I’ve said this from the first promotional video Traxxas released: It should come with the 540XL. The longer chassis needs the more torque. Glad somebody finally did it.
@@Bob38388 The Velineon 3500 spins up to a faster speed, but has less torque and tends to run very hot, while the 540XL is slower but makes up for that in torque and the fact that it runs cooler, so it can be geared up higher than the 3500. The 540XL is a 4S-capable motor and it would be a lot more effective in this truck
Dad has underrated skills. Kid has a very respectful attitude with a youthful personality. That’s a one two knockout combo guys. Thanks for great content!!!
I’m running the 540xl in my raptor with 24/50 gearing, and a sidewinder 8th esc on 3s, it launches like it was shot out of a cannon. 55mph and stays cool. Love the build videos, keep’em comin. Subscribed
Since it’s a lower kv it needs more voltage.. that’s why it’s slower! Need more voltage to reach maximum rpm , the 3500 kv may have a slightly high rpm ..
Agree , the motors are good and use 6.5 mm connections, just use a HW ESC , I have a max 8 pared with 2400kv in the maxx , idk how that motors still going . Now the fans bad and I’m running LMT monster truck wheels and overheated it a couple times .
@@buysncharge some people are traxxas all the way . I would always recommend hobbywing , amazing how good they are , I’ve used escs till the wire leads disintegrated . Now new ones are getting fancy and won’t last as long
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Go with a Hobbywing Max10sct esc(2s-4s) sensorless so you can use the 540xl motor on 4s.. I've run the vxl 3500kv on 4s and ran a full 5200mah battery thru it and didn't get too hot on stock gearing in our rustler 4wd and in my trx4 sport Mud truck
@3X7Outdoor GO with a Maxx Esc that 540xl will take 4s on stock gears if the vxl 3500kv will. Mines still running strong as ever and it's at least 4 years old and ran 4s for the last 2 years in my trx4 mud Monster
Good job guys!!! I just got the Raptor R and I roll over when I turn driving with 2S. After all upgrade you did is your Raptor roll over at high speed when you turn?
That rear differential you installed I had one in my slash 4x4 only I added 1 million fluid and a max8 system and she was the most fun I had with a Traxxas 🇬🇧
Great update to that truck to give it the R mode! The wheels and tires and body nice but the lights made it awesome a little more fine tuning sweet ride!🤔😉👍📹💯✔️👋👋👋
Nice build! Not only does the 540XL stay nice and cool, it also has tons more torque. Years ago before the 540XL came into existence, I swapped an MMX and a 2650kv into my Stampede 4x4. On 3S that thing was ballistic, it could hit 55mph with ease, and the motor stayed nice and cool without a heatsink or fan. I never felt the need to run 4S but I knew 70mph was in easy reach hehe. But it was overkill for the Stampede.
Informative video…..nice upgrades but I wouldn’t even mess with Traxxas electronics….get either castle or HW stuff…much better in quality and performance ..
Awesome video guys! ❤ Has made me buy a Ford body for my Slash and some road tyres, going to change it to a street basher this weekend (if body arrives). You made a gorgeous car, and made me jealous 😂❤❤
For the over heating issue all you needed to do was add the ESC cooling fan and a heatsink for the motor. Would cost about $35. FYI the Hoss and the Raptor both use the same ESC the only difference is the Hoss includes the fan. This thing is plenty fast on the stock electronics but hey it's your truck.
The bigger motor will run lower Kv, so you need more volts or atleast 8/9tooth up on the pinion. But grab a Hobbywing WP120BL & 3660 2700(ish) Kv and run it 4s. Itll absolutely fly
Should the shock shaft rebound all the way out? In theory should it not stay exactly where you leave it, after all the oil is just a resistance, my understanding is the shaft should only rebound out about 1/4 of the way which is caused by the air bubble inside of the rubber bladder in the top of the shock pushing it out slightly, I could be wrong I'm happy to learn. 👍
That kinda makes sense, articulation for crawlers and the need for the wheels to be in contact with the surface as much as possible when bashing, every day's a school day 👍
Based on the way that cross pin bent, I don’t think speed had anything to do with it. I’ve ran mine at similar speeds. What most likely happened was the pin was missing its e clip long before the failure.
