*2020 update* Behringer p16 in ear system with analog mixer
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Here is an updated video answering some of the questions you guys had in the previous video. If you have anymore questions please feel free to leave a comment down below and I’ll do my best to get back to you as soon as I can. Thanks for watching!
Please read through the comments as I answered some questions already! If you still don’t find an answer then go ahead and let me know!
Can you please give in details the things you are using. Starting from the mixer up to the stage. The list of staffs to get
You don’t technically need these adapters. You can half insert the .25” cable so that only one band transmits data and that will provide the same effect. But its probably better to have the adapters for the security of not having a channel come loose during the set
Exactly!! Highly doubt theyd come loose unless a mouse is back there praising 😂
@@TerranceNock yeah, but with a snake like that its super easy to accidentally grab one of those cables and rip out like 5 at a time.
@@wheeler116that’s def true man.
Thanks for the video. My church uses analog as well and I've been wanting to get in ears for the musicians for awhile now. Now I know how to set it up
Ruben Hernandez glad I could help! Comment if you have more questions!
Bro that setup is nice I’ll suggest To raise funds and your already in the Behringer platform get any digital Ethernet mixer they are awesome your control over Ethernet will be much better just make sure they are compatible with the play p16 you got and you can sale the Yamaha with that Ethernet you have hooked up you won’t need it the 16channels so much space you’ll have :) but for now keep praising the lord for what you guys have
Thanks man! Yea I’m in the process of getting a digital mixer already. Hopefully everything goes smoothly. Appreciate the comment!
Thank you for the video. One question; why do you need a stereo adapter for your snake cable that is already stereo?
Need this answered please!
Thank you for this! I've looked everywhere for information about running the P16-I into the P16-D, and this video proves that it's possible and it works!
You got it! Glad I could help 🙌🏼
@@ourvoice7 I do have another question though. Is there a reason you're using the P16-D? Is it for more power to the personal monitor mixers?
I hear that just having the P16-I into the monitor mixers would be enough, but I have read someplaces that musicians didn't have enough power going to them with that alone. Is that the purpose of the P16-D?
Thanks again
Thank you for showing this - from Calvary Chapel River Oaks in Georgia
If you get turnosound iq series speakers ie: IQ15s or IQ10s. They have a ultranet input and a through output, you can use the P16-I to run them digitaly
That’s true but I don’t believe you have the ability to adjust each channel individually since that output is just the mains
Thanks man greetings from Phoenix!!
Can you insert the link for your distributor and adapters?
I have a Behringer 2442 analog mixer I took the eight direct out from the back of the mixer and ran them to my P 16I with a ts snake ( it only had 8 direct outs)
From the p16i i plugged in the p16m’s
I was a little confused as to why this gentleman had the trs to ts adapter to a tra snake? Then he mentioned y cables in the comments.
This information is very hard to come by so I’ll say it again
Analog mixer direct outs directly to p16i to the p16m’s
Works great.
if you have direct out do not need anything. you need to connect from direct out to p16
Now i have a x32 . On digital you can go direct out to p16 but analog u still need the p16I
@@dtworzguitar5775 you x32 so you do not need. you connect from 32 to switcher direct
@@peteryousef5177 now i have x32 to p16d to 4 p16’s
I don’t get why you need a 1/4” adapter if you plugging in a 1/4” from the snake.
So it has to do with the rings at the end of the 1/4. The console insert is a TRS (3rings)which means it can send and receive audio. We only need to send out audio so we use the TS (2rings). So that adapter eliminates the “receiving” and turns it into just a sending channel. Lol hopefully that makes sense.
The makes a lot of sense! Thank you! I appreciate you brother!
@@ben2000music no problem man!
thank you my friend. the video is perfect. I managed to assimilate everything you said. I have two questions ... can I use the Behringer p16 with another personal mixer for example, Roland or aviom, or does it have to be exclusively from Behringer ??? and I can use the p16 directly on the personal mixer and link to each other without the need for a distributor like the one behind the drum ??
Enivaldo Xavier de Souza hey thanks! So I’m not sure if it can be used with another brand of personal mixer. I would say not because they have different amount inputs but honestly I’m not sure. Second you can go directly from the P16i straight into the personal mixer. I just have the distributor there to boost the Ethernet signal because it is a long distance from my mixer to the front of house.
thank you so much dude, blessings and take care♥
Glad I could help!
