This 1999 Digital Camera Uses Tiny Clik Disks! Agfa CL30
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Checking out the world's first (and only) digital camera using Iomega Clik disks for storage! Each disk held 40MB and cost just $10, a tenth the price of CompactFlash. Quite impressive in 1999! But this odd diversion in the late 90s digicam market was short lived, and its impact on digital photography is... well, no one remembers it. But it sure was neat!
● LGR links:
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● An album of photographs taken with the CL30 and PDC-1100:
imgur.com/gallery/fariI8t
00:00 You ever had a Clik disk camera?
01:03 Clik versus Compact Flash
02:29 Agfa and their digicam licensing
03:48 Unboxing the CL30 Clik!
05:12 Looking at the camera itself
08:36 It's half-dead... so is my other one
09:40 Taking pictures, adjusting settings
10:45 CL30 photo examples
13:10 Downscaling, interpolation, comparisons
15:05 Windows 95 PhotoWise software
15:35 A forgotten failure, still kinda neat!
#LGR #retro #photography #camera #digital - Наука та технологія
Please don’t ever stop reviewing weird cameras
I hope to keep finding fascinating ones to review! These really are a lotta fun to cover.
@@LGR been an avid fan for nearly ten years and the camera reviews scratch a special itch for me 🙏
@@LGR Does changing to full resolution "blindly" work?
@@LGR@LGR There's a camera I'd like to get to know your thoughts on. It's a Vivitar Vivicam 3750 from 2004. I have one myself and while it looks and functions like a cheap & slow camera (because it is one), the photos it takes are similarly unpredictable and look uncannily similar to slide film (only funnier). I mean, you have to try one out for yourself. I think you'll get a kick out of it with the absolutely barbarian CMOS sensor they put in it.
@@LGRhow do I get in touch with you if I want to send you a tape drive with two tapes that I found at my grandma's attic?
R.I.P Smiling dude and tiger 😢, we will all miss you seeing in questionable resolutions
Even "high end" camera brands like Leica participate in cross-branding shenanigans. The prestige of a manufacturer's brand sometimes stops right at the adhesive holding it on the camera.
My step dad is a big Leica aficionado and for YEARS wouldn't believe me that those Leica point and shoot digitals were Panasonics with a different logo
@@reginalb124 It's one of those important 'loss of innocence' teachable moments, eh?
@@zippydastrange Mo' white labelling == mo' profits! Stonks go 📈
In an age where everything comes off the same conveyor belts in Shenzhen, or Bangladesh, or Mexico, or wherever, names such as Leica or Sony, etc. mean very little. You may as well buy Lidl own brand or whatever the American equivalent is.
I lost all respect to brands Leica, Hasselblad when they decide to collaborate with Chinese.
Also the idea of a disc holding 300+ photos still sounded HUGE back in the 90s. Most people used analog cameras with film that took 24 photos at a time.
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Honestly Clik Disks just looked so cool. They really nailed the sci-fi looking storage device aesthetic with it, almost reminds me of seeing MiniDiscs used for data in The Matrix, just looked cool. Of course neither were sci-fi but that transition period when the floppy disk was stone age tech yet burning a CD was too much hassle had a bunch of products that seemed so cool despite their obvious flaws.
Check out the Sony DCM-M1. A camcorder that recorded on MiniDisc.
I loved the idea of clik, but never bought one. And I owned things like LS-120. Ah well.
Hey, floppies where at least iron age, using punchcards and punched tape would be stone age, tape would be bronze age.
And now suddenly i want a digicam using punched tape. 😅
Don't forget the IBM Microdrive. A tiny hard disk in a CompactFlash form factor which you use in any camera which accepted CF cards (and could cope with the insane amount of storage space, like 170MB or 340MB). Came out in 1998, price was $500 in 1999. Capacity continued to increased (4GB in 2004 for $500, dropping to $200 in 2005, then 6GB in 2006 for $130). Biggest drive had 16GB, but that was when comparable flash CF cards had become too cheap already.
The iPod mini used 4GB and 6GB Microdrives. Thanks to the CF card compatibility, it was possible to replace the Microdrive with much larger (and enegery-efficient) flash CF cards when these became available many years later.
Reminds me of old 90s animé!
Would love to see this camera make its way to one of the many YT repair channels.
I'd be happy to send it off to one willing to tackle the project!
