A rare beast indeed, nice job getting it going again! I've been curious to see one of these in action and yeah, for a slower V3 2000 with only 8MB RAM performance is understandable. Still so cool to have on-board! I wonder if it responds to overclocking in the same way as a dedicated card, I pushed my V3 2000 card as far as I could back in the day.
Thank you! Yeah, seems like it overclocks similar to the standalone cards. K2s Retro Workshop that I mention in the video actually ran some overclocking benchmarks at the end of his video, and it looks like it runs quite nicely. Haven’t tried it on my board yet though!
Seeing the back of this computer brings me back to my youth days. Seeing those connectors just makes me feel the way I did back then. Optimism, joy, a feeling of wanting to explore the possibilities. I guess it was around 2000 when we got fiber optics. 10/10 and I had my first modern computer that was my own and that I picked out. Thinking back of the wild wild web of the time makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Napster, Kazaa, Limewire etc. What a time to be alive. I used to carry that computer to LAN parties too. We'd play games for days and just have a great time.
3dfx was pushing desperately every button to catch up with nVidia TNT2 at that time. They were a GPU supplier at first, but after acquiring STB Microelectronics they also release their GFX cards. They cut the GPU supplies to other vendors. After that, you could get a Voodoo accelerator from 3dfx only. That more profitable but hard to do decision was their last mistake I think. With GeForce 256's release their fate had ended
This really takes me back, i bought a Voodoo 2 as my very first GPU back in 98. Even know i have a pretty powerful system with a Ryzen 5900x and an RTX 3080ti now, i still play the old school games i grew up with like Hal-life, Quake 1,2 and 3 once and a while.
Nice video and nice find on this machine! So glad you got it working too. I can still vaguely remember when this machine was on sale here in the UK in PC World. The Gateway computer we had at the time had a Voodoo 3 3000 in it and I remember being impressed that Packard Bell were adopting 3DFX cards in their machines. I had no idea though it was integrated onto the motherboard though and had no AGP port for future expansion. I would have been more dissapointed at the time if I'd realised that, however, as others have stated in the comments, I do find it kinda cool now from a nostalgic point of view. It's also amusing that it's a mATX motherboard in a relatively large ATX case. I always liked the Packard Bell cases of that era too. The Club series cases were like a smaller mATX version of these Mulitimedia series cases, and the Platinum series cases had a more serious look about them, which I felt gave them a similar look to Dell and Gateway of the era.
Good to see this old Packard Bell PC coming back to life. I still have two Win98 3dfx systems running. One has a Voodoo 3 3000 and the other has a Voodoo Banshe. Hope they will keep working for long years :)
the editing of this video is so enjoyable to watch, love the way you work with this old tech. You deserve to have a like and subscribe, please do more :D
Great work saving a gem like that! thats a nice motherboard 😊I need to learn soldering to repair some of my old boards. It's been 20+ years since I had Teknik class in school.
Great video man. I owned this machine back in the days. My dad bought me one when I was young. I used to play Soldier of Fortune, Red Alert, Unreal, Delta Force 2 and so on. Such great memories. Now I own 2 of them, managed to buy them. Had to replace some caps on one of them but they were running fine. Man I love these machines.
Most of the time it isn't worth saving an old prebuild rather than replacing the motherboard...but when the motherboard it has includes a Voodoo 3, even a slow one, that means that it is definitely worth saving.
Of course I made it till the end, this video was awesome! 😎 Maybe you can check the frequency, enabled MTUs and the fill rate of the voodoo3 to understand why it scores about 1/3 of what it should in 3Dmark 2000
Packard Bell sure did a lot of fun stuff with this machine. From making the case open backwards, to the hidden bays. And did you also notice there's only ONE USB port on the back, despite the board having two? As for the PSU outputting 3.4v - apparently that's one small caveat of those that run a sense wire on the 3.3v - the voltage rises slightly. I have a Sun Pro OEM'd unit here (Rhino RX-500Y) that always runs the 3.3v rail like that.
Yes, haha, the blanked out USB port is weird! Maybe they had another mobo option with only a single USB and they just used the same IO shield or something. Interesting tidbit about the 3.4v, had no idea!
Interesting bit of computing history. So integrating higher-end discreet GPUs into motherboards is an older concept than I thought. Even these days, integrated discreet GPUs are pretty rare in desktop systems, they're pretty much exclusive to laptops. As for those bad capacitors, it's always best to replace all same brand caps, even if only some of them look bad.
I got one of these (with a 450 mhz celeron) almost 20 years ago as it was dead. I never found out what was wrong with it, but found that pressing the power button repeatedly hundreds of times slowly got it back into life. It would then work as normal until it was unplugged. I remember the hard drive containing a large library of MP3 music, many of which I've been unable to find online later.
