It is great to see people calmly working together this way. Very professional attitudes. Given the lack of information I think it is really rude to say he was 'stupid' or a 'bad climber'. He is clearly leading the climb as evidenced by the rope is is towing behind him. It is 100% guaranteed that he has a series of anchor points behind him in form of ice screws or trad rock gear (some of which you can see on his belt). He is not going to fall to his death but does not want to fall 15 feet either.
I am privy to more of the full story, and there is an explanation for why he was climbing on that ice when there is clearly running water (I don't really remember what it was, though). More importantly, you can hear the climber (my uncle) say "I owe you all a drink now" around 4:39 . He did actually buy them drinks and that is when they gave him the video. The people at the top were complete strangers, who thankfully happened to have that rope
Hi Steven, I'd like to get in touch with your uncle about possibly using this video clip in a TV programme. I'd be very grateful if you could reply to me and we can discuss the best way to get in touch? Many thanks.
He is already clipped to a lead (he has a second rope to an anchor below him), fall would sucked but he would be fine, probably decided to try that path shortcutting an anchor due to seeing people
@@LasseLundster Thanks for that explanation. This video was referenced on another channel and I was wondering why the climber was climbing without a rope. =. Watching the video again, I can clearly see he took the necessary precautions.
The woman speaking on this vid is an excellent communicator. She is confident and reassuring. She must be a teacher of some kind. If I found my fat ass climbing up a chunk of melting ice, I would want her holding the other end of the rope.
I admire their determination and positive thinking. I wasn't sure I wanted to carry on watching the video, I didn't want to see a sad end. They worked as a team and the guy climbing is smiling but you could see that he's also prepared for the worst. People who do these kind of sports sees them as a "challenge" to test their human physical abilities and, obviously, because they enjoy practising them. Good for them all. Thanks the heavens the climber is safe, well until his next challenge any way!
That guy was so lucky! Given all the water running down that gulley, noone knows if any ice screws below him would have held. I would have been s******ting my pants, and I am sure he did. Well that was a close call! Good timing for the rope :))
Well done you! (y'all?!!). Not knowing the circumstances makes it impossible to know what the outcome would have been if you hadn't been there but, at the very least, you helped that fellow avoid a fall (which is unpleasant whatever the distance!). A heart-warming example of the camaraderie of mountaineers. Good on you!
I think you're right on the money here. Everest would never have been climbed were it not for adventurers willing to take the risk. The reasons for the climb are unknown, he clearly has all the proper equipment, and just ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm really glad these other people were there to give him help just at the right time. I definitely don't want to try this though, my heart skipped about 10 beats when that ice gave way, even with the line attached.
As the lead climber, you bring the rope with you and place anchors as you go. So if he was to fall he would fall twice the distance that he is past the anchor and then stop. Climbing isn't a death with, people place gear to make it safe.
Yes, news reporters typical do not understand the technical aspects of climbing. This guy is on a lead rope, you can see it trailing behind him. He as a partner down below and the climber has put in pieces of gear as he climbs up. If he had fallen without the rope that was tossed down to him he would have fallen onto his lead rope down to his last (top) piece of gear. Dangerous but not deadly.
I'm pretty sure he was the lead climber in a different group than those who are filming/helping him. I saw a rope trailing him from below him. If climbing lead, you typically get belayed from below and place protection as you ascend. So if his last point of "pro" was 10 feet below him, he could take a "leader fall" of twice that distance. Which would suck but would not kill him. If he was climbing without protection, well, one mistake and you're done…
If you look closely beginning at :05, you can see a rope leading down. This goes down through his protection to his belayer. He's already tied in, but above the last piece of protection he's placed. A fall at this point might hurt, but as long as he placed his pro in a good spot, not likely fatal. Still, quite sill to be climbing the ice in that spot. I fail to understand why he didn't attempt to dry-tool on the rock to climber's left, or move to the more solid ice to climber's right side.
I'm not a climber or anything, but it seems to me these spring like conditions would be especially dangerous. When it broke away, my heart skipped a beat!
awesome presence of mind by the leader to stay so calm when his heart rate must have been going a 100 miles an hour. When I saw the start of this video I thought what the hell is he doing that water is running way too fast over the ice. whoever bailed him out is also a great team.
