GTX 1080 vs RTX 3050 - Old High-End Vs Modern Entry-Level
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- Have modern "entry-level" graphics cards finally caught up with aging high end ones? Today we're comparing the RTX 3050 and GTX 1080 to find out!
0:00 Intro
1:31 Cyberpunk 2077
2:30 Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
3:16 The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt Next-Gen
4:08 Forza Horizon 5
5:02 Resident Evil 4 Remake
5:58 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered and Final Thoughts
Thanks for watching :) - Наука та технологія
Here we once again see the GTX1080 in its natural habitat, relaxing by the watering hole. However, with the arrival of the younger RTX3050, a stand-off ensues. The younger card thinks it can bully the older card out of the way and claim the gravel patch as its own, but the superior weight and experience of the GTX1080 sees off the young challenger. Licking its wounds, the RTX3050 retreats but this is not the end of the story… the gravel patch by the pond will belong to the RTX 3050 one day!
I read it in Dave Attenborough's voice. Majestic.
@@ZaPirate I do believe this is exactly a scene he narrated , the gpus being an animal of course . :) Brilliant work
I have a 1070 still and my cousin made fun of me but I still love your comment :)
Meanwhile, crouched low in the nearby weeds,... a Radeon RX 6500XT,...
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Oh now that'd be cute!
@@FunBunChuck i love you too even though were not up to date :D
Pascal GPUs aged like fine wine
The last good value gpus….. Then Nvidia bought out useless RT and now they have the market cornered with their proprietary API DLSS . Now you pay 😂
Not really. Newer DX12 games are starting to pull a Kepler moment on Pascal.
@@jamezxh just another thing to push the main developers to make engines that run it and force it in order to make you buy the newer ones to run it "smoothly" so both benefit from money. Win win. look at AMD and their FidelityFx, atleast they were being nice but no Nvidia needs to make every cent out of DLSS. Cheap heads
@@nepnep6894 yoo nepnep from touhou server
Can confirm the 1050 Ti was amazing
I love this older high end vs modern low end comparisons, and it's interesting how close the performance is in most cases.
It’s like that by design. Nvidia plans generations ahead, making small incremental improvements. It’s well calculated. It’s long-term business.
@@Olibelus Nvidia, just like you, attempts to do the minimum work possible to obtain the maximum profit possible.
I want to see the power equivalent cards and see what real performance gains new gen has, because for what I see they are bruteforcing performance, in other words, they have not improved the architecture that much but only use more power to appear as if they are making progress, meanwhile asking for more money while doing the bare minimum. I want to see how an entry level of 75w in current gen would compare to an entry level of 75w of older generations, but that is not possible since they are increasing the power draw, so, current entry level vs whatever old card would match the power draw.
1080 IS OVERCLOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@weizentoastbrot How much?
thank you for your comparison and the work required to due this! i think what we're seeing here is when the gtx 1080 pulls ahead, its due to its increased memory bandwidth (320gb/s) vs the bandwidth of the 3050s (224gb/s.) When the 3050 pulls ahead, i think its due to better driver optimization.
Yeah while nVIDIA Driver updates still include 900/1000 GPUs I don't think there is any relevance to them specifically,
also what I find interesting is that in the 2Gen Jump the similarities between 1080 vs 3050 & 1080Ti vs 3060 12GB, While there are Architecture & MEM BUS changes they have...
Same Cuda & VRAM for 1080 & 3050, same Cuda & 1GB extra VRAM for 3060 over 1080Ti & other than power uasage drop for 3000 they perform very similar.
and it has a f load more texture and render outputs
I also think you're pointing in the right direction. You see at the witcher the memory usage is 2GB more for the 1080gtx so something is going on there.
Especially weird since in all other games the usage is the same for both cards
well under the hood the RTX3050 has better support for Asynchronous shaders, tensor cores to do post processing effects and full 10bit video decoding of every codec except the newest ones like AV1. better yet support for 42GB/s over HDMI vs the GTX1080's 14GB/s luckily both do 32GB/s over displayport 1.4a .
1080 IS OVERCLOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here in the US you can get a 6650 XT for the same price as a 3050. You would have to be crazy to buy a 3050 even if you did want a new card
Yeah 6650xt definitely the better option
3050 has DLSS so that's a win for it in my book.
@@nukeclears DLSS sucks unless you use a resolution higher than 1080p
There's also FSR 2.1
@@nukeclears the 6650xt without dlss performs better than the 3050 with it. Way to eat up the Nvidia marketing though.
@@nukeclears The 3050 w/ DLSS loses to the 6650 XT at native...
The fact is the 3050s a bottom of the basement card and should be £120 - £130, I paid £140 for a GTX 960 msi gaming when it launched, now the 50 series card starts at £263 way way way over inflation, so its priced about £100 to High.
