and person) after that. I’ll never forget that inmate.
Respect to you sir.
Thanks for your service dude, next donut is on me
Thanks for your service
I love laid-back Leon 😊 I really enjoyed your soft-spoken take on this sad situation, it was very nice to watch
I was a case worker for 30 years, with most of those years working with high-behavior intellectually-impaired individuals. This video triggered so many horrible memories of what this population of people, and the amazing advocates/workers that spend their lives trying to help them in a system designed to hide their existence entirely, go through. This young woman needs help desperately and the best she gets here is "act like an adult". A window into the horrible world mentally troubled people in our country live in. Thank you for handling this with respect and putting the subject out there in a way that could start necessary conversations. That's why I watch you, you're one of the good guys.
so its people like you that treat everyone with kids gloves that we have to thank for all of this current lawlessness we have across western countries. . . .
if you treated everyone the same i would think you were doing a good job. however, im guess you have a stark gender and racial bias that almost always accompanies social workers in our current society.
So, you work in pseudo-science. Just say that. You're an enabler. This girl needs discipline and then she needs to be put on a plane to a third world country to dig trenches, haul water, and build huts for people who have none of the entitlements she enjoys.
She will come back a changed young woman. People in your profession are ding dongs.
@@erikschuster4293 you made up literally every trait you believe this person possesses and are calling them the reason why things are bad in the world... sure.
@@lapotato9140 in general, its probably the correct assumption. it shouldn't be, but it probably is
@@erikschuster4293 you're unrelentingly stupid
I appreciate your humor while watching these videos with you, but even more I appreciate your kindness and understanding of our less fortunate humans.
These kids age out of the foster care system and are totally on their own. They're supposed to figure it out. Sad. This girl is her own worst enemy.
No the USA is her worst enemy, 90% of the budget goes to the military
I wish the cop would simply say...if you get out then you won't be arrested...cuz she clearly thinks she's already gonna be arrested if she gets out
i’m glad people aren’t laughing at her and poking fun, so many people like her need help. not jail. i hope things get better for her.
I like that you recognize the difference between the kinds of people in these videos, very reapectful
I’m a Family Practitioner. She may be 18 years old, but she is developmentally 12, because her parent/parents didn’t model or teach her any skills. This breaks my heart.
That is true. This was sad to watch. I feel for her.
Thats what I was thinking, the cops obviously ignored the signs that she is mentally a child still.
@@Aloysius_OHareThey're not shrinks. It's not their job to diagnose mental issues.
@@didi012578 They're not shrinks but they're human beings.
You don't need to be a shrink (odd way to call a therapist btw) to be compassionate towards someone who is obviously suffering. It's not that hard, even heartless people can see someone struggling with something. Cops are supposed to help people, descalate and what not. The cop who first arrived did nothing but escalate.
Sorry the use of the slang "shrink" offended you.
Dude this is heartbreaking. The way she cried for her caseworker she clearly has no one. Someone in her life failed her and left society to pick uo the pieces.
Agreed! To me, it seemed that her behavior and refusal to get out of the car were coming from a place of fear. I can't even blame her because I'd be scared too. I hope she's doing well, wherever she landed.
if people would help anybody like her that is "allergic" to getting a job, we would all be broke in matter of seconds...:)))
They way she screamed for a caseworker but yetvrefused to cooperate with her caseworker. Its called entitlement.
@@Jpizzle925 Entitled for what?
That was the closest thing to a parent she has and this hurt
That cop was insanely patient
New follower here! I love your way of thinking, I wasn’t sure how often I’d watch these videos but the way you described the sadness about this really touched my heart as I felt the same, your empathy towards her situation is exactly how I felt too thanks for being real
Well...shit. I'm gonna pour a drink before I watch this. Never seen Leon this stoic before. 🍺
lol only happens once in a while
@@LeonLush I normally enjoy body cam stuff, but this one is killing me. I realize that person has zero emotional coping skills and all of the screaming and verbal manipulation that used to work became a lability after her 18th birthday. Empathy is off the charts feeling bad for her, but damn she has to figure this out quick.