8:51 I did bought an original CD of 98 SE before but was not able to install it in my XP machine. I did use 98 before but not on my computer, I did not used it long unlike the XP Professional. Hearing that boot up sound IS AN EARGASM TO MY EARS!
Oh yeah. I remember late Friday nights playing Counter Strike and StarCraft on my Gateway 2000 with a 3Dfx Voodoo. My Dad would fall asleep on the couch nearby watching antiques roadshow. Classic
That brought back some memories, a cousin of mine had such model back in the day, I helped them set it up and install the PC when they got it. It came with a collection of software and games which where included by Packard Bell, from what i recall some of the titles where Encarta Encyclopedia, greetings card software, Games Blade Runner and Freddi Fish. They also had A2 racer but not sure if that was a pack-in or they got that loose. For reference this was in the Netherlands, I believe some of the included titles could differ per country/region.
You should get yourself an ATX power tester. Those are gold if you attempt such things more often, and don't cost the world either. Note that especially the digital versions have issues with different ATX versions, such as the number of PINs and the presence / absence of secondary 12V and -5V line.
I remember a friend buying this computer new. And we install Quake 1 and setting the video to the 3DFX and playing the game with flawless graphics....damn! Wish I could to that today. Great game for it'd time.
In late 1997 ny dad came home with our first computer. Its was a Packard Bell 133mhz processor with MMX (clocking it to 166mhz) A 1.5 MB graphics card 1.8 gig hard drive And a whopping 16mb Ram. The screen had built in speakers. A stand alone microphone and a remote. It ran on Windows 95 and killed everything we threw at it. 2000 bucks for this beast ❤❤
A great video. It really takes me back as my family had one of these exact machines (including the funky CRT with the side mounted speakers) as the family PC when I was growing up. I remember it came bundled with Diablo and Alpha Centauri.
Voodoo 2 was legend. I had one back in the day. It only did the actual 3D part. The 2D part was done by the integrated graphics. Kinda SLC before SLC was a thing (Not really, but lets put it that way so the kids understand what i am talking about lol)
Lol this is a funny video, I've had the EXACT same PC as my first computer back in 1998 !, The PIII slot processor (Katmai core if I'm not mistaken), 64Mb of SDR-SDRAM and the Voodoo 3. I've had a lot of fun with it back in the day, I played a lot of Unreal Tournament and C&C Red Alert 2 with it :)
It probably sold in my native Netherlands. As the advertisement in the beginning is in Dutch. There were a lot of Packard Bell's being sold back then. I seem to remember they were generally being targeted as family PC's.
I had this exact pc when I was a kid but I had the P3 450, the onboard voodoo 3 was abit of a pain to get running in a few games. I had issues with games like redguard and Diablo 2, I remember the textures would do weird things like overlap or not be on the correct spot. But I remember all the kids in my street being jelly I had a pc that could play dvds lol
hi thankyou ,loved my watch , takes me back to my first pc back in 1999 pentuim 3 600, may of been a pb, i upgraded to 64mbits of ram new psu and a 3dfx oor voodoo card ,cost me 299.00 to upgrade lol
Very interesting motherboard... Makes me wonder if they ever made a laptop flavor. Apparently 2 versions of that motherboard, V1 had 8mb and V2 had 16mb for the voodoo
I still have my Dell Dimension XPS 700 from this era. PIII 700Mhz, 128 or maybe 256? megs ram, RIVA TNT2 32 meg GPU, US Robotics 56k modem, and a Soundblaster Live! audio card. Got it in late Oct/Nov 1999 to play EverQuest 😊
My first pc was a Packard Bell but it was a lowly 486 sx-33 with 4mb ram, 170mb hdd, cirrus logic 1mb video card, no optical drive and no soundcard. I bought and installed a Soundblaster Pro 2.0 in it(my first ever upgrade to a pc) and I found it to be a decent upgrade from my Amiga 500+
A rare beast indeed, nice job getting it going again!
I've been curious to see one of these in action and yeah, for a slower V3 2000 with only 8MB RAM performance is understandable. Still so cool to have on-board! I wonder if it responds to overclocking in the same way as a dedicated card, I pushed my V3 2000 card as far as I could back in the day.
Thank you!
Yeah, seems like it overclocks similar to the standalone cards. K2s Retro Workshop that I mention in the video actually ran some overclocking benchmarks at the end of his video, and it looks like it runs quite nicely. Haven’t tried it on my board yet though!
Basically it's a Velocity 100, isn't it? Are there comparable results to be found?