I bought a 1050ti for my mates build in 2018 and it only cost £145 at the time. You can't even buy a 1050ti for that much now 5 years later ffs.
The fact that the 3050 is priced higher than an RX 6600 that completely smashes it is ridiculous.
@@riven4121 completely smashed it? Slightly overstating the difference there.
@@rtmclean484 1050ti costs 70 bucks in (like new condition)
@@rtmclean484 I bought rx580 8GB for that much months ago
A card from 7 years ago still holding what you throw at it from current is extremely impressive. Seems like a used one of those would be the perfect card for those who want max settings in game, for older titles primarily.
Try to play csgo at 1080p high settings and see the fps in GTX 1080. Not the most impressive
@@mindrover777 plenty of us who don't play 99.9% of games from 2010+ decade. *sips Monster*
Plenty more whodo. Good luck sips
@@mindrover777 people won't play max settings in competitive games
@@mindrover777 I play CSGO at max settings with a 1060 and I get my 144fps and 1080p easily.
I’m always glad when your content comes out. You’re very knowledgeable about products that are on the market and you stay on topic as well. Don’t stop doing what you do.
Thanks :)
1080 IS OVERCLOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its always a breeze watching these contents of yours, extremely helpful for us who are not willing to break the bank for some casual 1080p gaming. Thank you!
You'll break the bank paying for your electricity bill within one year - so RTX better overall, just because what you're not paying on the price, you'll be paying in electricity. And if you want to be smart: think that electricity and energies are more expensive by the year. If I were you, I wouldn't invest in anything "cheaper with equal specs except the power usage". In 5 years from now, the difference won't be a few hundred bucks in your bills, but much more. Cheap energy is over.
1080 IS OVERCLOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@nicojar the difference between these cards in the terms of wattage is a whopping 60W that won't break the bank in years mate
*It's...
@@deusvult7344it is if you live in an Asian country with overpriced electricity.
Really appreciate these videos. Great resource for those of us looking to replace old cards on a budget (in my case, my aging HD7970 & R9 290X cards in my LAN PCs, a £10-£20 different makes a lot of difference when duplicated across 8 machines!). Cheers.
Would have thought LAN gaming would be dead in the era of full fibre connectivity, of course there are outliers, Living in the UK and getting a fast and reliable internet connection is a lot easier than living in the middle of nowhere in somewhere like Arizona I suppose but still, mildly surprised.
@@elysian3623 you're absolutely right - they're a relic but there's something about looking people in the face and both laughing after a close race/game that a remote connection just doesn't match up to. I run them a couple of times a year from my house (in Kent) for friends, and it's just a good laugh. Does need a decent internet connection though, as most modern games use that rather than the LAN connection to communicate.
Not managed to get Steve/RGinHD to one yet, maybe one day! :D
1080 IS OVERCLOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@ConfusedStu Passion is passion mate, I grew up in a different ear most likely 95 baby, to be specific, so when lan parties were particularly popular in the late 90's with pc and later adding the xbox to the mix I just wasn't there I suppose, I remember how hard it was back then to get people to do something as mundane as a pokemon battle over the link cable. 😂
I think as the access into gaming as a hobby became easier as hardware got cheaper and more available, the enthusiast community for that kind of thing became more rare than ever, my best mate is 42 and he's only like 15 years older but has a group that he goes to on Sunday to play D&D and it's just wild to me as well because growing up in my era, it wasn't suddenly cool to be a geek yet and finding that initial group to give it a go would be basically impossible unless you got lucky, weird how things work out.
I just replaced my EVGA 1080sc with a 6950xt purely because prices dropped so low. The performance was still there. I could still play most games on ultra with 60+ frames. That card still has so much life in it, though. It was a very sad day to retire it from my build.
I still have my 1080ti to this day. I've had it for years and I've never had a reason to upgrade. 11 gigs of Vram and still being able to run most games at max settings has really made this card still compete with modern gpus. I'm looking into getting an RTX 4080 as an upgrade soon. But I'm in no rush to give up my 1080Ti as it's still more than capable.
Get an ARC A770 16GB variant
@@MitchellTheMitch Yeah no thanks. I want a card that will perform better than an RTX 3060 and won't flop in games not running on DX12. I play a lot of DX11 and Vulkan games. Intels arc gpus haven't shown any impressive results.
Biggest problem with Pascal cards is no support for resizeable BAR
And lack of ability loading textures direct to GPU from HDD.
Games are stuttering on it lot more than on 30 or 40 series cards (trust me ;) ) benchmarks results can be confusig, because some games has better average FPS on 1080, but 1% or 0.1% low, drops are more noticeable.
