Narrator: "and in all that mighty sweep of earth he saw no sign of man nor the handiwork of man." Humans: Alright, lets colony drop those blue morons and unleash the assembly drones.
Managed to developp interstellar travel but Still cant produce an arrow proof glass... They could easily have equipement absolutely indestructible by the indigenous, Naavi or the fauna. Heck a few B-29 at high altitude, fully analog would do the job easily...
@@vacciniumaugustifolium1420 The battle in the first movie, Na'vi vs Homo S. Sapiens, should have been a harder curbstomp on the side of the humans than the entirety of the US military invading the Amazonas to fight the indigenous tribes there. I.e., not a fight whatsoever and a righteous human victory!
@@alanderek1231 I imagine the situation being quite similar in terms of outcome had it been military contractors or armed mine workers. One AK-47 vs Amazonian tribespeople still results in a lot of dead Amazonian tribespeople, which is exactly what the Na'vi are supposed to be. And I imagine the humans to be armed with far more deadly weaponry than Kalashnikovs!
If humans have technology like this, Earth shouldn’t be “dying.” Regardless, all the human technology in this movie was great, from the weapons to infrastructure.
I believe its because the damage to earth was too severe for the current level of technology to even reverse the damage on earth's environment since the early 2000s.
As far as we know, tech by itself can't sustain life. You need a large network of organisms called a "biosphere". If humanity mostly wiped that out, and the massive global use of tech prevents it from bouncing back, then humanity on Earth is screwed. Now, if they had re-wilding efforts, shrunk their footprint so they can leave a big chunk of the Earth's surface to become covered in a self-sustained biosphere, and people would integrate their practices into said biosphere so their practices are part of the loop instead of just extractive , then they might have a chance. Ultimately they would need to re-think, and re-egineer their whole society and values, and how their tech works. It's quite the task. It's easier mentally not to change, and to just continue expansion and consumption if you have the tech to do that. It's easier to just keep doing what you know, if you can get away with it. Eventually Pandora, like Earth, would be destroyed and made not habitable even for humans, IF they are brining to Pandora the same values and tech use, as people have organized themselves on Earth.
Why not? All technological advancement in building, military and stuff like this doesn't really help if you fully exploited a planet. In the few (Deleted) Earth scenes of Avatar 1 we see the Planet is a cyberpunk dystopia with no natural greenerie left most people wear air masks in normal life. Earth likely has no natural recources left and it's ecosystem almost completely collapsed.
@@TheKaa09I wonder if humanity have explore the option of terraforming and colonizing the other planets in the solar system in the Avatar timeline. If not, it could indicate that we don't have the large terraforming tech and still need to find suitable planet to colonize instead.
I love how Humanity was supposed to be portrayed as the bad ones. Instead we have people in the comment section geeking out on how awsome humanity looks like in the movie 😂😂😂. I love it
Man I just love that shot in Avatar 1 of The Valkyrie when the Humans was going to war for the final battle. The way Cameron show the sheer sizes of vehicles and object by having them side by side with another object we already know the size of. The whole movie we know the Dragon Assault Ship was big because of its comparisons to the Samson and Scorpion. But that leaving for Battle scene we see the Assault Dragon than BOOM we see the Valkyrie Shuttle right behind it and how bigger it was. Mind you the shuttle was looking small the entire movie compares to the ISV. I just love it. He also did this earlier with the RDA Bulldozer and the Excavator both those humans walking beside the bulldozer BUT the Excavator in the background making the bulldozers look small. I just love Cameron’s Avatar films. He can flex all his cinema magic in Avatar.
Bridgecity has a zone enclosing the city which is called the Kill Zone. This has no grass nor trees since they wanted zero influence of nature, so they were defending themselves against Eywa. This was a city in development so this makes me wonder how it will be shown in the next movies when the city is finally built
Gonna guess they're going to plant Earth placed plants in the buffer zone, so only Earth based plants live there and Eyowa can't do anything about them. Long term they will plant more Earth based plants, which will transform the CO2 into oxygen and pretty much kill the whole native wildlife and turn Pandora into another dystopian Earth.
@@peacemen6460 spending time on a platform can help you train with it, getting used to being twice as large. Knowing how to do hand-to-hand combat is hard, doing so in an exoskeleton suit which makes you twice as large can also be very disorienting for the user hence the punching bag. We do see the guys using the suit to wield heavy weapons which is very useful cause they’re not constrained by the limit of the human body.
believe it or not, its not just the exoskeleton thats cgi...its HER aswell, in the shot where she is hitting the punching bag, it is an entirely CG digi-double.
It's a really tiny detail but I love the fact that at 01:28 a soldier stops to salute the general, whereas the construction workers do not. Really shows the delineation between the civilians and military populations of Bridgehead City
I think what the movie couldn’t accounted for was the design elements and culture, which I understand. This looked like a more advanced version of human civilization yet it still has cultural elements that are familiar to us. If you wind back a hundred, two hundred years watching people making predictions of the future it’s always a more advanced version of the 1800s and 1900s with the same style and culture.