This is Honestly sad as someone that grew up in the social services system I’ve met a lot of other kids that was beat up and neglected by there parents and now they turn out like this I don’t 100% blame her and I hope she gets the help she needs and Leon I appreciate you showing empathy and not joking about situations like this you’re awesome brotha
May I ask, as you have your self been in hard situations when you were younger, did you behave like this? And do you think having a hard life is an excuse to behave like this and cause other people problems? And if so where does it stop and when can you hold people accountable?
@@DagmaraPettit people will always have to be held accountable for their actions in my opinion, but that’s because I joined the military as soon as I turned 18 to give myself that fighting chance. It’s up to the kid on what kind of life they want to live when they grow up and for them to try to seek that help if it means counseling or finding an outlet to help. I still do therapy just so I can fight those demons but to each there own.
I understand what you’re saying but I guess I look at it completely different. My mom has hated me since the day I was born and made sure I knew it. She also made sure I knew what a piece of shit I was every single day. She destroyed any self-esteem, self-confidence, self-respect, etc. I would ever have. I’ll never be the person I was supposed to be bc of her abuse. I feel like she murdered a part of my soul. I would never act like this. Of course everyone is different and process things differently but I still don’t think it’s ever an excuse to lash out and abuse others. I think the childhood trauma/abuse I went through caused me to do the exact opposite- I know what it feels like to be abused, and bc I know that pain, I would never intentionally do anything to cause another person to feel that pain. Too many people blame their bad behavior on past trauma and use it as an excuse to justify their actions instead of taking accountability and working on getting better. Hopefully things work out for her and she gets her life together. It’s a sad situation.
@@firstnamekaty8830 definitely agree with you people must take responsibility of there actions. And every situation is completely different IE drugs, mental abuse, physical abuse and neglect. Growing up in the System I knew teenagers that would fight therapist, teachers and social workers because of drug abuse they were exposed to or other shit. And I’m talking about kids that were about to be 18. The system is fucked and I’m also very sorry you went through that
@@malcomb6823 I definitely agree with you too. And thank you for your kind words❤️ I’m sorry you had to go through a rough childhood as well. It’s not fair. No child should ever have to go through that kind of pain. It causes life long issues.
Aging out of the system must be pretty scary honestly , especially when it sounds like they are just booted out when they turn 18
Whenever I think I'm having a bad day at work, I'll remember this video...
This is very sad. She's 18 and has nobody. She needs help.
Can be sad but sometimes when people are 18 and have nobody the person is a lost cause everyone had to leave for their own well being
I'm sure she would be grateful if you would sponsor her.
@@Ooh_PieceOfCandy requires substantially more than that, you stupid fuck, including the services your owners practically shut down.
@@Ooh_PieceOfCandyI think empathy is way more needed than an attitude like this. People in the social services suffer from real shit that happened in their house when they were just an innocent child.
😭 she needs to learn that life aint fair.
shoutout to you for actually going into a body cam video with some empathy and compassion. cause you so right a lot of the comments on some of these videos are absolutely egregious for real
She has no one. This is a total reflection of our foster system. This was so hard to watch. I feel so bad for this girl.
Because foster care isn’t the problem! The problem are the people who brought her into this world and then dumped her. No one is supposed to be raised by a government organization. There are some great foster homes. There are also some people who will spin out of control. The only thing we can do as a society is maintain boundaries so they can learn to function within them,
i feel bad for her too, but i feel worse for officers who have to deal with people like her and they are completely unequipped to. Then they look like the bad guys because they are asked to deal with grown babies.
We need to stop forcing people to have babies. Vote for reproductive rights.
@macemaster that person was a child like 5 minutes ago, is STILL a child mentally, and if her foster situation was stable & healthy, she wouldn't be anywhere near this mess.
@@katiejon17 you don't get these situations with healthy foster situations. If her foster parents had love for her she'd probably have a bed to sleep in.
She either doesn't have friends or they aren't the kind you'd wanna stay with.
Officer was more than patient with this rude, disrespectful young lady. The social worker went above & beyond helping her with her errands. If people are willing to help you, don’t make them regret it by making bad choices like this behavior.
These New Mexico officers here handled this challenging situation very well, good thing police cameras are utilized.
This girl is different than the average drunk or high wacko. She is 18, alone, and mentally ill. If we don’t figure out how to help these kids, all our futures are grim. I’m praying for her.
Well done, Leon. I appreciate this video and hope to see more of this format. Please add the beautiful Mrs. Lush. I think you two together like this would be fantastic.
