... I'm making a list of all the flyer excuses used by the various youtube gun gurus ... "chair sinking into the ground because of rain" ... that's definitely a new one
I have always been partial to 140gr Partitions. In fact, it is the only bullet for 270 that I have used in three decades. I will usually do my load development surrounding that very bullet. It has always put my deer in the dirt. Thank you for this excellent video and God bless you!
This is a great no nonsense video that new shooters should watch. I hate seeing when people review several guns with the same type of factory ammo and proclaim one is more accurate. One rifle may have a faster twist or longer throat. It could also have longer barrel making more velocity. The first range trip should be with 3-4 different bullets in different lengths and grain weights. Let the gun tell you what it likes and dial in from there.
I load the 150 and 168 speer gold dot in my 308. I loaded some 165 partition and the 168 accubond long range for family member. Btw there rifle is 30-06 the partition is for deer/elk in remington 7400 in 30-06 semi auto and the accubond is for his 1903 springfield.
They are tough to beat. The partition is probably the best all around hunting bullet ever made, but the Speer Hotcore is probably the best value especially for lighter large game like deer.
Tom, just found your channel. Excellent. I too am a huge fan of the 7 x 57. Drove me nuts finding a consistent load. I won't post the charge here but I will refer you to Jack O'Connor "the hunting rifle" . His load was for 139 or 140 grain bullets with IMR 4320 and Winchester Brass. Superb sub 0.5 in groups consistently. Good luck shoot straight.
Thanks Joe. The load I came up with using IMR 4350 and the 145gr Speer Hotcore worked ok and I took a decent buck last fall using it but it isn't "the" load. Maybe I'll get a chance to expereiment more this spring? And if so I'll definitely try the IMR 4320. I'll also be really interested in seeing how it compares to Varget since they have almost identical burn rates?
My wife's 6mm loves 80gr rem corlock. It will print a 3 shot clover left. My ruger 6 likes federal 80gr under a inch My 700 likes 100gr corlock I can get 5 shots under 1/2 a inch. But its the heavy barrel varmint rifle thats had some work done.
Daniel, I love H4350 for the 7x57 and my friend Joey has gotten some great velocity and accuracy with H380 in his 7mm-08. And I would have swore I just answered this one? You Tube shows comments I haven't responded to and this one was next on the list so I apologize if I've already answered it for you.
The 150 grain Partition at 1" may still be the better hunting round. The Partition gives you a little more edge in the fudge factor area where you may need to take a less than perfectly angled shot.
I have to admit the Partition just might be the best all around hunting bullet ever designed? But with that said, for deer where penetration isn't really an issue, the Speer Hotcore is really hard to beat especially when you factor in the price difference. But for larger game I would probably choose the Partition. And I don't think I got into this in any of the other videos, but the reason I was trying those 2 bullets in particular is because they have been around for so long that they were actually design to work well with the 7x57. Almost all of the newer bullets have been designed exclusively for the higher velocities of the 7mm's like the 7mag and 280. So it can be challenging finding a 7mm bullet that's soft enough to also work at slower velocities.
Last year I used a CZ550 in 7x57 with a 150 gr. Nosler Partition. It was the first time for all three, and all went well. I've never used the partition before, and can't say my deer was deader than from a cup-n-core, but certainly no complaints.
I'm really liking your videos. I'm wondering how you think 7mm Mauser compares to 7mm-08? Do you think they are too similar to consider owning a rifle chambered in both? How much more performance can you gain over 7mm-08 with the Mauser? At some point I would like to do reloading, but I am not sure how many different calibers I would want to do it for, given the variety of firearms I have. And not to throw too much at you all at once, but I was wondering how much experience you have with .257 Roberts and 6.5 Creedmore? I have a couple of young ones who will be coming of age in a few years and I wonder what the best caliber might be for them?