I actually wrote a story that has that idea, before an attack superstorm activity, which is reinforced by Pandora’s magnetic field disrupts the base systems
@@kupper123 not with the forest & water people .. I am pretty sure that Jake will unite most, if not all of the clans together against the base to finally a put an end into the sky people The forest people yet alone the water tribe wouldn’t make it far that’s why I’m sure more clans will get involved by the 3rd if not the 4th movie
Let’s be honest the Na’vi shouldn’t have won the first war let alone be winning the 2nd one. I mean in the span of a year they’ve built a small city on Pandora! Imagine what the city will look like in 5-10 years?! Only the writers and a metric shit ton of plot armor will let the Na’vi win. Period.
@@rainbowsixODST within that year that the sky people were building their base the forest clan would’ve easily won … (with jakes help of course ) But idk why they didn’t do anything for that year I mean yes they stopped a few raids or whatever but man..
When humanity tells you they are done playing around and are now here to stay ... buckle up, na'vi or you learn how to be a part of the famous list-of-endagered-species.
smart move on clearing a larger open space so any enemies wouldn't have any cover. also love those turrets 0:17. i really hope we get to see more of the base/bases i keep going back and looking at all the activity going on. bit strange that the colonel is randomly beating a punching bag, i would have expected her to be supervising what is going on then turn to quadric.
The mech scene is a callback and contrast to Quaritch shadow boxing. This scene shows how much faster and more efficient the new RDA is in a physical sense.
I’m calling it out right now, I think the general being in the mech suit while beating on the punching bag is foreshadowing of Quaritch and her fighting in the next film. There is a strange hostility between the two, especially when Quaritch shows sympathy for Spider, which is something he’s refusing to quit doing.
When I first saw the Recoms in the trailer, I thought they were Na’vi who willingly accepted an alliance with humanity in exchange for technology and the opportunity to settle old scores with enemies. I frankly think that would’ve been an interesting angle to explore in Way of Water, and something I feel would happen as I doubt every single individual Na’vi thinks the exact same way. This could also be a parallel to early colonialism of the Americas that the series seems fond on, as there were Central American tribes that willingly allied with the conquistadors to get some payback for the years of slavery and terror inflicted upon them by the Maya civilization and Aztec Empire.
If that was the case, it would've been more akind to south Vietnam and programs like the CIDG and ARVN, who acted as guides for american regulars and special operations, not to the mention local tribes allied with south Vietnam that had a firm grip of their territory and made it safe for any incoming allied patrols
Definetly, Hernán Cortés and his conquistadors won not because they had better technology, but because of all the allies they acquired on the way to Tenochtitlan (although the technology gap between the humans and the na'vi is much wider in these movies)
See that's a good idea that could have some interesting consequences and events occurring around that concept. However: that requires them to drop the tired, black and white notion of "Humans only evil and dirty" and "Aliens are pure and innocent" then write some actual damn nuance to this actual complicated situation. But I don't think that will happen.
@@Starcraftgamer97You took the words out of my mouth. James Cameron hates humanity and it's sickening watching the fanbase of this degeneracy cheer on their own demise, people are so easily swayed. Humanity first.
0:14 god this frame reminds me of a factorio playthrough i had a while ago, i imagine that's how it looked like when i returned to my base after "peacefully securing land" for my factory.
As a project manager for large construction firm the robots building an entire building in 6 days sounds very interesting......killer tech there but it makes sense to establish all critical infrastructure and make a stronghold on the planet. Take them by surprise.
Most likely, and since they knew that the planet is hostile to them, they also remove the lives far away from the base and at the same time create a big killzone for the turrets.
@@Boomkokogamezquite smart tbh instead of hella gate with the fence at the tree line. Plus this city is planned to house civilians so they’d want peace of mind when living on a hostile planet
@@borris3768 Check your meds, Borris. Lightstorm Entertainment is not part of Marvel Studios. Both studios are owned by Disney. There is no further connection that between the studios.
This film was good, but it would have been better to see more of the human colonies they've built and the alliances they've made with other Na'vi tribes. The whole war thing was cool, but it would have been more interesting to see the actual human colonies and the na'vi colonies working together to build a better world.
literally should have been a documentary, would have helped us get to know the setting and ironically the characters better, they even had a 16 year time span to have justified an in universe filming period
If humanity wanted to they could literally redirect an asteroid in the system and wipe out the entire planet in one go, or alternatively nuke every major alien population centre (humans literally possess antimatter in the avatar universe). There is no way in hell the primitive aliens win against a literal spacefaring species
Yeah it will be interesting to see what the eventual ending is going to be. How easy will it be for us to tear it apart with logic, or will they actually come up with a cool concept for it. My guess is that "immune response" which keeps people out of the floating mountains spreads further. The patch of sand this city is built on is actually the result of the ISVs antimatter engines we see during the landing sequence. Gamma radiation sterilized it a kilometer deep, and unlike a nuke, leaves it habitable for humanity probably after a bit of clean up. I think the real thing that will hold humanity back in these movies is politics. Remember this is still just a corporation. Imagine what is happening back home on Earth, protestors and lawsuits from their mistreatment of the locals fauna.