3050 is terrible card anyway - I cannot recommend ;)
11GB Vram helping, but time to fill up this memory (loading hiquality textures) takes a lot more time than on 30/40 series card
I think best value option is wait a little bit loger when RTX 4070/Ti price drop. 4080 or 4090 are worth to consider depends on budget, but not now for same reason.
@@MitchellTheMitch You can not be serious with that comment, I am an AMD fan and I can say that the ARC A770 is literally 3x weaker than a RTX 4080... Can only be fanboyism.
@@figrider Fanboyism isn't a word. Fine then, LP RTX 4060.
Man I love these videos so helpful for us used market shoppers. Sucks being in Africa shipping costs are astronomical. It'll be interesting to see these card against that 5700 xt
How much is the unity
import custom duty/ tax there ?
And what do you do for a living bro ?
me brokey btw 😅
I would say that 5700 is the same performance tier as the GTX1080 and the RTX2060, and the 5700XT is about the same as a GTX1080Ti, RTX2070 or RX6600XT, in terms of rasterized performance. Buying newer cards mean that you will most likely have driver support and game optimizations for longer, but if you can't get hold of newer cards cheaply, going used often offers superior value. However, taking astronomical shipping costs into account, it's hard to say what is best as it evens out the price difference between new and used.
5700xt would annihilate them.
@@PixelShade 5700xt is firmly in 2070 super territory.
@@jamezxh fax and would make it about as fast as the 3060
Congratulations on 500k by the way, totally deserved!
wow, great vid. crazy how insanely close these two are!
Great tests. I grabbed an ASUS Dual OC 3050 a few months back for a rebuild of Daughter's dying old hand-me-down machine (was a Sandy Bridge i7 with an Nvidia 760 GPU). Paired it with a cheap Ryzen 4600G. She games in 1080p and absolutely loves her new machine!
Congratulations on 500k subs man, You deserve it
Actually LOVED this comparison, is a really usefull and relatable selection of generations... I have a Pascal 1050 mobile, isn't in the same brackets as these cards, but show how well Pascal holds up to modern tasks. I use my laptop to edit audio and video, and is holding really well (also, isn't from 2016 but from 2018... Also, way too close to the popularization of Turing cards as 16series, bad luck hit hehe )
THANK YOU! was just going over cards and specs and trying to guess biggest performance differences. nice to see the 1080 still holds a smoother picture such easily noticed in GTA with the bottom edge of the rear window being extremely obvious the 3050 just lacks the necessary final touches.
Congrats on 500K subs, I love watching your videos, Keep up the great work!
Just looked again at the 3050 prices. No.
A 6600 does cost about the same here in Germany. And that are about the only cards I'd buy new today (as in right now), aside from a potential experiment with a card from Intel, if it'd nag me.
I've set a hard price cap and I don't touch that. If at some point there are no attractive GPU below that price cap anymore, the manufacturers can go pound sand.
5700 XT läuft inzwischen unter 200 Euro gebraucht, nur dass es gesagt wurde.
Based . Same here. My hard cap is 400 euro for a x70 class card .
G'day Wiedapp same for us in Australia, AMD is so much better performance-$$$ than nVIDIA especially new.
3050 $419AUD vs 6600 $399AUD, 6650 $459AUD & 6700 $465AUD where I shop in Sydney.
In Mindfactory de the rx 6600 is around 250 eur, rtx 3050 is over 290 eur (single fan).
Für ca. 300 - 330 € gibt es sogar die 6650 XT neu zu kaufen und wäre definitiv die bessere Wahl zur RTX 3050.
Good video as always, aside from almost similar performance, what I noticed is the higher vram usage for the 3050(except in the witcher), up to 1gb higher than the 1080.
Also, this video goes to show that these 2 gpus may be similar on paper, but architectural differences are very observed.
for some reason the 1080 is using 2GB more Vram than the 3050 in the witcher 3, that is a significant difference as is the framerate
@@JohnDoe-hw8ge more VRAM is required to compensate for the lower bandwidth.
Keep in mind that the VRAM displayed in this video is the allocated VRAM.
So it could be that the 1080 does not actually need more VRAM, but appears to be using more because it's taking more allocated VRAM that it does not actually need to run the game.
Thanks for comparing these two, my old 1080 lives in my wife's rig now but every now and then I wonder if I should upgrade her to something more modern low to mid range but every time in benchmarks I get the reality check that for an old card it still punches above its weight and I can hold off on that upgrade
Interesting comparison. Thanks for posting it my dude.