@@LGRMaybe The 8-Bit Guy could be the one to do it?
@@teh_supar_hackr not with how he handled that IBM prototype
@@newrecs4969 Maybe Adrian can fix it in his digital basement. Or Shelby from Tech Tangents.
@@needfuldoer4531 oh adrian would get that thing fixed up in no time!
The photos looked surprisingly good! There is something aesthetically pleasing about the wonky images from early digital cameras.
Can we appreciate how much Clint improved his photography work? Also this camera aesthetic is amazing
Well thanks, I try my best 😊
I was coming to say the exact same thing. This video looks great Clint.
I remember on your clik drive review you mentioned cameras that took it. I’m so happy to see you finally review it!
Heck yeah, this has been on my Want-To-Cover list for a very long time :)
I love these old digital camera reviews. The photos gives me nostalgic vibes, as my mother used one of these digital cameras for Christmas at my grandpas place. So all our old album photos have the same early digital camera look to them.
The picture quality is actually not bad! Despite its artifacts and compression, the colors are not odd. Still useful today for a 10 year old to run around.
CCD sensors generally have better colours than CMOS sensors, they just had really bad low light performance as the sensors are so tiny
Would have been handy. I let my 4 year old run around with a nice canon point and shoot. It is in pieces now. 😊
If it didn't take nearly a minute to turn on, that is
@@danielanderson9400 Additionally they suffer horrifically if there is bright light in screen.
honestly the photos that camera took are amazing, especially since its all default settings
I had the Polaroid PDC 1100 as a kid and I loved it. It ate batteries and took 20-30 minutes to transfer a dozen photos over serial, but it was magic. Emailing a photo or two on a trip, dialing up from a hotel landline on my Compaq laptop.
Even with those slow speeds it was Sci-Fi stuff compared to film cameras that were still around
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My first digital camera was the HP version of the PDC1100 - it was virtually identical, with the transflective icon display above the color LCD display.
Same - Photosmart C215 it would eat batteries. So glad mine got stolen.
That's one I didn't run across, but yeah it's the same thing indeed! Fascinating how many companies ended up licensing the same Taiwanese OEM design.
I had the photosmart as well, I remember it was over $500, below a megapixel and ate batteries. You could use the very expensive Rayovac rechargeables but they lasted even shorter than alkalines.
@@mrfrenzy. I ran mine on rechargeables and they lasted much longer than alkalines
@@mrfrenzy. it was hellishly overpriced. There was the older C200 at 1MP with serial connectivity and the C215 boasting USB 1.0 and 1.3megapixels (1280x960). I paid an equally insane price for the power adapter and always used the camera while plugged in. Much was my joy when it was stolen in 2003 and I bought a Canon A40.
The problem you're likely facing with these cameras is the same problem that plagued many early digital cameras: loose connectors. The one that takes vomit-colored pictures likely has a connection issue with the CCD; the other one likely the connector to the LCDs. They were selling cutting edge technology in cost-cutting enclosures for devices meant to be carried around, so many just wore out, but after a few years, they were already wildly out of date. I remember it only took a few years to go from 1MP to 20MP.
Yup I started with the digital cameras like Sony Cybershot in 1999, then got into getting a new one every few years ~3 because you could not beat the resolution and storage upgrades that you could buy into with the next model, made keeping up with cameras a has been even all my professional ones were done for by 2010.. then came the smartphone race and the cameras, storage, resolution.. on the fly filtering.. wow.. taking pic tech has not slowed down in the past 20 years.. that is for sure. LOL.
@@onetox6003 I was a Canon PowerShot guy. My 2MP was stolen, so I basically replaced it with the slightly newer version that had 8MP. Replaced that with a 16MP.
@@ethanpschwartz I have about three digital cameras. Two canons powershot and ELPH, the other is fujifilm. The powershot has issues with AA cells (alkaline or NiMH, sees new batteries as "dead" at random), so I use lithium primary cells. Still great cameras regardless.
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Just the joyous meaningless i needed on a Saturday evening.
Thanks for excellent content! Love your videos, brining me so much nostalgia...
evening? it's just afternoon
@@Connie_TinuityError It may blow your mind to realise: It's literally always evening somewhere ... just like it's always 5 o'clock somewhere. Not everyone lives in your time zone.
@@halfsourlizard9319Yeah, it's technicly morning where I live right now...