I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! As for 7mm-08 vs 7mm Mauser there's almost no difference between them. And since you don't hand load now you would actually loose performance because American ammo manufactures have always under loaded 7x57. They claim its because so many of the early small ring Mauser rifles still out there but I've never believed that. American factory 7x57 isn't even loaded to the pressure of the standard ammo issued with those old Mausers that they're referring to. European 7x57 is loaded to max pressure but that's not exactly easy to get here. If you hand load you can theoretically get slightly better performance than the 7mm-08 because the 7mm Mauser case has ever so slightly more powder capacity but the 2 are so close that you would have to find the absolute perfect load to see the difference and even then it wouldn't be much of a difference. So yes I think the 2 are to close to worry about owning each. As for reloading, I load for a lot different cartridges and I enjoy it but reloading is its own thing almost completely different than shooting and hunting. It's more about manufacturing really precise things. It's fun when you work up a great load but you need a lot of time to spend on it and it will actually cost you more. But if you have the time and really enjoy learning about every little aspect of a cartridge then you might enjoy it? And as for the 257 Roberts or the 6.5 Creedmoor for a youngster, that is a tough one! I dearly love the 257 and hunt with one regularly, but I would have to recommend the 6.5C (that really hurt me to say that). The 257 Roberts is a dying cartridge. It's gotten a little boost in popularity over the last decade but it's still slowly dying out. The 6.5C is at the height of it's popularity so there are so many more ammo choices for it along with rifle choices. I hope some of that helps!
Garth, I completely agree with everything Tom has written to you above. If you don't mind I would like to put my 2 cents in the ring concerning cartridges for young folks. Depending on the area you will be hunting in and the distances one would expect to shoot at on a regular basis, anything from a 30-30 to a 270 would be just about perfect. For young hunters starting out (limited shooting/hunting experience) I would recommend the 7mm-08 over a 257 Roberts or .243 Win just on the size of the wound channel alone. Felt recoil is a huge issue with youngsters also. Flinching is a terrible habit to have and that usually starts with a young hunter shooting too much gun. And the great thing about ammo these days is that several mfgs make "low recoil" ammo which is even better. The 6.5CM is a fine hunting cartridge. I've owned 2 myself and they perform wonderfully on deer and hogs, but whose to say that 10 years from now the 6.5 CM may not be near as popular as it is now and then availability becomes an issue. Forget about the shortage now. That will pass soon enough. If it were me with youngsters just starting out, I would opt for the 7mm-08 and start out on "low recoil" ammo. Good luck.
@@easttexan2933 Thanks for that. This spring I will be teaching my daughter, who is 8, how to shoot with a 22LR. My son will be 6 by then, but I think he will probably need another year before he's big enough for the length of pull on that rifle. So this year I will be focussing of basics of shooting with my just daughter, and safety fundamentals of hunting and shooting with both kids. So far my daughter hasn't expressed the will to hunt, but she definitely wants to learn to shoot. My son on the other hand can't wait to hit the deer woods with me. So depending on how this year goes, within the next year or so I will probably start looking for a rifle better suited for kids hunting whitetails in the midwest. Part of me wants to find a good caliber for all around use including longer ranges (leaning toward 6.5CM for that), and another part of me is considering just picking up a straight walled rifle for mostly myself and the kids too (350 Legend). As they get older, I have several rifles they could potentially use, including a 7mm-08 and a 270Win, but If they are like most of us, they will probably start looking for their own rifle to buy when they reach their upper teenage years. So now that creates an interesting bit of humor with everything I have just said; who am I actually buying a rifle for😄? Yeah, I know...who am I kidding? I just want to buy more guns😂. I would say because my daughter is already very petite even for 8 she would be the more recoil sensitive one. The 7mm-08 is my primary rifle for hunting, and I know the recoil impulse well for 140gr bullets. It's definitely a puppy dog to me when it comes to shooting it, but I could see it knocking around my little girl a bit with her small frame. I don't know, time will tell if she fills out a bit more, but I suspect she is going to always be petite. So I guess that begs the question; do they make low recoil 7mm-08 in something like a 120gr bullet? How much recoil do you suppose that could make?
@@hammerheadms the ammo info you're looking for can be found on the Hornady website. Also, since your daughter is a petite size, may I suggest the .223 or 22-250 to start with. Those are the only two calibers I'm familiar with that have practically no recoil. But that brings into play the ethical part of hunting for such a young person. My best advice to you would be to not rush her into it. Include you son in that decision too. Good luck.
Tom great videos sir super informative very knowledgeable and to the point with proven results to show appreciate you sharing ur knowledge Thanks Tom from a Louisiana Hunter man the information you shared about the property that you and your brother hunters shared for over 30 years that ended up being leased out to a group of disrespectful dishonest lazy guys had me boiling being the gentleman that you are you handled it just like the true gentleman and ethical Hunter you are please continue to pass this incredible information That the Good Lord has blessed you to have God bless you and your family and may you have many many more beautiful hunting experiences Kofi Sr
Leon, I think it's a great choice for both. The one thing I have to say is that I don't consider it a long range hunting cartridge. It's a great long range target cartridge, perhaps the best when you factor in cost and availability of ammo (during normal times). It's also an outstanding hunting cartridge for medium game like deer. But personally I wouldn't want to reach out past about 225 to 250 yards with it just because of the size of the bullets and velocity. But for most of us we never shoot game that far anyway. So yes I would say it would be great for both.