Couldn't have better timing, I was just looking at either one of these for a friend since I knew they would perform similar but he live streams using nvenc so I believe the RTX card will edge out the 1080 slightly. Good to see the 1080 still kicking ass after all these years.
do yourself a favour and get a 5700 xt
I've just upgraded from an 1080ti to an 7900xtx this year, but must say, the 1080ti was hanging in on 4k for longer than I expected and better than it should
My GTX 1080 still has great 4k chops. Pascal was the last time Nvidia gave out top value for good prices. It's sad. It reminds me of Intel's stagnation from Sandy Bridge to Comet Lake. There is not a consumer GPU on the market that can max today's top consumer chips.
Still running a 1070, wish I could upgrade lmao
@Blink 1070 is still a good card. Will be another couple years.
Fuck 4K
@@ccoonansr Sure it's still decent for 1080p but I'm stuck with a 4k monitor now. Should have went with 2k I guess
Congrats with 500k!!
Congrats on 500k!
Would've been interesting to see Witcher 3 in DX11 mode too, just for the heck of it!
Also, loved your dog at 1:12
lol my thoughts exactly, was looking for someone that said this, cuz i commented the same thing haha
The shocking thing to me is how the 50 series cards have traditionally been 75 watt cards but the 3050 is so close to this 1080 in power consumption in most of these tests.
It is also priced way too high. Should be under 200 USD.
It's actually kinda embarrassing for Nvidia that this is the case
@@SkeleCrafteronYT Embarrrasing or not. They care only about money.
@@SkeleCrafteronYT and when they don't do people complain about even worse price/perfomance.
You can see it with the 4070ti. Much better efficency but it never factored in if people talk about the value of the card.
So i guess it isn't embarrasing for Nvidia, it is what the consumer wants.
The reason is Samsung. The Samsung DIE is very powerhungry.
My 4090 desktop runs between 200W and 340W, depending on the game and with a 120FPS limit and maxed settings in 4k.
Compared to the 3050 in RE4R that is around 16x the performance (4x2x2=16 | ResolutionxFPSxGraphics(RT)) for only 2,5x powerusage with the 4090!!!
Such a great video. Would love to see a 2080 ti vs 4060 video!
Congrats at 500k subs :)
I think the 128 bit bus is what was holding the 3050 back in some games being that they have the same cuda core count. 320GB/s vs 224GB/s memory bandwidth. Not only are Nvidia gimping VRAM now like always on their cards but now they're cutting bus width as well. I think my next upgrade will be a Radeon or Arc card. Nvidia is just charging too much lately for gimped cards.
128 bit on a **50 level card isn't really unusual, it's what they're doing with this generation that is perplexing. I can kind of accept having a narrower memory bus, the larger L2 cache can compensate for that, to an extent. It's the bizarrely low VRAM buffer that is really weird, in part I think they don't want people to run StableDiffusion any more on entry level GPUs like the the RTX 3060 12GB...
Real question here, does bus size really matter? Most narrative say that 3060 with 12GB VRAM will be more future proof than 3060 ti or 3070 with 8GB VRAM, what do you think?
@@dusk4556, I think it's not really a matter of future proofing, right now games like Hogwarts Legacy and RE4 Remake are making 8GB obsolete today.
@@dusk4556 You won't play in 4k with these cards, so 8 GB is enough. If not, just tweak the game settings a bit.
@@dusk4556nly at higher resolutions and with better quality textures. If you’re running a game on low 1080, bus size is almost irrelevant. But watch out for nvidia using ddr instead of gddr. Looking at you 1030 scam.
You can see it in some of the 4070 reviews. At 1080, it’s trading blows with the 3090 Ti. At 4k it’s trailing the 3080 non Ti. That memory bus means that for raw Rasterization in 4k titles, it’s bottlenecked by the memory bus.
I went from a Vega 64 to a 7900 XT and at 3440x1440 it was so worth it. If i was still at 2560x1080 Vega was still fine.
Both great cards :)
@@RandomGaminginHD amazing card. Was on water and ran everything great. Issue i have now, both rdr2 and GTA v maxed out freeze and crash on my 7900 XT lol. I played 30hrs of miles morales, 100% steam achievements and didn't crash once.
@@bluej511 Try limiting your framerate.
@@Hoon_Dogg i do that already lol. Still freezes. I have miles morales capped at 80 that game is solid, but GTA v and rdr2, I'll play once for a couple hrs and it's fine then next launch just freezes. It's all over reddit that rdr2 is broken.
@@bluej511 damn, that sounds like it sucks.
Great comparison. Thanks!
Congrats on 500k bro
With you from 60k subs
This channel is so underrated... I LOVE comparisons like this
So you think 500k subs is not much in tech category, or is it just you who thinks it's underrated?
