As the strongest liveform, Borugoat Fought the fraud, Goku He began to form his Rasengan Goku shrunk back in fear then Boruto said: "Stand Proud Goku, You are strong."
As the strongest anime character, madoka, fought the fodder, Goku, she began to open her domain, Goku shrunk back in fear and then madoka said “stand proud, you’re strong”
@@fade5609Bruh, at the very least Saitama can defeat him. And if what we've been shown about Daemon in Boruto, he could beat Goku cuz his power is that he can reflect any attack the opponent does on him.
it can be fun if u do as well u just have to know where to draw the line. The problem is most people dont actually understand powerscaling so it just leads to a cesspool of coming up with ways to one up another. After all when u break it down, powerscaling just having discussions about an aspect of series which everyone loves to do. Now cross verse is where it gets especially bad and made even worse by no one knowing what they are talking about but regardless we should just enjoy it as another element to storytelling I feel like people forget that power scaling is just at the end of the day, people do it cuz it's fun and love discussing their series just like anyone else does. When it gets too serious it can be toxic af cuz I will say powerscaling is a topic that can get more heated than a general discussion about fiction since it's more about finding a definitive answer so everyone tries to be correct while say discussing the better genre or characters is finding an objective answer through subjectivity so it's all about preference. We shouldn't dismiss it completely however, as it can help form better understandings of series. I think we all agree we want good writing and powerscaling is part of that especially so for shonen or action series. Good power scaling can lead to a more consistent feeling which can help better serve the narrative. . Ofc You shouldnt prioritize it all the time and sometimes for the narrative's sake breaking the curve is necessary but i think we can have actual discussions about power scaling without going too far. It's kinda weird to me seeing people try to have a moral or preliminary highground by saying "powerscaling pfff thats childish or dumb" but then turn around and immediately try to pretend their beloved series is somehow better than another. My guess is it stems from what i said about superiority or a lack of understanding of how powerscaling works. This leads to defunct discussions that aren't even powerscaling anymore with people constantly just saying stuff that sounds right to them. We just need to learn when to speak or not (this goes for a lot of things lol) and not try to one up each other rather give each other reasons to believe in our stances
Tho I agree powerscaling is at its best when it's a video like this where we just go "yes or no" with minor thought cuz it becomes more so a marathon rather than "this character is stronger than this one and you're wrong!"
I think taking it semi seriously is fun like putting in the research to see who would win but people be getting but hurt about stuff which is where i think it starts to get unfun
@@Christian-rv4cy more text ≠ somehow taking it too serious. The fact that was ur reply to it all just proved my point of people not wanting to have actual discussions and pretending to have the moral high ground. You're not better somehow for not participating or saying it's dumb
I just asked ChatGPT to write such a list and got this: It's important to note that the power scaling in anime can be subjective, and debates about who can defeat Goku are common among fans. Goku, from the "Dragon Ball" series, is known for his incredible strength and abilities. However, for the sake of imagination, here are 10 anime characters who, in various scenarios or interpretations, could potentially defeat Goku: Saitama (One Punch Man): Why: Saitama is known for defeating any opponent with a single punch. While Goku has incredible power, Saitama's strength is portrayed as limitless and unbeatable. Giorno Giovanna (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind): Why: Giorno possesses the Stand named Gold Experience Requiem, which has the ability to nullify any action or attack. This could potentially counter Goku's powerful moves. Alucard (Hellsing Ultimate): Why: Alucard is an immensely powerful vampire with regenerative abilities and control over countless familiars. His supernatural abilities could pose a threat to Goku. Kaguya Ōtsutsuki (Naruto Shippuden): Why: Kaguya possesses reality-warping abilities and immense chakra. Her powers, especially in the manga, could potentially surpass Goku's strength. Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica): Why: Madoka, as a concept, has the power to rewrite the laws of the universe. In her ultimate form, she might have the ability to reshape reality, potentially overcoming Goku. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord): Why: Ainz is an undead overlord with powerful magic and abilities. His diverse set of spells and strategic thinking might give him an edge against Goku. Accelerator (Toaru Majutsu no Index): Why: Accelerator can manipulate vectors, making him nearly invulnerable. His ability to control any force, including attacks from Goku, could make him a formidable opponent. Meliodas (The Seven Deadly Sins): Why: Meliodas, especially in his Assault Mode, has incredible strength and demonic powers. His ability to negate magical attacks might give him an advantage against Goku. Mob (Mob Psycho 100): Why: Mob possesses overwhelming psychic abilities that grow stronger with his emotions. If he were to fully unleash his powers, he might be able to match or surpass Goku. Lelouch vi Britannia (Code Geass): Why: Lelouch's Geass power allows him to command anyone to follow his orders without question. While Goku's power is physical, Lelouch's strategic mind could potentially find a way to outsmart him. Remember, the power levels and abilities of these characters are highly dependent on interpretation, and the outcome of hypothetical battles can vary based on individual opinions and the context of the story. Honestly a better list than this.
With asking some redos to chatGPT I got this list. Wayyyyy better than screenrant at least: 1. Saitama (One Punch Man) - Defeats opponents with a single punch, showcasing unmatched strength. 2. Alucard (Hellsing) - A powerful vampire with immense regenerative abilities and control over shadows. 3. Giorno Giovanna (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) - Possesses a Stand with the ability to manipulate life and reality. 4. Aizen Sosuke (Bleach) - A master manipulator with powerful illusions and immense spiritual energy. 5. Accelerator (Toaru Majutsu no Index) - Controls vectors, making him nearly invincible with immense offensive and defensive capabilities. 6. Rimuru Tempest (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) - Gains powerful abilities and can absorb and mimic others' powers. 7. Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica) - A magical girl with reality-warping powers on a cosmic scale. 8. Sosuke Aizen (Bleach) - With the Hogyoku, Aizen achieves a transcendent form, enhancing his power further. 9. Lain Iwakura (Serial Experiments Lain) - An omnipotent being with control over the Wired and reality manipulation. 10. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord) - An undead overlord with powerful magic and reality manipulation.
@@ElvisB. I simply told ChatGPT "List 10 anime characters that can beat Goku" and it returns: "1. Saitama (One Punch Man): Known as "One Punch Man," Saitama can defeat any opponent with a single punch. The catch is that this is played for humor, and the true extent of his power is intentionally left vague. 2. Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica): In her ultimate form, Madoka possesses reality-warping powers that could potentially challenge Goku. 3. Alucard (Hellsing): The powerful vampire Alucard has a vast array of abilities, including superhuman strength, regeneration, and control over familiars. 4. Kaguya Ōtsutsuki (Naruto): As a character from the "Naruto" series, Kaguya possesses god-like powers, including control over chakra and the ability to manipulate dimensions. 5. Guts (Berserk): While Guts may seem like an unconventional choice, he is an incredibly skilled and determined warrior, wielding the massive Dragonslayer sword. 6. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord): Ainz is an immensely powerful and intelligent undead Overlord with an array of potent spells and abilities. 7. Rimuru Tempest (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime): Rimuru, a slime that gains incredible powers after reincarnation, has the ability to absorb and mimic the abilities of other creatures. 8. Giorno Giovanna (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind): With the power of Gold Experience Requiem, Giorno can manipulate causality and nullify any action taken against him. 9. Accelerator (A Certain Magical Index): Accelerator possesses the ability to manipulate vectors, making him nearly invincible and a formidable opponent. 10. Lelouch vi Britannia (Code Geass): While not a physical powerhouse, Lelouch possesses the Geass, a power that allows him to command anyone to follow his orders, potentially giving him a strategic advantage."
I agree with Stan Lee's take on powerscaling, except for one thing : Suspension of Disbelief. Squirrel Girl can beat Doctor Doom and THANOS because she's a comedic character and the whole idea of her beating them is hilarious enough to maintain the suspension of disbelief that a squirrel-controlling mutant can clap a universal threat. In the same vein, King from OPM can beat anyone because the enemy's own fear of his reputation is what does them in. But in a series with a more serious tone and with non-comedic characters, there is a limit to how much the author can stretch the outcome of a battle. Tony Stark can beat the Hulk in one of his armors, but not out of it. He can maybe talk down the Hulk or turn him back into Banner, but beating him in a straightforward battle would have everyone mocking the author's hard-on for Iron Man for all of eternity.
If I remember right Hei’s power is actually matter manipulation he just only knows how to use electric shocks since it’s his sisters power and he has no idea what he’s doing. I think the green haired girl helped him use the power once at the end of season 1 and then it’s just never brought up again. Still doubt he could take Goku with that though
Was going to say this since Hei is able to manipulate matter at a quantum level at the end of S1 to stop some weapon (it's been at least a decade since I watched this)
From what I remember he uses it at the end of s2 after learning how to use it in s1 so he knows how to use it, i don’t remember why he doesn’t use it more during the season before losing his powers tho
Definitive list of people who can crush Goku 10) Saitama 9) Jacked spongebob 8) Chichi 7) An angry Nami 6) Stupid Sexy Flanders 5) Cory from Cory in the House (he looks like he knows BJJ) 4) Down D Stairs 3) Angry Arthur meme 2) Doujin Artists 1) Ultra Instinct Shaggy
In my opinion. If you want to do a fight to powerscale Goku. You have to ask yourself one single thing "If Goku destroys the planet, will they survive" because most of those dont cut the chase.