I believe the reason you don’t see a big difference between the stock motor, esc and the Hoss motor, esc is you’re using the same lipo battery. The difference in motors is how they handle the power given to it. The VXL 3s is built to have max power on a 3s lipo while the Hoss setup is built to deliver its max power on 4s lipo and the Hoss setup might turn the same or little less rpm’s as the VXL 3s it makes a lot more torque which means it can handle a taller gear and not overheat.
The 540xl is a 2400kv motor where the standard vxl motor is 3500kv. You're losing about 30% of your rpm, which is why on the same/similar gearing it was much slower. The double bullet connector/adapters aren't helping any either.
I called traxxas because I had the same issue with the app and they said because of the newest smartphone update the app isn't working properly. They will have to come out with an update for the app
@@3X7Outdoor Indeed I will I will also help tune your ride Check out one great way to make your truck SUPER EXTRA BEEF One day I hope to see the Bodies on every continent. That’s my goal. Spread the goodness and make the hobby always that much h more fun. Can’t wait to see what you come up with. You’re definitely working hard on your truck. Good job guys 👍☺️👊😎
The 540XL is a 2400kv motor, vs the VXL-3S motor which is 3500kv. GEAR IT UP. I'm running the Maxx power system in my truck,. and an 18 tooth pinion. It's ridiculously fast on 4s, and just fast on 3s.
@@3X7Outdoor they make a 38t mod1 revo spur gear bolts right up its pretty small.. i ran that on my hcg slash with the center diff from a hoss if u wanna go even faster lol
If you want power, don't buy traxxas electronics, they're pretty weak. Throw in a castle 5700kv 540, then gear it down a bit to limit it to 50-60ish. This will give you way more torque and acceleration off the line. For a 5700kv you will want a heatsink with a cooling fan though, but it's worth it. Also get a high volt 3s lipo, rated at 11.4v. Gives a little more punch and wheel speed without being too much for 3s rated motors. Also traxxas drag slicks are honestly pretty bad, way too stiff and horrible traction. Proline super soft drag slicks give easily double the grip. Once you got the vehicle set up for high torque, you'll want that traction or you'll just spin out of control.
So based on this, I’m guessing your guys aren’t familiar with what KV means? Simply put, with motors it means RPM/Volt. Why? No clue. But that’s what it means. So of course the 540xl improperly geared wouldn’t match the stock motor. The reason the hoss can reach the speeds it can with a 14T pinion is because of the tires. They play a huge role in determining what gearing needs to be ran. Bigger tires are the same as a bigger pinion. To appropriately compensate for the kv you’d need a 19t, so 18t was pretty close.
@@3X7Outdoor no I still have them on my raptor if they do break imma go with XO-1 axles. I thought they would break after I hit about 80mph they still holding up. Tough lil truck
Would not of chosen traxxas motor or electronics to replace it with that's for sure. And please save the word "Insane" for the yougoober algorithm chasers.
@@3X7Outdoor for one, the reason your shock rebounds when you depress it in without a spring is because it’s full of air. Every shock I’ve ever built and watched being built, you’ve got to bleed the air out. Loosen the cap just past the oring or if it’s got a bleeder screw, use that, but you have to depress the shaft all the way in. Bleed out the air and any excess oil. While holding the shaft in, tighten the cap down. If it wont tighten all the way down, it’s still got too much oil and or air. It may take a few times doing this. But you’ve got to bleed the air out. No shock should rebound like that especially if there isn’t a spring on it. When you’ve got it set up perfectly, you should be able to depress the shaft all the way into the shock body, that’s called a “dead shock” and that’s exactly what you’re looking for. The springs are what gives you your rebound, not the air trapped inside the body. Oil weights and pistons are what give you your dampening. All that air in a shock will blow it seals. It’s sad that a traxxas rep told you that’s how you set up a shock. Bad information.
