Volkswagen Passat GTE: Jack of all trades, but a master of any?
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2019
- The freshly revised Volkswagen Passat GTE combines a 1.4-litre turbocharged petrol engine with an electric motor to offer what on paper looks like it should be a great all-rounder. Rebecca Jackson puts it to the test in this CarGurus UK review to see if it lives up to expectations.
Written review: www.cargurus.co.uk/research/V...
Pros
Solid build quality - feels premium
Acres of boot space
Classless image
Cons
Not exactly an exotic choice
It's priced against premium rivals
Some question marks remain over reliability
The CarGurus verdict
The Passat unquestionably has its strengths. It’s comfortable, refined, easy to live with and not expensive to run. The slight snag is that its price has crept ever upwards, which pitches it against an array of very talented competition. A Passat with a few options or one of the better engine choices, as a case in point, can easily cost as much as a BMW 3 Series or Audi A4. Consequently, buyers who want a more accessible option might be put off, while those looking for a premium executive car might judge the Passat not attractive enough.
Some will also find alternatives such as the affordable and talented Skoda Superb far more practical due to the hatchback body style, which offers up a larger and more accommodating boot opening. If you can find a Passat that meets your requirements for a sensible price, however, you’ll get a high-quality, capable and relaxing car with an appealingly premium edge.
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The car uses only the 7%-93% charge level interval which ensures that the battery will still have 80% of energy storage capacity after 6000 recharge cycles (this is true for all Lithium batteries). That's over 16 years if you recharge it every single day of those 16 years.
So, after 8 years, the battery can still hold 90% of its initial charge.
I find that usable in real life.
13 kWh gross battery means a net 11 kWh for the 2019 model.
PS: I have a 2016 Passat GTE Variant. After almost 4 years, the battery capacity doesn't seem to have degraded in any noticeable manner.
I recharge it at work and I drive it in pure electric mode monday to friday (80% of the city driving). The car reports 5.5 L/100km for the last 2000 km (51.4 mpg(UK) and 42.9 mpg(US)).
Edit: When also charging at home at a 220V socket over the weekend, I get to do 99% of the city driving in electric mode. The car reports 4.2 L/100km for the last 1500 km (67.3 mpg(UK) and 56.0 mpg(US)). It has even reported a long term 2.9 L/100km (97.4 mpg(UK) and 81.1 mpg(US)).
In a very busy city it uses
* 25-30 kWh/100km in the summer with A/C on and normal driving (keeping up with the spirited driving of the other people). That's an electric range of 26-31 km for the 2016 model (16-19 miles). The best electric consumption I got was 19 kWh/100 km (a range of 41 km or 26 miles).
* 35-40 kWh/100km in the winter with A/C on and normal driving. That's an electric range of 19-22 km for the 2016 model (12-14 miles).
That's a greater distance than my daily run (home - kids to school - work - kids from school - home).
The 2016 model has a 9.9 kWh gross battery which means it can use 8.4 kWh.
For the 2019 model you need to multiply the ranges by 1.3.
I'm very pleased with the car. It's a gem. I do about 500 km (310 miles) in pure electric every month in the city so there aren't any bad smelling gases at the tailpipe in the city. Outside of the city, the hybrid system shuts off the engine whenever possible. But I still have 218 bhp when needed.
In a 200 km (125 mi) drive in hilly area, the car will drive 100 km (62 mi) with the engine completely turned off.
For an ICE car, the gasoline mpg and the bad smelling gases increase a lot in bad city traffic. In my town, a car with a similarly powered engine (like a Skoda Octavia VRS 220 bhp) can get 11-15 L/100 km (25.7-18.8 mpg UK or 21.4-15.7 mpg US).
My gasoline mpg gets better and better when the city traffic gets worse and worse.
On the highway, the car uses 7.5 L/100 km (37.7 mpg UK or 31.4 mpg US) at 130 km/h (81 mph).
The best ever consumption for a full tank was 3.6 L/100 km (78.5 mpg UK or 65.3 mpg US) when I drove a lot in the city for 7 weeks between refueling. I traveled for a total of 1265 km (786 miles) with 45.7 L (621 km in hybrid mode and 644 km in electric mode in the city).
The worst ever consumption for a full tank was 8.6 L/100 km (32.8 mpg UK or 27.3 mpg US) when the tank lasted me only 4 days in the mountains on a family holiday with a lot of GTE mode up the serpentine roads.
I find these values to be amazing for a 218 bhp gasoline car that's an estate and that is always carrying 3 or 4 people and their luggage.