For the question regarding Hei, yes at the very end of Season 1 he gains the power to manipulate things on a quantum level by managing electrons. Spoilers for those who haven't watched: Hei's ability was never "electricity," rather it was never his power to begin with. It was his sister Pai's power, which is control over *electrons*, not just electricity. Hei unknowingly absorbed Pai into himself during the incident in South America (this is why Hei doesn't have a "price" for his "contract," since Pai paid for it with her "death"), Amber reveals this to him before she turns back time one last time and dies for him. Though unlike Pai, Hei's power wasn't mastered or taken anywhere since like everyone said, Hei loses his powers in the second season. Not saying he can beat Goku with it but he did have that power at one point lol. Glad Garnt brought up Accelerator.. Do I think he can win? Nope, he's lost to less, but it's an interesting thought, especially since recently that mofo learned how to use magic too lol
59:20 Goku uses a technique which brings him back to life while he was challenging Hit to assassinate him. As long as Goku knows that he is being targeted by Light, he can just rely on his instincts to instantaneously use that revival chi ball technique on him when he gets a heart attack. Also, as long as he knows how Lelouch's geass works, he can just fight and win blind-folded; he only loses if their eye contacts meet.
doesn't really help against Light. The Death Note can do more than heart attacks, it can fully control a persons very actions that lead up to their death. Such as making them carve a message onto a wall. Or even riding a bus then firing shots. The person doesn't even realize they're under control, they think they just chose to do said actions on their own. Even accidents can be planned out by Light.
@@5h0ckblock But what physical thing can kill Goku though? Anything which is not capable of killing Goku gets translated to heart attacks. At this point, I don't even know if Goku can commit suicide 😂 That's certainly an intriguing thought ig.
@@kairostimeYT It's only automatically a heart attack if you write something that's a physical impossibility. One thing to remember is that Goku's durability(or any DB character for that matter) is dependent on his energy. When in a relaxed state things that usually wouldn't hurt him can hurt him. Think back to when he was fighting Frieza and got shot by an alien blaster, while in Super Saiyan Blue. Or the cell Saga when Krillin chucked a rock at him. These are instances where Goku is so relaxed that he takes damage he shouldn't have. The same applies if he's exhausted from a large scale battle. All Light needs is to write a series of events that would cause Goku's energy to deplete enough that something can kill him, or have Goku lower his guard. Possibly even both if he's creative enough. What's interesting about this is that we the audience saw Goku train to complete exhaustion before in Super Hero. He could barely move by the end. Light can also control multiple people at once. So for instance "Goku decides to have a sparring match with one of his friends. During the battle, Goku wastes a bunch of energy on large scale beams, all of which the friend avoids. Then, while Goku is exhausted, he is unable to dodge an oncoming strike to the neck, which accidentally ruptures an artery." As for Goku committing suicide, that's fairly easy. He could just use a distructo disk and slice his own body. Or fly to space, exposing himself to it's vacuum. Even holding his breath until suffocation could do it. Also, Light could always just write that Goku chooses to ignore his own heart attack, thinking it was nothing. Making it so he doesn't do the revival technique he used with Hit.
@@5h0ckblockBro the deathnote can only work on humans its the primary rule of its functioning and gokus not even human. Hes an aliean so I dunno what is deathnote gonna do to him
That article is literally rage farming for engagement. To be honest, it does seem like an AI article. There is a point that I think is being missed, which is that this is more about the narrative idea of concepts, rather than having the measurable power to beat Goku. Garnt sort of understands this once he sees Saitama, which is that his power is not measurable, because Saitama isn't a defined superhero as much as he's the concept of surpassing your obstacles and having no challenges left (meanwhile Genos only exists to serve as an example of how much more powerful others are). Meanwhile Goku is all about attitude, about picking yourself up after losing. Goku would lose. And then he'd stand back up again. And then he'd lose, ad infinitum. Conceptually he'd probably never win. Let me put it another way... Golden Kamuy's "Immortal Sugimoto" can't beat Goku, but he'll never lose to him, because his conceptual power is being an "unconventional survivor" who fights through being hurt and accomplishing his objective despite his injuries. He is just a dude, but he's also someone who consistently avoids dying despite his injuries. Some of what the characters in 'Baki' does also applies here, like the idea of imagining your limb to have unlimited joints in order to accelerate a whip strike which comes at the cost of said limb. It's riding the edge of suspension of disbelief, but it pushes the idea of a mortal human having the chance to hurt someone like Goku because the theoretical damage of that attack is immense while also having a permanent cost that allows the audience to leverage the result. The concept is plausible and thus becomes a credible argument. Yuujirou Hanma vs Goku would actually be a fun fight. He has psychology, technique, finesse and philosophy behind his strength. Goku is fundamentally unrefined. The result is still obvious, but there would be interesting things happening. I think some of this is more interesting than "Gojo does infinity" which is just a Superman situation where the interesting idea becomes "what could actually hurt Gojo" and the answer will inevitably come down to 'magic' or to put him in an unwinnable situation where his powers don't save the day. As for who (from anime) would beat Goku, the first thing that comes to mind is Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. I know there's the god cat or whatever and some other literal god-like characters that he fights, but I think we can all understand that Goku does get his ass handed to him on the regular by lesser opponents than this multiple galaxies spanning... thing. It's why this discussion is dumb because the answer is "whatever scales higher" and rather than Dragon Ball being better, it just has a legacy carrying the emotions and stories that allow the audience to enjoy the out-of-proportions fights. Another route is "cartoon logic" and using a Loony Toons character to beat him with anvils dropping from out of nowhere (or Luffy's newest Gear ability).
In terms of who can beat who in battles, I agree that it's important not to take it too seriously. I just think its fun to think of the different possibilities of what could happen in a fight. Sort of like a How It Should Have Ended Video. Ultimately a lot of universes aren't really compatible with how they work and I think many fights are situational dependent. Basically as Stan Lee said, its all about who the writer wants to win.
Ehh... that stan Lee line is really being thrown everywhere, huh? That line, he said, only addressed the fights his fans were asking him about his characters in his verse, not all fiction besides that line isn't all true because in mostly every fight there is a clear winner
@@BSRejector5613 I think its still applies to a certain extent, though I understand where you are coming from. For example those death battle channels the person who decides how the death battle ends is basically the author even though he may not of made the characters. He decides the setting and how the fight would play out.
I can tell you from a physics perspective. It doesn't matter how much control over electricity Hei Has you're not having quantum level matter manipulation. They're either bullshitting here or using a technicality In the fact that electrons are quantum particles.
i was ready for medaka box character or some one from dies arie or some one from Fate series (Tiamat blitz, she is unkilliable) but met with mind bogling list lmao
Yeah the list is very poor, Realistically on this list Saitama is the only person that beats goku, Gojo has a very good chance (assuming it’s in character for Goku and he doesn’t just blow up earth)
@@ramonxr2623 Infinite Void destroys his brain, even if he is so biologically superior he could tank it for a while, Gojo can just keep putting up his domain after recovering a bit while Goku is stunned (there is no world in which he tanks the max duration and ISN'T stunned)
When it comes to gojo vs goku i dont think people realize just how useless gojos abilities are when your speed surpasses TIME ITSELF. While in the saiyan saga goku was already fast enough to traverse hell into heaven which is stated to again be an infinite plain. This would pretty much just negate infinity. The best chance would be hus domain expansion but again it works on your mind while fighting and gokus body can still fight without a mind (ui). And holo purple just isnt fast enough.
I dont think people realize how useless gojo abilities are when goku can blow up the fucking planet with a finger. Power scaling at some point becomes so dumb
@@rastanchacha I think their argument to goku blowing a planet is "no he's too nice, he won't blow up a planet" or "oh gojo would use his domain expansion and overload goku's brain" While not realizing how UI really works lmao
I am so incredibly perplexed by this list, like which version of Goku were they even thinking about? Goku when he's sleeping? Because to me it sounded like they weren't even comparing them to him since they kept bringing up fucking martial arts as some kind of advantage lmao Literal child Goku already knew martial arts and he threw a car above his head in the very first Dragonball chapter 😅
As the strongest pyscher, Anya, fought the saiyan, she began to open her domain "peanut shrine" Goku shrunknin fear and anya said: "Stand proud boy, you are strong"
The whole list itself is just crazy. Seriously. Love Darker than Black but Hei, really? 2b? Tatsumaki is fucking strong especially in the manga but nowhere near the level of Goku. I thought the list was gonna have more characters like Accelerator, Madoka or TTGL Simon which would've really spun chat.
For the gojo one let me clear it Gojo uses domain expansion (spoiler) sukuna was able to tank it for 1 or 2 second cause of Megumi when Gojo open domain his infinity is off and 0.1 second gojo already will be dead with one punch
gigguk as a fellow anime enjoyer and avid scaling prodigy i can confirm no one on this list touches goku there are many other anime characters that do but screen rant only watch mainstream stuff
As the most powerful lifeform to ever grace the planet, mundane man, fought the fodder , Goku , he began to open his domain "infinite bullshit go", Goku shrunk back in fear and then mundane man said " stand proud goku , you're strong"
I'm still fucking baffled by that 2b pick like is she gonna suck him off to death or something ? I also love how they didn't even bother thinking about speed , like goku can dead ass speed blitz everyone in that pick , like they got Anos , rimuru and Shinra out there who can casually stomp on him but somehow managed to throw on such easy task
There's also Mori Jin from god of high school, Sinbad from magi, anyone from the fate series, Akuto Sai from demon king daimo, and possibly Sung Jin Woo from solo leveling.