I have a question I have not tried it. I was told that zero in your rifle in the summer at 90° will give you different results when you’re actually deer hunting at 40°. Is that something you’ve seen or witnessed?
Yes, heat definitely increases the pressure and the velocity of a cartridge and how much depends on the cartridge. But with that said you have to really start getting way way out there to see the effect. But extreme long range target shooters can tell you exactly what velocity they get at a given air temperature for that moment because for them it really does make a difference and I can see the difference on my chronograph when load testing in summer vs winter.
I got a new 30-30 Marlin 336 for Christmas back in 1971 I was 12 at the time. That riffle was very ammunition sensitive it hated Remington ammo and especially didn't like 150 grain bullits. I the only ammo it would shoot was 170 Winchester Super X. Still with sights set as low as possibly could get at 100 yards it would shoot a 1 inch group 1 to 2 inches high of center. But it also had a greater range than normal rifles of that caliber. Over 25 years that I used that same rifle I took a lot of deer between 200 and 300 yards. I was young had excellent eye right and I had put many round through it so I knew how it shot. Plus I been hunting since age 7 so I learned early how to be a marksmen shooting groundhogs with a 22 learning to make head shots. Got pretty good I could consistently hit a groundhogs in head at 100 with my 22 mag I got for my 9th birthday. So yes rifles can be very picky as to what ammo you use and it's not just bullet weight but type of gun powder or even how consistent everything is pressed together can affect accuracy.
i have a rap in 6.5 cm,i shoot 120 grain sierra pro hunter bullets.can cover 5 shot group at 100yrs with a dime .drops deer in their tracks.i hunt i wv most shots are under 200 yrds.
6.5 CM is wonderful deer cartridge within that range. I wouldn't want to start reaching out far past that, but that's not a reflection on the 6.5 CM. I wouldn't want to reach out far past that with any 120 bullet no matter what caliber or cartridge. But I wouldn't think twice about using one like you are.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving i had to have surgery on my shoulder is why i went with the light load.i added a boyds spike camp wooden stock and added a tank no.3 muzzle brake .it kicks about the same as 223,works great for me at 67yrs old with a bad shoulder.
@@dennisburkhammer2676 I can't think of a better reason to avoid heavy recoil! But one thing I've come to realize over the years is that it just doesn't take much to kill a deer. That's why I've been drifting more and more to lighter recoiling cartridges. If I can get a lighter rifle and in a light recoiling cartridge and accomplish the same thing as a heavy recoiling cartridge then why not? And it sounds like you have one nice setup there!
From what I've experienced it seems to be the balance between the weight of the bullet and the caliber.A 300 win mag seems to balance well at the 180 grain weight,a 30-06 the 165,the 308 a 150,270 a 130 to 140,the list goes on.Its like balancing a bait casting rod and reel so you're not fighting birds nests all day.There seems to be a weight for every caliber that outperforms the lighter and heavier weights
The 150 partitions would kill a bull elk at 200 yards with proper shot placement on a broadside shot. However, it wouldn’t be my first choice for longer shots or quartering shots on bull elk. EDIT: I would stay away from the shoulder with the 7x57 on bull elk.
Our deer in the southern U.S. tend to be on the small side so I wouldn't think twice about stretching it out to it's maximum point blank range around 260 yards for a 6" dia.
We don’t need to make a long discussion out of this just get a 270 with 130 grain bullets discussion over oh yeah soft point partition barnesX it don’t matter
... I'm making a list of all the flyer excuses used by the various youtube gun gurus ... "chair sinking into the ground because of rain" ... that's definitely a new one
I have always been partial to 140gr Partitions. In fact, it is the only bullet for 270 that I have used in three decades. I will usually do my load development surrounding that very bullet. It has always put my deer in the dirt. Thank you for this excellent video and God bless you!
140_150 gr depending on the caliber
"chair sinkin" that is a new one - I gotta write that one down....LOL
Could come in handy alright.!
Had Speer Hot core shoot great . 150gr. In Marlin 30-30 perfect mushroom in deer .
This is a great no nonsense video that new shooters should watch. I hate seeing when people review several guns with the same type of factory ammo and proclaim one is more accurate. One rifle may have a faster twist or longer throat. It could also have longer barrel making more velocity. The first range trip should be with 3-4 different bullets in different lengths and grain weights. Let the gun tell you what it likes and dial in from there.