Do you know that it's basically impossible to garner 500k subs in this overcrowded space? Dedication and hard work has paid off. There's nothing underrated here. Sure, he deserves way more subs, but getting 500k in such a niche is like Brad Pitt becoming Brad Pitt at age 78
It's the Regular Car Reviews of GPUs
I hate the word underrated when it's used the wrong way. Since when is 500k subs "underrated"?
@David Lee
"Used the wrong way"
So you know EXACTLY how I meant it then? Wow, dude, that's crazy that you can read minds 🤣
I meant underrated in the sense that this channel generally isn't mentioned when people talk about tech-tubers. I always hear about linus, Jay, HW unboxed, GN, and UFD tech, but never this channel
Crazy to see how well pascal cards are still doing. The 1080 is in a great position right now for bargain buyers. I’ve snatched 2 up for builds just this week, at $100 and $120. Both asus turbo style blower cards but they’re still very capable. Also grabbed another 5700xt as they continue to drop in price locally. AMDs 6000 series cards have started to fall again too, several 6700xts popping up under the 300$ mark. Keep an eye out for those!
Same here! I've bought like 4 1080ti for like 250 each
i bought a msi 1070ti a few months ago and its honestly pretty great
@@DoxSteele why tho ?
@@nyrz9277 for building more PCs? It's easy to make a business out of this with a little bit of credit
If developers would stop going all into the the notion that everyone has high end current GPUs, and develop based around optimization instead of brute forcing everything, than people sitting on 970s to 1080s will be able to play no issues for years to come. However this is only an issue if you play AAA slop instead of indie games.
congrats on 500K
Asking the real questions! Love this sorta stuff
Great seeing my GTX1080 perform so well. For sure somewhen the driver support will end, but that's ok. We all get old ;-)
Its interesting to see how older games work better on older graphics card and the shift with newer games work better on newer cards never really thought about it before
they were programmed for older cards and never received any updates
@@Gurj101 and if they did update them they might end up breaking them anyway look at witcher 3
Congratulations on 500k subs m8
great vid as always keep it up chap
Thanks for making this video, i was thinking exactly the same the other day when considering updating my personal rig. Looks like the 1080 will be staying for another year
It's crazy how well Pascal has aged, I recently got rid of my 1080 ti, performance was great, but I was just wanting something and more power efficient and cooler for a smaller living room build, so I got a 6600 XT.
So you paid again to have around the same performance?
Granted less power with draw but is it worth the money?
This is a comparison worth checking out!
Edit: re4 has fsr 1 and 2 already, and it does help performance quite a bit. However I've noticed some odd flickering artifacts and general blurryness so I've refrained from using it. Curious if next driver updates will improve optimization as well.
Been playing the new re4 on rx 6600 i5 11400, the game looks great and they're tons of graphics options to tinker with. Been capping frames with rivatuner to 80 with mostly high medium settings just for consistency. I'd very much recommend you to purchase the full game if you enjoyed the original, finally a remake done the proper way🎉
Hey man, i don't usually comment on youtube videos, but I wanted to say that i've been following you since ~2017 and i've watched almost all of your videos and there was not even one that i didn't like. Keep up the good work and i would like to see more pc cleaning/building series( some mini cheap gaming pc's would be awesome)
Thanks :)
1080's and 1080Ti's always were just absolute Units ma dude. Defo were over-built at the time, and are still 1440p capable with a couple of settings tweaks...There so cool!!! 👍👍
CONGRATS ON 500K
I've had my 1080 for 5-6 years now and I think this video demonstrates perfectly why I still can't justify upgrading. I'm a TV gamer so Gsync isn't a thing and i just target 60fps. Settings wise i tend to go for 1440p high at 60fps' with a few tweaks it works pretty consistently at those settings sometimes falling into the mid 50's, which is no big deal imo. Great card, bought my computer hoping it'll last 10 years with upgrades and it looks like the GPU will survive the entire lifespan. it's allowed me to upgrade storage and ram instead which is great.
I've got a 3050, amazing to see this budget card giving a good showing to the former top end card, having said that it seems like the 3050 is priced like a top end card these days.
And the low power draw is excellent. Low running cost and cooler case.
Great video and comparison! I feel that perhaps capping the FPS might help the 1% lows - have you pursued this route?
GG, very enlightening ! Still left me wondering if the comparison would have yielded similar results in 1440p, though ?
You should also test the Vega 56 or 64 vs the 1080. May be a good comparison to see how Vega is holding up.
Hardware Unboxed did something like this last year and found that Vega 64 was overall better than the 1080 for most titles - although some of that is due to poor optimisation for Pascal
@@tourmaline07 Should be like that, but I think the Vega 64 is not as efficient as the GTX 1080.