Goku has raw power, but not too many techniques. Then again the question is whether the techniques could handle the raw power. As Aizen said in bleach and I'm paraphrasing, techniques are basically one power pushing back against another. But the technique does help make up for raw power to a certain extent
The 2B paragraph is DEFINITELY written by AI/ChatGPT. I'm saying because of this sheer ignorance is *very* similar to when I first got into ChatGPT, unaware of what it's capable of and was curious, so I gave it a premise and character abilities and told it provide suggestions on how said character could escape a situation. The result: it completely broke the magic system and made nonsensical ways that were all quite literally Deus ex machinas, because of course it doesn't understand, nor can it comprehend how the magic system works. There is no way I'm going to believe a human writer couldn't comprehend the difference between the agilities of Goku and 2B. Edit: Upon further watching this video, this whole article is most likely AI. The writing style is very similar to the answers I got as well.
40:00 The problem is that Saitama has a set growth rate, meaning even though the increase is exponential, the amount of time it takes is still quantifiable. As such, he couldn't harm someone who outspeeds him to such a degree that they can blitz and one-shot.
only thing is we don't know his cap yet, he does hve a set growth rate but the manga hasn't introduced the floor yet, so trying to figure out the ceiling is impossible
new anime fans or normie forgot that goku literally have the same growth ability, its their saiyan race trait lol. sure maybe its not as fast as saitama growth rate but they have the same ability.
you guys all know how goku fights he aint going to speed blitz ppl its not his style. he would fight saitama at the weakest level he has first. which would boost saitama. then he powers up to SSJ and fools around which would boost saitama and so on until he reached the highest level he could and by that point saitama would be way stronger. goku would literally power saitama up to his max then try and win. you all know this he does it in every fight. yeah goku could speed blitz him if he fought that way but he doesnt. he loves to fight strong opponents if he finds out saitama can grow he would max his potential before ending the fight. ugh
Also, Goku probably resists mind-control garbage too. Vegeta was able to resist mind-control when he was corrupted by bobbidy and his heart was not even pure (remember that he only gave into his mind-control momentarily to desperately get a power boost in order to beat kakkarot).
Depends on who is trying to do the mind-controlling. If said person is on the level of GOTSP Sinbad or has the same level of hax as Yogiri Takatou, doing mind control would easily affect Goku compared to a lowly wizard like Babidi.
Madoka, Homura and Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. I don't even watch that many shows with ridiculously powerful characters, and those three came to mind fast.
@@Kenos347bruh Sailor Moon can time travel and create universes. Goku is not even touching her. She legit is one of the most powerful anime characters ever.
Boruto in the manga Just recently barely became planetary. And there's like a maybe argument. Is goku? Let's borrow to power up. His strongest give smooth might be able to do some good damage. For those who don't know, bourgeois has a move called rossinghan uzuhiko. Which, as described to us, is a attack that uses the Chakra and rotation of the Earth. Boreto can charge this move to an unknown limit. But but it just recently completely eviscerated, one of the bad guys in 1 hit. And keep. In mind, these are people that are stronger than ishiki
40:40 but his Plot Armour only applies when you give him access to HIS Plot. We are comparing the strengths of the characters, not the strength of there Plot now are we. Also in order for Saitama's plot to matter, you would have to put Goku in the One Punch Man Universe, which is unfair to Goku, and vice versa if you put Saitama in Dragon Ball his Plot Armour doesn't exist, because Toriyama and Toyotaro did not write Dragon Ball's plot for Saitama to use. Unless it is some explicit ability of Saitama that makes him able to use the Plot of another story, he isn't using such a method to beat Goku. But he doesn't need to either, Manga Saitama because of Chapter 168 content, can just manually beat Goku over time, assuming Goku plays around with Saitama for long enough and you assume Dragon Ball Universes are Finite.
I don't think 2B could easily beat Goku. But, being able to nuke yourself and respawn with a recant backup of your memories could pose a threat if Goku stood still for a year (to spitball a random timeframe, less time could likely still be enough). Now cell saga Goku might get killed by 2B in this way, or if Goku lets his guard down like when Sorbet shot him with a laser. although, exhaustion would need to play a factor. I can see it being possible, just so extremely unlikely to work out in 2B's favour.
I think the benchmark for any character to even have a 0.1% chance is if they are planet destroyers. The clash of Goku vs vegeta in the saiyan saga would have destroyed earth if goku lost, I guess according to your reasoning 2b would be able to damage that goku but still not injure or kill him. The nuke utilizes two boxes, one from 9s and one from 2b which is why there isn't even a chance of the nuke in a 1v1
I think everyone has a massive over estimate of how powerful a nuke is. A nuke is a way less power than strikes even at the end of dragon ball much less z. Not sure if 2Bs explosions are also way more than that but they would have to be at least planetary + to kill Goku.
The two who came to initially come to mind for me were Wang Ling from Daily Life of the Immortal King, and of course Anos Voldigoad from Misfit of Demon King Academy The real pick though is Arale, Goku would get bodied by her every time
Bro 2B has me rolling. There aint no way its April already. This person has clearly never seen base Goku punch people through mountains when they were blocking his attack.
There are a lot of verses that would mince meat goku, yet the list chose human after human. That said, Saitama, Daemon, and Gojo could win. Saitama because he has infinite exponential scaling, and Daemon and Gojo cause of their hacks.
Goku is power scales to be multiversal at the bare minimum, he one shots not these characters, but their while verses combined in terms of serious power scaling.
What Stan Lee said is useless when it comes to two different characters that comes from two different verse What Stan Lee said only apply if characters comes from the same verse
As one of the 12 Boruto fans, let me weigh in on Daemon, who is genuinely overpowered. All attacks/weapons/everything, even an attack without the intent to harm him is reflected (Code once used him as a shield), but I think the issue with using him in a Goku fight is that, he is always seen reflecting attacks when he's holding onto somebody. I don't think there's any evidence that he can just reflect in a one-on-one scenario, it seems like he needs a third party to be in contact with. Without his reflection, he is OP, but that's only in comparison to the Naruto universe, he's just really fast and strong like any generic anime character, he doesn't really have any feats.
Tohno Shiki from Tsukihime. As long as he gets within a slicing distance of Goku, his Mystic eyes of Death-perfection can allow him to slice Goku apart with just a small pocket knife... but as it is utterly ridiculous to smash together characters from worlds where the power systems an power scalings are totally different, it's all just silly way to kill time. Goku can blow up planets with hardly a sneeze, not much competition there unless you get to bullshit-levels of mindfuckery like Tohno's ability and a bunch of Wat-ifs... ...
Dude, i thought they were gonna talk about nasuverse character or other masada verse or something. Or even rimuru, anos or yogiri takitou. This such meme list.
@@painvillegaming4119as a person who would take dbz over boruto any day, just being real, Daemon slaps. His actual ability is to reflect ANY sort of attack as long as it has intention to harm, even if they don’t want to harm him but he manages to get caught in some sort of crossfire he can still reflect the attack, whether he likes it or not. Ki blasts and Ki attacks wont work, I guess the only non lethal thing that could work is evil contamination wave
@@Anxrchyst Yeah, Daemon is fucking bonkers broken. I'm pretty sure he's the single strongest character in Boruto at the moment, and I don't see any character being able to pass him up any time soon.
I mean daemon's durability is not the same as goku. Goku doesn't need to use spirit bomb to kill daemon and then kill himself. He can use his normal kamehameha and then daemon got hit and goku tank his own kamehameha's damage
@@Rrheyz I don't think you understand how Daemon's counter works, which is understandable because his power is pretty bullshit OP and I hate it. He doesn't need to be hit by or tank an attack to counter it. Even just someone THINKING about inflicting damage on Daemon would be enough to activate his counter. As in, they don't even need to attack him physically. Just the thought is enough. I suppose in that case you could make an argument for ultra instinct, but even then Daemon would still be able to counter the attacks themselves.
Here's my list which I know is not perfect but in my opinion is much better than the screenrant one 1. Kami tenchi 2. Hajun 3. Anti spiral 4. STTGL 5. Anos Voldigoat (maybe) 6. Chaos king 7. Saitama (debatable) 8. Grand priest and Zeno (obviously) 9. Featherine 10. Full power attack from EA by gilgamesh (not sure about this one) 11. Prime soul king 12. Truth (not sure) These are the only ones I know about. There can be other anime characters also. Once again, these are just my opinions.
competent? regulus is literally just some unskilled dude with an op ability at best it's a draw reinhard is like tappei's broli, so idk maybe he chokeslams carrot zero diff
The Daemon part is incorrect. He actually doesn't need to touch anyone. There have been multiple instances in the manga where Daemon wasn't touching anyone yet his opponent's intention got reflected.
This article is so bad, Boruto can actually destroy Goku with Uzuhiko Rasengan, yet in this article they're only talking about shadow clone and Momoshiki Hacks? Pathetic.
