So Sadhguru and Steven Pinker had a conversation...
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That guy can't live one day without uttering the word Dimension.
😂 and he has extra senses inbuild to feel extra dimensions 😂
Dimension Dimension Dimension 💃 🕺
@@darkplace2260 String theory in physics postulates there are many higher dimensions and may be other intelligence and/or consciousness all around us.simply in different dimensions. I am not a fan of Sadhguru, however having had personal experience there are things happening in this world that science cannot currently explain.
Jaggi when 'debating' college students: "You know nothing of this culture!"
Jaggi when having a conversation with a rational adult: "Okay, lets not talk about proving or disproving it..."
😂
There's no connection between both those statements
@@ofAwxensame with sadguru
@@ofAwxen It's an illustration of arrogance when you have more clout over your interlocutors vs. humility and deflection when you know you cannot defend your BS beliefs. It's an illustration of dealing verbal damage to someone who is perceived as less credible than you vs. damage control when your irrational beliefs are dismantled by someone with real credibility.
@@metalman4393 I've heard him make both those statements, but in entirely different contexts.
Statement #1: he usually makes this statement as colleges, when he does say it, he says it in dismay that our people aren't fully educated about our own philosophies, not to assert himself as an authority.
The thing about "let's not prove or disprove it", he's made such statements at colleges in our own country, so it's not like he's selective about it.
...yet, Sadhguru followers have a false perception of winning a debate with those irrational arguments of his.
Yeah
What it means to be rational for you
@@dte.introvert9311Not being a supporter of badguru
Young chickens nowadays feel very proud in winning argument. Their definition of winning an argument is "how much can you humiliate your opponent by any means - rational or irrational."
@@Leonardo-lb6rsYoung chickens get humiliated with straight up facts, even without having to criticise their character. Irrationality and fallacies have no place in a civil debate. Of course, irrational people will obviously get humiliated by rationality.
You cannot make sense of Sadguru with your five senses😂
thats why i grew my 7th sense😂😂😂
😅😂😂😂😂 sadhguru is scum,!!!!
What is it? @@thecommonman
@@ashwinraj2334 non sense😂😂😂😂
@@thecommonman 😅😆
Never doubt the mystic who believes in water memory 🙏😂
The Harvard scientists have built "Sadhguru center for concious planet". Yet some UA-cam scientists are so blind to even listen to his words.
Science also believe,
@@adhyatm-swayamkior9139 😂 my muscle also 😂 have memory😂
I just love it when someone kicks sadgurus ego by proving him wrong 🤣🤣🤣
😂 Awesome man. You've such a great taste of love. 😂
Science is profound and matured to say "I don't know", while Sad_goo_ru and team gets offended for not knowing something, soo much so that that they end up making up stuff!
"If science cant learn what it is, then tell me how you learned what it is"- Gem of a statement Pranav! Loved this
Because sanatan, vedas and spirituality knows more than science.
And Science is just the small disclosed part of these.
And mark my word ,the day science climb at the peak it will find spirituality is sitting there since long.
Basis of your argument? Just 'trust me bro?"
@@shivangitripathi20 Oh yes! Vedas knows everything that is possible in science, they just keep it hidden until someone actually finds something to say that we knew this already.😂😂
@@shivangitripathi20😂😂😂😂😂 okay honey stop crying
@@shivangitripathi20bro you people are distroying Hinduism, isted of telling the actual scientists or mathematians your calling vedas science, and all, why you want to mix those just understand there are people like sa**guru who took advantage of this and make money that's it, why can't it just accept that, its nothing to do with science, we belive something that's ours, there is no rule in science which tells that's itself is finale, even athisium doesn't claim there is no God, or any godly figure, just states we are not able to give evidance on this,it just that not everything should be scientific, it's just different from science, validation from science is bad combination for religion, if we truely follow our religion, these fake g**urs will leave their jobs
If "Either convince them or confuse them" have a form then it is Jaggi
This is the problem when u give credibility to a person with non-scientific temperament. You go to such platforms and make fun of our country.
He ain't representing our country. Anyone who forms their perception of India from sadhguru is already fooling himself or herself.