I am glad I saw your comment right after I posted. I dreaded reading them. For a first I'm glad there are so many good ppl still out there.
I was once her and its a nightmare. 51 now
That's true, but what is the solution? Everyone says they want to do something better or that we should do it a different way. But no one wants to be the one to respond or be able to respond 24/7. No one wants to spend hours deescalating only to do it a few hours later with someone else. No one wants to risk their own safety to deal with this type of person.
Everyone has empathy from afar where they are nice and safe and don't have to deal with someone like this.
It's easy to arm chair and say you would do this or do that, but what happens when the individual is 2x your size? Believe me, I worked on prisons for over 10 years, we would spend hours trying to deescalate... literally. Only to have them get physical at the end of it.
You can say you can provide them housing, but what happens when they abuse themselves or others? What happens when they destroy the nice things/environment you provide them? What will you do? What happens when you assign them case workers and therapists and the mental health people literally get assaulted and/or raped.
For all the help you will try to provide you will need to balance security. Security is never perfect and in those imperfections you will find inherent risks that can only be overcome with more security and more inhumane treatment.
She was likely abused in her household and then again in foster care by other residents and/or supervisors.
Funny how an exact video of an 18yr old Black girl elicited racially hate filled comments. Even the title was triggering.
Sorry, I know this is a tough one to watch, but have you even considered that this is how this woman controlled the people around her for years as a minor. Now she is finding out that it doesn't work as an ADULT. Time to grow up. Screaming at people like a maniac because you don't want to do what you're expected to do is not a mental health issue, it's a control tactic to get her way, and when she doesn't get her way from just screaming she begins to use violence. Sorry man, but she's playing you and all of us.
Our future is grim because we allow these kids to be entitled brats, no expectation of self discipline, respect for authority, no demand for adulting what so ever. We want everyone who acts out for not getting their way to be mentally ill. 95% are simply entitled who have never been forced to take the answer no .
Her reaction of "I only wanted to do something other than I was told and now it isn't right you're making me do what I was told"...is not mental illness, it's what we are raising as acceptable.
She wouldn't have been in any trouble if she simply got out of the car. All her hysteria is from her own choices and the consequences to HER choices.
I’ve worked with many young people and young adults over the years and the way she treats that police man is quite common. When speaking to them after they have calmed down they have admitted there was no reason, they were just angry and wanted someone to take it out on. I have felt so bad for the cops when they have been so good and understanding.
I will say, her endurance was impressive.
Yelling and screaming that loudly, with that consistency, isn't easy.
She could have been a metal vocalist, no joke.
She’s 18. Energy fear and adrenaline are quite a combo.
I've noticed that when people get arrested, they choose one cop to hate, throw slurs at, spit at, swear at, go off on.
I've seen it in every video.
Love the laid back feel and setting of this video -- appropriate vibe since we're not ripping apart this young troubled girl. Best of luck to her
I think she should play hockey
Jail is not the answer. I hope she gets the mental health care she needs.
not in 'Murica, she won't, sadly.
Jail is the answer. Actions have consequences. And if she isn’t unstable enough to be instituted, then she needs jail. You have no idea how much support is offered to these people - you see it in the video. If you are going to be a member of society, you have to stay within boundaries. This young woman is not. For many of these people, they choose to learn the hard way. But a savior complex does nothing to help these people, it just makes you feel good about yourself.
@@katiejon17you are literally in every single comment thread telling those with empathy that they are wrong. What happened to you that you would criticize anyone empathizing?
@@katiejon17 You work for CPS, don't you.
@@MissaPality works for CPS most likely
While I know every person is different, oftentimes when we've seen youth acting this way, they have been handled too lightly by their caregivers prior to the outbursts. What I mean is that the parents/foster family haven't made them do the hard work. As if they were afraid of them fleeing or afraid of the state. Caring for someone is a massive undertaking. BUT the caregiver must be wise enough to be nurturing when necessary AND firm when necessary. Teaching always.
She's old enough to know better no matter what. She made a bad decision when she went off on her support person. Then made it so much worse with her attitude toward the officers. When they took charge, she went bonkers because no one tells her no.
yup
Yep , I don't think she is mentally ill ... just use to getting her way !
