Jaguar F-Type R Should You Buy An AWD Or RWD
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2020
- We look at the Raw performance of the only year you can experience RWD in a v8 coupe F-type and compare the driving and differences and overall car differences between the newer AWD models. The model in particular is in Italian racing red and is a 2017 model year. There is even a small roll race with the new C8 corvette in this video. Enjoy the countless exhaust comparisons, launch and rolls checking the performance and driving character differences in these amazing machines.
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Which one fits your personality?
Both “ Excellent Video
The 2021 change is not good “
Is the v6 version worth it? Or wait to have enough for the v8? V8 is running used around 45-50k low miles and v6 used is going for 30-35k
If you don't experience the V8 the V6 would be great!
@@PerformanceOnWheels haha awesome response bro i feel you
Good to see you guys still making content, I enjoyed this Vid as a 2015 Type R owner I LOVE my car, had high horsepower cars all my life and did not want AWD, this car fit me. but good to see the comparisons from a person who understands both, not trying to sale something.. Keep up the good work guys.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thats how we try to base all of our videos is off stright facts. Not just on F-Types but all vehicles. Thanks for the support!
2016 R AWD all day long. Getting mine tomorrow!
Awesome! I am back in one as well. Check out mine in our recent video!
Nice video guys, you explained the differences really well. I got the RWD R and love the playfulness of it. What a machine oh, and the noise....
I'm glad you enjoyed it Adam thanks for taking the time to comment! Sound doesn't get much better than that!
Driving the RWD is like having a Devil on one shoulder urging you to wrap it round a lampost whilst the Angel on the other shoulder insists you flip it into snow mode and plays a V8 trumpet.
😈🎺🎺
Great comparison guys!
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Great video 👍🏽👍🏽
Excellent video guys! I love the F type and I just sold my 2018 RS5 in order to buy an SVR in 2023
You will love it!!
Thanks for the info and fun
Thanks for tagging along!
You guys got a good thing going here. Great personalities and valuable talking points. With some refinement of your camera systems and more organized presentation I think you guys are going to have a valuable come up!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and share that. All feedback is welcome!
Thanks guys..,was leaning 16+, but this has solidified my way forward. BTW, might be interesting to track values on these; since I started shopping, used F Type values have moved upwards over last few months.
I've always thought if they where to go back up in value it would be the R Rwd Coupes. It is what is thought to be pretty low production numbers.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Agreed and I got mine at the bottom with 17K miles. win win..
Good video guys.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Great work.
Glad you enjoyed it
Good unbiased review, I have the 2017 AWD and being in Canada need the AWD and love the off the line punch. Either way it’s a stunning car.
It sure is!
Great video, subbed! love seeing the F type comparisons. Would you say the RWD feels faster on the rolling race or does it feel the same, pull wise? Also do you know the 0-60 time differences between the 2? Does the RWD do it in 3.9 and the AWD do it in 3.7s?
I think the RWD all around feels more aggressive. When I was playing around awhile back, got the tires hot enough I got the RWD to launch with no spin. The app I was using claimed a 3.4 when this happened. Other then that I was getting consistent 4.2 to 60. I would imagine you would see pretty consistent 3.5-3.7 with the AWD. Thank you for watching!!
AWD gives you confidence everytime you want to floor it. Confidence is important.
I agree.... There is something to be said about confidence. Sometimes you just need to dance, once you get used to the RWD I have no lack of confidence in how that car handles.....both great choices.
Its all tires.
Sandy no
@@135iN55 lol no.
@@jhouser972
It is. P-Zeros spin with no grip at 1/8th inch throttle. Cup 2s don't spin until 1/4 inch throttle.
Bought a 2018 R Dynamic V6, very impressed
"Hey there! I stumbled upon your video again today, even though I'm way behind. So, I finally got my hands on a 2014 F-Type R! Super excited, but there's a snag: it went to the dealer, and despite my plea not to update it, it doesn’t feel the same as the one I remembered from childhood. Wondering if you experts know which software version silences the car? Are all the ones starting with '4' loud? Thinking of sending you my version to check. Will do that tomorrow. Thanks in advance!" help!