Not to mention most people against sadhguru are also Indians.
You see the People of Bharat not standing with sadhguru right in this comment section.
Its is not productive to feel bad or good based on how some other Indian conducted himself/herself outside the country. You are not their parents.
@@khanshiranyor3974 I think on pranav's main channel about dimensions, pranav briefed of an Indian physician who false equivalenced dimensions with something and he was called out for that from the delegates and he was not able to explain it later on. What does it say?
When u r on a platform where thousands of people are watching and listening, he or she is representing our country.
It is Bcz sadguru was given such credibility in our country, he is sharing stage all around the world
The Harvard scientists have built "Sadhguru center for concious planet". Yet some UA-cam scientists are so blind to even listen to his words.
@@khanshiranyor3974very few arent standing most of bhakts are going crazyy seeing their sadguru is talking with a western(who stole our tanatan dharm knowledge) scientist and defeating him.
"Anyone who forms their perception of India from sadhguru is already fooling himself or herself." They arent fooling themseves they are doing what a common human will do
I thought Sadhguru centre for conscious planet is at Harvard medical school.
He is actually running a school at Harvard medical school
8:55 instant kill😂
real
indeed
No, that's just a typical response. All scriptures, yogis are talking about the same thing, it takes a lot of sadhana to experience it on a profound level. Unfortunately people think they can know everything just with their intellect process.
3:00 the way you are laughing to prove someone wrong shows you are more interested in boosting your ego rather than knowing truth
ad hominem
And what is the
'truth' ?
@@matrixsmarther2325 No defination justifies it. It can be experienced tho.
The word "Dimension" has a special place in the minds of the spiritual leaders 😂
Bongloli alert 😂😂😂😂 pathetic you guys should do march with ur favourite leader momuta 😂😂😂😂
@@shubhchakrabartylmao ur talking about ur self bangali
He uses other words as well. But you think he is talking about something different.
Seems to me that many of Fraud Guru's commentators are bots... They just praise him without any reference to his video
Some valid points from Sadguru:
1. We cannot define the nature of reality with what we perceive through 5 senses, because sense perception is different for different beings(so how do you know reality is ACTUALLY what you are experiencing through 5 senses? meaning saying its physical,solid etc).
2. If Brain Activity is to be taken as evidence for conscious experience, then why are there some many cases where there is minimum brain activity but people report extraordinary experiences?(the Black swan logic should be applied here meaning even if one swan is black you cannot conclude all swans are white)
3. This is not from Sadguru but from others: Correlation does not imply causation. Just because we are able to correlate conscious experiences to brain activity that does not mean brain causes consciousness.
4. Steven Spinker just brushes of the Hard Problem of consciousness (by saying is not that hard) as if he has an answer for that. If he really did then there would not be so much debate in scientific circles. He just says we will find it in future(very convenient)
5. He Wongly claims and says AI was made conscious and later convenienlty says well they had a different meaning for sentience.
6. There have been many debates on this subject and many well known scientists like donald hoffmann, bernardo kastrup and Federico fogine(inventor of microprocessor) provided great defence to the points raised by Steven Spinker. So its good to know both sides
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Why do you think minimal brain activity cannot be associated with 'extraordinary' experiences ? After all, there is a gap between the neuronal processes and qualia or concisous experience and you are right in pointing out that we do not have a definitive causation model. If one doesnt know causatory mechanism but empirically if low brain activity correlates with intense/extraordinary conciousness experience, why it is problematic?
For me, conciousness is a property that arises out of the interaction between the entities of a system,say brain. It cannot be reduced to the entities themselves.
The concept of wetness and water in cloths is a analogy. Water molecules are trapped in the fabric which gives it a overall sense of wetness.
It doesn't even make any sense to call as some sort of causation which we use in natural sciences. What do you think?
A new born baby has the max no of neurons, but fewer synaptic connections than an adult. As baby grows, he develops consciousness and self awareness.
Conscious activity arises in the brain.
@@mithunbalaji8199 I dont see as a problem. But Steven seems to cite this relation as a proof to say consciousness is an epiphenomenon.