@@Connie_TinuityError afternoon? It's mid morning!
You must be crazy to say this is "ok digital photos from 99", it's the best photos I seen from a consumer camera from that era!
Compared to my other similarly-specced digital cameras from late 1999/early 2000 it's nothing too special! Definitely solid results for its price range at the time, but really on-par with others with similar specs. It's the lower-end 1999 cameras that look like garbage in comparison :)
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I always forget that you're a very talented photographer. Keep em coming Clint we love ya
I'm sure he has learned a lot from his younger brother. He's a photographer iirc.
Thanks to my dad I fell down the zip drive rabbit hole when it came out. Much like him, I thought they were the future. So of course I wanted one of these when they came out!
Fun fact: dad also thought beta max was the future 😂
i'm obsessed with "almost good" CCD sensors and this camera is squarely in that realm. loved all the pics, and such a neat camera for 1999
Great video Clint. This one felt to have a much higher production value, from the B Roll to the music, it felt really fresh.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
I still remember when my grandmother came to visit me for my highschool graduation. She took me to Best Buy the night before graduation to get my employee discount on a new printer and she bought me my first digital camera. What an incredible experience that was. It wasn't the greatest camera of all time, but I took so many pictures with it.
What year was that?
@@scoobyrex247 2000
Always happy to see a new camera thing drop, love that you make these every now and then.
Seeing these photos taken with these older cameras is always a treat! Especially with all the older buildings and shops in Hendersonville.
As a huge photography nerd, your videos on old cameras are always my favorite to watch. Another great one as always! Please keep doing these when you find more weird cameras.
I still have the Kodak digital camera I have that takes floppy disks. It was their first digital camera. I found it at goodwill for $5. It originally retailed for something like $900 I think? Over $1,000? It's a goofy shape but it's not uncomfortable. It has the styling of an office projector, and you hold it like you're holding a pair of binoculars. lol
Awesome episode. Your channel has been a favorite for years and never get bored. Your quality and production is top notch and creates a really immersive watching experience.
Thank you, I appreciate that!
Ok I need this. The color separation would be a LOT of fun, holy cow
Great video, I love old digital cameras and Iomega disks so this was great!
It is really interesting how you went with a different style of music at the end of the video. It really gave my 2000s vibes instead of what I usually came here to experience. Very well done!
Missed the camera videos glad to see another one
Nice one Mr LGR! I like how you got out and about a bit with some urban footage. Keep it up.
my favorite youtuber! I love LGR!!🥰
I have been rewatching a lot of lgr videos lately and when this one popped up I just thought it was an old video about a digital camera I've seen a few times already but decided to watch it again anyways. Then I realized all the comments are really recent, like within a few minutes recent lol.
My school's computer lab in south west Zimbabwe had one of these babies in the early 00s. Fun times!!
So glad we're back to the digital cam reviews.
Sir this video format is top notch
Straight up nostalgic for me. 40mb? Gah damn🤣
Thanks for excellent content! Love your videos, brining me so much nostalgia...
Well, it's not that ridiculous coming from film -- a 36 roll was a 'big' one ... back in the bad ol' days we didn't have storage cards where you could just machine-gun thousands of exposures.
@@halfsourlizard9319 oh, I was there. My early life was documented on VHS dinosaur cams and single use, wind up cameras. Lol
@@macpatten9249 Ah, good ol' VHS ... Can somebody go fix the tracking?! Ha, good times with primitive tech!
@@halfsourlizard9319 seeing the auto tracking indicator come up on old footage uploaded to UA-cam instantly reminds me of how far away from childhood I am 😂
great photos clint!!
Great review, some great photography down town!
Rip Circus Man, you shall not be forgotten.
I love these weird old cameras, the 90s really were wild in terms of tech
Great job covering an odd camera! I vaguely remember that media format. 😄
Your video made me smile, thank you
One of the reasons I love the camera reviews is because I know all the places you're taking pictures of! I think it was the Gizmondo review where I saw the pics and said "wait a minute...!"
Dude I love your pictures
After a long time finally I can watch my favorite channel😁
It’s so funny, I just came across a CL30 in the box at the thrift store and picked it up after not being able to find much info on it. Then I randomly see what LGR has been up to and this extremely detailed video is the first thing I see. Thanks!