Hmmm this channel somehow reminds me of someone... If only I could remember who...
Don't listen to this guy, he's lazy and reviews games or something
@@0raffie0 lol ☝️☝️
Hey, Mr LGR called. He wants his lamp back pronto ❤
Seeing the back of this computer brings me back to my youth days. Seeing those connectors just makes me feel the way I did back then. Optimism, joy, a feeling of wanting to explore the possibilities. I guess it was around 2000 when we got fiber optics. 10/10 and I had my first modern computer that was my own and that I picked out. Thinking back of the wild wild web of the time makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Napster, Kazaa, Limewire etc. What a time to be alive. I used to carry that computer to LAN parties too. We'd play games for days and just have a great time.
It was a great era
I remember getting my first 21" CRT which was great for home... the first LAN party I dragged it to, I regretted it.
Wow! This takes me back......back to when i was building those P3 machines when they were new!! Ahhhh.....the good ol' days....
OMFG i had this one! I still got the motherboard, CPU and RAM. Played so much The Sims and Half-Life on it. Good times.
wow i didnt know there was an onboard voodoo option. thats something to watch out for when i'm digging through old systems
Same here! I wonder if it was a Europe-only thing with Packard Bell?
3dfx was pushing desperately every button to catch up with nVidia TNT2 at that time. They were a GPU supplier at first, but after acquiring STB Microelectronics they also release their GFX cards. They cut the GPU supplies to other vendors. After that, you could get a Voodoo accelerator from 3dfx only. That more profitable but hard to do decision was their last mistake I think. With GeForce 256's release their fate had ended
This really takes me back, i bought a Voodoo 2 as my very first GPU back in 98. Even know i have a pretty powerful system with a Ryzen 5900x and an RTX 3080ti now, i still play the old school games i grew up with like Hal-life, Quake 1,2 and 3 once and a while.
Nice video and nice find on this machine! So glad you got it working too. I can still vaguely remember when this machine was on sale here in the UK in PC World. The Gateway computer we had at the time had a Voodoo 3 3000 in it and I remember being impressed that Packard Bell were adopting 3DFX cards in their machines. I had no idea though it was integrated onto the motherboard though and had no AGP port for future expansion. I would have been more dissapointed at the time if I'd realised that, however, as others have stated in the comments, I do find it kinda cool now from a nostalgic point of view. It's also amusing that it's a mATX motherboard in a relatively large ATX case. I always liked the Packard Bell cases of that era too. The Club series cases were like a smaller mATX version of these Mulitimedia series cases, and the Platinum series cases had a more serious look about them, which I felt gave them a similar look to Dell and Gateway of the era.
Great restoration!
I love the Packard Bell splash logo on the boot of this machine... Wow. 8:44
Excellent video. Motherboards with integrated Voodoo 3 GPU are crazy rare. I NEVER saw one for sale in my country.
They do pop up here every now and then, I managed to buy 2 of these (The Netherlands)
What would one motherboard with 3dfx go for on ebay?
Good to see this old Packard Bell PC coming back to life. I still have two Win98 3dfx systems running. One has a Voodoo 3 3000 and the other has a Voodoo Banshe. Hope they will keep working for long years :)
The love and care you put into getting this rare computer working is incredible.
Another thumbs up! Great video! Great job on getting it working again!I love these old classic computers!
the editing of this video is so enjoyable to watch, love the way you work with this old tech. You deserve to have a like and subscribe, please do more :D
A beautiful case like that i'll definitely do a sleeper build.
Great work saving a gem like that! thats a nice motherboard 😊I need to learn soldering to repair some of my old boards. It's been 20+ years since I had Teknik class in school.
That sound when win 98 starts... That took me long back. Diablo 1 and heros 2. Miss being young again.
Great video man. I owned this machine back in the days. My dad bought me one when I was young. I used to play Soldier of Fortune, Red Alert, Unreal, Delta Force 2 and so on. Such great memories. Now I own 2 of them, managed to buy them. Had to replace some caps on one of them but they were running fine. Man I love these machines.
Most of the time it isn't worth saving an old prebuild rather than replacing the motherboard...but when the motherboard it has includes a Voodoo 3, even a slow one, that means that it is definitely worth saving.
Of course I made it till the end, this video was awesome! 😎
Maybe you can check the frequency, enabled MTUs and the fill rate of the voodoo3 to understand why it scores about 1/3 of what it should in 3Dmark 2000
Thanks! I’ll look into it!
a small advice: never use an antistatic bag as a base for testing a motherboard. its conductive. nice video, amazing motherboard.
Not conductive enough to cause any problem.
