Using Aux Sends in Analog and Digital Mixers for Effects Loops
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You should also make a video tutorial on how to make a video tutorial. This is exactly what I needed but when I put a search on UA-cam, videos were like 45 minutes long and the guy just went on and on and on. Thank you so much for this nice concise video!
yeah, straight to the point video.
This is really helpful. It's funny how, as soon as somebody starts talking about these aspects of looping and patching etc--even super experienced and skilled guys--they just don't seem to know how to verbalize the logic clearly. I guess the loops make their brains loop. So it's nice that this fellow really knows how to make ir clear to the viewer. Nice job.
Wish I'd see this years ago. Fantastic explanation.
Thank you that really helped. I was trying to figure this out on my mixer. Thank you really appreciate it.
That's awesome! Thank you so much for this great video!
Many thanks for this explanation .
Thank you so much for this. Very clear explanation and easy to understand 👌👌👌👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹
Fantastic information - so well explained. Many thanks!!
simple and straight to the point! thanks!
Love it! Very well explained! Yhanks
You are a good teacher. Easy does it
Straight into it. Thankyou.
Great video! Since my Bugera BC 15 doesn't have an effect loop and no output I was planning to do the same trick. And here we are, great trick and glad I see it making it happening . Only one question , does it really 100% replacing an amp fx loop?
hi, first of all i am so thankful i came accross your channel!secondly i just got a soundcraft 16 analog console..but there is no insert jack for ext compressor etc,,so can i use this method?thirdly can i use any of the compressor left or right input ..i have fmr really nice compressor..thank u in adv
thanks for the valuable info!
TY for explaining! Is it also possible to not have original signal but only wet signal in sends?
Thank you.. your video is still essential...
T H A N K you for these videos... A W E some. I was looking for this for AGES!
Ha. Me, too - wasn't getting diddly from other 'experts', this guy came up with the solution. Thanks
Bravo! Thanks
Thanks very helpful
Thank you sir!
Thank you so much...
thanks for sharing your great knowledge and please tell me wich button knob you are using to control reverb on channels,,is AUX KNOB BUTTON OR GAIN KNOB BUTTON?
great explanation
Hey i just have one question. Does it have effect the entire channel of a mixer if i connect that in to left and right in the last channel of a mixer? Or it will not effect in other channel of a mixer like 1 2 and 3 channel if i just turn down the volume in aux channel 1 or 2 or 3?
Very good video. Would it be possible to connect a compressor in the same way through the Aux?
I was just reading a book today that described multi-effects processors. I'm guessing you could come out of the aux, go into the multi-effects processor and loop back to the mixer. The ME processor has reverb, delay, eq, and compressor.
i think this is just what i want! my mixer has a 'send' but no dedicated 'return'. many thanks! :-)
What is stereo aux return then?
Thanks!
I have some quetions. may i use that aux send to compressor limiter as a substitute audio processors?
I have two aux sends but one stereo return. Works fine with one efx going into mono return (efx comes out both speakers) but how can I use both efx sends and have both efx come out both speakers. Am I missing something? Like why would you have two sends with one return? I'm using a Yamaha 10/2 older model. Thanks
Hi! may i know from where you connect your inputs or what is the sources of your inputs? Thanks!
Incredible, you are a master, greetings from Nicaragua, Central America, I wanted to know how to connect an RC-300 to the 1202fx console and make all the channels LOOP, using the FX, but without losing the effects of the console, just bring the loop signal to the console, I don't know if I make myself understood, bring the loop pedal signal to the console, but continue using the effects of this same console, I would appreciate your help
After you sent the signals out of aux 1 to the effect in on the effect board and the last two cables you connected from the effect board out are they both came out of the put of the effect board or came out of one in and one out of the effect going back to the stereo return? I would appreciate it if you could comment back..
damn you are an awesome explainer / illuminator.
could u answer my question please would appreciate it very much & ive tried to find the answer everywhere ty.
my question is ive got a cheap plug & play mixer which i use for my playstation 4 console & my xlr mic at2035 but it has a aux send on the mixer could i send all my mixer sound out to my pc with it ??? if yes which port on my pc would i plug it into ?
Yes that would work. Remember to make sure your aux volume is turned to a suitable level. Likely send it to a mic input & mess around with audio setting in your laptop so it recognizes the audio. If you can't find a mic input you could use a USB audio adapter
(I use a Behringer U Control)
HTID.
what happens if you crank up the aux pot for two tracks at once? are you still able to have varying amount of reverb for the two tracks?
I use a single 1/4 inch stereo jack that has split
Left & Right 1/4 jacks on the other end. I:
1) Plug single stereo 1/4 jack into Insert on audio mixer
2) plug the left (white) into the FX INPUT
3) plug the Right (red) into the FX OUTPUT.