-> Rebecca , to make it feel good when braking, I only use B-mode (one pedal driving) so when I need to press the brake pedal for extra stopping power, the car will also use the brakes besides the regenerative braking which it has always been using before pressing the pedal.
yah, i have a rav4 hybrid, the odd braking feel soon becomes second nature...and any car can feel sporty-it just depends on how enthusiasticly you throw it around corners...
and how many Km have you done so far?
@@corrado2ful I do around 400 km in pure electric mode per month which means around 5000 km in pure electric mode pear year.
Right now, the car shows a long term consumption value of 3.9 L / 100 km for the last 1500 km.
maereanm Do you charge once a day at home or also at work. I imagine switching to full electric at the beginning of a journey (when leaving home and thence again when leaving work) is most effective?
@@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs if the battery has over 1 kWh of energy left in it (out of the 8.5 kWh maximum usable amount), the car automatically starts in electric mode.
I currently recharge at home and my daily 14 km run would be less than the maximum 30-35 km of electric range. My employer still keeps the offices closed at this time.
Before the lockdown, if I ever had to do a trip at lunch time starting from work, I would also recharge at work when I came back in order to have the energy for the evening run (kids' school and then home).
I bought a 2020 passat gte advance; I have done 2300 miles. The comment on braking is true but not the end of the world. On battery i get low 30's in town and high 30's on longer distances. In buying the car I was hoping to do 50% on battery; at the moment its more like 90. I recharge from a standard 13 amp socket which takes 5 hours from drained. It has the low rolling resistance 50 psi tyres which are crashy over bumps but suspension is very supple. Turning circle is remarkably small and handling excellent. I have saloon which is still a good load carrier but boot height is quite low with battery pack. I think the estate is more practical. Seats are not as comfortable as previous mercedes GLA but I am mid 50's with bad back. Its not uncomfortable but for long journeys I will boost lumbar support with a cushion. Seat leather is good quality;. One failing is they seem to have replaced centre analogue clock with daft 'PASSAT' logo. Would recommend.
The estate version of the GTE has the same boot height as in the traditional passat (saw that in another review), so I don't think the battery affects the boot height in the saloon version either. In general the boot of the saloon version is just not really high though.
What is your real world mpg?
@@ReshamKainth Hi. So it depends. Firstly I was planning on running on battery only for 50 % of the time and in reality its more like 90% but of course thats because of my typical journeys. In two years I can say in mid summer I get 30 mile range and in worst of winter low 20's. Running in hybrid mode when I know I will exceed this around town a get around 100 mpg. When I visit family which is around 400 miles one way I get high 30's to low 40's depending on speed-. I have a GTE advance which has the clever planning which saves battery power and recuperates when it knows you will have some town driving in your route. This works incredibly well. This my first hybrid; it has convinced me this is the future. I look at my work colleagues buying big engine diesels and think its just daft.
Had a GTE saloon for 3 years. This review is pretty much spot on. Don’t expect bags of excitement. You do get an average 40-50mpg without ever wall charging. Great car.
It is a six speed dual clutch gearbox in the GTE.
Great Video Review as alaways
New sub here too! Glad to see u here! Love your reviews!
Just got one. It is amazing car for wafting along, so your totally right in your conclusion.
im here just to relax myself, rebecca's voice is so soothing 😊
Brilliant review 👍
I have one and as a daily driver its doing its job excellent
Nice review Beca, I am considering to buy used GTE Passat, its nice car but not so sure if I will go for it!
I like how she said @1:37 "it also allows VW to make significant CO2 savings in the official tests" :D
2.0 tdi BlueMotion here... Fantastic car! just beasted 200 miles and the level of comfort was sublime!
It's awesome to see in the new colour s
Great review Rebecca as usual.
How reliable is the Wireless Apple CarPlay ?
Can it tow a twin axle caravan around Europe especially Zaragoza in Spain ?
Car Gurus have a brilliant team of reviewers. The only real reviews I'm seeing lately.
Beauty... in black.
Stodgy? Stodgy? Give me a break! It is a quiet, efficient station wagon. Just a dag gone crying shame VeeDub does not sell it in USA. The Passat we get here is quite inferior to what you get in UK and Europe. The closest thing we had was the Golf Sportwagen, but it was never a hybrid in North America and now it is gone. You all in UK and Europe get a bunch of nifty VW models that we don't get in NA.