Your problem is the electronics is the problem. Traxxas electronics are trash. Put your a hobbywing max8 combo in there and it’ll move like nothin you’ve drove before
I’ve said this from the first promotional video Traxxas released: It should come with the 540XL. The longer chassis needs the more torque. Glad somebody finally did it.
ikr! so awesome
Glad you enjoyed the video!
How much of a difference are the two motors?
@@Bob38388 The Velineon 3500 spins up to a faster speed, but has less torque and tends to run very hot, while the 540XL is slower but makes up for that in torque and the fact that it runs cooler, so it can be geared up higher than the 3500. The 540XL is a 4S-capable motor and it would be a lot more effective in this truck
@@falcondragonslayer ok thanks so much!! I’m thinking about buying the 3500 for my slash 2wd. Do you think that it work well in it?
Dad has underrated skills. Kid has a very respectful attitude with a youthful personality. That’s a one two knockout combo guys. Thanks for great content!!!
any time! ❤️
Guys, this is probably one of the best videos i've seen on this truck. Awesome video lads. Cheers. 🍻
thanks for the good review!
Yea thats a top truck & its great to see you both working its upgrades 👍🏻
What size Mackey Thompson tires?
the same ones that come on the drag slash, 105x57mm
Thank you guys !Really enjoying watching your videos!
thank you for watching 🙏!
I’m running the 540xl in my raptor with 24/50 gearing, and a sidewinder 8th esc on 3s, it launches like it was shot out of a cannon. 55mph and stays cool.
Love the build videos, keep’em comin. Subscribed
awesome! 👏
Such a better system. Great job guys!👍
Thanks so much!
I was WAITING for someone to do this! Awesome!! ❤
Glad you enjoyed it! 🎉
Oh man, that body and those slicks look sick! Great job, guys!
Thanks a ton!
2:45 we don’t need those😂
I feel that, I never read instructions 😂
😂 instructions are for babies
Great job father and son duo 💯👌
thank you bro 🔥
Since it’s a lower kv it needs more voltage.. that’s why it’s slower! Need more voltage to reach maximum rpm , the 3500 kv may have a slightly high rpm ..
coming soon..
Please buy a couple rolls of heat shrink that’s the only thing that worries me about the building
lol
Comment down below what YOU think of this build! 👇
Skip Traxxas brand electronics if you're looking to go fast. Buy something like HW
Agree , the motors are good and use 6.5 mm connections, just use a HW ESC , I have a max 8 pared with 2400kv in the maxx , idk how that motors still going . Now the fans bad and I’m running LMT monster truck wheels and overheated it a couple times .
@@buysncharge some people are traxxas all the way . I would always recommend hobbywing , amazing how good they are , I’ve used escs till the wire leads disintegrated . Now new ones are getting fancy and won’t last as long
are you sure you're not in beginner mode? because my Rusler 4x4 will do 56 on 17t pinon
@@tracebrink6970 they had a bad battery 😂
The whole entire thing was absolutely perfect!!!! I watch RC videos everyday and this was my first video I watched from you guys and I enjoyed your video just as much if not more than any of the big huge channels out there!! Great combination of info and footage. Really impressed absolutely love your channel. Definitely subscribed and I will be watching all new videos, thanks guys🤙🤙🤙
so glad to hear it! we won't dissapoint!
Go with a Hobbywing Max10sct esc(2s-4s) sensorless so you can use the 540xl motor on 4s.. I've run the vxl 3500kv on 4s and ran a full 5200mah battery thru it and didn't get too hot on stock gearing in our rustler 4wd and in my trx4 sport Mud truck
trying to keep it all traxxas 🔥
@3X7Outdoor GO with a Maxx Esc that 540xl will take 4s on stock gears if the vxl 3500kv will. Mines still running strong as ever and it's at least 4 years old and ran 4s for the last 2 years in my trx4 mud Monster
stay tuned ..