Consciousness is that which provides any experience. Experience = consciousness + object. Consciousness is the ground of all experience. There is nothing beyond consciousness because whatever you know, you know because of consciousness. So yes in this sense, consciousness is a miracle in a sense that it does not have any cause that produces it.
bro you should also start going to conferences and places man..!!❤ you can easily do a seminar on all about logical fallacy for engineering and mba students, non of these are covered in any syllabus!!
"Science should not conclude on what we do not know".
Yes Sadhguru, i guess we better leave that to cons parading as spiritual gurus.
Fraudguru*
(I mean this is literally the fraud, who pretended that his rudraksha rotated on its own when he suspended it over food, when it was actually him slowly rotating it with his fingers. And of course he sells that stuff in his merch)
@@vishwakumar2864 You can experiment with it for yourself. It does work. Clockwise on +ve prana, vice-versa & like a pendulum when neutral (over things like potato).
Things & places with +ve prana or over Sadhguru's pic, it always rotates clockwise. I tried it over my body, it rotates according to my energies & emotions.
They give consecrated rudraksha for free during Mahashivratri.
"close your eyes and do japa tapa dharana dhyana
samadi soonya samyama well these are all distinct
states which are thought and transmitted
in a systematic way not just some uh you
know some mumo jumbo way"
This has to be the best word salad that I have seen. "Transmitted in a systematic way" Gosh!
Legend says that the audience is still trying to make sense of what he said there.
00:30 savage😂😂😂
Miracle, magic, wondrous, awe-inspiring, are all words to describe the state, a mental space in which we get interested enough , involved enough and devoted enough to invest ourselves in a particular process. See a kindergarten kid planting a sprout seed and making a plant grow in 8 days....it feels wondrous to them, then they are willling enough to invest themselves in gardening, to learn the process of gardening. So the whole point is the willingness to create the mental space to follow the steps that lead to the experience of consciousness. Now Sadguru says yoga has the steps that lead to consciousness, many people follow it and get a taste of it, and so-called scientific people are unwilling to keep their mind aside and follow the yogic steps, but also wanting to create their own steps or replicate the yogic steps in their own way.
Sadhguru has literally said it himself that he tried his best to not be educated!! That tells us everything about how much he understands science. Schooling myself made me go through the process of rational thinking and forced a scientific perspective on me even if ignorance was easy and I'm so glad it did. Sadhguru believes he's right cause his ignorance was never refuted during childhood. Which is where all his confidence comes from. Learning science humbles a person. It shows you how insignificant you can be amidst the world and be amazed by how things came to be as we see it now. When you get this formal education, you acquire the tools to observe life as it is and not let your personal biases hinder the facts. So I'm not really surprised that Sadhguru believes in what he does. I used to be annoyed by his flawed thinking, but now I don't even consider his opinions.
I'm not saying he's stupid though. He's an extremely smart businessman and manipulator and I admire his confidence. But ultimately, he's just spreading nonsense with an appeal to ignorance.
The Harvard scientists have built "Sadhguru center for concious planet". Yet some UA-cam scientists are so blind to even listen to his words.
Yes and he earns a living by doing that and this is all because of his image... and he would do anything to protect it....
No need to make assumptions & conclusions when you guys don't know anything about Sadhguru's life.
Are you a Sadhguru obsessed guy? 😅 If he doesn't make sense then leave him or debate him personally. It would be intresting !
lol jaggu's lindu fan might kill him for defeating him
@YourParas Half-Brain Conclusion ! There are no fans of him . There are people who follow his meditation techniques because it's working for them. 2 I never saw him defending his ideas or opinions, he just say what he sees , so there can be no win or defeat. It will be a great exploration when he will debate . Why fear before it ? 😅
@@asalifeknowit lol jaggu's fan are definately ultra dimensionally quantamically cosmically stupid.
I don't know why but I don't understand what jaggi wants to say. It is just as if he is saying some random bunch of
words that make no sense to me.