I just wish in the movie there were more effects of the Pandoran atmosphere leaking in like the first movie im sure everyone remembers the cool scene in the start of 1 when the ramp of the ship gets lowered
My favourite part of this scene was the Valkyrie shuttle landed and Colonel Quaritch and his 1st Recom squad and the new RDA civilian employees and new rookies RDA troops arriving at the beautiful amazing looking new Bridgehead City it’s one of the best futuristic cities, I’ve ever seen just like that city in the Halo video game universe on our colony planet Reach New Alexandria right guys ow and when Colonel Miles was giving his squad the mission task, Your not in Kansas anymore, We’re going to Pandora that early scene on early in the movie, I did see in obtaining our new home world that more VSV Star ships there besides the colonel’s as well do you think there are more Valkyries on them too like over 50 or 60 new RDA employees and troops on them landing on the other RDA checkpoints on Pandora like Hell’s Gate 🤔 but anyway way what do you guys think but still like seeing all those new recruits here to help us stop those blue monsters from making peace with us since High Ground comic story part and now it’s time for us to win this war that Jake Sully created and rid his evil sick ways once and for all!
I had an argument with friends after watching the first Avatar because I wanted the humans to win and felt bad for them. Watching this makes me wish for a game set in that universe, sort of like Space engineers or factorio where you gotta build up a base and expand the colony with other players. All the while having to deal with the locals.
How is that going to happen there’s probably over 4 or 5 million humans on Pandora this time and more are pouring in in about over time they’ll probably over 12 million of them at that points the humans will overrun the Navi permanently and that will likely happen like 65% or 85% indeed not good at you blue devil alien Thetheorizermoore7476 boy sorry but your blue devil alien must die if you and them never want peace at all 100% so sorry get ready because this time the Navi villainy is going down this time and it’s won’t be great for your people to stop screaming noooooo because you lose the war you blue monkey devil’s created a war that your never going to win indeed!
One hand, the technology, especially the Valkyrie Shuttle are awesome (C-17 and Space Shuttle combo), wanting humans to survive but also want Pandora’s ecosystem unharmed. If humans can clone navi avatars, why not replicate the anti-aging serum from the tulkan instead going after them continuously. At least one bright spot for the Avatar movies is it’s one the few Hollywood movies that allows hunting (by the navi) for food.
I think a major flaw that james cameron made when writing avatar was making the mining of unobtanium actually really critical for humanity's survival. he could have very easily just made it very valuable for some superfluous reason to emphasize greed and strengthen the parallels to our own history of colonization; but instead unobtanium was like essential for green energy back on earth as well as space exploration which completely altered the meaning of the movie and made it so people actually root for the bad guys.
I don't think that's a bad thing to be honest. Creating sympathy for the antagonists by giving them logical reasoning for their bad deeds, which is a growingly more common trope, makes for a more controversial morality beyond "rich people succumbing to greed". In most cases this makes a film more appealing since it extends things beyond the generic good guys bad guys schematic, a rare occurrence in recent films. I am curious tho on how you see this as a negative quality in the film and would be interested in your reasoning if you would like to elaborate
And plus how many Valkyrie shuttle and dragon ships did they build it’s gonna be a hard time for Jake sully to destroy if they really gather a fleet to attack the rest of the Navi troops
I feel like Pandora would be a awesome setting for a RTS STarcraft like game. i could easy imagine every faction. Humans, they are basic the terrans from Starcraft Navi, they lack guns, but have strong warrior like units who can alone take down many human infantry units but are weak to the big human tanks and they also use the animals of pandora for war;
Now we know why the ISV ships use their antimatter engines to land, insta site clearing for a new City or LZ for the troops. No one sneaking in on that plus perfect building platform.
If you think about it, Na’Vi would be in our exact shoes if we left ‘em alone. Eventually one of ‘em will not be satisfied with what they have, and will opt to defy their tree god and innovate. Good things NEVER last forever, the Na’Vi are no exception to this rule whatsoever.
There are no forcefields in the avatar universe, the closest thing to a "shield" there is what the ISV's use as a meteroid shield. But that still is just a bunch of walls not a proper forcefield
No Forcefields in Hard Sci-Fi but they could encase the city in a large dome, not only would that add a bit of extra protection but it would also allow the humans to walk around outside on the streets without Breathing Masks.
I would really appreciate a full 2 hour documentary about how Bridghead City works and how it was set up in the first place.
It’s 20 times way better looking then Hell’s Gate 100% indeed
@@drewharding Well, Hell's Gate was a mining facility with small force. This one is for colonization.
The lore for this franchise is the only I am even watching it
Same
Narrator: "and in all that mighty sweep of earth he saw no sign of man nor the handiwork of man."