@@ourvoice7 to you, could you help me with something? So, i have a mpg24x and my inputA is for XLR instruments, my insert is for P16i, can i use input B for PREAMP? :/
@@sweetlillies I’m not too sure. Because the preamp needs a signal coming in to boost. What are you using the preamp for??
@@ourvoice7 :c to record on my computer.
@@sweetlillies oh yea no you cannot use that. It doesn’t send audio out. I’d recommend using the auxiliary channels. Just mix each channel to an auxiliary so that it’ll be one cord into your computer.
Thanks bro. Great info. God bless 🙏🏽
Glad I can help man!
Ok thank you for showing us this video I have a question when putting every channel in the mixer for the inter ear monitors does everyone have to use in ear monitor or can they still use the weg monitors we still have some that don't know if they like inter ear monitors yet
Michael Chandler so on the personal mixer there is an option for a 1/4” Line Out. I’m not sure if you can just plug a wedge straight in or if it needs to be powered with an amp then to the wedge. But yes you can use the wedge connected to the personal mixer! Hope that helps!
Thank you so much for the video sir! I plan to integrate this into my church when things open back up.
Question: why do you need the 1/4in TRS male/ 1/4in TS female adapter for the TS snake cables if they are already 1/4in?
So it’s Trs Ts conversion. If you just used the snake cable you wouldn’t get a stable signal. That I/O port is meant to send and receive signal at the same time. So plugging in that adapter eliminates the receiving signal and just sends. Hopefully that helps and sorry for the delay!!
He’s using insert in/out jack in the back the adapter is to cancel out the « in » part of the jack. If u had an balanced TRS channel output you wouldn’t need the adapter
So if I had a 16 channel snake that was TRS on both ends then I wouldn't need the adapters right? The inputs on the back of the behringer input module are balanced 1/4 TRS analog inputs, not TS.
Edit: I think I now understand. It looks as though you have a TRS snake here in the video. And the male part of your adapter is TRS, but the female part of your adapter is TS which essentially allows the output of audio through that cable but does not allow input through that same cable. Is this correct?
I’m little confused on why you added the adapter. So on one end of your snake is TS and the other is a TRS and that’s why you’re using the adapter right? So if I have a snake with a TRS end on both sides I wouldn’t need it, correct?
@@zbracing2335 use the Ts to connect from p16 to mixer not Trs . ts if you do not have direct out on mixer and you have only insert
Hello. Thank you so much for this video. You have made it possible for me to use in ear monitors with our church system! Thank you. I have a quick question, is your mix dry or do you have reverb or anything? I am a little concerned about the mix being too dry. Thank you in advance. May GOD bless you.
So definitely run the mix dry. I feel like having reverb can make it sound to mushy and busy. If you want that open sound I’d suggest using a room/crowd mic. This will make your mix in your ears more open. Glad I can help!!
@@ourvoice7 thank you. Do you have a talkback mic going? If so, how did you connect it? Also, is there a slight hum in your system?Thank you in advance.
@@Noble_01 I don’t have a talk back mic but it would be easy to set up. Just assigned it to a channel on the in ear monitor and for the main mixer just make sure you don’t turn on the channel and you should have a talk back mic.
So the hum means something isn’t connected right or one of your instruments may need a DI box to cut certain frequencies from that instrument. Turn everything off and go one by one to see which channel it is. If you can still hear the hum and everything is off it could be a cable issue.
@@ourvoice7 so have it on and lower it all the way in the main mix? Or mute it?
@@Noble_01 it shouldn’t have to be on, if no sound then turn on the channel and just lower the mix
Bro, how much did you invest in the entire setup? Adapters, the Personal mixers, snake, p16 and the switch behind the drums? How much in total? Im looking to invest and do the same at our church. I am from Belize. Blessings.
Alvaro Cunil blessings man! So everything in total was about $2500 USD. We ordered the equipment from a website called Sweetwater. I believe they have a bundle set with a lot of the equipment together.
why did you need an adapter for the io port? and did not just plugged straight in to the board using the snake? the snake cable looks like a stereo cable aswell... is because of the polarity? been wanting to do this set up for our iem at church aswell but for now we just get all our signal from the phones out from our old analog mixer
please can you write the steps on details here about connection only ? because there is something not clear from the video about connection
I have a question so I see you have the P 16 running for your input on the back of the board but how are you getting sound out? Those are not outlets, so how is it getting signal back to the P16 through that with a quarter inch connector is for
Will a TRS to TS snake work? Does the Behringer p16i need a TRS and the board a TS input? Or do they both need a TS input? Thanks!
i have the same question but he did not ans.................