8:06 Pranav you asked here so i will genuinely explain to you so please you also be open and genuine. The main thing that is being said is that consciousness, the fact that youre experiencing everything, is not from the brain. How? Because the sense of experiencing everything, the consciousness, is same in everyone, even animals, but the brains are different. For you, sight means light but for an owl, sight means darkness. So the brain and senses of an owl are completely different from those of a human being but with both of them, one thing is common and also unchanging with time, that is their sense of self, the fact of them experiencing everything, the consciousness. The system of the owl is limiting its consciousness to only that much of expression, otherwise if the same consciousness was in a human system, it would be a full-fledged human consciousness. Do reply if you read
His lines can be countered point by point by using the mere definitions of the words he is throwing around.. 1. Dharana means focusing on a particular region of the body such as forehead, navel etc. 2. Dhyana is when dharana is practiced for a reasonable amount of time, the practitioner is said to be in dhyana. Both mean only meditation according to Patanjali. Seems that Sadhguru has attached many things to it and distorted the actual meaning of those words😮
thank you for the explanation
11:40 Sadhguru is basically asking scientists to join him in hallucinating.
So you are saying that you are a fool 😂😂😂 who believes in Science which knows nothing how universe works 😂😂😂
Let me explain some basic logic to my friend @@shubhchakrabarty who threw an ad hominem. Saying science knows nothing how universe works is wrong. Science is ever evolving. We didn't know about atomic models a few centuries ago, today we do. We didn't know about the expansion of universe a while ago, today we do. Science explains when it knows, and until it learns, it will say 'we don't know about that yet'. And we are sure that this Sadhguru doesn't even know the basics, which is why it is intellectual dishonesty to not admit what he doesn't know.
@@SriHarshaChilakapati lol looser talk to urslef 😜😜😜😜kid dont teach me Quantum Physics
@@SriHarshaChilakapati im no supporter of sadguru fool neither im a follower fool blinds like you who only get to know stuff from internet or school books
Universe is locally not even real ... Everything is wave in nature even the quarks behave differently under quantum realm not abiding the laws of nature same goes for Youngs Double Slit experiment.... Science can never find the truth coz when you observe the reality changes ... ( Youngs Double Slit experiment) ... So conclusion is not science its accepting that we dont know nothing that is science
Finding a person who could say I don't know rather than saying it's a miracle is in itself such a rare phenomenon that if we could find such a person it's a miracle. But I must say Sadhguru is the number 1 - the type number 1 error.
so first i search definition of miracle on internet and then when i came back to the video jaggi says flower is a miracle, birth is a miracle.
here is completely misrepresenting the word miracle
he is playing the subjective definition game
If you perceive reality in a profound way, then everything feels like miracle.
😍😌
Japa, tapa, dharana, dhyana, samadhi all these are the ways prescribed by Patanjali in yogasutra for humans to live a normal life.. Mr. Sadhguru is throwing around those words to make his speech colorful,nothing more than that. So what Sadhguru is doing here is basically mumbo jumbo😂
just to live a normal life ?? brother kindly stfu if you don’ know what all those word really means
Yes and meditation is good but this guru so called fake guru is trying to earn money by fooling people
I hope you live a normal life like Adiyogi, Krishna, Buddha.
If I am to give Sadhguru any form of levity and take his word for it, (which I don't) I think he is defining miracle as, "Anything that showcases appreciation, beauty and knowledge that science is unable to grasp". Which is a ridiculous definition but this is wha time think he's defining miracle as
Sadhguru, I think, tries to denote the concept 'sacred experience' as a subjective experience of 'wonder and awe towards things'.
However, one can explain such an experience without religion or mysticism. This experience stems from an openness towards the world resulting from the acknowledgement that we have a lot to acquire and learn from each experience. Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein were driven by their curiosity and passion. No need to postulate extra entities in order to talk about intimate personal experiences of gratitude.
In religion, such types of experiences have been interpreted as indicated, due to this openness towards the world, that such an opens indicates that there must exist a higher power as the source of this bigger thing than us which woes us in such experiences. What woes as in such experience is our own emotions stemming from the receptivity and awareness that indeed, the world is much more complex than us.
This explains the context, in my view, of Sadhguru's claims. Well, his claims are based on loose usage of language and have no epistemic, artistic, or philosophical value. He can make, occasionally, claim with some psychological value like 'be chill and relax' or equivalents, but this is not a valuable contribution to any debate.