After few back and forth this is the list chatgpt came back with 1. Saitama (One Punch Man): His seemingly limitless strength and speed might allow him to compete with Goku, but the outcome would heavily depend on how his abilities scale against Goku’s Ultra Instinct. 2. Giorno Giovanna with Gold Experience Requiem (JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure): This Stand’s ability to nullify any attack or will remains a unique counter that could potentially neutralize Goku’s techniques. 3. Simon with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann): At its peak, Gurren Lagann operates on a scale that surpasses conventional battles, potentially making it a match for Goku’s abilities. 4. Rimuru Tempest (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime): His god-like abilities later in the series, including time manipulation and reality warping, might give him an edge, but it’s still speculative against Ultra Instinct. 5. Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica): Her goddess form allows her to manipulate the fabric of the universe, which could theoretically counter Goku’s physical abilities. 6. Kaguya Otsutsuki (Naruto Shippuden): Her space-time manipulation and immense chakra could pose a challenge, but Goku’s Ultra Instinct and combat experience might give him an upper hand. 7. Haruhi Suzumiya (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya): Her reality-altering powers are immense, but it’s uncertain how they’d fare in a direct confrontation with Goku’s abilities. 8. Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon): In her most powerful forms, she has significant magical powers, but it’s debatable how these would stand against Goku’s martial prowess and Ultra Instinct. 9. Lain Iwakura (Serial Experiments Lain): Her control over reality and perception in the Wired is vast, but how this translates into a physical confrontation with Goku is highly speculative. 10. Alucard (Hellsing): His near-immortality and supernatural abilities make him a tough opponent, but Goku’s Ultra Instinct and superior combat skills could potentially overwhelm him.
Saitama is a gag character, the story is written for him to always be the strongest, even when he was surpassed, the plot made so he never was actually. also, King broke his Luck Limiter, which usually means Saitama bails him out of anything, directly or indirectly, and it would be very unlucky for King if Saitama was killed.
Goku wouldn't stike Daemon with anything near his full power initially, even if attacks reflect they wouldn't hurt Goku & he'd hit Daemon anyway, who'd die from any move Goku has.
He can’t be hit. You’re mistaking the power ‘Reflect’ for the power ‘voodoo’ where he and Goku both get hit. No, only Goku gets hit and Daemon is left unharmed.
I was hoping they'd go meta at least once and throw another Sun Wukong analogy in there. Like Jin Mori would disrespect Goku so badly, dude gains all the abilities of the Buddha AND... he knows martial arts
So hem, about Goku touching Gojo...yeah he technically can...by just, powering up, yeah. He broke Hit's timeskip for example, which is literally another, infinite dimension with it's own time, and he breaks the laws of physics on the daily. So yeah, he could potentially go through Gojo's "Infinity" by sheer strength alone, breaking the laws of infinity itself. Yeah it sounds like a stretch, I know... but it's been proven time and time again that Goku's power is even faaar beyond how op people already think he is. But yeah, Gojo never stood a single chance. As for Saitama, I mean yeah makes sense, Saitama will always win, unless the author decides he doesn't. (I know you can say that about all characters actually, but I'm trying to see it with the writing of the character and the way it is portrayed in mind. Saitama will always be stronger than his opponent, unless it really is something ridiculous like an omniscient god or a conceptualized force of some kind.)
It’s not a stretch. Goku was going to destroy the macrocosmos with Beerus in battle of gods (which is 3 universes, making Goku beyond universal), and the universes are said to be infinite, so he should be able to just punch through it Also, Gojos infinity works on an atomic level, not a subatomic one. Meaning since Goku is faster than light, he can just speed blitz him
Funnily enough Saitama would lose since he's no longer one punch man and had to get stronger to fight Garou and he got stronger because of a rage boost
that is true but if you think about it Goku is never stronger than his opponent he powers up to be on pair and surpass on other hand Saitama the way he is presented is always on higher level no matter what so you gotta give Saitama the win.
Gojo got exactly 1 ability that stands between him and being obliterated by goku thats his limitless, which would end up in a stalemate if not for his domain expansion being the only thing that can affect goku so I'll give them that, just would be a question of does goku teleport outside the domain right away so fast before hes affected or not (kinda unlikely tho)
POV: you have to find characters that can beat goku but you only watched 5 anime
the repeats are what killed me, I wish the masadaverse got more attention lol
@@ThailandsmostwantedThe what?
@@merikijiya13 A lot of the characters there seemed to be made for power scalers
@@crono276 What anime is the Masada verse from?
@@merikijiya13 its a universe by takashi masada
As the strongest liveform, Borugoat
Fought the fraud, Goku
He began to form his Rasengan
Goku shrunk back in fear then Boruto said:
"Stand Proud Goku, You are strong."
"Nah I'll win."🗣❗️🔥
🤮
this was wild
And then boruto wake in a hospital bed and goku was sitting next to him
Nah I'd lose -borufraud
As the strongest anime character, madoka, fought the fodder, Goku, she began to open her domain, Goku shrunk back in fear and then madoka said “stand proud, you’re strong”
Goku smashes that girl
@@HitmanSkip💀
@@HitmanSkip in a fight, right ?
@@HitmanSkipI get what you mean but please word that better😭
@@HitmanSkip In a fight right
Bruh goku not even the strongest character in his verse 💀
😂😂 exactly
That’s what happens when goku’s from an extremely strong anime verse… he may be not strong in his owner verses is getting old …
He is bearly top 30
Doesn't change the fact that no one on this list can touch him
@@fade5609Bruh, at the very least Saitama can defeat him. And if what we've been shown about Daemon in Boruto, he could beat Goku cuz his power is that he can reflect any attack the opponent does on him.
The comment section proving Gigguk right about powerscaling being fun if you don't take things too seriously
it can be fun if u do as well u just have to know where to draw the line. The problem is most people dont actually understand powerscaling so it just leads to a cesspool of coming up with ways to one up another. After all when u break it down, powerscaling just having discussions about an aspect of series which everyone loves to do. Now cross verse is where it gets especially bad and made even worse by no one knowing what they are talking about but regardless we should just enjoy it as another element to storytelling
I feel like people forget that power scaling is just at the end of the day, people do it cuz it's fun and love discussing their series just like anyone else does. When it gets too serious it can be toxic af cuz I will say powerscaling is a topic that can get more heated than a general discussion about fiction since it's more about finding a definitive answer so everyone tries to be correct while say discussing the better genre or characters is finding an objective answer through subjectivity so it's all about preference.
We shouldn't dismiss it completely however, as it can help form better understandings of series. I think we all agree we want good writing and powerscaling is part of that especially so for shonen or action series. Good power scaling can lead to a more consistent feeling which can help better serve the narrative. . Ofc You shouldnt prioritize it all the time and sometimes for the narrative's sake breaking the curve is necessary but i think we can have actual discussions about power scaling without going too far.
It's kinda weird to me seeing people try to have a moral or preliminary highground by saying "powerscaling pfff thats childish or dumb" but then turn around and immediately try to pretend their beloved series is somehow better than another. My guess is it stems from what i said about superiority or a lack of understanding of how powerscaling works. This leads to defunct discussions that aren't even powerscaling anymore with people constantly just saying stuff that sounds right to them. We just need to learn when to speak or not (this goes for a lot of things lol) and not try to one up each other rather give each other reasons to believe in our stances
Tho I agree powerscaling is at its best when it's a video like this where we just go "yes or no" with minor thought cuz it becomes more so a marathon rather than "this character is stronger than this one and you're wrong!"
I think taking it semi seriously is fun like putting in the research to see who would win but people be getting but hurt about stuff which is where i think it starts to get unfun
@@baked7423 the fact that you wrote all that just proves my point
@@Christian-rv4cy more text ≠ somehow taking it too serious. The fact that was ur reply to it all just proved my point of people not wanting to have actual discussions and pretending to have the moral high ground. You're not better somehow for not participating or saying it's dumb
I just asked ChatGPT to write such a list and got this:
It's important to note that the power scaling in anime can be subjective, and debates about who can defeat Goku are common among fans. Goku, from the "Dragon Ball" series, is known for his incredible strength and abilities. However, for the sake of imagination, here are 10 anime characters who, in various scenarios or interpretations, could potentially defeat Goku:
Saitama (One Punch Man):
Why: Saitama is known for defeating any opponent with a single punch. While Goku has incredible power, Saitama's strength is portrayed as limitless and unbeatable.
Giorno Giovanna (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind):
Why: Giorno possesses the Stand named Gold Experience Requiem, which has the ability to nullify any action or attack. This could potentially counter Goku's powerful moves.
Alucard (Hellsing Ultimate):
Why: Alucard is an immensely powerful vampire with regenerative abilities and control over countless familiars. His supernatural abilities could pose a threat to Goku.
Kaguya Ōtsutsuki (Naruto Shippuden):
Why: Kaguya possesses reality-warping abilities and immense chakra. Her powers, especially in the manga, could potentially surpass Goku's strength.
Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica):
Why: Madoka, as a concept, has the power to rewrite the laws of the universe. In her ultimate form, she might have the ability to reshape reality, potentially overcoming Goku.
Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord):
Why: Ainz is an undead overlord with powerful magic and abilities. His diverse set of spells and strategic thinking might give him an edge against Goku.