I feel for her, you know her life is currently a mess. She had nowhere to go and was stuck. Most get to just go home, she doesn’t.
I think she reacted like that because she panicked; she had no where to go, she's 18 and most likely all alone. I feel sorry for her. She obviously needs help, not jail.
You can feel her desperation in the beginning… if she left that car, she’d be alone on the streets that night. If I had no home, no one, and no money, I wouldn’t want to leave that car either.
Me too man poor girl. Homelessness or jail, or sex work. The world is so cutthroat people in their bubbles pretend it not
She needs to get clean
@@floresgt3 I don't know if people are trying to pretend the world isn't shitty, I think everyone realizes it is and they're all just coping with it and dealing with their own issues. There are a select few who actively exploit how shitty the world is for the rest of us, fuck them in particular.
I dont. A man would never get away with this behavior. Almost every person that acts like this in these videos are struggling mentally. Idk why people are picking and choosing who to feel sorry for.
I would say there is most certainly a charge for yelling. Disorderly conduct, threatening a police officer or public official, obstruction, disturbing the peace.........
Dont forget resisting
In her cries, I hear disappointment, abandonment issues, fear, memories of abuse, feelings of being useless and nonexistent and unloved. She is NOT an adult. She is a child, who has probably never seen responsible acts by adults.
Her actions are not excusable, but in a way, understandable. Years of uncertainty and abuse have resulted in this tirade of psychotic behavior.
Well said that's what I thought as well
If she's over 18 she's an adult
@@Flowervibes101 Age has nothing to do with processing childhood traumas, which evidently she's been through.
@pamtaylor8921 No, it doesn't, but she is still an adult who's interacting with a cop. I understand acting differently with cops due to being mentally ill. But this was on a whole other level that you can't really just excuse it for being mental health issues. For me I'm on the spectrum and at times i have a hard time talking or raising my voice and i do get a little frisky if I'm not being listened to but I don't do what this woman did lol
@@Flowervibes101 I'm not condoning her actions at all. We just have no idea what her young life has been like.
I do know that if you have no love for yourself, or no sense of self worth, it's hard to show love and respect for others.
Still not acceptable.
foster system at 18: " YOUR S.O.L." this sums it up perf
I don't think the reality of the situation is sugar coated for foster kids. They should be preparing when they are 17 and, if foster care is as bad as is always stated, then they should be celebrating they have freedom to be out of it.
@@mortimerbrewster3671what a retarded take
maybe she was booted out of care because she .... watch the video
@@unsheepled you're booted out at 18. Theres practically no preperation for it and unless you have somewhere to go, youre on the street
If you don't treat your foster parents like crap, most would keep helping you.
Also, there's Job Corps, they offer transitional housing and vocational training for ages 16 to 24 nationwide. But you need to be willing to work and stay off drugs. An attitude like hers won't make it in the program.
That's gotta be a really stressful situation for a cop to go through.
Really! It's the cop your concerned about.
I think there's more to this than all these boo-hoo'ers know about. They're trying to make her the worlds biggest victim. Im sure she makes her rounds with the entire department with her friends stirring up trouble.
No one should take joy watching ppl like her❤️🩹
I feel for this woman she just needed a minute w the case worker and obviously has problems. My heart bleeds for this woman
I love how they always say "I'm not doing anything!" Well, you are fighting the police Ma'am!
Good thing Homeboy had a body cam. She tried to flip it at the end with his fellow officers. "You didn't see everything that happened up to then" Bet dude is REAL glad that those cams are mandatory.
Desperation makes people act out sometimes. Sad that she has no one to turn to.
Sad that we watch this stuff for entertainment
I'm at the end of the the video... I have a high level of respect for you, Mr Lush, it's obvious you are empathetic and open-minded.
I know this video is a bit older but your thoughts mean a lot. People need someone like yourself to express a diff way of thinking.
Blessings
This entire situation hurt my heart
She didn't handle anything the right way but I can completely understand the feel of having no safe choice and being extremely lost. Having no place to go and no one that can help is the most terrifying place to be in life.
☝️☝️☝️ Yes, THIS. Well said, mad respect. 🙌
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Yes, she seems desperate more than anything else. Poor lass.