Humans: Alright, lets colony drop those blue morons and unleash the assembly drones.
The human tech in this movie is 💯.
Managed to developp interstellar travel but Still cant produce an arrow proof glass... They could easily have equipement absolutely indestructible by the indigenous, Naavi or the fauna.
Heck a few B-29 at high altitude, fully analog would do the job easily...
@@vacciniumaugustifolium1420 The battle in the first movie, Na'vi vs Homo S. Sapiens, should have been a harder curbstomp on the side of the humans than the entirety of the US military invading the Amazonas to fight the indigenous tribes there. I.e., not a fight whatsoever and a righteous human victory!
@@MrFusionCube i mean it wasnt the entire human military it was a militia made up of underpaid mine workers
@@alanderek1231 I imagine the situation being quite similar in terms of outcome had it been military contractors or armed mine workers. One AK-47 vs Amazonian tribespeople still results in a lot of dead Amazonian tribespeople, which is exactly what the Na'vi are supposed to be. And I imagine the humans to be armed with far more deadly weaponry than Kalashnikovs!
@@MrFusionCube yeah tribes people who can shoot an arrow the size of a broom handle at the speed of a 50 caliber
If humans have technology like this, Earth shouldn’t be “dying.” Regardless, all the human technology in this movie was great, from the weapons to infrastructure.
I believe its because the damage to earth was too severe for the current level of technology to even reverse the damage on earth's environment since the early 2000s.
As far as we know, tech by itself can't sustain life. You need a large network of organisms called a "biosphere". If humanity mostly wiped that out, and the massive global use of tech prevents it from bouncing back, then humanity on Earth is screwed. Now, if they had re-wilding efforts, shrunk their footprint so they can leave a big chunk of the Earth's surface to become covered in a self-sustained biosphere, and people would integrate their practices into said biosphere so their practices are part of the loop instead of just extractive , then they might have a chance. Ultimately they would need to re-think, and re-egineer their whole society and values, and how their tech works. It's quite the task.
It's easier mentally not to change, and to just continue expansion and consumption if you have the tech to do that. It's easier to just keep doing what you know, if you can get away with it. Eventually Pandora, like Earth, would be destroyed and made not habitable even for humans, IF they are brining to Pandora the same values and tech use, as people have organized themselves on Earth.
Why not? All technological advancement in building, military and stuff like this doesn't really help if you fully exploited a planet.
In the few (Deleted) Earth scenes of Avatar 1 we see the Planet is a cyberpunk dystopia with no natural greenerie left most people wear air masks in normal life. Earth likely has no natural recources left and it's ecosystem almost completely collapsed.
@@TheKaa09I wonder if humanity have explore the option of terraforming and colonizing the other planets in the solar system in the Avatar timeline. If not, it could indicate that we don't have the large terraforming tech and still need to find suitable planet to colonize instead.
@@absboodoofrom what the wiki said Moon and Mars are being terraformed or atleast colonized with Moon holding the most people as of current timeline
I love how Humanity was supposed to be portrayed as the bad ones. Instead we have people in the comment section geeking out on how awsome humanity looks like in the movie 😂😂😂. I love it
You can’t just give the humans cool mech suits and vehicles and not expect us to be on the right side
@jotarokujo7632 yeah bro like who wanna side with blue tall guys with bow and arrows we want a mech suit
@@fbi8372 Alien coochie is temporary, Armored Core is eternal.
Keep in mind, it’s kinda hard to root against your own species even if they are the bad guys.
@@TY-PO Really? I think it's pretty damn easy.
The Valkyrie still looks gorgeous after all these years.
Yes! Ah, magnificent shuttle~
Disagree - still looking as fat as ever.
Man I just love that shot in Avatar 1 of The Valkyrie when the Humans was going to war for the final battle. The way Cameron show the sheer sizes of vehicles and object by having them side by side with another object we already know the size of. The whole movie we know the Dragon Assault Ship was big because of its comparisons to the Samson and Scorpion. But that leaving for Battle scene we see the Assault Dragon than BOOM we see the Valkyrie Shuttle right behind it and how bigger it was. Mind you the shuttle was looking small the entire movie compares to the ISV. I just love it.
He also did this earlier with the RDA Bulldozer and the Excavator both those humans walking beside the bulldozer BUT the Excavator in the background making the bulldozers look small. I just love Cameron’s Avatar films. He can flex all his cinema magic in Avatar.
Bridgecity has a zone enclosing the city which is called the Kill Zone. This has no grass nor trees since they wanted zero influence of nature, so they were defending themselves against Eywa. This was a city in development so this makes me wonder how it will be shown in the next movies when the city is finally built
Similar to Vietnam.
@@CaptainBardiel Many things resemble Vietnam's war starting by Quaritch
I wonder how it’ll be a plot point in future movies
Gonna guess they're going to plant Earth placed plants in the buffer zone, so only Earth based plants live there and Eyowa can't do anything about them. Long term they will plant more Earth based plants, which will transform the CO2 into oxygen and pretty much kill the whole native wildlife and turn Pandora into another dystopian Earth.