I love my R awd convertible
Make sure you check back in a week or two to check out the new ride. You will like it. 👍
Good comparison, owner of a 16 R here. The is no way the 15 can beat a 16+ on performance but it is definitely more fun will less traction. But the 15 also could be potentially dangerous if someone that doesn't know how to drive well or in rain. The 18-20 featured a full LED lights and bumper which differed from the original Ian Callum design, the 21 update is just straight forward ugly, didn't like either update so the best IMO is the 16 and 17
Thanks for commenting. I did have one time where the RWD had the tires hot enough that I had zero spin at launch. Obviously I will go through tires every week if I keep that up. But it sure was fun. I totally agree that the RWD needs to be respected. The traction control does a fantastic job of keeping you in line. You still need to know the right times to get on power so that can assist you. We did do a side by side comparison with the new model. Subscribe and check out that video. For whatever reason I see the new one looks decent in dark/bolder colors.....
Performance On Wheels seen a white 21 MY p380, just looks bad in that front. It’s trying to do that AMG vantage thing( even though that was a ridiculously ugly front end, I’m also a owner of multiple last gen real AM) so I consider it a big fuck up for Jag for going that route
You are right Char, the 15 requires an aware driver, not just point and push the petal to the floor.. but an experienced driver can get ALL of what she has to offer safely in good conditions.
Thats why you leave traction on.
I sawxa stock 400 hp V6 supercharged beat a R the other day. Both awd. The V8 heat soaks way more and thus tbe power drops off to near 500 if stock is 550 hp in models upto 2018 I believe.
Liked. Now to watch the video 😊
You're the best!
Great video, guys, as expected. When I was in the market for my R, I was conflicted between purchasing a '15 vs. the' 16. The consensus of what I'd read online was that the RWD was a raw, "pure" sportscar but it was difficult to keep the thing in a straight line. By contrast, the '16+ models were better suited for the track and launching off the line, at the expense of extra weight. I eventually decided on the ' 15R and found that the rumors of the car being unmanageable were mostly unfounded (provided you know your limits). My R is a hoot to drive. The only thing I would add to someone on the fence is that your geographic location needs to be taken into consideration. I bought the car when I lived in sunny Florida. Now that I've relocated to the Midwest, the car is essentially unusable in the winter months, whereas I could've lasted the winters with the AWD setup. Zero regrets, and for the money, I wouldn't swap for anything, including the C8 (sacrilege, I know). For the simple reason that Chevy is going to be selling those C8s like hotcakes. Soon, they'll be just as commonplace as your everyday Camaro or Mustang, and there's just something more compelling & exotic to me about the R. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
I totally agree. I was expecting the rwd to be a death trap based on comments and reviewers take on it. I don't think that way at all. I agree....a hoot. Thanks for sharing your opinion and watching!!
At 9:58 Wow dude! That red All wheel drive F type R coupe flying from rhe 1st gear and up. Just only #InstinctiveAllWheelDriveFromJaguar
I told you I subscribed! I’m going AWD! Performance baby!
Heck yeah
I have a 2015 V8S which is convertible and RWD. With all the talking and people buying these cars, the desirable of the RWD and the actual noise that has not been changed is becoming more wanted and searched for. Have the rear slip on a RWD is so much fun.
RWD for more experienced drivers and if you really wanna have some fun oversteering. AWD can't match punching out of corners ;) although it is a disappointment when the tires don't hook at a dead stop. I also did a comparison of sound with my 2015 to a friends 2018 model and my backfire is definitely louder than the newer models. I also never had the update done which when I spoke to my jaguar tech about it the update will reduce the sound produced.
Good comment. Thanks for sharing.
ngl I want one in the near future but only thing is I’m in NY so I know ima get pulled over constantly cuz it’s so loud 😭 wish you could make it quieter (feel like the button to do that doesn’t do much)
Ty
I have a 2017 V6 (340) RWD coming in two days. Do you think the stiffer ride in the '15 was related to RWD vs AWD, or just refinents from '15 to '17 model years?
I think it is primarily the hydraulic vs electric steering. I do not believe there are any changes with suspension set-up.
The exhaust comparison was very hard to follow. At the end of the test I thought all that was for the white car I couldn't hear the red car, Maybe don't do them at the same time. At least on my laptop, I couldn't hear the red one. I didn't know it was running. Good video
I agree with your comment. Room for improvement in that clip.