So I want a passet what’s a good one I want good fuel and speed is petrol hybrid the future? Or should I stay with a fuel only car
Amazing car and all the car you need
Shame about the 3 year warranty. That's crap these days.
I 'm switching from a VW Polo TDI to a Passat GTE. Now, I 'll have to borrow my brother 's Mazda MX-5 every time I 'll want to get a sportish ride😄
I wish we got the Passat Wagon (Estate) in the US. As good at the Tiguan and Atlas are, wagons are simple better
Great daily for sure !
You didn't mention one important fact ie what is the real world mpg/ running costs
look for my comment on the video.
I do like it.
It's quite nice
The Passat Commodious
whats the music at 0:21 ?
Shazam says it’s ‘Last Days’ by DidekBeats.
@@BionicRusty thank you for your help, but unfortunately it is not the same music
YTwatchy Sorry. Have to admit I’d didn’t listen. I just Shazamed it. ☹️
I’m all for eco friendly, but what happens when the lithium battery dies? A friend of mine has a Prius with the battery dead, parked and collecting leaves.
Battery on the Prius can be fixed under a grand. This however... Will be an omfg bill.
the car uses only the 10%-90% charge level interval which ensures that the battery will still have 80% of energy storage capacity after 6000 daily cycles (this is true for all Lithium batteries). That's over 16 years if you recharge it every single day of those 16 years.
so, after 8 years, the battery can still hold 90% of its initial charge.
I find that usable in real life.
PS: I have 2016 Passat GTE. After almost 4 years, the battery capacity doesn't seem to have degraded in any noticeable manner. I recharge it at work and I drive it in pure electric monday to friday.
Are you sure its a 7sp DSG ? @4:50
Passat GTE has a 6 speed DSG gearbox.
@@maereanm the 6speed is more unreliable, the mechatronic gives at 80k
@@dragospahontu no
@@louisbeerreviews8964 classic VAG, they can't build shit.
AISIN is king, this is why Peugeot, Volvo, and even VW used them.
Can it have a, towbar for a trailer
Yes
Heck yeah! I am buying one now!! 😎
The OG of hybrids Toyota will still be the best
Rebecca if the British Government want us drivers to be driving these so caled Eco friendly transports then they best get their act together and supply more refuelling points - as I live in a high rise buidling and I'd need at least a 130 foot cable length to charge any vehicle I chose to drive - totally impractical in high winds with cables blowing everywhere and endangering other modes ot transport plus walking personnel . So in saying that I'll stick to my recently purchased Ford Fiesta Active. Nice big boot on that car, be a good alternative to expensive Hotels on holidays, just sleep in the boot area. Thanks Rebecca for the insight .
Yes but I would rather they pump the cash in nextgen rapid ccs and chadamo either 150kw or 350kw for multiple reasons
😂 That's not how it works. An electrician would drop a line from your consumer unit down the maintenance riser to a charge point.
In case of a fire, put on some gloves and slide down your 130 ft cable. 🙄
I own a 2018 VW Golf GTE and it is a brilliant, next level car...with its silence, instant torque at low speeds, non or one pedal driving and adaptive cruise control... I guess the Passat GTE has some of the same virtues, just being to the more comfortable side....
I've got the 2018 Passat GTE Advance and I have to say it's a brilliant car.
Either this new model is underpowered compared to the old one and slower too, or the figures she's provided here are wrong?
Mine will easily do 0-60 in 5.7 seconds in GTE mode and handles easily as well as an A4 or similar sized car (I had a 2017 Mazda 6 sport before this which handled better, but I wouldn't say it was worlds apart) At the same time, the book speed is 7.2 seconds and is quoted from the regular mode with no electric performance boost?
Do you also find your GTE mode to deliver greater performance than the book quotes too?
The trouble is that it really isn't economical when driven like this 😁 so luckily I also greatly enjoy cruising around in silent all electric too.
S D I prefer my GTE to be powered by the electric engine only in the city and smaller trips. Until 60 km/h it is a rocket and very fun to drive. I love how I am pushed to the edge of the seat around corners and that is fast and effortlessly quiet at the same time...
@@sharkflower123 I don't do that much city driving as my daily commute is 12 miles of rural roads, but I absolutely agree. The electric motor has loads of instant shove from a standing start which is great for getting out safely into busy town and city traffic.
The only thing lacking is better electric only range.
Maybe a 100 mile range would be absolutely perfect paired with the same engine it currently has. It truly would be the best all around car with a petrol engine for backup or performance boost.