I just made a test, and can't measure anything between 1 mm with my meter, on the 20M scale.
@@nalinux not all the bags are the same. just be carefull.
@@geomarin5412 Maybe. But I've never seen anyone acting as aluminum paper foil.
case design screams the late 90s i love it sm
That Star Trek edit got me bro! Fantastic video.
Packard Bell sure did a lot of fun stuff with this machine. From making the case open backwards, to the hidden bays.
And did you also notice there's only ONE USB port on the back, despite the board having two?
As for the PSU outputting 3.4v - apparently that's one small caveat of those that run a sense wire on the 3.3v - the voltage rises slightly. I have a Sun Pro OEM'd unit here (Rhino RX-500Y) that always runs the 3.3v rail like that.
Yes, haha, the blanked out USB port is weird! Maybe they had another mobo option with only a single USB and they just used the same IO shield or something.
Interesting tidbit about the 3.4v, had no idea!
I really like the case design. Packard Bell had a certain something back then. I like a textured surface too, no fingerprints.
Interesting bit of computing history. So integrating higher-end discreet GPUs into motherboards is an older concept than I thought.
Even these days, integrated discreet GPUs are pretty rare in desktop systems, they're pretty much exclusive to laptops.
As for those bad capacitors, it's always best to replace all same brand caps, even if only some of them look bad.
I had one of these back in the day... Good times... Very nice to see you revive this!!
I rocked the voodoo 3 for several years. I have no idea where that sucker went. But I still have the driver install CD...
I got one of these (with a 450 mhz celeron) almost 20 years ago as it was dead. I never found out what was wrong with it, but found that pressing the power button repeatedly hundreds of times slowly got it back into life. It would then work as normal until it was unplugged. I remember the hard drive containing a large library of MP3 music, many of which I've been unable to find online later.
Back in the day I used to like the look of some of those Packard Bells, but you learn to keep certain things to yourself.
Great job reviving that beautiful machine! ❤
8:51 I did bought an original CD of 98 SE before but was not able to install it in my XP machine. I did use 98 before but not on my computer, I did not used it long unlike the XP Professional. Hearing that boot up sound IS AN EARGASM TO MY EARS!
Wow I feel so old. I remember this stuff being so amazingly high tech and unattainable (for me)
Awesome find, and great job on the repairs. Now I need to add an integrated 3DFX system to the wishlist!
i bought the PIII 550mhz version of this. I am still using the case right now!
Great content! It gives me so many good memories. Thank you for sharing this!
hahaha, I used to rag on machines like that one back in the day. Nice job on getting it working!
I remember Voodoo three video cards I bought one once just the game kingpin when it came out for the PC.
Oh yeah. I remember late Friday nights playing Counter Strike and StarCraft on my Gateway 2000 with a 3Dfx Voodoo. My Dad would fall asleep on the couch nearby watching antiques roadshow. Classic
That brought back some memories, a cousin of mine had such model back in the day, I helped them set it up and install the PC when they got it.
It came with a collection of software and games which where included by Packard Bell, from what i recall some of the titles where Encarta Encyclopedia, greetings card software, Games Blade Runner and Freddi Fish. They also had A2 racer but not sure if that was a pack-in or they got that loose. For reference this was in the Netherlands, I believe some of the included titles could differ per country/region.
Great machine in its time! I remember dealing with graphical issues almost daily haha... greetings! 😄
Nostalgia hits me again. Nice video
Lovely build - I would’ve been so happy with this back in the day 🎉
You should get yourself an ATX power tester. Those are gold if you attempt such things more often, and don't cost the world either. Note that especially the digital versions have issues with different ATX versions, such as the number of PINs and the presence / absence of secondary 12V and -5V line.
I remember a friend buying this computer new. And we install Quake 1 and setting the video to the 3DFX and playing the game with flawless graphics....damn! Wish I could to that today. Great game for it'd time.
Original Deus Ex AND Oni, I see you're man of culture as well
In late 1997 ny dad came home with our first computer. Its was a Packard Bell
133mhz processor with MMX (clocking it to 166mhz)
A 1.5 MB graphics card
1.8 gig hard drive
And a whopping 16mb Ram.
The screen had built in speakers.
A stand alone microphone and a remote.
It ran on Windows 95 and killed everything we threw at it.
2000 bucks for this beast ❤❤
nicely done getting it back at it
A great video. It really takes me back as my family had one of these exact machines (including the funky CRT with the side mounted speakers) as the family PC when I was growing up. I remember it came bundled with Diablo and Alpha Centauri.
Nice find
Fantastic video dude! Love it! Keep on keeping on!
I love melty early 2000s design!
Fantastic.