@@mayushitutturu1455 truest comment here
There is a fundamental flaw in understanding what consciousness is. It is that which gives the first-person experience. Of course, scientists can observe and explain brain activity and neurons but not consciousness because it is that which illumines every observation and explanation. For example, I am contemplating consciousness, it is the very consciousness that knows that I am contemplating. Then, how can you contemplate that? Consciousness is that which knows that I see objects. Then how can you see consciousness? Same with taste, touch, and other forms of perception. This is exactly what the Kenopanishad says.
Just taking a small part of the whole conversation and manipulating it in your own ways for your ego satisfaction and making fun of it is not at all good and acceptable.
Actually the main thing here is that , in the original video I can show you more than 10 time where Steven is not getting the exact point about what Sadguru is addressing instead of sticking to his own perception.
It doesn’t mean that you are not biased from your own thoughts and perception just because a scientist suffix is added after your name for your research and all.
I think people need to focus on “What can I get from a conversation versus let me judge the conversation “. Focus on growing by gathering good from all sources rather than wasting time criticizing things/ people that ‘we’ don’t like.🙏
PRANAV, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT YOUR MAC ON DND WHEN YOU RECORD. THE NOTIFICATION SOUND GETS ME EVERYTIME.
Always a pleasure to see a fellow "Only Desi" Fan!!
I have nothing against you, and nothing for Sadhguru. This conversation was rather confusing since both of them were not trying to understand each other, and it's okay.
Just one thing that I'd like to point out, you said "What's the proof of different states of being", well there has been plenty of proof. You should that research before saying that there's no proof.
However, even when you find the external proof, particularly in the form of explanations and second hand experience, you shouldn't believe it, because that's not the way to know about those states. You must experience it yourself through the meditation of your choice and suitability from Yoga and Vedanta.
And you can also go to those states without reading any of those books or following a method, but that's a very tricky path, you must be super alert, curious and open to it, and that's not an easy thing.
Things shouldn't be perceived with biases, or we'll always be misunderstanding it for something which it is not, which will result in losing a considerable amount of knowledge and time.
Both the modern scientists and sages throughout history have worked really hard to gather immensely useful knowledge for us, we should focus on harnessing that, rather than wrestle to prove which is superior, that's a human stupidity.
Exactly
9:00 that is the best retort thrown at that "cannot conclude" argument
2:57 bro said “oh my god” while being an atheist
Lmao
Jaggi is like the Anu Malik of music. One copied and repurposed foreign tunes, the other copied and repurposed foreign words like dimensions, energy, consciousness, existence.
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And also adding common words like isn't it...hello...
There are surely hindi words for these terms but he use English because he's followed by people from different cultures and ethnicity
Its still a huge downgrade from Shiva-Shakti.
So consciousness is just physics and chemistry but yet we can’t measure it . If everything is material then how does all these materials and forces make a rational sense ?
They say consciousness is physical yet they cant show how to measure it. Excellent point!
i just watched the whole 2 hrs...here is what i felt "any person with a rational mind can never understand the babble this guru says.....he is literally using word salad which doesnt make any sense....he literally is redefining words which causes even more confusion....what a fool!! at 1:08:10 of the original video he says he thinks there is something more profound than physiological and pyschological drama...he says he is 100% sure...then how did he come to the conclusion? i dont know....what evidence can he provide for that??? why the hell should we take his work for it? there are people who has experiences about alien abductions and really think there is something out of this world...does that make it true?? subjective experiences no matter how genuine they think they are..means nothing unless it can be individually verified using a scientific process....i can show 100 peoeple who belive in nonsense just like this sadhguru "...i really wish steven would have called his nonsense directly...i am guessing it the format of the discussion....a guy like matt dillahunty/sam harris would have chewed this fool and callout his BS.
Your logic is totally flawed. You're literally saying a cryogenic engine "means nothing unless it can be verified (explained) using a diesel engine". It's just plain stupid and childish to even have a thinking pattern like this. The current scientific methods are merely on the scape of physicality and there's not scientific (as per the present definitions) way to explain things of the non-physical realm. It's like saying one should use a knife to stitch - just ridiculous.