Accelerator (Toaru Majutsu no Index):
Why: Accelerator can manipulate vectors, making him nearly invulnerable. His ability to control any force, including attacks from Goku, could make him a formidable opponent.
Meliodas (The Seven Deadly Sins):
Why: Meliodas, especially in his Assault Mode, has incredible strength and demonic powers. His ability to negate magical attacks might give him an advantage against Goku.
Mob (Mob Psycho 100):
Why: Mob possesses overwhelming psychic abilities that grow stronger with his emotions. If he were to fully unleash his powers, he might be able to match or surpass Goku.
Lelouch vi Britannia (Code Geass):
Why: Lelouch's Geass power allows him to command anyone to follow his orders without question. While Goku's power is physical, Lelouch's strategic mind could potentially find a way to outsmart him.
Remember, the power levels and abilities of these characters are highly dependent on interpretation, and the outcome of hypothetical battles can vary based on individual opinions and the context of the story.
Honestly a better list than this.
Also Bobobo
Ainz ftw
Only 2 characters here actually beat him 💀 what is Lelouch gonna do if goku just decapitated his head in 1 second
They: ChatGPT is the smartest AI.
Me: Then explain this. 💀
@@jkryan8252 I would guess they share garnts reasoning, but it's an AI so there is no reasoning, just reproduction.
So many and the first they chose is 2B.
It somehow got worse.
yea bruh like wtf! they're simping hard on those "thigh fanservice" 💀😂
Complete fail of an article
I can't blame them i would lose tho 💀
This must have been written by AI
Even AI can't make a braindead list as this ☠️
Even ai wrote a better list lmao.
With asking some redos to chatGPT I got this list. Wayyyyy better than screenrant at least:
1. Saitama (One Punch Man) - Defeats opponents with a single punch, showcasing unmatched strength.
2. Alucard (Hellsing) - A powerful vampire with immense regenerative abilities and control over shadows.
3. Giorno Giovanna (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) - Possesses a Stand with the ability to manipulate life and reality.
4. Aizen Sosuke (Bleach) - A master manipulator with powerful illusions and immense spiritual energy.
5. Accelerator (Toaru Majutsu no Index) - Controls vectors, making him nearly invincible with immense offensive and defensive capabilities.
6. Rimuru Tempest (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) - Gains powerful abilities and can absorb and mimic others' powers.
7. Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica) - A magical girl with reality-warping powers on a cosmic scale.
8. Sosuke Aizen (Bleach) - With the Hogyoku, Aizen achieves a transcendent form, enhancing his power further.
9. Lain Iwakura (Serial Experiments Lain) - An omnipotent being with control over the Wired and reality manipulation.
10. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord) - An undead overlord with powerful magic and reality manipulation.
@@ElvisB. I'm amazed chatGPT watched more anime than screenrant. It even knows Accelerator and Madoka
@@ElvisB. I simply told ChatGPT "List 10 anime characters that can beat Goku" and it returns:
"1. Saitama (One Punch Man): Known as "One Punch Man," Saitama can defeat any opponent with a single punch. The catch is that this is played for humor, and the true extent of his power is intentionally left vague.
2. Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica): In her ultimate form, Madoka possesses reality-warping powers that could potentially challenge Goku.
3. Alucard (Hellsing): The powerful vampire Alucard has a vast array of abilities, including superhuman strength, regeneration, and control over familiars.
4. Kaguya Ōtsutsuki (Naruto): As a character from the "Naruto" series, Kaguya possesses god-like powers, including control over chakra and the ability to manipulate dimensions.
5. Guts (Berserk): While Guts may seem like an unconventional choice, he is an incredibly skilled and determined warrior, wielding the massive Dragonslayer sword.
6. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord): Ainz is an immensely powerful and intelligent undead Overlord with an array of potent spells and abilities.
7. Rimuru Tempest (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime): Rimuru, a slime that gains incredible powers after reincarnation, has the ability to absorb and mimic the abilities of other creatures.
8. Giorno Giovanna (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind): With the power of Gold Experience Requiem, Giorno can manipulate causality and nullify any action taken against him.
9. Accelerator (A Certain Magical Index): Accelerator possesses the ability to manipulate vectors, making him nearly invincible and a formidable opponent.
10. Lelouch vi Britannia (Code Geass): While not a physical powerhouse, Lelouch possesses the Geass, a power that allows him to command anyone to follow his orders, potentially giving him a strategic advantage."
I agree with Stan Lee's take on powerscaling, except for one thing : Suspension of Disbelief.
Squirrel Girl can beat Doctor Doom and THANOS because she's a comedic character and the whole idea of her beating them is hilarious enough to maintain the suspension of disbelief that a squirrel-controlling mutant can clap a universal threat. In the same vein, King from OPM can beat anyone because the enemy's own fear of his reputation is what does them in.
But in a series with a more serious tone and with non-comedic characters, there is a limit to how much the author can stretch the outcome of a battle.
Tony Stark can beat the Hulk in one of his armors, but not out of it. He can maybe talk down the Hulk or turn him back into Banner, but beating him in a straightforward battle would have everyone mocking the author's hard-on for Iron Man for all of eternity.
If I remember right Hei’s power is actually matter manipulation he just only knows how to use electric shocks since it’s his sisters power and he has no idea what he’s doing. I think the green haired girl helped him use the power once at the end of season 1 and then it’s just never brought up again. Still doubt he could take Goku with that though
Was going to say this since Hei is able to manipulate matter at a quantum level at the end of S1 to stop some weapon (it's been at least a decade since I watched this)
yea prolly not since goku survived existance errasure, but idk if that counts as matter manipulation
@@ppLover_TheGoatconsidering hakai literally erases matter
yes
From what I remember he uses it at the end of s2 after learning how to use it in s1 so he knows how to use it, i don’t remember why he doesn’t use it more during the season before losing his powers tho
Definitive list of people who can crush Goku
10) Saitama
9) Jacked spongebob
8) Chichi
7) An angry Nami
6) Stupid Sexy Flanders
5) Cory from Cory in the House (he looks like he knows BJJ)
4) Down D Stairs
3) Angry Arthur meme
2) Doujin Artists
1) Ultra Instinct Shaggy
Maybe popeye
Mash vs goku is the anime version of “coughing baby vs atomic bomb”
What are you talking about? They said Mash is the strongest pugilist in all of anime. ALL ANIME!! 😂
In my opinion. If you want to do a fight to powerscale Goku. You have to ask yourself one single thing "If Goku destroys the planet, will they survive" because most of those dont cut the chase.
First person to come to mind is Simon from Gurren Lagann. Man casually chucked universes like Shuriken
"If Goku destroys the planet, will Goku survive?" is a better one
@@Rockypop100. the simple answer is yes, he can even instant transmission to another planet 🤷♂
@@moebino2685the other planets won't have oxygen
@@magnificentbananabutter2475 he can go back lol?
For the question regarding Hei, yes at the very end of Season 1 he gains the power to manipulate things on a quantum level by managing electrons.
Spoilers for those who haven't watched:
Hei's ability was never "electricity," rather it was never his power to begin with. It was his sister Pai's power, which is control over *electrons*, not just electricity. Hei unknowingly absorbed Pai into himself during the incident in South America (this is why Hei doesn't have a "price" for his "contract," since Pai paid for it with her "death"), Amber reveals this to him before she turns back time one last time and dies for him. Though unlike Pai, Hei's power wasn't mastered or taken anywhere since like everyone said, Hei loses his powers in the second season. Not saying he can beat Goku with it but he did have that power at one point lol.
Glad Garnt brought up Accelerator.. Do I think he can win? Nope, he's lost to less, but it's an interesting thought, especially since recently that mofo learned how to use magic too lol
I looooove how #5 was the point gigguk said “this must be a shitpost…” and not anytime before
This is the kind of quality content I come to UA-cam for.
Maybe they misspelled Grogu to Goku
The writer of this list has not seen a single episode of DB
The dude who wrote this article is best stand up comedian i have ever seen
Their are many LN characters who wipe DBS multiverse.
@turnermarius4471 yah I know. There fits are much more impressive. Especially in Chinese ones
It's the most accurate list
Bro whoever made this list hasn't watched dragon ball at all 😂
They sure in the hell haven't watched Dragon Ball Super 🤣
It's like you said at the beginning, the winner is whoever the author wants it to be. This author just really wants Goku to lose.
As a giant fan of Hei, I can certifiably say that this author should be committed to an insane asylum NOW
The quantum thing is true but even the it's not enough to hurt injure Goku let alone kill him
Mash actually has incredible feats in the manga. He fucking defied a time travelling overlord by being too strong 😂
the dude is literally just constantly answering off chat's opinion, he is literally forming it as he reads chat wtf
59:20 Goku uses a technique which brings him back to life while he was challenging Hit to assassinate him. As long as Goku knows that he is being targeted by Light, he can just rely on his instincts to instantaneously use that revival chi ball technique on him when he gets a heart attack. Also, as long as he knows how Lelouch's geass works, he can just fight and win blind-folded; he only loses if their eye contacts meet.
doesn't really help against Light. The Death Note can do more than heart attacks, it can fully control a persons very actions that lead up to their death. Such as making them carve a message onto a wall. Or even riding a bus then firing shots. The person doesn't even realize they're under control, they think they just chose to do said actions on their own. Even accidents can be planned out by Light.