I do this to create an FX loop on a single channel. It works with my reverb guitar pedal.
can you please help me? I have the echo/Mic amplifier which has the echo effects only apply to the microphone slots. Meaning I can connect the microphone to one of the 2 Mic slots to get the echo. Can I connect the mono 1/4" jack from the Mixer to the the Mic slot on this Echo/Mic amplifier? Thanks a lot
@@BruceT-rg8bp No unfortunately. I believe it wouldn't work. It would sound very distorted if you connected it that way. What you want to look for is "Auxiliary in" for a much better result.
could the same thing be done except with guitar effects pedals? Or might there be a level / impedence mismatch?
how do you get the internal effects into the AUX send for a monitor mix? Our AUX mix is dry. We can't seem to figure it out on our Behringer XENYX X2442 which looks kind of similar to the one you're using here.
Thanks! What if i want reverb and delay effect pedals? Does my mixer need two aux sends for that?
If it doesnt you can connect the reverb TO the delay and then out to the mixer
Hi, thanks for your great video very helpful. Would you please help me?? I have a tc helicon mic mechanic2 (only 1 input 1 output both xlr) and a yamaha MG10xu mixer. Would i be able to achieve the same as in your video with this equipment? Grateful for any help best wishes Sean
Hi is there a way to connect the internal effects of one board into another board. I just want to use the effects of the board, and not plug any mics into that board.
can you please help me? I have the echo/Mic amplifier which has the echo effects only apply to the microphone slots. Meaning I have to connect the microphone to one of the 2 Mic slots to get the echo. Can I connect the mono 1/4" jack from the Mixer to the the Mic slot on this Echo/Mic amplifier? This way I can connect 4 MIc connected to the Mixer. Thanks a lot
Thanks for this tutorial. One more question, for anyone, really: Is it standard, or "acceptable" to use to different effects (types and levels) on different instruments. For example, say I use my Lexicon mx200 for some Plate Reverb on the vocal track, would it be too much of a conflict of signals to use the board's internal effects, say, on the drums and then use some external effects (like a Boss multi effects processor) for my guitar signal? I suppose the answer is that there really are no rules and it's largely trial and error, but any general rules of thumb that might shorten my learning curve are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I wanna ask why didn't he input the reverb unit directly connected to the (insert) ?
Do you have to use up a stereo mixer channel to return the signal or is here another way?
when your mixer has an fx send then it has a stereo aux return as wel.
Does Aux send cable needs to be stereo jack cable or mono is ok?
what is the name of the reverb unit? thanks. can you give me some examples of reverb units ?
this looks to be an old alesis microverb 4. fairly cheap these days, lots of lofi character.
Hi, thanks.
Why didnt you use the other "input" on the reverb unit? In other words, why did you only plug 1 cable on the reverb?
Isnt it that there are "R and L" inputs on the reverb unit?
The source channel was mono so there is no reason.
Griffin S isnt aux send a stereo channel with a TRS jack cable?
@@hedegaard8 No it's a mono send with a mono return.
@@griffin8062 Thanks Griffin for your prompt reply..
@@griffin8062 Do you mind if I ask a question? So - if I did want to send stereo to an effects loop I'd need two aux busses, and assign one channel left and one right?
I want to add more effects how do i do it?
What type of PL should i use is it balance or unbalanced?
Pretty much every video or forum i watch/read on how to do this is doing something wrong somewhere in explaining how to do this. I've been trying on both my mixers & no matter what I try It doesn't work when I follow the instructions in said video or forum post.
How would you send the reverb to monitors if the singer wanted it?
We can put equalizer?
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My question is: when you create an effect loop, how come there is no audio feedback screaming sound (like holding a mike near a loudspeaker)?
Hi, I'm not an expert, but I believe I can answer that one.
When you hold a mic to a loudspeaker the signal that the speaker is outputting is picked up directly by the mic and (presumably) amplified, which is then send to the speakers which sends it to the mic etc etc. Each time amplifying the amplified signal; creating a feedback loop.
When an effects loop is created the (let's keep it simple) mic sends it's signal (also presumably amplified) to both the main out and to the aux, the aux has an audio processor connected which adds an effect, and then sends the output to a *new* input. So while the effects loop causes a loop from the mixer to the mixer, it doesn't send the signal to the same input, thus no feedback.
I suspect that if the aux knob of 11/12 was turned up we _would_ get a feedback loop as the signal is picked up by 11/12, send to aux, processed, and then send back to 11/12.
@@tiaxanderson9725 Good explanation thanks for your help!
if the reverb unit was turned off, would the FX loop be sending dry signal back into the desk?
most likely not, but you can turn the reverb or effect all the way down and get a dry return
Yes but would it then be double volume dry? Like twice as loud? I'm having this problem with my desk.