My thought exactly.
I load the 150 and 168 speer gold dot in my 308. I loaded some 165 partition and the 168 accubond long range for family member. Btw there rifle is 30-06 the partition is for deer/elk in remington 7400 in 30-06 semi auto and the accubond is for his 1903 springfield.
The speer and the nosler partition are my favorite bullets
They are tough to beat. The partition is probably the best all around hunting bullet ever made, but the Speer Hotcore is probably the best value especially for lighter large game like deer.
Yes sir
Tom, just found your channel. Excellent. I too am a huge fan of the 7 x 57. Drove me nuts finding a consistent load. I won't post the charge here but I will refer you to Jack O'Connor "the hunting rifle" . His load was for 139 or 140 grain bullets with IMR 4320 and Winchester Brass. Superb sub 0.5 in groups consistently. Good luck shoot straight.
Thanks Joe. The load I came up with using IMR 4350 and the 145gr Speer Hotcore worked ok and I took a decent buck last fall using it but it isn't "the" load. Maybe I'll get a chance to expereiment more this spring? And if so I'll definitely try the IMR 4320. I'll also be really interested in seeing how it compares to Varget since they have almost identical burn rates?
My wife's 6mm loves 80gr rem corlock. It will print a 3 shot clover left.
My ruger 6 likes federal 80gr under a inch
My 700 likes 100gr corlock I can get 5 shots under 1/2 a inch. But its the heavy barrel varmint rifle thats had some work done.
that is great groups with the partition 1 and half to 2 inch groups are the norm , not the most accurate bullet but a great one! good hunting!
How many have loaded a 7x57 with a 160 grain bullet? Any thoughts based on the experience?
Easy question for a pro to answer the 130 grain Remington core loct for all game at all ranges out to 1000 yards after that get a 50 cal
What powder you like for your 7×57 or 7mm08
Daniel, I love H4350 for the 7x57 and my friend Joey has gotten some great velocity and accuracy with H380 in his 7mm-08. And I would have swore I just answered this one? You Tube shows comments I haven't responded to and this one was next on the list so I apologize if I've already answered it for you.
Mine loves 139
The 150 grain Partition at 1" may still be the better hunting round. The Partition gives you a little more edge in the fudge factor area where you may need to take a less than perfectly angled shot.
I have to admit the Partition just might be the best all around hunting bullet ever designed? But with that said, for deer where penetration isn't really an issue, the Speer Hotcore is really hard to beat especially when you factor in the price difference. But for larger game I would probably choose the Partition.
And I don't think I got into this in any of the other videos, but the reason I was trying those 2 bullets in particular is because they have been around for so long that they were actually design to work well with the 7x57. Almost all of the newer bullets have been designed exclusively for the higher velocities of the 7mm's like the 7mag and 280. So it can be challenging finding a 7mm bullet that's soft enough to also work at slower velocities.
You are right. In my experience it’s really hard to beat partitions. Period.
Last year I used a CZ550 in 7x57 with a 150 gr. Nosler Partition. It was the first time for all three, and all went well. I've never used the partition before, and can't say my deer was deader than from a cup-n-core, but certainly no complaints.
I'm really liking your videos. I'm wondering how you think 7mm Mauser compares to 7mm-08? Do you think they are too similar to consider owning a rifle chambered in both? How much more performance can you gain over 7mm-08 with the Mauser? At some point I would like to do reloading, but I am not sure how many different calibers I would want to do it for, given the variety of firearms I have. And not to throw too much at you all at once, but I was wondering how much experience you have with .257 Roberts and 6.5 Creedmore? I have a couple of young ones who will be coming of age in a few years and I wonder what the best caliber might be for them?
I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! As for 7mm-08 vs 7mm Mauser there's almost no difference between them. And since you don't hand load now you would actually loose performance because American ammo manufactures have always under loaded 7x57. They claim its because so many of the early small ring Mauser rifles still out there but I've never believed that. American factory 7x57 isn't even loaded to the pressure of the standard ammo issued with those old Mausers that they're referring to. European 7x57 is loaded to max pressure but that's not exactly easy to get here. If you hand load you can theoretically get slightly better performance than the 7mm-08 because the 7mm Mauser case has ever so slightly more powder capacity but the 2 are so close that you would have to find the absolute perfect load to see the difference and even then it wouldn't be much of a difference. So yes I think the 2 are to close to worry about owning each.