@@5h0ckblock But what physical thing can kill Goku though? Anything which is not capable of killing Goku gets translated to heart attacks. At this point, I don't even know if Goku can commit suicide 😂 That's certainly an intriguing thought ig.
@@kairostimeYT It's only automatically a heart attack if you write something that's a physical impossibility. One thing to remember is that Goku's durability(or any DB character for that matter) is dependent on his energy. When in a relaxed state things that usually wouldn't hurt him can hurt him. Think back to when he was fighting Frieza and got shot by an alien blaster, while in Super Saiyan Blue. Or the cell Saga when Krillin chucked a rock at him. These are instances where Goku is so relaxed that he takes damage he shouldn't have. The same applies if he's exhausted from a large scale battle. All Light needs is to write a series of events that would cause Goku's energy to deplete enough that something can kill him, or have Goku lower his guard. Possibly even both if he's creative enough. What's interesting about this is that we the audience saw Goku train to complete exhaustion before in Super Hero. He could barely move by the end.
Light can also control multiple people at once. So for instance "Goku decides to have a sparring match with one of his friends. During the battle, Goku wastes a bunch of energy on large scale beams, all of which the friend avoids. Then, while Goku is exhausted, he is unable to dodge an oncoming strike to the neck, which accidentally ruptures an artery."
As for Goku committing suicide, that's fairly easy. He could just use a distructo disk and slice his own body. Or fly to space, exposing himself to it's vacuum. Even holding his breath until suffocation could do it.
Also, Light could always just write that Goku chooses to ignore his own heart attack, thinking it was nothing. Making it so he doesn't do the revival technique he used with Hit.
@@5h0ckblockBro the deathnote can only work on humans its the primary rule of its functioning and gokus not even human. Hes an aliean so I dunno what is deathnote gonna do to him
you forgot that goku is not his real name
That article is literally rage farming for engagement. To be honest, it does seem like an AI article.
There is a point that I think is being missed, which is that this is more about the narrative idea of concepts, rather than having the measurable power to beat Goku.
Garnt sort of understands this once he sees Saitama, which is that his power is not measurable, because Saitama isn't a defined superhero as much as he's the concept of surpassing your obstacles and having no challenges left (meanwhile Genos only exists to serve as an example of how much more powerful others are). Meanwhile Goku is all about attitude, about picking yourself up after losing. Goku would lose. And then he'd stand back up again. And then he'd lose, ad infinitum. Conceptually he'd probably never win.
Let me put it another way... Golden Kamuy's "Immortal Sugimoto" can't beat Goku, but he'll never lose to him, because his conceptual power is being an "unconventional survivor" who fights through being hurt and accomplishing his objective despite his injuries. He is just a dude, but he's also someone who consistently avoids dying despite his injuries.
Some of what the characters in 'Baki' does also applies here, like the idea of imagining your limb to have unlimited joints in order to accelerate a whip strike which comes at the cost of said limb. It's riding the edge of suspension of disbelief, but it pushes the idea of a mortal human having the chance to hurt someone like Goku because the theoretical damage of that attack is immense while also having a permanent cost that allows the audience to leverage the result. The concept is plausible and thus becomes a credible argument.
Yuujirou Hanma vs Goku would actually be a fun fight. He has psychology, technique, finesse and philosophy behind his strength. Goku is fundamentally unrefined. The result is still obvious, but there would be interesting things happening.
I think some of this is more interesting than "Gojo does infinity" which is just a Superman situation where the interesting idea becomes "what could actually hurt Gojo" and the answer will inevitably come down to 'magic' or to put him in an unwinnable situation where his powers don't save the day.
As for who (from anime) would beat Goku, the first thing that comes to mind is Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
I know there's the god cat or whatever and some other literal god-like characters that he fights, but I think we can all understand that Goku does get his ass handed to him on the regular by lesser opponents than this multiple galaxies spanning... thing.
It's why this discussion is dumb because the answer is "whatever scales higher" and rather than Dragon Ball being better, it just has a legacy carrying the emotions and stories that allow the audience to enjoy the out-of-proportions fights. Another route is "cartoon logic" and using a Loony Toons character to beat him with anvils dropping from out of nowhere (or Luffy's newest Gear ability).
Nah it's not AI. I have used AI for the same thing and it's a lot smarter with way better results than this. Results which actually made sense.
In terms of who can beat who in battles, I agree that it's important not to take it too seriously. I just think its fun to think of the different possibilities of what could happen in a fight. Sort of like a How It Should Have Ended Video. Ultimately a lot of universes aren't really compatible with how they work and I think many fights are situational dependent. Basically as Stan Lee said, its all about who the writer wants to win.
i love this comment, your a very intelligent fella, you deserve a crown
Ehh... that stan Lee line is really being thrown everywhere, huh? That line, he said, only addressed the fights his fans were asking him about his characters in his verse, not all fiction besides that line isn't all true because in mostly every fight there is a clear winner
@@BSRejector5613 I think its still applies to a certain extent, though I understand where you are coming from. For example those death battle channels the person who decides how the death battle ends is basically the author even though he may not of made the characters. He decides the setting and how the fight would play out.
I can tell you from a physics perspective. It doesn't matter how much control over electricity Hei Has you're not having quantum level matter manipulation. They're either bullshitting here or using a technicality In the fact that electrons are quantum particles.
Guys we misunderstood
They meant in an exam…
Bro counts on his fingers💀
i was ready for medaka box character or some one from dies arie or some one from Fate series (Tiamat blitz, she is unkilliable) but met with mind bogling list lmao
Yeah the list is very poor, Realistically on this list Saitama is the only person that beats goku, Gojo has a very good chance (assuming it’s in character for Goku and he doesn’t just blow up earth)
@@AlexRight Even if Goku can't touch him, Gojo is doing no damage to him.
@@ramonxr2623 DE destroys goku’s brain
@@ramonxr2623 Infinite Void destroys his brain, even if he is so biologically superior he could tank it for a while, Gojo can just keep putting up his domain after recovering a bit while Goku is stunned (there is no world in which he tanks the max duration and ISN'T stunned)
@@anusaukko6792Goku has Ui tho
When it comes to gojo vs goku i dont think people realize just how useless gojos abilities are when your speed surpasses TIME ITSELF. While in the saiyan saga goku was already fast enough to traverse hell into heaven which is stated to again be an infinite plain. This would pretty much just negate infinity. The best chance would be hus domain expansion but again it works on your mind while fighting and gokus body can still fight without a mind (ui). And holo purple just isnt fast enough.
I dont think people realize how useless gojo abilities are when goku can blow up the fucking planet with a finger.
Power scaling at some point becomes so dumb
@@rastanchacha I think their argument to goku blowing a planet is "no he's too nice, he won't blow up a planet" or "oh gojo would use his domain expansion and overload goku's brain" While not realizing how UI really works lmao
I am so incredibly perplexed by this list, like which version of Goku were they even thinking about? Goku when he's sleeping? Because to me it sounded like they weren't even comparing them to him since they kept bringing up fucking martial arts as some kind of advantage lmao
Literal child Goku already knew martial arts and he threw a car above his head in the very first Dragonball chapter 😅
As the strongest pyscher, Anya, fought the saiyan, she began to open her domain "peanut shrine"
Goku shrunknin fear and anya said:
"Stand proud boy, you are strong"
I don't even know if any of these guys can beat Yamcha.
The fact isn’t Arale Norimaki isn’t even on the list is crazy (She's a gag character from Dr. Slump, which is also by Akira Toriyama)
The whole list itself is just crazy. Seriously. Love Darker than Black but Hei, really? 2b? Tatsumaki is fucking strong especially in the manga but nowhere near the level of Goku. I thought the list was gonna have more characters like Accelerator, Madoka or TTGL Simon which would've really spun chat.
I laughed so much during this watch LOL 😂
For the gojo one let me clear it Gojo uses domain expansion (spoiler) sukuna was able to tank it for 1 or 2 second cause of Megumi when Gojo open domain his infinity is off and 0.1 second gojo already will be dead with one punch
gigguk as a fellow anime enjoyer and avid scaling prodigy i can confirm no one on this list touches goku there are many other anime characters that do but screen rant only watch mainstream stuff
As the most powerful lifeform to ever grace the planet, mundane man, fought the fodder , Goku , he began to open his domain "infinite bullshit go", Goku shrunk back in fear and then mundane man said " stand proud goku , you're strong"
Goku is more afraid of Chi Chi than anyone (not just some of them) on the list and with good reason 😂😂
I'm still fucking baffled by that 2b pick like is she gonna suck him off to death or something ? I also love how they didn't even bother thinking about speed , like goku can dead ass speed blitz everyone in that pick , like they got Anos , rimuru and Shinra out there who can casually stomp on him but somehow managed to throw on such easy task
Ngl that would be some SERIOUS dome tho 👀
The green site doesn't lie
There's also Mori Jin from god of high school, Sinbad from magi, anyone from the fate series, Akuto Sai from demon king daimo, and possibly Sung Jin Woo from solo leveling.
@@Fatalis690 Agree with all but sun jin woo?Haven't read the extra chapters yet but whats his feats?