Just since so one has actually explained it to you, he is harnessed in. Hes climbing like any mountain climber. He has points anchored to the mountain below him so if he does fall, they catch him.
I see his rack now. It actually looks like he's climbing without a rope at all, which is why I assumed he had no rope when he accepted the rope from the other group, but I get your point. Still his last clip looks a long way back, I'd hate see the snapback when the ice gave way if he fell on his own rope.
that lady off screen? fucking. rock solid, no pun intended here. She was careful and calm. I mean. the whole thing seems a bit boneheaded but that lady's voice man. Fuckin' RADIATING wonder-woman-grade authority. respek. respek.
as a canadian i consider myself an expert on ice and .... yeah ice with water running over it usually means there is water running under get ...DANGER thin ice
yeah, I watched the rest. the ropes he's trailiing disappear out into the distance behind him. It seems like a slope more than a cliff - but I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking at a 30m slide.
The climber was tied in, but climbing above his protection (this is called lead climbing). As long as his last ice screw was placed in solid ice (which you can't really tell from the video), the climber would have been fine if he fell.
There's a reason why you rarely see someone smile that big while indoors, but please, don't let that stop you from criticizing people from your comfortable chair.
It would be nice if the video poster 'irishpatrick6' would indicate on the discription that this guy is always on a belay safety rope from below him instead of letting some people think he's endangered by climbing unroped. I've had many encounters with people climbing unroped (including some body recoveries) on search and rescue teams I've been on.
Was he belay'd from below, you can see his lead lines when he comes up? If so, then he's essentially lead climbing, a spill would have been caught down below. Looks like the rope thrown was a crutch to get over that thin slab.
Guy wasn't about to fall down a mountain, he has a safety line, you can see it behind him as well as at least two plugs, watch when he moves over to the other ice.
He's already got a safety rope anyway, if he falls, he will fall a few meters to the last place he laid his safety marker, she offered him a rope so he didn't have to fall and risk a few bruises.
I remember reading about what constitutes an ice-climbing belay - either a couple of bolts hammered into the ice, or just jam your axes handle first into the snow if there's nothing hard nearby. Then encourage your leader not to fall, because there's no way to place pro every couple of body lengths because there's no cracks or features on a snow-covered ice fall. That, and they usually use longer ropes because the pitches are so long, so they're dramatically runout at the end of every pitch.
i dont climb much but i have friends that do and if done right then climbing is about as safe if not more safe than driving a car, something we all do on a daily basis and dont even think about.
""I wonder what kind of protection he has down below? Probably junk, and nothing that will hold a screaming leader fall."" It depends, a lot of time it's thin just at the top. Could be real thick down below.
Fair play to that guy for accepting the help, and you guys for the help. I no if I was in that situation I wouldn't hesitate too accept a helping hand. Im sure there are some people to proud to accept help.
I'm fairly certain he wasn't with the people who had the rope. Seems like they just happened to be there. The way they initially talk to each other seems like two strangers interacting...
And how did you 'rescue' him since he was tied on a belay rope from below the whole time? I've been on several search and rescue teams as a volunteer and have been on several body recoveries. It would be nice if you posted in the description that he was on belay the whole time so people unfamiliar with climbing don't get the 'Hollywood' illusion that he's climbing unroped.
What if people want a bigger rush? What if rock climbing is just too safe for them? What about riding a bike down a mountain (pretty sure you can find tons of videos of those here in youtube) if you fall you're done for. The people climbing mount everest despite knowing that there's a decent chance of freezing to death. I understand your point though.
It is great to see people calmly working together this way. Very professional attitudes. Given the lack of information I think it is really rude to say he was 'stupid' or a 'bad climber'. He is clearly leading the climb as evidenced by the rope is is towing behind him. It is 100% guaranteed that he has a series of anchor points behind him in form of ice screws or trad rock gear (some of which you can see on his belt). He is not going to fall to his death but does not want to fall 15 feet either.
why is this vid so impressive?
because this shows us it's beautiful to help people.