Thanks brother for this video I saw the previous one a year ago,however this better.
Please iwanna ask why do use a TRS adapter for the 1/4 jack since its already a stereo jack.
Second ?...can I group tracks and take output from the group output.
Thanks.
Emeka from Nigeria.
Because that I/O port sends and receives audio signals, I only need to send signal so that adapter cancels the receiving ability. I need a mono signal not stereo. For the second question, what I would do is group the channels to an auxiliary channel. So let’s say you have 5 mics on a drum set, send those channels to an auxiliary channel. Instead of 5 separate channels you can have 1 channel from the auxiliary out. Hopefully that helps!
@@ourvoice7 why a mono signal?
@@jerryjcn because that I/O port sends and receives audio, I just need the sending part. Natural the signal will be mono. Sorry I should’ve clarified I bit more lol
@@ourvoice7 i can use both TS .do need to use TRs
I’m still a little confused like can you explain in depth like how you connect the drum mics, keyboard, guitar, and vocals mics to the speakers and the p16 in ear monitors
So all of our mic cables on stage (drums, mics, guitars) ago a cable snake to the side of stage. That snake runs all the way towards the back into a mixer. So like you mentioned, we need 2 audio output sources one for speakers and other to the in ears. For the speakers it just sending out the normal main speaker output of the mixer. Now for my mixer, I don’t have a separate audio out channel for each individual channel. But my mixer does have a I/O port which is meant to send audio signal out into an effects rack then back into the mixer with the same cable. And every single channel on my mixer has that I/O port. So what did what essential use that port to only send audio out, but instead connecting to an effects rack like intended, Im connecting to the p16 distribution box. That box converts the “analog” audio from that I/O port into a “digital” signal. Then from the distribution box I run a cable to the P16 in ears. It’s a bit complicated because my mixer sends out analog audio signal when the P16 requires digital signals. So this like a “hack “ if you can think like that lol Hope that helps!
@@ourvoice7 so in each channel, you have to connect 1 input cable from instrument, and 1 cable output from insert jack to the p16 distribution rack? So basically you put 2 sets of 16 snake cable?
@@dodolipretify eh not really. So you have one 16 channel snake and that snake is what connects from the mixer (using the insert I/O) ports into the p16 distribution. Yes you need an instrument cable from your instrument to the mixer. So in my case each channel on the mixer has 2 cables, 1 instrument cable providing the audio in then one of the 16 channel snake going into the p16 Distribution. Hopefully that answers your questions!
So would this also work with a smaller board? Using the power play p16 with a 12 or 16 channel?
You bet! There aren’t many channels on the p16 so you’ll get to use all of them! Although I have a 32 channel mixer the p16 doesn’t have the ability to use all the channels.
hello please can you make another video how to connect p 16 and the step in details ?
Hey I have a question how can I connect my in ear to the mixer ?
Which in ear are you using?
So without those black adaptors the snake won’t work ?
Correct. Because I’m using the I/O port. Because that port is meant to send and receive audio signal and I only need to send. So that adapter cancels the receiving ability. If you just put a regular 1/4 cable ( like from that white snake I’m using) you won’t get any signal. If you look on a cable they have those black rings around the tip. The I/O port is meant to receive the 3 ring tip and the 1/4 snake only had 2.
iceplaysmusic thanks man I’m trying to do this for my church we have a Allen&health sound board and it’s kind of similar to the board you have , it has inserts to
iceplaysmusic and it just says inserts instead of I/O is that different?
@@blairsanders9395 nope, thats the same port. It should work with those!
How maany auxillary out does your moxer have?
Thanks for the video do you just have one snake or do you need another one and to connect the mixer to the powerplsy 16 channel can it be xlr and xlr or does it have to be xlr and trs
And also would it work if it only said insert because I have the Yamaha mgp24x mixer digital/ anolong
Ok so to answer the first question I have one 16 channel snake from mixer to power play since the power play can only have 16 channels. The back of the power play is only ts so you can’t use xlr. And it will work with those inserts from your mixer!
@@ourvoice7 Do I leave the xlr cables on the mixer and just connect the trs cables to mixer and power play??
@@leviaguilar9419 so you need to leave the XLR connected cause that’s the one bringing in the sound. The “insert” port is made for if you have like an effects rack, so it’s able to send and receive sound. Leave the XLR and also use the insert port as well.
I have a question what if I only have 8 channels that has the I/O. Can I substitute it with something else?