I mean im pretty sure that was made by the rockets but yea that works too 😅
I hope we get to spend more time in Bridgehead City in Avatar 3! It's supposed to become to home for 2 million human colonists!
The battle of bridgehead is probably the finale of part 3
And it’s expanding constantly. There will be full blown neighborhoods, suburbs, downtowns, schools, bars, clubs I can’t wait to see this thing.
@Striker Bowls Hopefully we actually win.
@@gj9157 what?
@@jaybanks3463 Exactly what I said
The CGI was so well made, I can’t even tell the General’s exoskeleton suit was fake, it looked that good.
Geez why do she have to exercise with it doesnt that void the exoskeleton purpose?
@@peacemen6460 spending time on a platform can help you train with it, getting used to being twice as large. Knowing how to do hand-to-hand combat is hard, doing so in an exoskeleton suit which makes you twice as large can also be very disorienting for the user hence the punching bag. We do see the guys using the suit to wield heavy weapons which is very useful cause they’re not constrained by the limit of the human body.
@@peacemen6460basically what danny said above, they're basically heavy equipment still. You wouldn't want that thing in the hands of a clueless dude.
believe it or not, its not just the exoskeleton thats cgi...its HER aswell, in the shot where she is hitting the punching bag, it is an entirely CG digi-double.
You can tell that the people who designed the human city for this movie played a lot of Factorio lol
now just wait for the artillery Navi won't even know what hits them
The factory must grow.
The artillery train must expand
Conquest is inevitable.
It's a really tiny detail but I love the fact that at 01:28 a soldier stops to salute the general, whereas the construction workers do not. Really shows the delineation between the civilians and military populations of Bridgehead City
Perfect detail
Civilians are not obligated to salute an officer.
@@cinnamon-skateboarding5987 yeah that was my point. I now realize I didn't word it as well as I could have.
I am just watching these movies for the human tech and judging by the comments I am not the only one fascinated by it
They're just so dang gorgeous.
@@thestudentofficial5483this is what Sci Fi is supposed to do, inspire us to advance
I really like how this movie didn’t go overboard with the sci-fi. This is exactly how I can envision humanity in 100 to 200 years.
Exactly, not laser guns and all that, even the clothes are just like today and not some aluminum foil stuff lol
I think what the movie couldn’t accounted for was the design elements and culture, which I understand. This looked like a more advanced version of human civilization yet it still has cultural elements that are familiar to us.
If you wind back a hundred, two hundred years watching people making predictions of the future it’s always a more advanced version of the 1800s and 1900s with the same style and culture.
@@natanhaelalvarado6137I mean we do have laser weapons already…
imagine the na'vi trying to attack this base
They wouldn't make it halfway to the wall.
I actually wrote a story that has that idea, before an attack superstorm activity, which is reinforced by Pandora’s magnetic field disrupts the base systems
@@kupper123 not with the forest & water people ..
I am pretty sure that Jake will unite most, if not all of the clans together against the base to finally a put an end into the sky people
The forest people yet alone the water tribe wouldn’t make it far that’s why I’m sure more clans will get involved by the 3rd if not the 4th movie
Let’s be honest the Na’vi shouldn’t have won the first war let alone be winning the 2nd one. I mean in the span of a year they’ve built a small city on Pandora! Imagine what the city will look like in 5-10 years?! Only the writers and a metric shit ton of plot armor will let the Na’vi win. Period.
@@rainbowsixODST within that year that the sky people were building their base the forest clan would’ve easily won … (with jakes help of course )
But idk why they didn’t do anything for that year I mean yes they stopped a few raids or whatever but man..
When humanity tells you they are done playing around and are now here to stay ... buckle up, na'vi or you learn how to be a part of the famous list-of-endagered-species.
well the humans don't have a choice because they will be the endangered species list if they don't win.
Human rights are called that for a reason
I think you misinterpreted these movies. This isn't Aliens.
@@VrangsynnHuman Rights....and lefts!
Pretty cool how they made the mech in this scene more agile and slim like the Navi
The thing that makes humanity scary, we learn volumes from our defeats
smart move on clearing a larger open space so any enemies wouldn't have any cover. also love those turrets 0:17. i really hope we get to see more of the base/bases i keep going back and looking at all the activity going on. bit strange that the colonel is randomly beating a punching bag, i would have expected her to be supervising what is going on then turn to quadric.
Cameron style introduce big military characters or villains by working out
I remember Quaritch was shadow boxing with the mech in the first one
@@DirByHasan that was more of a quick test of the controls though
The mech scene is a callback and contrast to Quaritch shadow boxing. This scene shows how much faster and more efficient the new RDA is in a physical sense.
The suit seems to be meant for head in combat with navi. Also notice the bag was blue. Targets.