As for reloading, I load for a lot different cartridges and I enjoy it but reloading is its own thing almost completely different than shooting and hunting. It's more about manufacturing really precise things. It's fun when you work up a great load but you need a lot of time to spend on it and it will actually cost you more. But if you have the time and really enjoy learning about every little aspect of a cartridge then you might enjoy it?
And as for the 257 Roberts or the 6.5 Creedmoor for a youngster, that is a tough one! I dearly love the 257 and hunt with one regularly, but I would have to recommend the 6.5C (that really hurt me to say that). The 257 Roberts is a dying cartridge. It's gotten a little boost in popularity over the last decade but it's still slowly dying out. The 6.5C is at the height of it's popularity so there are so many more ammo choices for it along with rifle choices.
I hope some of that helps!
Garth, I completely agree with everything Tom has written to you above. If you don't mind I would like to put my 2 cents in the ring concerning cartridges for young folks. Depending on the area you will be hunting in and the distances one would expect to shoot at on a regular basis, anything from a 30-30 to a 270 would be just about perfect. For young hunters starting out (limited shooting/hunting experience) I would recommend the 7mm-08 over a 257 Roberts or .243 Win just on the size of the wound channel alone. Felt recoil is a huge issue with youngsters also. Flinching is a terrible habit to have and that usually starts with a young hunter shooting too much gun. And the great thing about ammo these days is that several mfgs make "low recoil" ammo which is even better. The 6.5CM is a fine hunting cartridge. I've owned 2 myself and they perform wonderfully on deer and hogs, but whose to say that 10 years from now the 6.5 CM may not be near as popular as it is now and then availability becomes an issue. Forget about the shortage now. That will pass soon enough. If it were me with youngsters just starting out, I would opt for the 7mm-08 and start out on "low recoil" ammo. Good luck.
@@easttexan2933 Thanks for that. This spring I will be teaching my daughter, who is 8, how to shoot with a 22LR. My son will be 6 by then, but I think he will probably need another year before he's big enough for the length of pull on that rifle. So this year I will be focussing of basics of shooting with my just daughter, and safety fundamentals of hunting and shooting with both kids. So far my daughter hasn't expressed the will to hunt, but she definitely wants to learn to shoot. My son on the other hand can't wait to hit the deer woods with me. So depending on how this year goes, within the next year or so I will probably start looking for a rifle better suited for kids hunting whitetails in the midwest. Part of me wants to find a good caliber for all around use including longer ranges (leaning toward 6.5CM for that), and another part of me is considering just picking up a straight walled rifle for mostly myself and the kids too (350 Legend). As they get older, I have several rifles they could potentially use, including a 7mm-08 and a 270Win, but If they are like most of us, they will probably start looking for their own rifle to buy when they reach their upper teenage years. So now that creates an interesting bit of humor with everything I have just said; who am I actually buying a rifle for😄? Yeah, I know...who am I kidding? I just want to buy more guns😂. I would say because my daughter is already very petite even for 8 she would be the more recoil sensitive one. The 7mm-08 is my primary rifle for hunting, and I know the recoil impulse well for 140gr bullets. It's definitely a puppy dog to me when it comes to shooting it, but I could see it knocking around my little girl a bit with her small frame. I don't know, time will tell if she fills out a bit more, but I suspect she is going to always be petite. So I guess that begs the question; do they make low recoil 7mm-08 in something like a 120gr bullet? How much recoil do you suppose that could make?
@@hammerheadms the ammo info you're looking for can be found on the Hornady website. Also, since your daughter is a petite size, may I suggest the .223 or 22-250 to start with. Those are the only two calibers I'm familiar with that have practically no recoil. But that brings into play the ethical part of hunting for such a young person. My best advice to you would be to not rush her into it. Include you son in that decision too. Good luck.
Everyone ask why I shoot 150s instead 130s out my 270 and my answer always was that my rifle is more accurate with 150s. Just the way it is.
Tom great videos sir super informative very knowledgeable and to the point with proven results to show appreciate you sharing ur knowledge Thanks Tom from a Louisiana Hunter man the information you shared about the property that you and your brother hunters shared for over 30 years that ended up being leased out to a group of disrespectful dishonest lazy guys had me boiling being the gentleman that you are you handled it just like the true gentleman and ethical Hunter you are please continue to pass this incredible information That the Good Lord has blessed you to have God bless you and your family and may you have many many more beautiful hunting experiences Kofi Sr
Well thank you very much for that Mr Kofi. Your comments are greatly appreciated.
what are your thoughts on the 6.5 Creedmoor for both hunting and long-distance target shooting? I wanted a low recoil rifle that can do both.