Love these types of videos
every photo you took instantly look like it was taken back in time
The sequential color live view mode is deliciously trippy. That alone justifies the purchase IMO.
10:56 not only do I get the pleasant surprise of a Saturday morning LGR drop, but I get a glimpse of a 4th gen Accord, too?
Cars are like computers, in that there's always a special place in your heart for your first.
I just realized i live 30mins from Clint! That's awesome! One of these days i'll probably see him rummaging through the electronics isle at the Goodwill's i occasionally go to. Greetings from Hendersonville!
speaking of cameras, your camera you use for your videos is outstanding. one of the best ive seen.
Glad to hear! I’ve had it for a number of years now but haven’t yet found a reason to move to another one.
ahhh seeing that old crown vic ltd brought back memories i used to have a 91 vic with the 5.0l v8 that thing was a joy to drive
My first digital camera was the 780!!! BRINGS BACK SO MANY GOOD MEMORIES!!!
I had a job working at a Ritz Camera around '01, '02. I remember us stocking most of the cameras you've reviewed, but this was one that we never had (not that anyone ever asked). I was a big believer in Iomega at the time, lol, I thought they were gonna win the format wars.
I love old digicams, especially I get a chance to use them for fun as you have.
Reminds me of when I first realized Clint lives in my town. I was watching a Thrifts episode and recognized a Goodwill as one within walking distance of my home. Small world! I was subscribed for like a few months before realizing. Nice to see the great photos from our town!
Our first digital camera didn't even have a LCD preview screen on it. It had a maximum image resolution of 1024x768. It used Compact Flash to store pictures, used 4 AA batteries, had a tripod mount, used a 3.5mm to serial cable to transfer files off the camera, used a horizontal rotary wheel to move between modes. It came with a 4 MB CF card. I later bought a 32 MB, 64 MB, 128 MB CF card to see what its actual limits were. It took 13 seconds from the time I pressed the shutter button for it to capture and store the image. It also chewed through batteries. To conserve power I would turn it off between shots. I think I still have it somewhere. I know I still have the Compact Flash memory cards. At the time I bought those CF cards they were cutting edge technology. Even when the camera itself was probably an older generation or two. We loved using it. Over time it slowly became mine somehow. Oh and it had a 3.5 mm port to RCA video cable to allow us to see our photos on the CRT TV.
LGR Camera Things are among my favorite types of videos on this channel.
That camera actuall renders colours beautifully and does very well with contrast! I am impressed.
Wow, the photos look surprisingly good! I actually thought the first example you showed was from a newer camera for comparison before you revealed it was from the CL30.
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It brought some memories about my Mustek camera from that days. It was crappy and expensive, too, but the photos make me smile. And this is priceless 🙂
the shot of the drive with the mic right up close was so good that classic sound was captured perfectly
As always some of the best camera reviews. Found odd how good the image quality was for its era, even today if using the high-quality settings with some Ps tricks.
I had a "semi professional" camera that stored the images and videos on mini-CDs (which was a pain, because once the laser broke and I could never find a repair shop that could fix it), but this is next-level lmao
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NOOOOOOO Im so sad the circus ringleader and tiger are gone! Those were perfect for image comparison and they were just super fun! Overall though if the camera worked as it should, I wouldn't mind using one today, granted knowing its not a Pixel phone camera but I love these old style digital cams. Great stuff as always Clint!
That is so cool! You’re what inspired me to start collecting retro technology and starting my very own UA-cam channel so thank you so much LGR for all the inspiration and I think this is really cool. Keep up the good work.
Curious, did you grow up during this time period or was it after your time?
@@leeartlee915 no I was born in the early 2000s but I have a heart for retro tech
@@Micro486official That’s awesome. Hope more of your type are out there :-)
I have asked around, you included many times. But i am dying for a Jaz drive episode. With good frigging audio of that magnificent machine. The spin up sound is amazing. And here is the twist. Can you, make it the OS drive? Back when you had ATA 1gb drives. That were on paper slower than the Jaz. What would it do? Come on Clint. Lets Rock!
Such a cool style to the click disks.
I was having a rough morning and then I see a new LGR. You've brightened my day.
awwwww
Another great one
It’s 11pm on a Saturday night. Of course I have nothing better to do than watch this.
But, seriously, love LGR. Thanks for your videos Clint!
ETA: since we're taking world roll call, good evening from Sydney
9AM here 😊 Hello from the other side of the world 🙋🏻♂️🇨🇦
9 pm here in Perth.