@@Tri-Technology the Vega got the fine wine technology, so much untapped power only given to those who are willing to risk their house burning down. My 500 watt Vega manages to increase my power bill single handed
ATI/AMD always held up better in the long term compared to nvidia. As far back as the radeon 9xxx days where the unified shaders let them compete all the way up to 8800 days
All new graphics cards are expensive in South Africa I own a gt 640 2gb paired with a i7 4790 used also very expensive or some to far from where I live
Its the same in our country Im just able to build Pentium G4560 and RX560D (that I got for dirt cheap thankfully during last year crypto craze)
Congrats on 500k subs! Have you done any recent comparisons on RX480 / 580s with modern AMD?
I keep being surprised by my old 1070mini. Despite the age, it keeps chugging along in 1080p gaming. While I've upgraded to a 4k TV and PS5, when I toss a modern game like RE4 Remake on the PC, it peforms well. Sure the new fancy big box features like raytracing can't be enabled but lets face it, the performance hit they cause doesn't seem worth it or at least I can keep passing on it for now. Keep it up my old boy, your still rocking.
The 10 series aged really good, I think the 30 series will also.
No it will not due to the low amount of vram
@@dwaynethemineraljohnson412 You don't need ram since they can't run 4k 😂 and those gpus that can (3090) have a lot of Vram
@@dwaynethemineraljohnson412 There is trillion people bitching about low amount of vram in comments on these kinds of videos but always 0 people talking about it affecting their fps in real world.
@@DuBstep115 VRAM not RAM 🤣🤣
@@Sims64340 That's what I said, vram. 😂😂😂 imagine being blind 😂😂😂
A huge difference probably will be that Memory bus The GTX 1080 has a way wider memory bus [even if it uses older GDDR] so in memory bandwidth sensitive games it might inch out a lead.
But yeah, if the memory bandwidth isn't being an issue it seems the 3050 is doing FINE.
On your channel, i feel really up to date with my i7 8700 and RX6600 Rig :')
I own an MSI RTX 3050 and I was curious one day so I checked user benchmark with my card versus the old 10-series cards. Turns out the 3050 is roughly equivalent to a 1080 (and also a standard 1660) in performance.
Seems like this video proved those findings, very cool!
Considering I bought a 1080 in 2017 for $420 brand new, I'd say the newer cards still haven't caught up on value!
Funny number
@@el_dallasyt I bought an iPad on eBay once because the seller accepted my low-ball joke offer of $420.69
@@jasondailey9402 more funny numbers
a rx 6800 can be found for around 440-500
I'd get a used 1080Ti instead of either, pulls ahead of either of these but is still cheaper than the 3050, and the added VRAM helps it for 1440p gaming, which is quickly becoming a standard. I will say, though, that both the 1080 and 1080Ti are still very relevant and I agree that driver support for newer titles are going to be their eventual downfall.
Great video, as always!
I personally don't see the value in 4k, it just makes your pc make more noise and makes games perform worse. If we look at the actual visual benefits, I'd prefer a smaller QD-OLED any day for visual quality. Then again, I only have a 27" 1440p monitor and I am not planning on getting a physically larger one as this is the perfect size and resolution for me.
If anything, I only ever see myself getting a good 1440p OLED of the same dimensions when reasonably priced ones actually start hitting the market, either that or the price gap closes for 4k monitors of similar size and better visual quality that I might as well (I don't see this happening).
Why not get a RTX 20 series card? Usually top tier cards dies early due to more power consumption. While mid end cards usually can last much longer due to less power, less component to die. My GTX1080 is still OK, but my friends GTX1080TI which was bought around the same time when I bought my 1080, was died 3 years ago.
Used 1080Ti is just asking for trouble. Most likely it was mined to near death. And 1080ti in particular is not the most reliable and cold model from the lineup. Might as well buy a used 3060ti under warranty, assuming you can get it below 300$.
@@fhs7838 My 1080ti still runs just fine, and it's the FE version that doesn't even cool very well. Sitting at 84-87c since release. The FE's are actually better than most though, because they use the actual reference design and not third party components that might cause issues, and even though you get higher core temps, the overall temperature of the entire card is more normalized, resulting in less temperature differences between components. And like with the 4070 right now, some of their heatsinks don't even cover crucial power components of the GPU, just leaving them open to air, even though they can get over 100c if left uncooled. Every card I've ever had fail, used a third party heatsink and non reference components.