I am privy to more of the full story, and there is an explanation for why he was climbing on that ice when there is clearly running water (I don't really remember what it was, though). More importantly, you can hear the climber (my uncle) say "I owe you all a drink now" around 4:39 . He did actually buy them drinks and that is when they gave him the video. The people at the top were complete strangers, who thankfully happened to have that rope
Hi Steven, I'd like to get in touch with your uncle about possibly using this video clip in a TV programme. I'd be very grateful if you could reply to me and we can discuss the best way to get in touch? Many thanks.
He is already clipped to a lead (he has a second rope to an anchor below him), fall would sucked but he would be fine, probably decided to try that path shortcutting an anchor due to seeing people
@@LasseLundster Thanks for that explanation. This video was referenced on another channel and I was wondering why the climber was climbing without a rope. =. Watching the video again, I can clearly see he took the necessary precautions.
Thank god those people were there. The difference between laughter and sorrow.
Suddenly, everyone on youtube was an expert climber
That woman sounds so professional. Like the way she says everything so matter of factly.
Wow! Perfect timing by this helpful duo! What a shocker to find the ice turning into water as you approach the top. Lucky bloke! Phew.
Tears, It must be nice to be able to say "I GOT YOU" and even nicer to hear it.
I want to try ice climbing so badly.. but definitely not without a top rope. They did a good job with him, I'm glad it ended well.
The woman speaking on this vid is an excellent communicator. She is confident and reassuring. She must be a teacher of some kind.
If I found my fat ass climbing up a chunk of melting ice, I would want her holding the other end of the rope.
I admire their determination and positive thinking. I wasn't sure I wanted to carry on watching the video, I didn't want to see a sad end. They worked as a team and the guy climbing is smiling but you could see that he's also prepared for the worst. People who do these kind of sports sees them as a "challenge" to test their human physical abilities and, obviously, because they enjoy practising them. Good for them all. Thanks the heavens the climber is safe, well until his next challenge any way!
That guy was so lucky! Given all the water running down that gulley, noone knows if any ice screws below him would have held. I would have been s******ting my pants, and I am sure he did. Well that was a close call! Good timing for the rope :))
I love how you hear her clip in JUST as he takes the step that knocks the ice down.
Well done you! (y'all?!!). Not knowing the circumstances makes it impossible to know what the outcome would have been if you hadn't been there but, at the very least, you helped that fellow avoid a fall (which is unpleasant whatever the distance!). A heart-warming example of the camaraderie of mountaineers. Good on you!
I think you're right on the money here. Everest would never have been climbed were it not for adventurers willing to take the risk.
The reasons for the climb are unknown, he clearly has all the proper equipment, and just ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I'm really glad these other people were there to give him help just at the right time.
I definitely don't want to try this though, my heart skipped about 10 beats when that ice gave way, even with the line attached.
The crew with the ropes and camera are absolute champs!
As the lead climber, you bring the rope with you and place anchors as you go. So if he was to fall he would fall twice the distance that he is past the anchor and then stop. Climbing isn't a death with, people place gear to make it safe.
Yes, news reporters typical do not understand the technical aspects of climbing. This guy is on a lead rope, you can see it trailing behind him. He as a partner down below and the climber has put in pieces of gear as he climbs up. If he had fallen without the rope that was tossed down to him he would have fallen onto his lead rope down to his last (top) piece of gear. Dangerous but not deadly.
I'm pretty sure he was the lead climber in a different group than those who are filming/helping him. I saw a rope trailing him from below him. If climbing lead, you typically get belayed from below and place protection as you ascend. So if his last point of "pro" was 10 feet below him, he could take a "leader fall" of twice that distance. Which would suck but would not kill him. If he was climbing without protection, well, one mistake and you're done…
If you look closely beginning at :05, you can see a rope leading down. This goes down through his protection to his belayer. He's already tied in, but above the last piece of protection he's placed. A fall at this point might hurt, but as long as he placed his pro in a good spot, not likely fatal.