I went from the Ferrari twin turbo California T to the F Type R series AWD and I like the Jag better. The sound was better and I drove the Jag all winter in Michigan with zero problems.
That should be a reassuring comment for anyone in the market for a Jag. ❤️ That you are rocking it all year.
Performance On Wheels I get 4 car magazines which has helped me develop the very expensive habit of buying whatever is the latest and greatest. I have the a new C8 convertible on order now but I have never had a car that I enjoyed more than the R series Jag. In the winter it handled the snow as good as any SUV.
Sounds like you should watch our c8 videos😏
Huge down grade.
A RWD V8 weighes 70lbs less than an AWD V6.
200 lb lighter than a AWD V8 too !
At least Austin (the younger dude) says jaguar correctly lol
Finally able to afford the F type R v8 but I don't know much about RWD and AWD
RWD seems more fun from what I saw in the video, but I want to drive the car during the winter as well, and was wondering if it would be a big enough inconvenience, and to rather option for the AWD?
If you want to drive the car in the winter RWD I personally would not consider in an F-Type. Even if you put snow tires on it, my opinion would be to wide of tire and to much torque. Do AWD if you live someone that gets any sort of decent/regular snowfall.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Comment got a little confusing, you would not recommended the f type at all for winter drive or just the f type AWD if I was to drive it in the winter?
@@GrimYT lots of people rock the FType AWD in snow. I think it would be a hoot, I would still get winter tires. The RWD I think would be a frustrating experience in snow.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Thanks, this is making the decision a lot easier for me. Appreciate the quick response
The awd will beat you to about 70 but in rolls and above 70, the rwd will run away due to a lot less weight. Now if your like me whoch less than 10% are, with rwd I warm the tires good and can beat awd off the line.
I doubt that man.
the all-wheel drive didn't keep their RPMs up on the roll. That's the thing about the all-wheel drive. keep the RPMs between 4-4500 on a roll.
Is the old steering (hydraulic) or the new (eletric) better now, I did not get it?
Hydraulic always.
Can you do an interstate race between the two With better rolls? Still deciding on which I’m going with
I like the way you think!! I am pretty confident white will win. I almost always pull on him when we are out and about.
Buying an F-Type this week. So I have two options. What do you guys recommend? I can get a brand new 2023 P450 RWD for $80k or I can get a slightly used 2021 R (top of the line with 575HP) AWD with 10k miles on it for $78k. This will be my daily driver but I barely drive as I work remotely. Both are white color with black gloss wheels and black interior. However, the used R has a nicer interior with white stitching, a better looking rear diffuser, and has the side rocker panels. Which should I go with?
R without a doubt.
There are two different type of leather. The two tone in the RWD is the standard leather type. The all black is exclusive leather. I guess that the softer leather feels makes the seat feel softer.
Thank you for sharing that. It definitely felt more exclusive 😁. It all makes sense.
Is what your talking about different from the extended leather package?
@@PerformanceOnWheels yes I believe that the extended leather package always are the exclusive leather. Im trying to look through my old F-Type brochures to see if I'm right ;-)
Awesome, let us know!
You guys need to rehearse more. Still subscribed though, channel content seems interesting.
Everyday is an opportunity to improve.
I'm not a super experienced driver and the most powerful car ive driven is a ND Miata. Would I be way out of my depth getting a RWD R over an AWD? Love the styling but it would be a big jump! I'm in a warm and sunny place so concerned less about snow and more about inability to control it!
You will be fine just do it! Leave traction control on. Rwd feels more like a driver's car. Will be a better feeling car coming out of the miata
Drag Race is at 9:39
yw
Thanks
No no fixing that’s what makes the car special.
In my country I got the 2016 update with RWD .. thanks God
I really like the character of the RWD. Where you from?
RWD for the win! Great video!
Thanks for taking the time to comment Tony, glad you liked it! Hope your loving your new whip as well!!
I get rwd cars for the edginess, so I have a superb 2015 R
Nice bud I would like the awd but with the old school steering I thing that would be amazing also wish you could switch between awd and rwd that would just be the perfect car ;)
I was thinking the same thing! If they offered front axle disconnect like a E63 AMG.... 😏
@@PerformanceOnWheels Great channel, local guy with a 2017 F-type with many mods. We should talk.