5:15 i can tell you like it so much i see it in so many videos! i remember when you first got that card and i was jealous because all i could
get was a $200 1050 ti! i like that cooler design it’s very compact
When you caught yourself with the personal PC thing, that earned you my subscription. That kind of stuff annoys me to no end, so thanks for not falling into that trap. Mean while, over at PUBG:Battlegrounds..
i use an rtx 4070ti but i love watching videos comparing or testing older cards because of you. You make it entertaining and i actually want to watch your content. keep up the great work
I use a 1080 and have for awhile. Can still play almost everything on ultra. Idk what card I'll upgrade to or when. I honestly feel like I got incredibly lucky and bought one of the best cards they've made.
Yup, my water-cooled GTX1080 still runs everything I want to play at the moment quite fine. I don't see the need to replace it anytime soon, unless it somehow decides to die on me.
I would say you don’t need to upgrade till the bext 50 series cards come out. Save your money and get a 50 series. Or maybe the next AmD cards when they release. The 1080 is still so capable.
@@VoodooMcVee I'm still rocking a water-cooled 1080ti and mostly happy. Right now a used 3080 or 3090 looks to be a reasonable upgrade for the price. Then sell this one for $200-300.
same. i think the newer cards like the 30 and 40 series are just overkill. im still happy with the 1080
Thanks for the video!
Ive been using a GTX980ti Hybrid cooled card since just before the release of the 10 series. For 1080p gaming its perfect and it will easily upscale to 4K for movies. I'd be interested to see a comparison of one of those to your 3050 as at the time the 980ti was getting favorable results against the 1070/80.
Did you noticed that, in The Witcher 3, the 1080 was using much more VRAM than the 3050, even if both were running at the same settings?
architectural differences I guess
slower memory
New texture compression on the rtx 3050.
Means it can fit more compres data in the memory.
And that have the old gtx not so it need more memory for the same data .
@@dyslectische Maybe it is true, but damn, 20 fps less after 6 years?
Commented about this earlier but in case you don't come across it... The next gen version of the Witcher 3 has been a mess since launch. Especially the DX12 version. It seems to be the newer your card is, the more issues that may compound. A better comparison would be running the test again with the DX11 version of the game. Since then you wouldnt be trying to run what reminds me of cyberpunk at launch (haha okay its not THAT bad anymore, but i still wouldn't trust all issues have been fixed.)
Overall,
DX12 Witcher 3 is janky af... especially the newer the card,
DX11 Witcher 3 Is *mostly* normal.
I'm not sure how much different VRAM usage will be, but i'm almost certain the frame rate difference will disappear.
Buena comparación! Gracias por tus videos!!
And in English? Great comparison thank for you videos I assume? Have the decency and respect to speak to one another in their own language.
I suppose if I ever come to Spain or Columbia I'll just shout in English.
"OI! A pint of Modela please mate!"l
I helped my brother build his PC and put a 1080 in it. This was shortly after the 30 series released, when it was almost impossible to get one. I'm glad to see my concerns about not putting a newer GPU in it are mostly settled.
Congratulations on hitting 500k subs🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
fingers crossed you can try out a rx 5600 xt. they are flooding the market and seem to be the best replacements for the rx 480 and 470s for superb value (picked mine up from china for like 73 pounds)
Did it come in a plain box along with an old driver cd, looks funky and questionable stickers on the fans.. :D
@@DJLKM1 lol nah, im 95% certain it was an ex mining card. came bubble wrapped in an brown box. no dodgy stickers or anything like that. it is the Asus Dual Evo model.
@@fenrir_szn6978 Was just jesting, you got a bargain :) I would rather buy ex mining than ex gaming, ex gaming you know has been oc'd and lived the worst.
@@DJLKM1 ah sorry I guess I read the message as curiosity rather than a joke and proceeded to explain.
I didn't expect the 3050 to be toe-to-toe with the 1080. I knew the 3060ti was overall better than the 1080ti but I wasn't sure where the 3050 stood.
The 3050 is a paper weight and it still costs a fortune.
em....... the 3060ti is on/almost pair with the 2080ti.......... then the 6700xt is ON pair or slightly better than the 2080ti
Think 3050 drivers have improved. It seems closer to 1080 now. used to be closer to 1070
@@jamiehav0k62 it will get better after a while considering nvidia dosen't screw the drivers to make the 40 series looks better
the 3050 is so damn weak... 3060 makes sense and 3060ti sux that it has only 8 gb vram so on high-res it limits you...
What program do you use to have your temps on the left like that
I've been watching you since the 2006 PC video and now you have half a million subs 😱
I thought the power difference would be more problematic but it's negligable in the long run. It would take about 3 years of gaming every day for 6 hours on a 1080 until it costs the same as a 3050. The 3050 would have to be half the price to be worth looking at compared to getting a second hand 1080 it seems. New graphics card prices are still nonsense.