Still, quite sill to be climbing the ice in that spot. I fail to understand why he didn't attempt to dry-tool on the rock to climber's left, or move to the more solid ice to climber's right side.
I'm not a climber or anything, but it seems to me these spring like conditions would be especially dangerous. When it broke away, my heart skipped a beat!
awesome presence of mind by the leader to stay so calm when his heart rate must have been going a 100 miles an hour. When I saw the start of this video I thought what the hell is he doing that water is running way too fast over the ice. whoever bailed him out is also a great team.
Even if he does have a belayer while he is lead climbing it, that's a sick whipper to take especially in those conditions.
WOW he kept his smile on the whole time. i guess no time for doubt.
I must remember to put ice climbing on my to-do list in my next life.
Just since so one has actually explained it to you, he is harnessed in. Hes climbing like any mountain climber. He has points anchored to the mountain below him so if he does fall, they catch him.
you sir, got my respect.
I see his rack now. It actually looks like he's climbing without a rope at all, which is why I assumed he had no rope when he accepted the rope from the other group, but I get your point. Still his last clip looks a long way back, I'd hate see the snapback when the ice gave way if he fell on his own rope.
Water is constantly flowing over it at a frozen temperature. It normally would be extremely hard ice.
that lady off screen? fucking. rock solid, no pun intended here. She was careful and calm. I mean. the whole thing seems a bit boneheaded but that lady's voice man. Fuckin' RADIATING wonder-woman-grade authority. respek. respek.
Under those conditions, accepting a top rope is the wise course. And yes, a few rounds of drinks are in order.
as a canadian i consider myself an expert on ice and .... yeah ice with water running over it usually means there is water running under get ...DANGER thin ice
It's great how you all laugh at the end, even though he was almost death.
Good job on saving that fellow's life!
yeah, I watched the rest. the ropes he's trailiing disappear out into the distance behind him. It seems like a slope more than a cliff - but I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking at a 30m slide.
Oh yeah lets climb up the ice that is being flooded by water. BRILLIANT!
I'd say that just about settles it for me. You're a braver man than I.... i have no doubt. lol
All I could think about during this video was how cold that water must be.
Nice vid, close call. I want to try this one day.
Wow, that last bit over the ledge was sketchy as hell. Hopefully he had protection just over the edge, but it would still have been a scary ride.
The climber was tied in, but climbing above his protection (this is called lead climbing). As long as his last ice screw was placed in solid ice (which you can't really tell from the video), the climber would have been fine if he fell.
fine???
It's so funny. I thought "wait" meant don't move. Guess in ice climbing it means "come on we're ready."
There's a reason why you rarely see someone smile that big while indoors, but please, don't let that stop you from criticizing people from your comfortable chair.
I climbed for nearly 30 years, and did some awesome climbs, but I can't recall a single one I would have been willing to die for.
Did you ice climb?
ice climbing seems like natural selection to me
It would be nice if the video poster 'irishpatrick6' would indicate on the discription that this guy is always on a belay safety rope from below him instead of letting some people think he's endangered by climbing unroped. I've had many encounters with people climbing unroped (including some body recoveries) on search and rescue teams I've been on.
1:47 "okay, your golden" they were telling him he was on belay
Thanks I did see that after posting the question. I do wonder if they would have held.
Was he belay'd from below, you can see his lead lines when he comes up? If so, then he's essentially lead climbing, a spill would have been caught down below. Looks like the rope thrown was a crutch to get over that thin slab.
Amazing timing!
I thought that melting ice was a good enough warning
GUYS GUYS,let's climb on the part of the mountain where the ice is melting......GENIUS!
Same here except sometimes we have to risk that doing Search and Rescue.
He's climbing at 2:00
He's falling at 2:01
Wow! I'd be smiling too. Glad it turned out well for you guys.
Guy wasn't about to fall down a mountain, he has a safety line, you can see it behind him as well as at least two plugs, watch when he moves over to the other ice.
He's already got a safety rope anyway, if he falls, he will fall a few meters to the last place he laid his safety marker, she offered him a rope so he didn't have to fall and risk a few bruises.
Finally someone that understands climbing.