@@BvLee which one 💀
Saiki K! No one mentions him when he’s the secret most op character ever 😂😂
Goku isn't a human so light does not win,Lelouch doesn't have the reaction time to even try to catch goku slippin
Damn entire chat was filled with spoilers when they started discussing Gojo
Goku is really strong, but he's not unbeatable
exactly, but this list didnt prove the characters that beat him tho. they could have gone w anos, rimuru or even gilgamesh
Goku has raw power, but not too many techniques. Then again the question is whether the techniques could handle the raw power. As Aizen said in bleach and I'm paraphrasing, techniques are basically one power pushing back against another. But the technique does help make up for raw power to a certain extent
@@ppLover_TheGoat rimuru and Gilgamesh are not making it out alive
Exactly. He got defeated by a Lazer gun. 😂
@@SphesihleKhumalo-yf9ot yes they are
The 2B paragraph is DEFINITELY written by AI/ChatGPT. I'm saying because of this sheer ignorance is *very* similar to when I first got into ChatGPT, unaware of what it's capable of and was curious, so I gave it a premise and character abilities and told it provide suggestions on how said character could escape a situation. The result: it completely broke the magic system and made nonsensical ways that were all quite literally Deus ex machinas, because of course it doesn't understand, nor can it comprehend how the magic system works.
There is no way I'm going to believe a human writer couldn't comprehend the difference between the agilities of Goku and 2B.
Edit: Upon further watching this video, this whole article is most likely AI. The writing style is very similar to the answers I got as well.
Im ngl Daemon might actually stand a chance cause of hacks
40:00
The problem is that Saitama has a set growth rate, meaning even though the increase is exponential, the amount of time it takes is still quantifiable. As such, he couldn't harm someone who outspeeds him to such a degree that they can blitz and one-shot.
only thing is we don't know his cap yet, he does hve a set growth rate but the manga hasn't introduced the floor yet, so trying to figure out the ceiling is impossible
new anime fans or normie forgot that goku literally have the same growth ability, its their saiyan race trait lol. sure maybe its not as fast as saitama growth rate but they have the same ability.
I'll accept the argument that saitama can beat goku when he neg diffs god
you guys all know how goku fights he aint going to speed blitz ppl its not his style. he would fight saitama at the weakest level he has first. which would boost saitama. then he powers up to SSJ and fools around which would boost saitama and so on until he reached the highest level he could and by that point saitama would be way stronger. goku would literally power saitama up to his max then try and win. you all know this he does it in every fight. yeah goku could speed blitz him if he fought that way but he doesnt. he loves to fight strong opponents if he finds out saitama can grow he would max his potential before ending the fight. ugh
@@ramonxr2623well, he did neg diff God in that fanmade manga which I heard One also took part in writing. So we can assume that version is canon
anime logic is „the protagonist will always find a way“ ,so it’s just about who the protagonist is in the fight
This list just screams "I just started watching anime about a year ago".
Also, Goku probably resists mind-control garbage too. Vegeta was able to resist mind-control when he was corrupted by bobbidy and his heart was not even pure (remember that he only gave into his mind-control momentarily to desperately get a power boost in order to beat kakkarot).
Depends on who is trying to do the mind-controlling.
If said person is on the level of GOTSP Sinbad or has the same level of hax as Yogiri Takatou, doing mind control would easily affect Goku compared to a lowly wizard like Babidi.
That wasn't mind control, it was influence.........
@@ParadiseDB7it was mind controll pal
@@franciscoarzapalozapata4610 bro said pal
@@ParadiseDB7 pal said bro
When I saw Boruto on the list, I immediately check what month it is... there's no way this list is not made on April
Out of everyone on the list he has the 3rd best chance
@@jordanl5436borutotard🤡🤡
Madoka, Homura and Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. I don't even watch that many shows with ridiculously powerful characters, and those three came to mind fast.
sailor moom,seiya and more the list goes on
@@rexflamevermillion5527 Sailor Moon only Galaxy lvl Goku smashes
@@Kenos347Sailor moon is universal wym?
@@Kenos347bruh Sailor Moon can time travel and create universes. Goku is not even touching her. She legit is one of the most powerful anime characters ever.
@@youngrootv Nope Goku decimates he is Complex Multi 🗿
2B showing up right off the bat is insane. Just him turning super Saiyan would melt her and he'd make her into jewelry for ChiChi
Boruto in the manga Just recently barely became planetary. And there's like a maybe argument. Is goku? Let's borrow to power up. His strongest give smooth might be able to do some good damage.
For those who don't know, bourgeois has a move called rossinghan uzuhiko. Which, as described to us, is a attack that uses the Chakra and rotation of the Earth. Boreto can charge this move to an unknown limit. But but it just recently completely eviscerated, one of the bad guys in 1 hit. And keep.
In mind, these are people that are stronger than ishiki
40:40 but his Plot Armour only applies when you give him access to HIS Plot. We are comparing the strengths of the characters, not the strength of there Plot now are we. Also in order for Saitama's plot to matter, you would have to put Goku in the One Punch Man Universe, which is unfair to Goku, and vice versa if you put Saitama in Dragon Ball his Plot Armour doesn't exist, because Toriyama and Toyotaro did not write Dragon Ball's plot for Saitama to use. Unless it is some explicit ability of Saitama that makes him able to use the Plot of another story, he isn't using such a method to beat Goku. But he doesn't need to either, Manga Saitama because of Chapter 168 content, can just manually beat Goku over time, assuming Goku plays around with Saitama for long enough and you assume Dragon Ball Universes are Finite.
I don't think 2B could easily beat Goku. But, being able to nuke yourself and respawn with a recant backup of your memories could pose a threat if Goku stood still for a year (to spitball a random timeframe, less time could likely still be enough). Now cell saga Goku might get killed by 2B in this way, or if Goku lets his guard down like when Sorbet shot him with a laser. although, exhaustion would need to play a factor.
I can see it being possible, just so extremely unlikely to work out in 2B's favour.
I think the benchmark for any character to even have a 0.1% chance is if they are planet destroyers. The clash of Goku vs vegeta in the saiyan saga would have destroyed earth if goku lost, I guess according to your reasoning 2b would be able to damage that goku but still not injure or kill him. The nuke utilizes two boxes, one from 9s and one from 2b which is why there isn't even a chance of the nuke in a 1v1
@@maboigilgamesh3231 Good point. I forgot about the two boxes requirement.
I think everyone has a massive over estimate of how powerful a nuke is. A nuke is a way less power than strikes even at the end of dragon ball much less z. Not sure if 2Bs explosions are also way more than that but they would have to be at least planetary + to kill Goku.
Goku can blow up the moon and they are done
@@mathieul4303 So true. Goku would definitely win but I think if Goku let them they'd have the power to beat Goku while Super Saiyan.
The two who came to initially come to mind for me were Wang Ling from Daily Life of the Immortal King, and of course Anos Voldigoad from Misfit of Demon King Academy
The real pick though is Arale, Goku would get bodied by her every time
Bocchi when she has the confidence to quit her job! 😂
Bro 2B has me rolling. There aint no way its April already. This person has clearly never seen base Goku punch people through mountains when they were blocking his attack.
There are a lot of verses that would mince meat goku, yet the list chose human after human.
That said, Saitama, Daemon, and Gojo could win. Saitama because he has infinite exponential scaling, and Daemon and Gojo cause of their hacks.
Goku is power scales to be multiversal at the bare minimum, he one shots not these characters, but their while verses combined in terms of serious power scaling.
Imagine not including Gurren Lagann in a list like this
Throwing entire galaxies as shuriken wasn't as important as knowing BJJ
the lack of certain op as fuck magical girls is a bruh move no one from sailor moon and mahou madoka
What Stan Lee said is useless when it comes to two different characters that comes from two different verse
What Stan Lee said only apply if characters comes from the same verse
As one of the 12 Boruto fans, let me weigh in on Daemon, who is genuinely overpowered. All attacks/weapons/everything, even an attack without the intent to harm him is reflected (Code once used him as a shield), but I think the issue with using him in a Goku fight is that, he is always seen reflecting attacks when he's holding onto somebody. I don't think there's any evidence that he can just reflect in a one-on-one scenario, it seems like he needs a third party to be in contact with. Without his reflection, he is OP, but that's only in comparison to the Naruto universe, he's just really fast and strong like any generic anime character, he doesn't really have any feats.
Goku so strong...even his creator, Akira Toriyama need to nerf him by turning to a baby in the next series....😂
Tohno Shiki from Tsukihime. As long as he gets within a slicing distance of Goku, his Mystic eyes of Death-perfection can allow him to slice Goku apart with just a small pocket knife... but as it is utterly ridiculous to smash together characters from worlds where the power systems an power scalings are totally different, it's all just silly way to kill time. Goku can blow up planets with hardly a sneeze, not much competition there unless you get to bullshit-levels of mindfuckery like Tohno's ability and a bunch of Wat-ifs... ...
imagine the collateral misogi could do in dbz verse bruh
Shiki CAN kill Goku, the problem is whether or not he can touch him in the first place--which he probably isn't going to be able to do.
@@rexflamevermillion5527 imagine medaka
I was expecting Anos or Rimuru but not this 😂
I don’t even watch that much anime and even I can tell 2b vs Goku is absolutely absurd 😭
Goku destroys the planet, Gojo dies from suffication, goku uses the dragon balls and revives everyone and returns the planet back to normal.