I’m calling it out right now, I think the general being in the mech suit while beating on the punching bag is foreshadowing of Quaritch and her fighting in the next film. There is a strange hostility between the two, especially when Quaritch shows sympathy for Spider, which is something he’s refusing to quit doing.
When I first saw the Recoms in the trailer, I thought they were Na’vi who willingly accepted an alliance with humanity in exchange for technology and the opportunity to settle old scores with enemies. I frankly think that would’ve been an interesting angle to explore in Way of Water, and something I feel would happen as I doubt every single individual Na’vi thinks the exact same way.
This could also be a parallel to early colonialism of the Americas that the series seems fond on, as there were Central American tribes that willingly allied with the conquistadors to get some payback for the years of slavery and terror inflicted upon them by the Maya civilization and Aztec Empire.
If that was the case, it would've been more akind to south Vietnam and programs like the CIDG and ARVN, who acted as guides for american regulars and special operations, not to the mention local tribes allied with south Vietnam that had a firm grip of their territory and made it safe for any incoming allied patrols
Definetly, Hernán Cortés and his conquistadors won not because they had better technology, but because of all the allies they acquired on the way to Tenochtitlan (although the technology gap between the humans and the na'vi is much wider in these movies)
See that's a good idea that could have some interesting consequences and events occurring around that concept.
However: that requires them to drop the tired, black and white notion of "Humans only evil and dirty" and "Aliens are pure and innocent" then write some actual damn nuance to this actual complicated situation. But I don't think that will happen.
@@Starcraftgamer97You took the words out of my mouth. James Cameron hates humanity and it's sickening watching the fanbase of this degeneracy cheer on their own demise, people are so easily swayed. Humanity first.
If they can back up memories, why do they need the whale-juice?
I really hope humanity succeeds.
Don’t betray your species!
Sometimes your species is wrong
@@frankiel3767humans is always right it's called human rights. And aliens doesn't have rights dude they aren't humans. And humanity's first
@@frankiel3767not this time!
@@frankiel3767it's a battle for survival. You would do anything to keep your family alive wouldn't you
I mean it’s not like you have swear an oath to humanity so your not fully betraying them by joining the Navi … kinda, ok maybe a little
I would watch Nat Geo documentary about construction of Bridgehead city😅
I'm honestly excited to see more of General Ardmore. She seems legitimately interesting.
Carmela Soprano sure done better after Tony died
@@FatGouf Wait, the woman playing her was on the sopranos?
@@FatGoufif only she had shut the dooooooooor
Is played by Edie Falco who played Carmela Soprano
Carmela soprano dealt with her grief after her husbands death by fleeing to another planet and becoming a general.
I imagine this small city being slowly turned into humanity’s permanent settlement on Pandora later in the sequels.
In the beginning of the video,the way camera get a close shot to the aircraft is the brilliance of cinematography 🔥🔥
general quartich great man, great guy, the hero of planet earth
Sadly demoted to colonel for the time being
All these happened just because some human wanted some of the blue alien pucchi
I love the little spider robots! They remind me of Canoptek Scarabs! Or a smaller Canoptek Spyder.
I know everybody geeks out about the military stuff, but those construction droids with the spider legs are really cool.
0:14 god this frame reminds me of a factorio playthrough i had a while ago, i imagine that's how it looked like when i returned to my base after "peacefully securing land" for my factory.
first time I saw this city I just wanted to be there. So badass
1st Recom was the most badass part of this movie
As a project manager for large construction firm the robots building an entire building in 6 days sounds very interesting......killer tech there but it makes sense to establish all critical infrastructure and make a stronghold on the planet. Take them by surprise.
Humans already achieved inter planetary space travel, and colonization, they already mastered the system
0:06 that vast treeless area was made by the RDA spaceships burning hectares of forest with their rocket exhausts
Most likely, and since they knew that the planet is hostile to them, they also remove the lives far away from the base and at the same time create a big killzone for the turrets.
@@Boomkokogamezquite smart tbh instead of hella gate with the fence at the tree line. Plus this city is planned to house civilians so they’d want peace of mind when living on a hostile planet
Yup. You see the burn marks on the ground
The CGI in this film is gorgeous, unlike any Marvel and DC film over the last 2 years.
This is a marvel movie wtf you talking about
@@borris3768 Check your meds, Borris. Lightstorm Entertainment is not part of Marvel Studios. Both studios are owned by Disney. There is no further connection that between the studios.
u high bro?@@borris3768
@@borris3768avatar has nothing to do with marvel
I like General Ardmore's voice sounds as a loyal member of RDA
This film was good, but it would have been better to see more of the human colonies they've built and the alliances they've made with other Na'vi tribes. The whole war thing was cool, but it would have been more interesting to see the actual human colonies and the na'vi colonies working together to build a better world.
Bridgeway City looks so cool! :)
NGL, Im always rooting for the humans.
The Emperor protects. 😂
THE EMPEROR'S LIGHT GUIDES MY PATH!
Suffer not the alien to live.
Beware the alien, the mutant, the heretic.