Was is the insert port on the mixer you used
Hi.. Thank you for the video. May I know why do you have to use an trs adapter? since I'm seeing that your snake has already have trs adapter.
We have alse the same mixer and I can also that you use the I/O port to connect the powerplay which is I think that I/O can be used also to connect it to an audio interface and do multitrack recording. So I am thinking if it is it possible to use a splitter or Y cable connected to the I/O and the other end goes to the powerplay and the other end goes to the audio interface?
You would still need that adapter to work. So it would be the trs adapter then to a Y cable, which could then split into the power play and audio interface. It’ll just be a lot of cables you need to manage!
Can you give the names and description of the extra gadgets required I also have the same type of mixer and I've been trying to get personal monitor mixes
Check out the video again, also there is another older video that I posted that has the exact equipment I used!
I do have a question do you need the P16-1 and P16-D?
Hello. Thank you so much for this video. please i want to ask you ? if i connect behringer p 16 to direct output. did the gain of the mixer effect the volume that enter the p 16. for example if i decrease the volume from gain. did the gain effect the volume that enter to p 16 ?
If you do a direct output I believe it shouldn’t effect but I’m not sure.
@@ourvoice7 ok thank you
I'm late to the party, but we have a analog mixer and plan on staying with one because we dont have anyone to learn the digital board. With that said, we are looking to purchase a larger board and we're wondering can this work with the Behringer HA8000? Or have you a video on this already?
Mmm are you asking if the Behringer P16 will work with the HA8000?? Maybe I’m not understanding the question
@@ourvoice7 I may have said it wrong. We are wanting to purchase the Behringer HA8000 and we wanted to see if that IEM system would work with a analog board.
@@toledomovementchurch6614 oh yea it definitely will! You’ll just connect from an auxiliary out from the board into the HA8000 and you got some IEM 🙌🏼 just know that you will not be able to individualize what exactly you may hear but everyone will hear the same thing. But if the goal is to not use traditional stage monitors and use just headphones, that’ll work! Hopefully that helps!
If i am using the direct out ports, do I still need the adapters?
Hector Garcia nope, you’re all set! I’d just use a snake just to make sure all your wires and channels organized.
@@ourvoice7 what was the purpose of the adapters?
@@treniacaron3242 so that port is a TRS which means it sends out and receives the audio signal. I only need to send out the audio to the power play distributor so that’s what the adapter is for, to only enable sending out audio signal.
Hey bro! Thanks for the video. I am having trouble installing it. I don’t know what I am doing wrong. Because although I get the signal in the p16 but I lose signal of the main monitors
You’re main monitors should have its own Output channel with its own fader. What kind of mixer are you using?
does the mixer need to have 16 aux out???
Can you plug a p16 into a mixer without the powerplay
Johnny Mckenzie you need the p16 -i which convert the signal from analog to digital. But the p16d (the one I have on stage) is optional.
iceplaysmusic Thanks
@@ourvoice7 Im looking for this topic. So the powerplay can be directly plug in to the p16 even without the distributor you have on stage?
@@jaeccaturan6515 yes it can, I have it just because I have a long cable from my mixer to the power play and I don’t want lose the signal. But yea you do not need the distribution box.
Hey bro what type of earphones y’all use?
So I have custom ears from a company called 64 audio. If not we have just regular ones from a company called Westone. If you have the budget go for some custom in ears, if not I’d definitely look into the Sony ones which are pretty awesome.
Question: I'm a little confused cause I know the inserts is for if u have external processor if you want to put effects on particular channels, how is it that you got it to work as an output to the the powerplay
Exactly, so for the external processing you want to have audio going in then back into the main console. In this case I’m only using that port just as an audio out source. So that’s with the adapters and everything, I’m canceling the audio going In and just making it an audio out. Hopefully that helps the confusion!
Ok think I understand , but one other question is the control of audio Is that as you raised d gain on each channel it automatically sends or adjust the level of volume going to the powerplay? I have the same mixing console but I just use the auxiliaries and some headphones pre-amp.
But this way you did will come in handy when we do production and have more musicians on stage.
@@richardisaac3180 great question! So no if you raise the gain on the main console it doesn’t affect the volume of the in ears, remember that external audio port I’m using is raw audio straight from the source. Just make sure you have a good clean audio source from your mics and instruments.
brother clean the mixer dust cam damage the circuits overtime
OK....system up and running. Can I send reverb to vocals or is it totally pre-fader? I need some effects on the monitor if possible.....THanks!
It’s a prefader. So you’d have to get the audio out from the effects channels.