I'm not sure how to say it, and maybe I'm wrong - but how is the 3050 entry level? I get that it's nVidia's lowest point currently, but there are still lower spec cards that serve as an entry point. If nVidia had an RX 6400 competitor i'd want to see that vs the 1080. But with the 3050 having 6gb of ram and costing over $200 just cant consider it entry level
it has 8gb of vram and it's an entry level gpu
Anything below that is not really meant for gaming anymore, that's why it's entry level
it's crap because it's crappy high price and consumes too damn much for meh performance, entry level is a polite way of saying it I guess...
"Entry-Level" is a marketing term meaning the lowest level in their retail line that it is currently still manufactured and sold as new.
(They stopped producing 16 series cards and 20 series cards earlier this year im sure, but that doesnt mean some store like Amazon doesn't have a few in stock on their shelves..)
So the 3050 is the cheapest offering from NVIDIA's current product line right now.
A better example would be to think of Cell Phones.. There are Entry-level devices, mid-level, Flagship, Enthusiast, etc.
Entry level does not necessarily mean affordable though. I'm sure an entry level space shuttle is nowhere near my realm of affordable lol
Very good idea for a video. You could do more of these
This was a great comparison video.
1080 really was just one of the best cards of a generation
nah, it's the 1080 Ti
I think the 3050 has the advantage due to DLSS plus warranty. Great video!
RX6600/XT has the advantage of faster + cheaper.
You should include in such tests (new vs old) also Performance/Watt.
This was a good comparison and I was actually suprised by the result. I didn't think the 3050 would be so close to a 1080.
Interesting results there, not surprising but interesting nonetheless. I would personally go for the 1080 because it is cheaper than the 3050.
cheaper to buy, not cheaper to run
@@zulfika_ Even if you live in a place like the UK where electricity is very expensive the difference is measured in the cents
I swapped my 1080 for a 3070, but the 1080 is still a monster up to this day. 7 years of service already.
7? Not 4?
@@utkarshrajpurohit1554 unless it's a 4090, all the other 4x cards are a scam
gtx 1080 was peak nvidia lol
@@gamblerfls 4090 is a scam too tho LMAO I mean a 1600€ card is basically the definition of scam, it's more that the others are so crappy that they make the 4090 look good by comparison.
@lolseagull Pound is the UK's currency,not the EU.
I have the MSI Gaming X 3050 in my pc, (first build/ pc) and gotta say I love it, it runs nearly everything at ultra really well!
You should have done a comparison where you used DLSS on the 3050 to make things more fair. Most 3050 users will probably use DLSS to get better framerates.
I'm considering a 3050-adjacent build in the future with a similar approach.
@@greatwavefan397 make sure to get an i5 and not an i3
Still running i7 3770 and 1070 😂
I used to run 2600k@5ghz with 1070 and then 3070 but switched to ryzen 5600x cuz it was to much bottleneck xd happy now i guess
Still a nice combo. Those 3000 core i7 chips are legendary
great combo
congrats on your well earned 500k subs brother :D
Thanks!
I'm still using my 1070 from back in the day. And find it perfectly adequate these days.
I'll probably upgrade in the next year or two but it does the job. Dropping a few settings generally gets me my preferred 1440p gaming experience
just upgraded from 1080 to 2060
You mean downgraded lmao
xD
Side grade??
What? Hope thats some kind of a joke lol.
I did something similar GTX 1080 to RX 5600 XT. Not an upgrade, but card is smaller, more modern architecture and better Linux support which was the main reason I got it.
The 30 series and 40 series are a joke IMO
The last good value ( sort of ) Nvidia card was the 2070 super.
40 series. 30 series was amazing at launch but didn't deliver until 2 years later. 40 series does give everyone more reasons to go AMD tho
@@rolo4733 Nvidia in a nutshell is just taking advantage in terms of price and should be tamed by intel (which will take a while)
They really are no joke, but the prices are.
true, but when I got my 4k screen my 1070 said fook that sheet im out so had to buy 3070 xD
Nice to see confirmed that my 1080 is still safe for the foreseeable future. For my use it has never given me issues and I hope to keep it as much as possible... Maybe changing it for a 10800 when it will come out
awesome cool video. sooo useful for me since I have a 1080 still in my travel pc :)
The Gtx 1080 is a legend. The rtx 3050 straight up sucks
cry more
yes, it does suck, but it doesnt when you buy it for 220 Canadian dollarinos
@@mikeymaiku agreed
I love this channel from the bottom of my heart. I've been here from before GTX 1080's launch. I came here for the first time to learn about the GTX 750 ti. Then I had to facepalm hard because I didn't know that the GTX 1050 was launching in just a month. Then you uploaded a video comparing 750 to 1050 and I was disappointed that I research enough as the 1050 was better in every way and costed nearly the same where I'm from