3 pm here in Belgium.
5 o'clock here in somewhere.
@@halfsourlizard9319 I'd say you're somewhere near Margaritaville 🍸🍹
Always love these looks at "almost there, but not quite" transitory forerunners to things we now take for granted.
Thanks for excellent content! Love your videos, brining me so much nostalgia...
Thanks for excellent content! Love your videos, brining me so much nostalgia...
Oh, look, both of you shitty scammer bots have the same message with the same type-o; how cute.
I started my Tech Sunday with This Week in Retro in the morning, then Ctrl-Alt-Reese's interview with Clint in the afternoon, followed by the Dutch Grand Prix, and am wrapping up with this little nugget. A day well spent I'd say.
Coincidentally I was just done rewatching some older Oddware vids about storage from you, wow.
I love these camera videos
8:14 Oh man, the way that image loaded up from top to bottom took me back to my childhood
Can't believe I'm starting to feel nostalgic for the crunchy quality of early digital pictures but something about the washed out look of those photos reminded me of my youth.
I worked at a tech store around that time and used to sell them. I always thought they were neat. I could see it was an outlier for tech however, as other media were catching on fast.
Even back then Canon and HP were far ahead of the competition. Sony had come out with its memory-stick too, if I remember. So many different options to go with.
The first time I went to buy a Digital Camera the salesman in the camera store put me off by warning me that Smartmedia was about to be replaced by XD cards,
@@MrDunclXD cards were the worst. They were only really ever supported by Olympus and Kodak and maybe a handful of Fuji cameras? But all but the Olympus cameras absolute garbage. That sales man saved you for sure!
@@caodesignworks2407 Yes it was an Olympus I was looking at after being impressed by my Olympus 35mm compact (although it did cost £200 back in about 1994). I ended up buying a 3MPixel Canon Ixus that took Compact Flash cards. That was £400 !
I'm a sucker for little discs, so cool.
This is the Foone / LGR crossover I've been waiting for!
This was my 2nd digital camera when I started in photograsphy. I had 2 of the discs at the time. No extra add-ons just 4 sets of rechargeable batteries to go with it. The big selling point for me was moving up from 640x480 and 64 max photos before offloading. if I remember correctly wbetween the 2 discs i could take 240 photos. Then moved to the Panasonic Super Disc 1.3MP camera..... Now I shoot with 512GB and 1TB memory cards that fill in a single day.
Worked at iomega in both zip and jazz cartridge. Loved the job till they moved manufacturing to Malaysia!!! Keep up the great vids!!!
OH MY GOD I did NOT know that you live in/near Asheville. I use to live there years ago and it's where I grew up; I thought your images felt eerily familial until I saw the Bear statue all too familiar of downtown Hendersonville and the Mellow Mushroom in Asheville. Neat!
5:09 i actually jumped. Your videos are too relaxing
Rip to the circus statues
Interestingly enough, the first digital camera I ever saw was an Agfa. We were on a cruise in 1999 and one of the guests at dinner had one. We were all amazed.
Dan's Data is a delightful, period correct reference.
This was a fun time in digital cameras. It was also really fun trying to predict what was going to happen in their future.
actually so impressed by the quality of those pictures! really thought it'd be much worse!
The screens being dead you always need to unseat and reseat every cable that unplugs inside the camera first. These cameras are not built with tolerances so every bump, bang, and jostle can unseat wires. Failing that it was likely left somewhere hot or damp and one of the capacitors fried, which is common.
I still have my Iomega Click drive, its a PCMCIA model with a USB dock. It still works, on Windows 10 and on Linux. I have to say, I really liked it back then as USB memory sticks were not yet available and when they started to become available they were crazy expensive. The Click disks were small and easy to carry and, for the time, held a lot of data. At this time 3.5" floppies were still king for portable storage.
@6:08 was really satisfying! 😂 Having to pay extra for *a lens cap!?* Man Alive!
Never ceases to be wild seeing pictures of where I live on a big UA-cam lol
amazing I love all the quirky media formats people came up with back then.. My first "proper" sampler used zip cassettes to supplement the on board floppy drive😀
Wow those photos actually looked really good! Maybe a future restoration project?
@7:50 What a great effect. I need a whole music video shot on this thing 😂
That's my favorite series of LGR