@@ourvoice7 Effect channels? Do you use effects in the monitors?
@@ourvoice7 Could I assign a vocal to a Group and send it?
@@tommyscalf8949 so I don’t use effects on mine, I run it dry just because then I feel it becomes too much with all the effects. But yea I would run the vocals in a group then send that out to the in ears. 🙌🏼
Okay so I read through all the comments but I have a couple of questions..
I have a behringer pmp6000. This mixer has 12 inserts. If I just bought a 16 channel snake with 8 on each side would I get all my channels in?
What do you mean by 8 on each side?
@@ourvoice7 Just solved my problem. I saw that the majority of 1/4 snakes online only had 8 on each end.
Would this work? Along with the adapters?
@@jerryjcn ahhh ok I understand now! So you wouldn't be able to have all the channels with only 8, you'd be short 4. But you can still use it like that!
@@jerryjcn and yes it should work with the adapters!
can it work on any analog mixer?
So if your mixer has a “Insert I/O” port, you can do it exactly like my setup. What you just need is so that every channel has an audio output, for on the personal mixer you can adjust individual channels
Hello 👋
To adjust the voices of the singers , I have the same mixer as you
Are you using the same in ear system?
@@ourvoice7 yes I am
So on the p16D there should be some faders to adjust the levels, that will raise the volume so on the personal mixers you won’t have to raise them so loud.
What kind of analog mixer do you use?
Emery Bryan it’s the Yamaha MG32/14fx. It’s old but gets the job done!
iceplaysmusic thx I’ll check it out because the behringer x32 is too expensive 😂
Emery Bryan they are! Sometimes you can find used ones not too pricey. I believe Yamaha has a similar newer version of the one I have. And it’s actually an analog/digital combo if I’m not mistaken lol
If i buy a trs snake on both ends will i still need the Adapters? Cause on the video your snake looks like a TRS
Yes you’ll need the adapters. I’m converting from TRS to TS so the snake is actually TS
@@ourvoice7 So if i understand correctly i m still a little new to this… doesn’t matter if i buy a TS or TRS snake i will still need the adapter?
@@ourvoice7 Hello, just wanted to share some information, i believe that on some mixers the insert can work as an out only if you connect a TRS tip just one click in or not fully in. I believe some of the old Mackie analog mixers have that feature, not sure if all mixers have that feature but It wouldn’t hurt to try on other mixers as well. Maybe that would eliminate the need for an adapter. Blessings to all.
Do you know how to connect wireless in ears into an anolog mixer?
which wireless ears do you have?
@@ourvoice7 Audio2000’s AWM630AU
@@leviaguilar9419 so are you planning on using all four wireless in ears?
@@ourvoice7 yes
@@leviaguilar9419 ok so plain and simple, you need to get the audio out from the mixer to the in ear receiver. The mixer should have an audio out. So you will connect that audio with an xlr cable into the in ear receiver labeled AF in. Then you can connect from the AF out into the next receiver AF in. Do that for all the recievers
Thank you for the video. One question; why do you need a stereo adapter for your snake cable that is already stereo?
Just to use the insert I/O port on the mixer. Because in this case Im not trying to use a stereo signal, but instead cancel the “audio in” ability from the insert I/O port. So imagine im converting a stereo signal into a mono signal. That’s the purpose of the adapter. To convert a 2 functioning port (the audio in and out) to just a 1 function port (the audio out). Hopefully that makes sense!
@@ourvoice7 i did not understand still. what you are using now TRS or TS ? you are connecting TRS to 1/4-inch TS Female to 1/4-inch TRS Male Adapter.?
@@ourvoice7 you are connecting TRS to 1/4-inch TS Female to 1/4-inch TRS Male Adapter.? right
@@peteryousef5177 ok. So using the insert I/O port has 2 functions. It sends audio out while also receiving audio in. Yes? Ok. So that’s why you need a TRS to use that port. Those cables have the right rings on the tips to allow the receiving and sending of audio. For the in ear monitors we only need the audio out function. Yes? Ok. But you just can’t insert a TR cable into that TRS port because the ring tips do not line up so you’ll get a dirty signal for your in ears. So then to make it a clean signal, that adapter converts from using that TRS port to a TS port. Does that make sense?
@@ourvoice7 i understand everything but there is somthing i did not understand it. you are connecting TS to 1/4-inch TS Female to 1/4-inch TRS Male Adapter.?
or
connecting TRS to 1/4-inch TS Female to 1/4-inch TRS Male Adapter.?