1:15 DARPA better take note of this type of welder robot.
That seems like a cool construction robot
Spider bot to care for general welding, heavy lifting, etc? Cool
Look how humanity really doesn't discriminate the Na'vi they just reject savagery!!
yeah even in first movie they build avatar program basically as a diplomat between Navi and Human, and yet 1 human decided to dip some alien
Miles Quaritch might be the best thing about the movie
He has more character development then the protagonists
literally should have been a documentary, would have helped us get to know the setting and ironically the characters better, they even had a 16 year time span to have justified an in universe filming period
Bridgehead City is how I imagine my GDI base would look like playing Command & Conquer Tiberium Sun. I mean it has turrets, factories, walls etc. 😅
Mmmhmm dam right no need for those effin Crawlers
They build this for a whole year?!
Yeah. All thanks to 3D Printing and their Swarm Assemblers aka Hexbots
All those humans are coming to Pandora when the Bridgehead City is complete
They can’t live there, it’s dangerous. Plus the air is poisonous.
@@Sahilprakash1999 how can they live here if humans can't breath here?
Long Life Mankind.
she carries herself like a reasonable leader, a good superior for Recom-Q to take notes from. Especially since he's more chill now
ZEPPLINS!
Right there in the background❤
When I first saw the human base. Its such a super transformation. Especially the rapid building. They learned from the first battle.
I find no way how these village people will be able to beat out humanity in the end 🤷♂️
If humanity wanted to they could literally redirect an asteroid in the system and wipe out the entire planet in one go, or alternatively nuke every major alien population centre (humans literally possess antimatter in the avatar universe). There is no way in hell the primitive aliens win against a literal spacefaring species
The Navi either lose or its plot armor. Or somehow the humans destroy themselves.
@@Zoey_96cx Of course plot armor lmao, literally one bullet on the human side actually hits its mark in this movie.
Yeah it will be interesting to see what the eventual ending is going to be. How easy will it be for us to tear it apart with logic, or will they actually come up with a cool concept for it. My guess is that "immune response" which keeps people out of the floating mountains spreads further.
The patch of sand this city is built on is actually the result of the ISVs antimatter engines we see during the landing sequence. Gamma radiation sterilized it a kilometer deep, and unlike a nuke, leaves it habitable for humanity probably after a bit of clean up.
I think the real thing that will hold humanity back in these movies is politics. Remember this is still just a corporation. Imagine what is happening back home on Earth, protestors and lawsuits from their mistreatment of the locals fauna.
@@sam23696You'd be surprised that humanity on the brink of extinction & knowing Jake Sully's Betrayal might change minds
0:17 That turrets reminds me of Cashtan soviet CIWS, looks awesome
Small detail I just noticed, 0:36 you can see another Dragon gunship in the background, the same kind in the first movie
I just wish in the movie there were more effects of the Pandoran atmosphere leaking in like the first movie im sure everyone remembers the cool scene in the start of 1 when the ramp of the ship gets lowered
Welcome to Bridgehead City, our main base HQ.
I was melting in the cinema, seeing the Valkyrie again~
City Look's like most part of bases in Factorio game.
My favourite part of this scene was the Valkyrie shuttle landed and Colonel Quaritch and his 1st Recom squad and the new RDA civilian employees and new rookies RDA troops arriving at the beautiful amazing looking new Bridgehead City it’s one of the best futuristic cities, I’ve ever seen just like that city in the Halo video game universe on our colony planet Reach New Alexandria right guys ow and when Colonel Miles was giving his squad the mission task, Your not in Kansas anymore, We’re going to Pandora that early scene on early in the movie, I did see in obtaining our new home world that more VSV Star ships there besides the colonel’s as well do you think there are more Valkyries on them too like over 50 or 60 new RDA employees and troops on them landing on the other RDA checkpoints on Pandora like Hell’s Gate 🤔 but anyway way what do you guys think but still like seeing all those new recruits here to help us stop those blue monsters from making peace with us since High Ground comic story part and now it’s time for us to win this war that Jake Sully created and rid his evil sick ways once and for all!
Phenomenally
No, it's "Phenomenal".
I had an argument with friends after watching the first Avatar because I wanted the humans to win and felt bad for them. Watching this makes me wish for a game set in that universe, sort of like Space engineers or factorio where you gotta build up a base and expand the colony with other players. All the while having to deal with the locals.
Carmella looking for the Naavi shinebox
Well I do believe this city will become the new hell gate in a later movie and the rda defeated again
How is that going to happen there’s probably over 4 or 5 million humans on Pandora this time and more are pouring in in about over time they’ll probably over 12 million of them at that points the humans will overrun the Navi permanently and that will likely happen like 65% or 85% indeed not good at you blue devil alien Thetheorizermoore7476 boy sorry but your blue devil alien must die if you and them never want peace at all 100% so sorry get ready because this time the Navi villainy is going down this time and it’s won’t be great for your people to stop screaming noooooo because you lose the war you blue monkey devil’s created a war that your never going to win indeed!