You should just do stream where you ask AI a bunch of contentious anime questions.
Would be fun tbh.
Erwin can beat Goku by inspiring him to kill himself.
Freiren can also do that, except it's not inspiring
Then lelouch can easily beat Goku.
Dude, i thought they were gonna talk about nasuverse character or other masada verse or something. Or even rimuru, anos or yogiri takitou. This such meme list.
If you fought Goku, would you lose?
Boruto: Nah I'd win
To be fair, Boruto learned infinite rotation from jojo part 7, so if he hit Goku with that, he would be slightly inconvenienced.
He also karma that would give strength & flight that matches Goku, not to mention he can absorb energy -based techniques with it.
With Daemon even if Goku did know his abilities he would let him use it just to find out.
Goku literally just need a finger flick to beat him
@@painvillegaming4119as a person who would take dbz over boruto any day, just being real, Daemon slaps. His actual ability is to reflect ANY sort of attack as long as it has intention to harm, even if they don’t want to harm him but he manages to get caught in some sort of crossfire he can still reflect the attack, whether he likes it or not. Ki blasts and Ki attacks wont work, I guess the only non lethal thing that could work is evil contamination wave
@@Anxrchyst Yeah, Daemon is fucking bonkers broken. I'm pretty sure he's the single strongest character in Boruto at the moment, and I don't see any character being able to pass him up any time soon.
I mean daemon's durability is not the same as goku. Goku doesn't need to use spirit bomb to kill daemon and then kill himself. He can use his normal kamehameha and then daemon got hit and goku tank his own kamehameha's damage
@@Rrheyz I don't think you understand how Daemon's counter works, which is understandable because his power is pretty bullshit OP and I hate it. He doesn't need to be hit by or tank an attack to counter it. Even just someone THINKING about inflicting damage on Daemon would be enough to activate his counter. As in, they don't even need to attack him physically. Just the thought is enough. I suppose in that case you could make an argument for ultra instinct, but even then Daemon would still be able to counter the attacks themselves.
Here's my list which I know is not perfect but in my opinion is much better than the screenrant one
1. Kami tenchi
2. Hajun
3. Anti spiral
4. STTGL
5. Anos Voldigoat (maybe)
6. Chaos king
7. Saitama (debatable)
8. Grand priest and Zeno (obviously)
9. Featherine
10. Full power attack from EA by gilgamesh (not sure about this one)
11. Prime soul king
12. Truth (not sure)
These are the only ones I know about. There can be other anime characters also. Once again, these are just my opinions.
Toaru-verse have like 20 characters can beat goku
Honkai gakuen and Honkai impact have some more characters
What i want to know is how did garnt or chat not bring up reinherd or regulus. They're extremely competent enough to be a candidate against goku.
competent? regulus is literally just some unskilled dude with an op ability
at best it's a draw
reinhard is like tappei's broli, so idk maybe he chokeslams carrot zero diff
Dude never used Control F more than once in his entire life 💀
One character not mentioned that could defeat Goku is another gag character in Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
and Takaba from JJK
Batman with enough prep time can beat goku..
Now this is a take I can get behind.
The Daemon part is incorrect. He actually doesn't need to touch anyone. There have been multiple instances in the manga where Daemon wasn't touching anyone yet his opponent's intention got reflected.
It's probably because their WEAPONS touched Daemon
@@ArkanMatlub03 No they didn't. Even when Daemon was chilling on the couch, he was able to reflect Kawaki's hurtful intent without even touching Eida.
Anos Solos the DBZ verse
Who- snoop dogg
This article is so bad, Boruto can actually destroy Goku with Uzuhiko Rasengan, yet in this article they're only talking about shadow clone and Momoshiki Hacks? Pathetic.
After few back and forth this is the list chatgpt came back with
1. Saitama (One Punch Man): His seemingly limitless strength and speed might allow him to compete with Goku, but the outcome would heavily depend on how his abilities scale against Goku’s Ultra Instinct.
2. Giorno Giovanna with Gold Experience Requiem (JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure): This Stand’s ability to nullify any attack or will remains a unique counter that could potentially neutralize Goku’s techniques.
3. Simon with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann): At its peak, Gurren Lagann operates on a scale that surpasses conventional battles, potentially making it a match for Goku’s abilities.
4. Rimuru Tempest (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime): His god-like abilities later in the series, including time manipulation and reality warping, might give him an edge, but it’s still speculative against Ultra Instinct.
5. Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Madoka Magica): Her goddess form allows her to manipulate the fabric of the universe, which could theoretically counter Goku’s physical abilities.
6. Kaguya Otsutsuki (Naruto Shippuden): Her space-time manipulation and immense chakra could pose a challenge, but Goku’s Ultra Instinct and combat experience might give him an upper hand.
7. Haruhi Suzumiya (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya): Her reality-altering powers are immense, but it’s uncertain how they’d fare in a direct confrontation with Goku’s abilities.
8. Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon): In her most powerful forms, she has significant magical powers, but it’s debatable how these would stand against Goku’s martial prowess and Ultra Instinct.
9. Lain Iwakura (Serial Experiments Lain): Her control over reality and perception in the Wired is vast, but how this translates into a physical confrontation with Goku is highly speculative.
10. Alucard (Hellsing): His near-immortality and supernatural abilities make him a tough opponent, but Goku’s Ultra Instinct and superior combat skills could potentially overwhelm him.
Saitama isn’t limitless
@@DannyLee-zv9gl the story says multiple times that he has no limit for growth tho, and breaking limiters is a big point of the story
isn't king the plot armor guy?
Saitama is a gag character, the story is written for him to always be the strongest, even when he was surpassed, the plot made so he never was actually.
also, King broke his Luck Limiter, which usually means Saitama bails him out of anything, directly or indirectly, and it would be very unlucky for King if Saitama was killed.
goku fans can't even be trigerred at this list LOL🤣
fr 🤣🤣😭😭
Goku wouldn't stike Daemon with anything near his full power initially, even if attacks reflect they wouldn't hurt Goku & he'd hit Daemon anyway, who'd die from any move Goku has.
strike*
He can’t be hit. You’re mistaking the power ‘Reflect’ for the power ‘voodoo’ where he and Goku both get hit. No, only Goku gets hit and Daemon is left unharmed.
@@thatguysho227 no I'm saying Goku could take the brunt of one of his own attack and just follow through
@@Luissv72 sorry I misunderstood.
The real curve ball here, I will throw, is Victini from Pokemon, it's thing in lore is that it literally always wins in the end.
the real answer is mr satan, he sent goku flying over a building alongside his tractor
This is genuinely the worst list I've ever seen lmao
I was hoping they'd go meta at least once and throw another Sun Wukong analogy in there. Like Jin Mori would disrespect Goku so badly, dude gains all the abilities of the Buddha AND... he knows martial arts
32:54 if Boruto showed Goku his story, Goku would definitely die of heart failure 😂😂
More like die of sadness, boruto have a harder life than him.
That article is the definition of the "that is bait" meme
the writer of this article legit makes a list of 10 characters of who could beat goku, and doesnt use anyone who can warp reality
So hem, about Goku touching Gojo...yeah he technically can...by just, powering up, yeah. He broke Hit's timeskip for example, which is literally another, infinite dimension with it's own time, and he breaks the laws of physics on the daily. So yeah, he could potentially go through Gojo's "Infinity" by sheer strength alone, breaking the laws of infinity itself. Yeah it sounds like a stretch, I know... but it's been proven time and time again that Goku's power is even faaar beyond how op people already think he is. But yeah, Gojo never stood a single chance.
As for Saitama, I mean yeah makes sense, Saitama will always win, unless the author decides he doesn't. (I know you can say that about all characters actually, but I'm trying to see it with the writing of the character and the way it is portrayed in mind. Saitama will always be stronger than his opponent, unless it really is something ridiculous like an omniscient god or a conceptualized force of some kind.)
It’s not a stretch. Goku was going to destroy the macrocosmos with Beerus in battle of gods (which is 3 universes, making Goku beyond universal), and the universes are said to be infinite, so he should be able to just punch through it
Also, Gojos infinity works on an atomic level, not a subatomic one. Meaning since Goku is faster than light, he can just speed blitz him
Funnily enough Saitama would lose since he's no longer one punch man and had to get stronger to fight Garou and he got stronger because of a rage boost
@@thehalfdeadguy7563yeah, plus Saitama is just Galaxy+ level right now, he is far from being goku level
@@SinisterMars its just facts, saitama is fodder, there’s nothing to cry about
Bruh anyone who has watched db knows that the "power out scales hax" rule applies to Goku,he literally beats every hax against him with sheer force
that is true but if you think about it Goku is never stronger than his opponent he powers up to be on pair and surpass on other hand Saitama the way he is presented is always on higher level no matter what so you gotta give Saitama the win.
@@kuronekogamer2065 That only applies if saitama has done feats greater then Goku which he hasn't
Gojo got exactly 1 ability that stands between him and being obliterated by goku thats his limitless, which would end up in a stalemate if not for his domain expansion being the only thing that can affect goku so I'll give them that, just would be a question of does goku teleport outside the domain right away so fast before hes affected or not (kinda unlikely tho)
At this point, anybody who can be an antagonist to Goku can beat him.
It all makes total sense if from all Dragonball universe you only have seen live action Dragonball Evolution movie