@punkaj what the hell r u saying? Cryogenic engine!! Diesel engine???? If u r saying my logic is flawed ...atleast explain that using good examples...engines ..seriosuly?? 🤣 and u r saying current scientifc methods r not scientific...what is ur understanding on the scientific method?? Do u have a method?? Expalin...u r saying non- physical realms...how do u even know they exist? Provide evidence instead of talking crap and using stupid analogies like engines 🤣
@5:12- Hey Sadhguru, I got bread in my pocket. That's a miracle of magical experience. 😅
I m no sadguru fan, but you seem like a despo dude overreacting to get a high from it ..
Not everything that scientist calls out sadguru is worth sense , sadguru does make sense in counter
Likewise, sadguru many a times exaggerates his own subjective as objective, which may or may not be what he s talking
Though he doesn't talk nonsense in this video
I am an atheist myself but I tend to believe that there is something more than just the 'machine like' part of humans not saying that there is some divine being or 'energy' 😂but something can change inside like a change of heart like king Ashoka who realised that war is futille. I 'want' to believe that love and hate are more than just some chemicals firing.
Now this is a great reply towards all people and i also have some keen sense of that thing inside us , but still i don't wanna tell people cause they say if its there why don't you prove it . anyways the only people we can help is ourselfes
why do you want to "believe"??
Believe being the key word
It is supreme energy but has no intent, so can't be figured out by intellectual process.
I have seen many people, they used to say that the senses are not reliable and they usually argue around threshold value, yeah threshold is something that's subjective it may differ from individual to individual but there is a point where you start perceiving through your senses, we all do. So, it's very weak argument I would say, teacher like Vikas sir too often used to say this but he state this in philosophical context not in the realm of science.
I can see brain derived hyperactivity of puny human called Pranav
i see a tanatani and jaggu fan
Don’t take any of his public talks as representing the man. He has to advertise himself so that people take up the spiritual practices that he teaches. (Sadhana’s)Most people have started the practices after learning about him through the work and the drives that he’s taken up.
It’s impossible for anyone to constantly be in the public domain and not draw criticism for his answers.
Also, why don’t you all criticise the mullahs and the pastors who suffer from the worst kind of hypocrisy. Oh, I forgot, they’re a hard target. Your barbs will ricochet on you.
Instead of revelling in criticism of him, follow the Sadhana for some time that he teaches. After that , you will see how silly it is to indulge in criticism.
Brother you must conduct an online interaction with Mr.Steven Pinker and be there with some nice eye-opening questions which will promote rational thinking and will to enquire before believing..... please this would be a huge moment....and if you,Vimoh and Arpit togather will be there then it would be great...❤
Sadguru got owned😀
In a debate he organized himself.
@@Leonardo-lb6rs true. Sadguru big L
How? Maybe you have not seen the full conversation?
Psychiatrist listening to his patient vs psychiatrist debating a delusional patient.
The only way i can imagine magic (i am not saying magic exists) is that there is a type of energy that exists and some people can channel it into different forms like making fire out of nothing etc:-
that energy comes from the time-travelling waves emitted by the phone to the microwave
Except it doesn't exists
So it's meaningless to define it
Energy is an abstract concept...
Dhruv rathee in his latest video called himself hindu atheist.... thoughts????
hes scared of all those lindus sending him death messages
He probably meant an atheist who grew up in a Hindu household and still follows traditions associated with Hindu culture
Maybe he took Mark Twain's advice : "When foolishness is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be smart."
He means he's an atheist that likes hindu culture I think. Otherwise Hindu atheist is an oxymoron
@@YourParas ok chuslim
Brother one podcast with Mr.Pinker....please..❤
Hey Pranav! Is there a link to the original 2hr video?
Sadhguru vs Javed Akhtar debate is a fun one to react to
Actually both are comedians, I've seen that video
Loved that one❤
@@rahulsiddharth2609 nope... Javed had valid points...
@@i2keepitrealInreseach That "there is nothing else but the brain"? This is your perception of reality?
@@rvind000 why do you think so? No way my comment reflected I accept solipsism.
It still remains an unanswered question.