@@jasondejoy4994 would love to!
Shoot us an email. Performanceonwheels111@gmail.com
@@PerformanceOnWheels PM me
Great video guys. I agree about hydraulic steering steering giving you more road feel than electronic. To me that gives you guys Type R the edge in my book. Off the line the AWD will take it. In motion your R takes it. Lastly yes your R is louder. 🤫 Don't get firmware update.
The R is a vehicle prior to your channel I knew little about. Now seeing your vehicle reviews it's a vehicle I'd consider. That thing is a Beast. Thanks guys for all you bring to the channel.
Well Alex... videos coming soon about how ours may be for sale... if your interested...
Performance On Wheels Whaaat!! What are getting next? Can’t wait for that video.
@@AlexBAlixir98 might be the next one😳
Performance On Wheels That would be awesome. The Supra has a history and it’s good to see it back. Albeit with BMW guts. However whatever you guys bring, I know it will be good.
@@AlexBAlixir98 Time will tell
Do you guys think that the AWD is lacking in the rolling race because of the extra weight of the AWD system?
My assumption would be that.
A little bit, larger contribution are the extra driven differentials for the front wheels that eat power.
Silberpfeil yes, but they normally don’t give any power at this range of speeds, you mean only the turning/spinning friction?
mitsos kitsos yes I mean driving/turning/spinning the extra diffs cost power so less of that 550hp end up on the road
Silberpfeil interesting if you find an SVR for a drag race to see how much difference the 25 horses can make! :)
How does the awd handle in wet conditions
Heavily tire dependant question.
Okay
With Toyo R888Rs, RWD is the better, faster car.
What are your thoughts on Michelin Pro Sport 4
The R888 is pretty much a flawless performance tire in dry warm temps. It would not be a first choice for more of a daily driver. The p zeros are solid tire. They have been around for a very long time. The 4s is the latest and greatest and viewed as the perfect all around performance tire.
So where do you go to buy a used car like this that hasn't been rode hard and put up wet, and not get hosed on pricing?
More challenging today than a year ago for sure. Filters, notifications know the market.
How can the weight be so similar? AWD for me then!
The roll race.... now I’m second guessing
Keep us in the loop!
awd had passenger
We had the same results without a passenger on many occasions
awd over rwd each and every time. rwd especially with 500horses!!!! id some bs waiting to happen
Got my '16 AWD R a little over a year ago. Coming from my '00 Trans Am it was quite the transition. I've driven w/ my LS1 powered RWD stick / clutch for a couple decades. Honestly, if you want a "fun" RWD experience get something with a V8 & stick and clutch rather than an auto (esp. w/ no launch control) for a helluva lot less $$$. You're closer to the metal and can break the rear tires loose on command if that's what you really want. I've got both in my garage and each serves their purpose. The refinement and sure-footedness of AWD is undeniable; you point it and it goes.
AWD for sure 🥰😍
When he started up that 17’, it didn’t have the same BARK. That the 2015 model has, probably has that software upgrade. That makes the exhaust a tad quieter. 🙌🏽💯😱🤣🤣🤣
Only idiots would care about the fastest lap time in a car like this. This is a GT car that you cruise around in and kick it out now and again just to hear mellifluous sound.
Its all about a good time😌
I hope none of you own tbe V8 in CA. Their 95 decible law is being enforced a lot. Theyre telling dealers not sell vehicles in CA with exhaust soubd mode changes even if its built in and if it is, cop os telling people to take car back to dealer and remove the sport mode exhaust or swap quiet mufflers. Expensive. If there is any slight pop or burble from exhaust even if its 90 DB, you'll still get cited because "pops, bangs,burbles" are not normal for an exhaust as a state ref explained. And honestly it isnt normal, its tuned in to exhaust by the manufactures or after market. Poor kid got nailed in his brand new Hyundai Elantra N. It has a pops and bangs exhaust in sport mode. The cop told him he must go get sport mode removed from the vehicle. Car literally had 22 miles on it.