@@JoesRcAdventureswhich gears with the maxx esc and 540xl? The same 13/54? Or did you mean stock gears on the 540xl on the maxx?
I just put the black edition R in layaway and I haven't done anything and already want to have these upgrades done. Yiiikes 😂
Good job guys!!! I just got the Raptor R and I roll over when I turn driving with 2S. After all upgrade you did is your Raptor roll over at high speed when you turn?
That rear differential you installed I had one in my slash 4x4 only I added 1 million fluid and a max8 system and she was the most fun I had with a Traxxas 🇬🇧
good to know! 🔥
Was hoping that was the track's new release for this year. Good job, guys.👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
2024 coming in hot! 🥵
Great update to that truck to give it the R mode! The wheels and tires and body nice but the lights made it awesome a little more fine tuning sweet ride!🤔😉👍📹💯✔️👋👋👋
Right on! thanks for watching!! 🔥
Nice build! Not only does the 540XL stay nice and cool, it also has tons more torque.
Years ago before the 540XL came into existence, I swapped an MMX and a 2650kv into my Stampede 4x4. On 3S that thing was ballistic, it could hit 55mph with ease, and the motor stayed nice and cool without a heatsink or fan. I never felt the need to run 4S but I knew 70mph was in easy reach hehe. But it was overkill for the Stampede.
ahah that sounds sick! 🔥
You are missing the sorted sensor magnet and the temp sensor for the tqi system. That’s why you aren’t getting those readings from the app.
no, the entire app wasn't working
Awesome job guys came out very nice 👍🏽 🤩
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video look forward to seeing what you do next.
More to come!
Were you filming on a motorcycle?? jokes aside, great video fellas 🔥
i was indeed on a motorcycle 😂
Informative video…..nice upgrades but I wouldn’t even mess with Traxxas electronics….get either castle or HW stuff…much better in quality and performance ..
The hoss esc is identical aside from bullets
Are you using a 2s or 3s because my raptor on 3s hit like 64 mph out the box with the obvious engine overheating......thx traxas
we are on 3s. not sure why yours is so fast! 💨
Always paint the under shell black ...gives a more realistic look
Awesome video guys! ❤
Has made me buy a Ford body for my Slash and some road tyres, going to change it to a street basher this weekend (if body arrives).
You made a gorgeous car, and made me jealous 😂❤❤
awesome bro!! send us a picture of it when it's done and we'll mention it on our community tab! 3x7outdoor@gmail.com
9:58 professional mounting system 😂😂😂
blu duck tape
For the over heating issue all you needed to do was add the ESC cooling fan and a heatsink for the motor. Would cost about $35. FYI the Hoss and the Raptor both use the same ESC the only difference is the Hoss includes the fan. This thing is plenty fast on the stock electronics but hey it's your truck.
problem is, the cooling fan and heat sink didn't work.
That stinks. Mine work fine and I live in Texas.@@3X7Outdoor
Great Vid
Nice
Thanks
What was the top speed with the new set up ?
60mph
GMA Laurie here. Looking for a battery. Sharing with wildman...
Our Grandson.
what spare part number is on the basket?
not sure what you mean by the basket
body number??
for the body we used, it's part number 10111
The bigger motor will run lower Kv, so you need more volts or atleast 8/9tooth up on the pinion.
But grab a Hobbywing WP120BL & 3660 2700(ish) Kv and run it 4s. Itll absolutely fly
we're thinking about it...
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thanks
You guys were a little funnier on your older videos loved your dad’s sense of humor. Good build
just depends on when we decide to crack a joke
lower kv motor, and shorter tires than the hoss, i wonder why its slower.
Should the shock shaft rebound all the way out? In theory should it not stay exactly where you leave it, after all the oil is just a resistance, my understanding is the shaft should only rebound out about 1/4 of the way which is caused by the air bubble inside of the rubber bladder in the top of the shock pushing it out slightly, I could be wrong I'm happy to learn. 👍
i learned this method from a traxxas rep. All my life, my method has been "crawler shock shafts stay in, basher shock shafts push out."