@@outlaw_80its actually not that well said, if she had a dad he wasnt present in her life adequately. Woman have maternal instinct which will make them say things like they understand that shes going through trama, which isnt actually true. Its likely she had a devouring mother which is a psychological term that describes what is happening on a wide scale today and didnt happen as much about 20 years ago and more. Its narscasistic compassion that allows this to fester with young woman and men, and modern feminism is one of the biggest roots of the problem, not classic feminism dont get it mixed up. It teaches woman that losing is scary, so they raise kids with a narscasistic participation trophy type attitude that causes these children to not understand real hardship. The situations of this video are extremely trivial and when you are raised by a devouring mother these small situations feel very very stressful for no reason, its no doubt shes stressed, but it doesnt warrant any compassionate response, she basically needs to grow up
Exactly! Also, that cop didn't handle it well. It almost felt likes he was enjoying the power over her. In the car she yelled 'predator' at him. I can understand why, I got the same vibe. Of course I can be wrong. Cops have a difficult job that deserves respect, but unfortunately there are some creepy apples amongst them too. With her having nobody on this earth, she has very good reason to be terrified like that.
@EllaGreenn shut up snowflake. How dare you maje this guy seem like a predator. He was called by the case worker after all options were exhausted. He also gave her 1000 chances and she was being everything but cooperative. He's literally just asking her to get out of the car.....
She's definitely not a Karen or otherwise spoiled brat. She obviously has broken with reality for some reason. Hopefully she gets the care she needs which is NOT putting here in jail.
Absolutely.
Jail only causes further trauma /dehumanization . I feel very bad for her
Let's monetize this with some good ol reaction UA-cam content!
Why you watching?
@@pinecone3870agreed
She may have experienced trauma and that could explain her behavior but it certainly doesn't justify it. She's well old enough to know right from wrong and what is and isn't appropriate behavior. She knows it's wrong to not get out of someone else's car when you're told to. She knows that when a police officer gives you a direct order, you do what he says. She knows when you're being arrested not to resist. Do I feel kind of bad for her? Sure. But she still can't behave that way just because she's had a rough life.
laid back vibes Leon is my spirit animal
Mine too
This is absolutely heartbreaking. When he approached the car, you could tell she was trying really hard not to cry and the fear and sadness came out as anger. I couldn’t imagine not having the support of my parents even when I was 20. Who knows what she’s had to go through while in foster care through her life which makes her react like this. It makes me so sad 😞
The one person she trusted just wanted her out. That's reinforcing the trauma 😢
@@mandilynn24 Well maybe we should think about how she treated the one person she "trusted" who got to the point where she felt her only option was to phone the Police.
We have no idea what prior but it must have been a nice little chit chat with "someone she trusted". The case worker was so petrified of her that she was standing well away from the car and had to be asked by the Police Officer to talk to her.
@@xixXxxXxix 100% agree with you! I was just seeing it from her eyes because she is oblivious to anything anyone says.
Yes!!! I was just about to comment this. But after 2 damn paragraphs I just deleted it. I totally agree with u. Those with teenagers should be very familiar with her type of tantrum. Yes, she was wrong but she’s terrified and frustrated.
@@mandilynn24what was she supposed to do? She has things to do she’s of age. She can’t take her back, she can’t take her home.
I give that cop alot of credit for keeping his cool
I think he got off on it.
Shut the hell up 😂 @@susieblu4152
FOR SURE.
Cop was an ass
@@susieblu4152, got off on what?🙄
Stupid comment.
she screams through the whole thing...how they stand that...
I actually feel guilty watching this. Like we’re an audience watching this girl at her lowest point.
Weird, I had that thought later into the video than I want to admit
Blame Leon.
I hope she gets help
@@galaxyride4944 Yes. Blame someone else for your actions. I agree.
@@galaxyride4944typical victim mentality
This poor girl probably has so much trauma and she just added to her list with this experience she put herself in. She needs a lot of help
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Not to mention how much its going to cost her to get out of it and then there’s probation. Which you already know she probably won’t be able to abide by all their stipulations. Hopefully not and she will get help. They really should have brought a female officer. She might have been able to deescalate the situation. Idk i have so many questions tho.
Maybe being locked up for awhile might help her. I wouldn't normally say that because, well jail sucks, but..... sometimes it can be enough to help get people some sort of skill set or into an educational program.
Yeah that was hard to watch. She's clearly a prisoner of her own mind.