I remember reading about what constitutes an ice-climbing belay - either a couple of bolts hammered into the ice, or just jam your axes handle first into the snow if there's nothing hard nearby.
Then encourage your leader not to fall, because there's no way to place pro every couple of body lengths because there's no cracks or features on a snow-covered ice fall.
That, and they usually use longer ropes because the pitches are so long, so they're dramatically runout at the end of every pitch.
I'm surprised he was able to finish the climb with his massive balls of steel in the way.
i dont climb much but i have friends that do and if done right then climbing is about as safe if not more safe than driving a car, something we all do on a daily basis and dont even think about.
Ooof... crampons on rock is a helluva challenge
You can see he has ropes attached to his harness and is on belay from below. I bet the ice that fell scared the hell out person below on belay.
That woman practically saved his life
He is harnessed, but his last piece of protection is below him. They simply saved him from taking a fall on his own gear.
It was also a place where running water was, making it an even more weakened spot.
Press 3 repeatedly for pure epicness.
I've never met a mean climber. Everyone's so friendly
I'm glad I watched this on the toilet. Otherwise I'd have shit myself.
""I wonder what kind of protection he has down below? Probably junk, and nothing that will hold a screaming leader fall."" It depends, a lot of time it's thin just at the top. Could be real thick down below.
My palms became sweaty after watching it
Unnecessary risk
I still have to comment again - you guys totally rock to save this guy. He almost didn't let you, but you saved him anyway. Wonderful people you are!
@evilbrent he is roped to the wall, probably a few feet if not a dozen down, he would have lived without the second rope but it wouldve hurt
Fair play to that guy for accepting the help, and you guys for the help. I no if I was in that situation I wouldn't hesitate too accept a helping hand. Im sure there are some people to proud to accept help.
thats crazy if the other people waited for him to take one more step then to offer help, it would have been too late, that was close
Why would you climb where there is water streaming? I would assume that the ice would be a lot less stable?
I would love to hear more about all of this. How far would the fall have been?
The water is going down, a sign that going the opposite way is a bad idea.
He was roped in, not like he was going to die. He was just going to fall more if the party above did nothing.
Were you all climbing as a group or did you rescue this fellow?
How does one get into Ice climbing... is it just a step up or down from mountain climbing?
I still have ice climbing on my to do list.
I'm fairly certain he wasn't with the people who had the rope. Seems like they just happened to be there. The way they initially talk to each other seems like two strangers interacting...
the kindness of strangers!
Lucky duck he ran into some experienced people
"I owe you all a drink now"....
FPS Doug is moving to the crows nest
3:00
'Could you get over to the that ice on your right, Baby?'
'Whats that??'
'The ice to your right, maybe?'
im just wondering, whats the other rope for? at 3:34 you can see there's a rope behind him connected to him but what's the point of it?
How far back is that Pro though? Taking a whipper with sharp equipment flailing around isn't anything I'd smile about.
Was there a REI at the top? Cause I bet he needs a new pair of pants.
And how did you 'rescue' him since he was tied on a belay rope from below the whole time? I've been on several search and rescue teams as a volunteer and have been on several body recoveries. It would be nice if you posted in the description that he was on belay the whole time so people unfamiliar with climbing don't get the 'Hollywood' illusion that he's climbing unroped.
I think he was secured, he would have fall to his last secured anchor, the public park has enough safe anchors.
how did he get there? why didnt he have safety ropes? why did he climb on melting ice?
Yeah that looks like a ton of fun...
"do you want a rope?" ('cause the ice he's climbing on isn't melting. Right?") JUST THROW THE ROPE!!
Well, that's usually why you have these ropes with you when you go climbing professionally :P
he's on lead, so he would have fallen until his last piece of protection was above him... hard to say how far below him that was.
do ice climbers typically climb where water is running?
What if people want a bigger rush? What if rock climbing is just too safe for them? What about riding a bike down a mountain (pretty sure you can find tons of videos of those here in youtube) if you fall you're done for. The people climbing mount everest despite knowing that there's a decent chance of freezing to death.
I understand your point though.
james franco really good actor