@@sebwarren7918 Im not sure, but you may be right, ill head to the av room when i can to test (we have this same mixer)
thnx for shring.. bt i have a slight delay
Was the AUX send cable a TRS or an unbalanced TS? I see the return cables are TS.
Thanks in advance.
TS unbalanced is good for up to at least 15 feet of signal.
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@@hiiipower3005 I came looking for a serious answer and found this... ha ha.
@@hiiipower3005, silly?
this is the dude from the roland sp808 video tutorial!
I hope someone can help me out. I have 3 Alesis Microverb 4 procesors just like the one in the video. I can follow along with the video until the mixer connection names. Mine are labled different because my mixer is a Prostax 802-VLZ3. I just don't no where to plug from the processor. Can someone help me please? Thank you
I've been recording music myself for around 20 years. I mostly tried on purpose to use the bare minimum of effects on my instruments, except some distorted guitars, occasionally distortion on the bass, & maybe some subtle effects on vocals, but had to find other ways to do it.
So I haven't tried this at all until the last few years & here's the thing... No matter what video I watch, what forum I read, or whatever else I try, It doesn't work.
I've got 2 mixers I've tried this on & none of the videos I've watched will work with my aux or effect sends either.
(Even the manuals for both mixers explain how to do this & it just won't work.)
So I'd love to know this too.
If singer wants more effect on monitor how we send
Sanket Jarel by sending more of the unprocessed signal to the aux send..
how connect my carvin mixer carvin concert series 2444
Don't you get a double signal though?
Late reply but here's hoping this helps. :)
Although the signal strength overall is indeed increased, it all depends on just how much reverb you apply through the reverb pots. Although the FX returns are at unity gain, they only receive as much signal as you send to them through the AUX send pots. Add only a little reverb on the guitar and the overall mix is not going to be anywhere near doubled, louder by a bit, but not doubled. Add tons of reverb on every channel and you're going to have a very loud and messy mix. Maybe you want to cut out a lot of the dry signal, (original sound) and dump a lot of the wet signal, (the reverb sound) in for a wash of reverb while keeping the master levels in line? Who knows what's best for your taste, it's just as much an art as it is a science, it's all up to you on what you do.
Essentially, in the end it's up to the mixing engineer to make sure that the dry signal and wet signal are mixed so that the whole thing remains at a balanced and tasteful level.
Yup. Kinda figured. You've confirmed. Mucous Garcia.
This was helpful, but I'm trying to figure out what the difference is between using this method as opposed to just using the send/return on the mixer to the effect processor?
either way works, but feeding it back into a channel on the mixer gives you volume control for the reverb signal coming back in. You don't have to use this way, there's no other real benefit
This process let's you "eq" your effect signal if need be.
@@TheCinderDude Is the new reverb signal coming back in 100% wet? I guess it's interesting both volume channels are up....
Yes, mixing for dummies:). ...And on your second mini-sized mixingdesk the auxilairies seems to be transported under the eq on the channelstrip! Oh no, you're learning on a Mackie, the least common desk....Just like some idiots drive on the left side of the road:)From Mongolia i believe...
With the Yamaha signature 12 u can not plug in a separate reverb or delay unit u can run it threw but will have no control over each channel. The aux 123 have no effect so if u were to put your backs track threw they will have all the effects on from your separate reverb unit. So who even buy on becarfull
Where to buy a effects loop?
I bought me the Behringer 802 and paid 20 Euro. It was 2nd hand.
That doze not work with the sound craft signature 12
But I don't know but, Is that effect mono?
Rafael Santiago dual TS out , one for left and right channel. So no
_o _o yet only 1 input?
Normally people return the effects sound to the AUX Returns that sends the FX sound out the mains on the mixer Normally .
i do it as shown in the video , because we can send the reverb out of the same AUX 1 on the channel its coming back in on , giving us the option to make Analog FEEDBACK LOOPS.. a very power tool .. so be careful with this set up live ...
J-N-H-M I run it back to a channel also but only because I don't have aux returns.. I get a double signal tho which I can fix but would aux returns help me w that?
i don't have a 'return'!
I have two aux sends but one stereo return. Works fine with one efx going into mono return (efx comes out both speakers) but how can I use both efx sends and have both efx come out both speakers. Am I missing something? Like why would you have two sends with one return? I'm using a Yamaha 10/2 older model. Thanks for any help.
Cosmo Spacemonkey your desk will probably be setup to allow one “FX” aux and one “monitor” aux, as mentioned at the start of this video.
You could return your FX to any channel though; I prefer doing it that way as you can EQ, send to monitors, etc etc
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You can do this with the tascam model 16 as well?