Main Character plot armor.
Even though humans are the bad guys their tech is 🔥
female general that actually look like a realistic female general
He looks and sounds like an avatar version of R Lee Ermey!
Long life human race
I love the new camouflage! It looks better than the DDPAT they used in the 2009 avatar.
its like an evolution of Tigerstripe and its awesome
Our new home
@💧EmKing💧 エムキング No but Jake had a twin brother few years back and he was rich.
When he died, his money went to Jake
@🌗NVトライガン🌓 The soldiers and workers of the rich will also get to live there as a reward
@Deernailt He went there for free because his brother was dead the other people replaced him.
Quaritch was the best part of this movie
I used to see him as the villain but he’s more of a hero if you think about it
One hand, the technology, especially the Valkyrie Shuttle are awesome (C-17 and Space Shuttle combo), wanting humans to survive but also want Pandora’s ecosystem unharmed. If humans can clone navi avatars, why not replicate the anti-aging serum from the tulkan instead going after them continuously. At least one bright spot for the Avatar movies is it’s one the few Hollywood movies that allows hunting (by the navi) for food.
Sound effects awesome 😎
Love this movie form
Cambodia ❤
They said Bridgehead is based on Long Beach in California.
Colonel Quaritch and his RDA Marines are arriving in Bridgehead City
Bridgehead City A New Military Base
No it’s gonna be a new colony for humanity ig
First time Edie Falco playing a villain
This place is giving me the matrix machine city vibes.
I F*ckinf love Humanity.
Avatar wearing tac gears and oakleys hell yeah! two things are missing though.. a giant m4 and a gian NV's lmao
Ain’t no way Carmella soprano is the general now
RDA really liked factorio
Humans the Powerful species in this universe
Well Carmella had a lot of work to do since Tony was shot at the end of Sopranos but I see she's doing well.
They learned. they destroyed all forest surrounding them.
I think a major flaw that james cameron made when writing avatar was making the mining of unobtanium actually really critical for humanity's survival. he could have very easily just made it very valuable for some superfluous reason to emphasize greed and strengthen the parallels to our own history of colonization; but instead unobtanium was like essential for green energy back on earth as well as space exploration which completely altered the meaning of the movie and made it so people actually root for the bad guys.
I don't think that's a bad thing to be honest. Creating sympathy for the antagonists by giving them logical reasoning for their bad deeds, which is a growingly more common trope, makes for a more controversial morality beyond "rich people succumbing to greed". In most cases this makes a film more appealing since it extends things beyond the generic good guys bad guys schematic, a rare occurrence in recent films. I am curious tho on how you see this as a negative quality in the film and would be interested in your reasoning if you would like to elaborate
So is it possible that we can see the city battle on Pandora
Team human
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the arachnid type bots are cool😢
And plus how many Valkyrie shuttle and dragon ships did they build it’s gonna be a hard time for Jake sully to destroy if they really gather a fleet to attack the rest of the Navi troops
Went from a private companies mining operation to THAT
As much as i know that the humans in this franchise are bad, i still want my mech suits ahahaha
damn General Ardmore she's tough but she is a Marine
She is the general, our leader on Pandora Bridgehead City
Sorry aliens, only one species was made in God's image. 😎
I feel like Pandora would be a awesome setting for a RTS STarcraft like game.
i could easy imagine every faction.
Humans, they are basic the terrans from Starcraft
Navi, they lack guns, but have strong warrior like units who can alone take down many human infantry units but are weak to the big human tanks and they also use the animals of pandora for war;
Human first ❤
Like something you see in titanfall
Now we know why the ISV ships use their antimatter engines to land, insta site clearing for a new City or LZ for the troops. No one sneaking in on that plus perfect building platform.
If you think about it, Na’Vi would be in our exact shoes if we left ‘em alone.
Eventually one of ‘em will not be satisfied with what they have, and will opt to defy their tree god and innovate.
Good things NEVER last forever, the Na’Vi are no exception to this rule whatsoever.
If Carmela left and took the children with her (what was left of them).
In A3 it will look like Night City I bet.
0:05 that circle wall they should put a forcefield so they can protected against the Na'Vi
I think the sand is covered in thousands of mines
There are no forcefields in the avatar universe, the closest thing to a "shield" there is what the ISV's use as a meteroid shield. But that still is just a bunch of walls not a proper forcefield
No Forcefields in Hard Sci-Fi but they could encase the city in a large dome, not only would that add a bit of extra protection but it would also allow the humans to walk around outside on the streets without Breathing Masks.
@@ugo7395 isnt it a magnetic field?
me when the entire movie: Yeah, humanity colonizers bad but... they got all the cool stuff
Note: its already great cg and vfx when its set during day time
We all Know this place is gonna get Wreck somehow in the Third Movie by the Na'vi, right?
It will be five movies, I don't think the city will fall that fast
@@santiagocamilojimenezjimen1647 they are pouring everything into the success of this soon to be colony