@@whoathatsanicememe3093 😂😂😂
Thank you for pointing out that there is a difference between someone who is mentally too far gone and someone who is behaving in an entitled way. It highlights that it needs to be handled differently and starts the conversation on how to do that ethically and safely. I think these cops get worn out and stop being able to tell the difference or just don't have the energy to deal with it. I got the feeling that the cop started saying she was in his custody because it bothered her, it felt wrong and I do think a female officer might have been able to handle this better. Also, the guy who took the photos was trying to say they have to document when there is any use of force and/or restraints being used.
Oh that cop absolutely was egging her on in the squad car. It made me feel ill listening to him. He could just say nothing and she might have calmed down a bit.
I was looking for this thread. I knew it wasn’t just me that noticed. Either the guy gets a kick out of antagonizing his arrests and normally does this or his ego was actually hurt during the first part of the video. I understand that it must be incredibly frustrating to deal with someone so petulant but that is why cops need help in these situations. In the end it’s all really complicated and maybe I’m just talking out of my ass but atleast someone else noticed
@@aztekpriest6311 This had nothing to do with ego. He really did try to talk her. But somepoint you need to act. At the hospital thou, that resting officer shuold of not stayed the room. This is what I and collegues did kinda similar situations, that if one obviously triggers that behaviour, that person leaves and others stay there. That reaction is that in that girls mind that officer is the enemy and nothing he says will make it better. Other officer "might" be able to reason her in someway. Most likely not, but at least it might not go from 70 to 100 like it happened when resting officer entered the room.
Love how you take these kind of situations in a kindly way! Mental health is a serious issue we need to heart! 💜
I’m so happy you mentioned having empathy for her. It’s sad to watch a young woman in so much pain and have nowhere to go.
I can only imagine your empathy if it was a man in the exact same situation
So explain to me this. She is obviously in the foster care system based on what they've been saying I. E having a case worker and her being kicked out of the system when she's eighteen, She knew she would no longer have a place to stay or people to care for her when she turned eighteen. Therefore, an adult with a functioning brain would have figured out. Hey I should probably plan and prepare to be on my own. Therefore, an adult with a functioning brain would have figured out. Hey I should probably plan and prepare to be on my own when I turn 18.It is irrational to think that someone will keep caring for You when you don't want to take care of yourself
@@corngrohliothis is honestly so true, many teen boys that are like this are either forced to grow up or continue to be bad individuals. I feel for the boys who are forced to grow into men at such a young age. But it’s the same for women, grow up now or continue to be a nuisances. Both genders are equal, how you feel should be judged by their actions, not their gender.
She had somewhere to go; out of the car lmao
Amen.More boys and men in this country suffer more than females.Females have WAY more resources offered to them then males,hands down.@@corngrohlio
Dang man thats so sad. The hell that police officer go through
I love laid back lush, keep it real bro.
I've seen this so much, and the police dealt with it well. I dont think he was bragging about additional charges, more like stress over the additional drama.
Damn, I just feel bad for her. She's clearly got problems, it's sad to be 18 and have no one there for you, she's still just a kid in need of guidance.
I respect your choice to be kinder to this girl than others. No matter the reason why, could you imagine being 18 and having no home? Nowhere to keep your stuff or even sleep at night? If your life sucked this bad, you might flip out too.
Eh, I hit the streets and walked the country. Didn't freak out at all. 'Course a guy freaking out goes to prison, and nobody cares when they are homeless *shrug*
Still no reason to be so upset with police
Yep, so hard for beautiful young women to get off the streets.. Not like other women are more comfortable taking us in than men, not that there are not loads of women's shelters, not that there are battered shelters that allow someone in just for saying they are fleeing domestic abuse, or manage to get anyone attracted to you (BF/GF/Hopeful Friend) to give you a couch.
But at a certain point someone can be so fucking crazy/nasty that no matter what else, the answer is 'nope'' and you put yourself on the street.
I’d go to a homeless shelter or a church for help
The cop was so nice, theres no excuse dude, shes being an annoying brat
Putting her in the restraints is considered use of force, they were just documenting that.
It's not use of force it's dealing with someone who wanted to FUCK around and find out😂
She is so confused about what to do. She is BEGGING for the police officer to act, as he will make the decision for her.
He actually took too long, and gave her too many chances.