Leon, I think it's a great choice for both. The one thing I have to say is that I don't consider it a long range hunting cartridge. It's a great long range target cartridge, perhaps the best when you factor in cost and availability of ammo (during normal times). It's also an outstanding hunting cartridge for medium game like deer. But personally I wouldn't want to reach out past about 225 to 250 yards with it just because of the size of the bullets and velocity. But for most of us we never shoot game that far anyway. So yes I would say it would be great for both.
My brothers 20 inch ar10 loves the 130 swift sirrocco. We only use it for 140 and in just because in timber we barely have much farther
I have a question I have not tried it. I was told that zero in your rifle in the summer at 90° will give you different results when you’re actually deer hunting at 40°. Is that something you’ve seen or witnessed?
Yes, heat definitely increases the pressure and the velocity of a cartridge and how much depends on the cartridge. But with that said you have to really start getting way way out there to see the effect. But extreme long range target shooters can tell you exactly what velocity they get at a given air temperature for that moment because for them it really does make a difference and I can see the difference on my chronograph when load testing in summer vs winter.
I got a new 30-30 Marlin 336 for Christmas back in 1971 I was 12 at the time. That riffle was very ammunition sensitive it hated Remington ammo and especially didn't like 150 grain bullits. I the only ammo it would shoot was 170 Winchester Super X. Still with sights set as low as possibly could get at 100 yards it would shoot a 1 inch group 1 to 2 inches high of center. But it also had a greater range than normal rifles of that caliber. Over 25 years that I used that same rifle I took a lot of deer between 200 and 300 yards. I was young had excellent eye right and I had put many round through it so I knew how it shot. Plus I been hunting since age 7 so I learned early how to be a marksmen shooting groundhogs with a 22 learning to make head shots. Got pretty good I could consistently hit a groundhogs in head at 100 with my 22 mag I got for my 9th birthday. So yes rifles can be very picky as to what ammo you use and it's not just bullet weight but type of gun powder or even how consistent everything is pressed together can affect accuracy.
Great video as usual!
Thanks Billy
i have a rap in 6.5 cm,i shoot 120 grain sierra pro hunter bullets.can cover 5 shot group at 100yrs with a dime .drops deer in their tracks.i hunt i wv most shots are under 200 yrds.
6.5 CM is wonderful deer cartridge within that range. I wouldn't want to start reaching out far past that, but that's not a reflection on the 6.5 CM. I wouldn't want to reach out far past that with any 120 bullet no matter what caliber or cartridge. But I wouldn't think twice about using one like you are.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving i had to have surgery on my shoulder is why i went with the light load.i added a boyds spike camp wooden stock and added a tank no.3 muzzle brake .it kicks about the same as 223,works great for me at 67yrs old with a bad shoulder.
@@dennisburkhammer2676 I can't think of a better reason to avoid heavy recoil! But one thing I've come to realize over the years is that it just doesn't take much to kill a deer. That's why I've been drifting more and more to lighter recoiling cartridges. If I can get a lighter rifle and in a light recoiling cartridge and accomplish the same thing as a heavy recoiling cartridge then why not? And it sounds like you have one nice setup there!
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving if you have an email ill send you a picture of the rifle
From what I've experienced it seems to be the balance between the weight of the bullet and the caliber.A 300 win mag seems to balance well at the 180 grain weight,a 30-06 the 165,the 308 a 150,270 a 130 to 140,the list goes on.Its like balancing a bait casting rod and reel so you're not fighting birds nests all day.There seems to be a weight for every caliber that outperforms the lighter and heavier weights
The gun always tells you what to shoot in it
I try to use the heaviest bullet I can get in my .416 Rigby. Not.
150
A deer won't care what bullet weight your using
Plenty. Good enough. Out to. 200 yards. On deer
The 150 partitions would kill a bull elk at 200 yards with proper shot placement on a broadside shot. However, it wouldn’t be my first choice for longer shots or quartering shots on bull elk.
EDIT: I would stay away from the shoulder with the 7x57 on bull elk.
Our deer in the southern U.S. tend to be on the small side so I wouldn't think twice about stretching it out to it's maximum point blank range around 260 yards for a 6" dia.
Those Partitions are something!
We don’t need to make a long discussion out of this just get a 270 with 130 grain bullets discussion over oh yeah soft point partition barnesX it don’t matter