I Just bought a Passat ant it's GR8
I have a Golf GTE and you can “cure” the braking feel by leaving the car in B mode
Nice boots Rebecca...
Now thats a big boot.
Until you see the boot of a Skoda Superb, that is...
@@Innerspace100 very similar. Superb has a bit mor room in the second row of seating, but boot size is almost identical.
She didn't found the GTE button.
Calgary?
Flames?
Sure sounds good.
she's a stunning model, very nice!
The drivetrain is from 2014 and has a lot of problems. But at least you buy a premium brand who cares about the environment.
Can I get Rebecca Jackson in saloon or estate version?😂
@@adriandavies563 Is it possible to get a test drive and see how she handles?
Much prefer Rebecca to the car lol !!
You are very nice ,Rebecca
Repairs will not be cheap that’s for sure
What went wrong on your golf?
This car don´t have 7 speed but 6 speed!
WHY WHY WHY can't these Passats come to Canada!?!? I'm so Jealous!
or the US. Totally agree.
Are you serious?! In Europe these cars are notorious for being one of the most unreliable cars money can buy. Don't be fooled on the nice fit and finish on the outside and the clean cut lines. Underneath it's all fragile plastic that fails way under 100k (km) I've seen not 5 or 6 from these with failed timing chain at 65-70 000 km. Do a research please. Buy Lexus or Accord.
@@eleonik76 Lol are you high thats false ehat you just said in europe vw makes some of the most reliable cars and this has been voted to be the best hybrid car in Eu lol
S.T T. Who’s paying you?
@@eleonik76 not really
No banana.
While this design appears to be the best of both worlds, it's in fact the worst of both worlds... The weight is significantly higher, which won't allow for the best range when on conventional. The deterrent is not even that; it's the cold start of the conventional going to full power. This will shorten the life of the petrol motor by a large margin. Cheers!
Oh; same with all other manufacturers who offer this design...
It is 6 gear tho
@@louisbeerreviews8964 the 6dsg mechatronics let go at 80k km
Very nice review, shame about the car Rebecca.
Miniature human
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I still prefer the Škoda Superb, the interior looks so much better
Beter then super car blonde
Why don't they have this drive train in the arteon?!
That's actually a great question. I would definetely hace considered it. But now I ended up getting an Audi A5 instead. Any savings of the cheaper Arteon was devoured by the higher C02 emissions causing massive taxes here in Sweden.
The Arteon will get the PHEV with the latest Facelift and the Shooting Brake but there it will be called eHybrid and available as drive train in the different Lines (eg R-Line). I think it's supposed to hit the markets beginning 2021
Why is she so close to the wheel? 🤣
Passat jobbie
:)
I had a GTE Estate. Worst buying experience of my life. VW and their trashy service network - ohhhhh what an absolute disaster. I would not recommend this car. And the best bit is how the engine packs up when you’re overtaking Cold morning. Add that to their little shits in customer support laughing down the phone and there you have the worst ownership experience EVER!!
I could write a book on the shit service & attitude I’ve had to put up with from VW, people wouldn’t believe it 🤬
Just buy a Superb
It is not offered as a hybrid
I would not touch Petrol, or plug in....Diesel is miles ahead......
Boring car, for that money a Skoda Superb is much nicer!
Lol are you dumb
Eh. Skoda looks a bit more "interesting", but VW build quality is better. My dad went through 2 Superb iii and a Kodiaq, all of them had persistent rattles or squeaks that they could never fix. Also, Skoda has become very expensive in recent years...
This review it's one of the poorest Rebecca ever made.
270 Mpg....as if. This smells of dieselgate. 2:07 that face says is all.
Don't blame VW for the way the official figures are calculated. You'll see similar silly values for other PHEV's
@@Zalgol yep, if the car reaches 50km electric, the CO2 figure gets divided by 3.
That being said, I reach similar levels with mine with my driving profile and frequent recharging. I have driven 1200km since I bought it and am still half way on the first gas tank (50L capacity).
Underwhelming review 😒
Not for sale in the USA or Australia. Take my advice, buy a Tesla. These legacy car companies are just playing compliance games.
Ok boomer
Wow that looks like sht
Once Boris has sorted out the mess of Brexit we'll get way better cars for less money, so it's a no on this car.
:)) you're so gullible
@@andreid330 Not really, Boris and Donald will make it happen, British industry will skyrocket and we'll finally take back control..
😂🤣😂😂🤣
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Hahaha, Brits, start with getting proper dental hygiene and a sustainable energy system.