No one wants to ever speak the truth, but when you’ve worked with these people.... SOCIETY CANNOT FIX WHAT THE PARENTS EFF UP.
We can’t. This is not because of us, or society, or schools, or foster homes - it is because of the families.
And yes, social services are often barking up the wrong homes (as we have all seen in recent years).
But this is all happening because we people don’t feel shame anymore for being crap parents. Ultimately, there has to be consequences - we cannot keep letting the crazies run the show.
it really does start in the family... unfortunately the nuclear family has not been a priority for a number of years now and the fallout from that is unimaginable
@@LeonLush well with over 2 million subscribers and a being a solid family man... what an incredible opportunity you have to play a major role in bringing that back. Don’t underestimate your impact. Please.
She did have multiple chances
Facts
And multiple battery cases.
after their 18th birthday these kids have no chance
@macemasterwhat in the fuck are you yapping about
im in my 60s ive grown allergic to work. terrible makes me break out. break out in a sweat
this is the funniest thing i’ve read all day
i got traumatized in my youth from 7 years of abuse and then some more as an adult by a former employer, after seeing no way out as shit gradually kept getting worse, after getting 0 empathy for health problems i had for years, after getting told i needed to work on not being sick so often and then 0 empathy when i needed heavy surgery which took me 6 months to recover from of which 2 months were in bed because my body was weakened to the point were it became dangerous, after getting 0 empathy when my gf was assaulted at home, was severely beaten and was choked so bad that i could hear her vocal chords were damaged when she called me after it happened and then got told to just finish my day as if nothing happened. not to mention the level of support i got or rather didnt get when she ended up killing herself because almost everyone in her life had abused her. i ended up suing them and i won, leaving them bankrupt, yet i still lost and get crippling anxiety and ST when getting in a situation that even vaguely resembles those years. and yes i've tried getting help but have yet to find something that works
nobody can read minds and you never know what someone has been through. even typing this down... and knowing how 'understanding' people can be
This feels like an interaction ive had with a stray cat trying to help it and give it food😂😂
No family, no love, and no money must be so traumatic. I am so lucky I’ve had all three. 😢
I feel two ways. She was clearly failed by those who should've been there for her, but she's not completely innocent. She knew she was going to age out at some point. The caseworker didn't seem indifferent to me. I'm sure she helped as much as she could, but at some point it falls on the girl to handle. She didn't went to be shackled and brought to jail. The caseworker didn't want to be held hostage in the parking lot of a random hotel. She "just wanted to talk" to her caseworker. She did! For a few hours. You can't hold someone hostage and refuse to leave their car, house, property or whatever, because that person can't fix your problems. She wanted respect and wanted the officer out of her space. The caseworker wanted the same. Respect and the girl out of her car.
I agree with you. There's a limit to what caseworkers and social services can provide. Many caseworkers go above and beyond what's legally required of them to help. This girl also needs to actually want the support, work within the parameters of the programs offered, and act like an adult as well. Unfortunately maybe she was having a rough day, maybe she was dealing with something traumatic this particular day. Who knows. The whole situation is unfortunate on all angles
As someone who has had to suffer spending 12 hours in an ER with a prisoner like this, I commend these officers on their restraint. These are the hardest people to deal with and it's usually a combination of a mental issue, drug/alcohol, a shitty situation at home and a general disregard for authorities because of her compiling shit sandwich of a situation
Absolutely agree, have seen so many people bad mouthing the cops, they have no idea
And it sucks as a healthcare provider because we really don’t have anything we can do. I think between law-enforcement and healthcare all of us are extremely overburdened because of what has become an extreme mental health crisis in the United States. Hospitals are for sick people police are meant to deal with crimes. There’s a huge gap where we need more mental health employees who work in places that aren’t just their little office. We’re at crunch time things have to change. I have felt so helpless in the ER before because we have patients in there who clearly need help and we have no resources. We stabilize them medically and turn them right back out on the street. I will add I no longer work in that sort of nursing.I burned out. This just sucks.
The big contradiction in America is saying theyre an adult at 18 and not allowing alcohol consumption until 21.
That doesn’t matter. Those are finer details that don’t mean much when you consider the human brain isn’t fully developed until 25 or so for most people. The long term decision making part is the last to develop so young people make poor decisions.