That kinda makes sense, articulation for crawlers and the need for the wheels to be in contact with the surface as much as possible when bashing, every day's a school day 👍
Anyone know if racing these in regular 1/10 short course is allowed? Online it boldly states 1/10 scale
yep! same category as your regular stadium truck slash
Wash it with dawn dish soap and use the green side of a house spunge to ruff up the plastic you won’t get fish eyes
didn't work for us!
Nice job y'all.
Thank you!
this is so cool! ❤
❤️
Great video!
appreciate your comment!
The Hoss also has giant tyres, the Raptor ones are much smaller so I'm not surprised you had to fit a larger pinion.
true!
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Nice bike
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Didn’t realize all were also from Minnesota!
sure are!
So you went from a VXL to an XL
What's the KV on the XL I know the VXL is 3500
2400
@@3X7Outdoor Thank you
no problem!
amazing!
Thank you! Cheers!
You have to buy the $140 part that goes into the truck that links to the Bluetooth in the controller to show your speed...
nope. it's a link module that directly connects to your phone. We've had it work numerous times before and not sure why it doesn't work now.
Based on the way that cross pin bent, I don’t think speed had anything to do with it. I’ve ran mine at similar speeds. What most likely happened was the pin was missing its e clip long before the failure.
I live in Minnesota as well. Where is your favorite Traxxas dealer?
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I believe the reason you don’t see a big difference between the stock motor, esc and the Hoss motor, esc is you’re using the same lipo battery. The difference in motors is how they handle the power given to it. The VXL 3s is built to have max power on a 3s lipo while the Hoss setup is built to deliver its max power on 4s lipo and the Hoss setup might turn the same or little less rpm’s as the VXL 3s it makes a lot more torque which means it can handle a taller gear and not overheat.
you might stay tuned for the next video if you want to see it on 4s ..
the 540 motor is for torque in bigger tires you need a bigger pinion and a smaller spur
Just a heads up. You are supposed to scuff the inside of the body before you paint it.
its optional
The 540xl is a 2400kv motor where the standard vxl motor is 3500kv. You're losing about 30% of your rpm, which is why on the same/similar gearing it was much slower. The double bullet connector/adapters aren't helping any either.
thanks for the advice! (everyone wanted this motor in it)
The 540XL is a 2400KV motor. The stock system is 3500kv. You need to adjust your gearing.
the gearing is adjusted like crazy!
I called traxxas because I had the same issue with the app and they said because of the newest smartphone update the app isn't working properly. They will have to come out with an update for the app
good to know 👍
Nice exper.. but damn phone good luck
thank you!
The motor out of the Maxx 1/10 will run 6 cell
Just get a 6s esc
Bam done fast and loads of torque
stay tuned!
@@3X7Outdoor
Indeed I will
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One day I hope to see the Bodies on every continent. That’s my goal. Spread the goodness and make the hobby always that much h more fun.
Can’t wait to see what you come up with. You’re definitely working hard on your truck.
Good job guys 👍☺️👊😎
thank you bro 🔥🔥
@@3X7Outdoor
Thank you Brother 👊😎
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@ 2:55 you do not want this much rebound. Way to much. The shaft should come out 1/4 -1/3 of its travel.
Torque biasing center drive is just marketing speech for a plain and simple center differential
lol 😂
The 540XL is a 2400kv motor, vs the VXL-3S motor which is 3500kv. GEAR IT UP. I'm running the Maxx power system in my truck,. and an 18 tooth pinion. It's ridiculously fast on 4s, and just fast on 3s.
stay tuned.. 🔥
Which spur?
The 540XL is 2400kv vs. The stock motor is 3500kv. Gear up the 2400kv to get more speed.
right on!
Should both the spur gear and pinion gear get sized up? or the pinion gear bigger while the spur gear smaller?