Voodoo 2 was legend. I had one back in the day. It only did the actual 3D part. The 2D part was done by the integrated graphics.
Kinda SLC before SLC was a thing (Not really, but lets put it that way so the kids understand what i am talking about lol)
thank you for give them new life again!
I forgot just how 8:42 used to make your household look so smart and advanced, without even turning it on. Best house decoration of all time 😂
I loved Slot 1 boards!
Nice! Still remember my 3dfx.
I'm glad you got into my recommended lol, you make great videos and I hope more people starts to watch more videos
Fantastic find man. Nice repair too. 👍
Have you considered cleaning the board with a flamethrower? It usually cleans off the dust right away
awesome video!
You shouldn’t power stuff on while resting on anti static bags - it’s conductive!
Good point! Totally didn’t think of that, but yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Parts are ready just waiting for shipment
great restoration! you have prety neat editing skills too, and overall presentation is also well done. You earned a sub, keep it up my dude :)
awesome work man!
It's beautiful
Ahh right in the old school pc feels. Part of me misses windows 98 because I spent a lot of time installing it on pcs back in the day.
This is a good video for youtube to recommend me.
Well god damn, where we have our second household computer I grew up with! My goodness!
Vilket jäkla hjältejobb för att få igång den, all heder! 👌🏻
Lol this is a funny video, I've had the EXACT same PC as my first computer back in 1998 !, The PIII slot processor (Katmai core if I'm not mistaken), 64Mb of SDR-SDRAM and the Voodoo 3. I've had a lot of fun with it back in the day, I played a lot of Unreal Tournament and C&C Red Alert 2 with it :)
Man i love it when they put the sticker crooked ...
It probably sold in my native Netherlands. As the advertisement in the beginning is in Dutch.
There were a lot of Packard Bell's being sold back then. I seem to remember they were generally being targeted as family PC's.
I had this exact pc when I was a kid but I had the P3 450, the onboard voodoo 3 was abit of a pain to get running in a few games.
I had issues with games like redguard and Diablo 2, I remember the textures would do weird things like overlap or not be on the correct spot. But I remember all the kids in my street being jelly I had a pc that could play dvds lol
Lots of work but it was worth saving the board and PC.
I had a PIII 550MHz with the Voodoo 3 8MB onboard. Was really cool for Quake, interstate 76 and Need for Speed games with the 3dfx Glide.
Surprisingly clean inside for a pc so old. I mean, yea, there was dust, but pc's that old are usually MUCH worse.
hi thankyou ,loved my watch , takes me back to my first pc back in 1999 pentuim 3 600, may of been a pb, i upgraded to 64mbits of ram new psu and a 3dfx oor voodoo card ,cost me 299.00 to upgrade lol
That video ram chip upgrade.. would that work for other chips to upgrade it? I've been wondering that for 20 years.
That’s cool I didn’t know there was official 3dfx case stickers
I have a Packard Bell laptop with Intel Centrino from 2002 that still works :)
This was awesome
very cool find!
I like how stylish the PC is
Very interesting motherboard... Makes me wonder if they ever made a laptop flavor. Apparently 2 versions of that motherboard, V1 had 8mb and V2 had 16mb for the voodoo
Amazing Case from '90s];-D... .
at 9 mins that sound soooooo good
Got it!
holy cow, i've never seen an integrated 3dfx mainboard
Well that is interesting, don't remember integrated Voodoo3 either!
I still have my Dell Dimension XPS 700 from this era. PIII 700Mhz, 128 or maybe 256? megs ram, RIVA TNT2 32 meg GPU, US Robotics 56k modem, and a Soundblaster Live! audio card. Got it in late Oct/Nov 1999 to play EverQuest 😊
Good shit, my man. Subscribed.
Heroes III 😍
My first pc was a Packard Bell but it was a lowly 486 sx-33 with 4mb ram, 170mb hdd, cirrus logic 1mb video card, no optical drive and no soundcard. I bought and installed a Soundblaster Pro 2.0 in it(my first ever upgrade to a pc) and I found it to be a decent upgrade from my Amiga 500+
You would have been eating pretty good with this system around 1999/2000. DVD drive stock is a great touch too.
I would definitely enjoy upgrading the VRAM on that strange mobo if only to satisfy my curiosity
Nice video, I enjoyed it while having breakfast.
Say, would it be possible to upgrade the Voodoo 3 RAM like a 1.6 XBOX via piggybacking and chip-select?
I’m not familiar with the XBOX upgrade, but it’s possible to get the Voodoo 3 up to 16MB, yes.
@@OddObsolete Neat.
Packard bell was the apple of pc world. Always had some different stuff