Almost as if it’s designed that way. Lack of perspective on long term consequences is a cash cow in a consumerist’s economy.
People shouldn’t be considered an adult until 25.
You can join the army at 18 but you gotta wait till 21 to get a handgun. We have a fair amount of odd laws in this country.
@@TheSCPStudio rasie the voting age to 25!
21 year olds are pretty dumb. 18 year olds are stupid af
@@74rocktiger74 No
My heart breaks for her seriously 18 years old with nobody in her life to help her she's desperate angry sad lost prob an addict she is a product of a system that will chew you up and spit you out i understand whole heartedly how someone can end up like this because ive been there and done that I was used and abused by the juvenile system PRAYERS FOR HER
I’m sorry you went through something similar, it happens more than we know.
Hunny please.. this broad is an entitled brat. Don’t feel sorry for trash like this
Thank you for showing compassion. I think you about summed it up. Sorry those things happened to you. You deserve love like everyone else and so does she.
Life is rough but if you don't accept reality and take responsibility for your actions, things will never improve
I remember being that age, no support, tears, sad, boo. No excuse for being an asshole. Harsh.
Definitely not a typical Leon Lush video. You're a good man, Leon, with a big heart and lots of empathy. Now go hug your wife and your kid.
Leon, I just started watching your UA-cam videos. I cannot stop watching your videos. 5 thumbs up to you bro!! I CANNOT GET ENOUGH OF THEM, SPECIALLY THIS ONE.
I’m a cop and whenever I’ve had to deal with a distressed female in custody, I’ve asked for another officer of the opposite sex to help with the situation and even as far as to pass it on to them because you never know what kind of trauma they’ve had to be in that situation and you can just make it worse. That officer was condescending and you could tell he was enjoying the reaction he was getting from the girl. I could be reading to much into it and it’s just my opinion.
I had a similar line of thinking. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because I’m a therapist, so my priority is always the other person’s emotional safety. I’m sure with law-enforcement there’s many other things to consider, but he did seem to enjoy, triggering her. Especially in the hallway at the hospital, I felt he could’ve stepped back, at least gotten out of her range of sight and shut his mouth. He gave her zero room to emotionally regulate.
Good man need more cops like that this cop has ZERO deescalation skills and has a terrible tone for trying to calm anyone down
Yeah I didn’t like that guy, he kept baiting her and it was obvious he was enjoying it. I could practically hear the smirk when he walked up and offered her water. Saying ‘you’re in my custody now,’ multiple times just feels sinister
Cops can't be social workers for everyone. Some are more skilled & adept at handling tantrums, some are on the cutting edge of empathy & make extraordinary attempts to reason with messed up teenagers. But this is a howling, senseless, arrogant, flailing woman who might have been screaming in their ears for hours every other day. A cop's insensitive about her getting herself in REAL trouble, and suddenly the "I'd never treat her like this" violin plays.
That officer can deliver facts as flippantly & cold as he wants. She's got to be told about adult charges & she obviously hasn't heard that in any way that cuts through. if he feels good about telling her this, let her take her medicine, welcome to the adult world - she's been howling at him with total lies for the whole video. It took their pleading with her for how long to get out of the car? How many pleas does it take before it's groveling or begging?
Not everyone enjoys babysitting teenagers throwing tantrums. They're wearing armor & pistols for a reason, as you HAVE to recognize. If officers have to dodge gunfire, emotionally vulnerable teens can get their condescending attitudes fed right back to them & everybody lives.
I've seen people get their jaws broken yelling at cops like this back in the late 80s & early 90s. Duct tape over mouths, hog-tied on the floor of the paddywagon, every possible fluid on their clothes...
I actually saw one of the cops on monday, he always had bruises on his knuckles back in the day after weekends from people wanting to fight cops every friday/saturday night when the clubs got out. His partner was the one you never wanted to anger. Different generation. Juxtaposing that with an officer being condescending, it just seems so petty.
@@NunchucksHabit i totally agree, in fact, i thought this cop gave her too much grace at the start, after 4 or 5 "pump fakes" its time to move it on to the next step... It not his fault that at no point did she cooperate or obey his lawful orders... Cops shouldn't be counselors, that's what counselors are for. Cops are there to enforce the law not de escalate to hold some womans hand that is going nuts and wont listen.