Get a pinion with more teeth. Probably around a 17 tooth. If you still want more speed, you can go to a 50 spur gear ⚙️
That stock motor is 3300kv hoss motor has a lower kv then stock..u need a 20t pinion
is 27 enough?? 😂
@@3X7Outdoor to much lol
never too much powa
@@3X7Outdoor they make a 38t mod1 revo spur gear bolts right up its pretty small.. i ran that on my hcg slash with the center diff from a hoss if u wanna go even faster lol
Get like 24t mod1 pinion lol
If you want power, don't buy traxxas electronics, they're pretty weak. Throw in a castle 5700kv 540, then gear it down a bit to limit it to 50-60ish. This will give you way more torque and acceleration off the line. For a 5700kv you will want a heatsink with a cooling fan though, but it's worth it. Also get a high volt 3s lipo, rated at 11.4v. Gives a little more punch and wheel speed without being too much for 3s rated motors. Also traxxas drag slicks are honestly pretty bad, way too stiff and horrible traction. Proline super soft drag slicks give easily double the grip. Once you got the vehicle set up for high torque, you'll want that traction or you'll just spin out of control.
My comment IS O k good all right. Nice Thought it should have came that way.
But with a fan on the motor
Fair enough! Great point!
The hoss motor it 4s capable run 4s and you will see a big difference
soon..
Now give it the maxx esc 4s
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I live in MN
cool!
@@3X7Outdoorwhere at do you live
MN
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put a gyro !!!
haha maybe!
@@3X7Outdoor you will have 10 HP more!!! 🤣
So based on this, I’m guessing your guys aren’t familiar with what KV means? Simply put, with motors it means RPM/Volt. Why? No clue. But that’s what it means. So of course the 540xl improperly geared wouldn’t match the stock motor. The reason the hoss can reach the speeds it can with a 14T pinion is because of the tires. They play a huge role in determining what gearing needs to be ran. Bigger tires are the same as a bigger pinion. To appropriately compensate for the kv you’d need a 19t, so 18t was pretty close.
No need to change the axles I’m running 90mph on the stock traxxas raptor r axles
i mean it broke, didn't it?
@@3X7Outdoor no I still have them on my raptor if they do break imma go with XO-1 axles. I thought they would break after I hit about 80mph they still holding up. Tough lil truck
haha i mean ours, they broke going fast lol
Kv is rpm per volt so obviously it will go slower you dropped 1100 rpm😂
that's why it's geared up!
Would not of chosen traxxas motor or electronics to replace it with that's for sure. And please save the word "Insane" for the yougoober algorithm chasers.
woah woah woah first amendment pal
I am in pain
That’s not how you build shocks. At all.
how would you do it? i learned my method from a Traxxas Rep.
@@3X7Outdoor for one, the reason your shock rebounds when you depress it in without a spring is because it’s full of air. Every shock I’ve ever built and watched being built, you’ve got to bleed the air out. Loosen the cap just past the oring or if it’s got a bleeder screw, use that, but you have to depress the shaft all the way in. Bleed out the air and any excess oil. While holding the shaft in, tighten the cap down. If it wont tighten all the way down, it’s still got too much oil and or air. It may take a few times doing this. But you’ve got to bleed the air out. No shock should rebound like that especially if there isn’t a spring on it. When you’ve got it set up perfectly, you should be able to depress the shaft all the way into the shock body, that’s called a “dead shock” and that’s exactly what you’re looking for. The springs are what gives you your rebound, not the air trapped inside the body. Oil weights and pistons are what give you your dampening. All that air in a shock will blow it seals. It’s sad that a traxxas rep told you that’s how you set up a shock. Bad information.
Your problem is the electronics is the problem. Traxxas electronics are trash. Put your a hobbywing max8 combo in there and it’ll move like nothin you’ve drove before
Way to destroy a truck. Who takes a truck and makes it into a drag car? Why. Just not impressed with the changes nor the paint
First thing i do away with on traxxas is tgere electronics they are mediocre at best
many people seem to think so
Nice
Thanks