Well boys, I've watched this video 4 times now and I feel no closer to a decision. My choices have come down to a 2015 R RWD or a 2017 R AWD. There's about a 4k mile difference on mileage but the 2017 still will have some of the factory warranty because of being 2 years newer. The price difference is roughly 15K. I'm not a big fan of the color of both. The 2015 is pretty much identical to yours with white exterior and 2 tone red/jet seats. The 2017 is black. With black interior. No offense to your white, but I just see too many of them and would like a bit more unique. Same for the black. Therefore I think I'd wrap whichever one I get for a more unique color plus the wrap offers protection. Also, I can black out the car in certain areas. Anyway, that has nothing to do with my decision. But, I've laid out the differences between the two. Is a 15k price difference worth 2 more years newer and the warranty? Not really sure. But my kease is up on my current vehicle. I need to decide very soon. 😳
Maybe watch just one more time 😉. Me personally? I would save 15k and go with the RWD all day. I think it is more fun, but AWD owners may say the same thing. You can do some fun mods, bank roll some repairs and enjoy the car for 15k.... That my two cents.
@@PerformanceOnWheels just arrived to the RWD dealership. Thanks for your 2 cents. It's pretty much in line with my thoughts. The money saved can be used for some upgrades I'd like such as the rims as well as a wrap. I'll keep you posted.
Awesome!
I have a 2016 AWD R. No risk of losing traction and it gives me confidence to floor it anytime I want to. If you want a car that slides then the RWD is the way to go but I didn't want that.
How is the car? Im in the market and plan on getting one at the beginning of the new year.
Two drive axles = double the WHP loss and +200 lbs weight. Plus loses a crital tool to turn the car.
This is accurate
At the 9:59 All wheel drive F-Type R Coupe with Instinctive all wheel drive wins.😊😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yeah... no... it doesn't the rwd has won from a roll on many many occasions
@@PerformanceOnWheels Oh ok friends. I wanna prefer that red one with All wheel drive for sure.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍
My friens amd my parents (Mom and Dad) asking me about why i love All wheel drive cars? Because All wheel drive cars is safest on all weather conditions. I know All wheel drive F-Type R couoé with v8 engine 8 speed transmision with Instinctive All Wheel drive gives more maximum stabitily, traction, control and performance on any weather conditions as well. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
The faster it gets the worse it gets for the rwd off the line lol
From the sounds your Son makes on take off. The 2015 FType R is the way to GO.
My son and I both like the '15 for more of a drivers experience car. Prefer it over the electric steering and AWD. AWD would be great for daily driving, more casual cruising but still a complete monster.
i want a AWD because it will be easier to drive but they are like 8k more
Not worth it IMO
@@PerformanceOnWheels can a RWD noobie be able to drive it easily?
As long as you leave traction control on you will be just fine. Just don't floor it at full wheel lock
@@PerformanceOnWheels gotcha
Jag made it awd for a reason lol
To take the fun out of it🙄
V6S RWD is where it’s at. Everyone knows it’s quicker than the V8 in real world driving, plus it arguably sounds better too.
Oh boy. Sounds like fighting words. I would like to drive one.
You must own the V6 and are upset you didn't go with the V8. If you honestly think that the V6 is quicker than the V8 in any driving scenario you are just in denial and regret not getting the V8. "Everyone knows" that you mention are the people who have V6s who wish they got the V8. The V8 will always be quicker in every single driving scenario PERIOD.
@@joey1-7 on a greasy, wet, slippery road in the UK in October, the V6 is quicker than the V8 as long as both are RWD. There are situations where a car with better balance, and less power is quicker than one with a heavier nose and too much power for the rear wheels to cope with. Outright power isn’t everything. At the end of the day roads have speed limits, hence why I said “in real world driving”. I’m not talking about race tracks, because most F Type owners don’t track their cars.
@@gpzfan5272 that went real quick from “real world driving” to “this very specific scenario” lol.
In the vast majority of driving, the V8 will be far quicker. The V6 cars have their pluses, and they aren’t small, but speed is in the hands of the V8 F Types.
The GS IS A VERY GOOD CAR
Drove the RWD V6 version in snow, was fun. however, if you want a car that is safer and easier to control in the winter, get the AWD one. Both amazing
thank you Cpt Obvious
LMAO @ good save. You saw that, huh? I think I need more seat time on the track. Just saying...
BIR... tomorrow $25... just sayin
Rwd everything is much more reliable too.
2017😂 🎉
Roll on rwd will win