If you stop barking all the time between their conversation so we will have our own insight 🤷♂️
If you're so desperate to watch, go and watch the whole video on Sadguru's channel
Will you make video on Osho ? 😊
Its called gas lightning
My brother is spending lakhs of rupees on NLP classes.Can you do a video on how it is a scam and unscientific
Natural language processing?
Hey Pranav I would love if you watch videos on spirituality by Jiddu Krishnamurthy and tell your opinion on those videos.
Another video suggestion is video of Swami Sarvapriyananda's lecture given in NIMHANS Bangalore.
Those are my favourite videos tbh
PLEASE DO A PODCAST WITH mr.pinker.....please try ❤
May what it be, you will agree with me pranav, that Jaggi did something which his predecessors or contemporaries, like Bageshwar or Zakir naik don't even imagine to do, debate with pros!!!! Be it debate With Javed akhtar or Steven pinker, including posting the video on his official channel!! These debates are not matters of success or failure to Jaggi, it's courage he wants to display to his followers by lock horns with pros......This is something to underline....
It's called marketing... It's to capture minds like you...
Lol another delulu mind
My question to you: How do you know that your senses give you accurate depiction of reality around you??
Was hoping to find some good intellectual discussion in his reaction...but this guys initial fan moment in the starting of the vedio proved his judgment comes from confirmation bias just as Sadhguru's followers reaction are. No difference(Just notice how this guy's bodily gestures changes with the each speaker😂😂😂). What a waste of time.
After watching the full video of their conversation, if you don't understand the basic difference in the definition of consciousness of Steven & Sadguru, then I doubt, you have good logical reasoning skills!
The difference is that Sadhguru talks from a subjective perspective and you talk from an objective perspective.
The Anchor has come with some preconceived notions…He doesn’t seem to have understood things in the right perspective and his way of presenting looks totally irrational and unrealistic, He is stupidly excited &!ignorant …such a shame 😮
Ye these guys have their minds made up, theyre not open-minded. If Steven Pinker says something normal, theyll act like it was out of this world, Sadhguru will keep using logic but they will just ignore it
sadhguru be like Jhut bolo baar baar jhut bolo till it beomes truth. beause belive it or not Siene is omplex and not many people are not willing to invest their time on it.
2:50 uff the excitement
Two guys discussing “consciousness” and third guy making fun of one 😅
Oh yes , Sadhguru cannot define “miracle” ( and also consciousness ) ……boss , but do contain your “excitement” …..😂…even pinker cannot define consciousness !!
I am big fan of pinker . And have read textbooks of neurology. Nobody still knows what consciousness is
And by the way , if two guys debate some thing and one disagrees with another , how in the world is that a “slap on face “ ??
I didn’t see the video , but Pinker is more likely to win this debate , as his logical and scientific statements will resonate more with this world
I have failed meditation several times 😂, but never in medical school
Thugs like jaggi sitting even in debates like this ,, is a win for him and his followers,, i guess
some of the things i disagreee with sadhguru like ha rages when somone asked about eliphent territory and stuff , and claims to file 100 of cases against the student , i mean to go into someones college and then tell to file cases against them that sounds arrogant to me, he can show them facts and clear their minds
sometimes he feels like he is the knowledgebale one by not commenting on geeta , i would like him to make books on shiva sutras or patanjali sutras
he talks about mental health but as soon as someone asks him in the IIT that he is suffering from something he retreats saying how can someone be depressed this that
i hear lots of inner engineering but if everything is divine that what to engineer onto ? i like his karma philosophy thoooo
Spot the BS Bingo is coool!
I fkin hate the clappers!!!!🤬
Just shitting on two incredible peoples minds
Bro make a video on the
Discussion between Swami Sarvapriyananda and Donald Hoffman
Also, a talk between
Swami Sarvapriyananda and Sam Harris
Certain dimensions will get shattered and this will be a canon moment for Steven pknker
5:08 Pranav looks so done with him...😂
Steven Pinker looks like saner Jordan Peterson
Sadhguru: We do not everything, hence we make up stuff!
The miracle is wtf steevy doing with the dimensionguru
It's a magical that 1 proton can change elements
Thanks for your efforts, Pranav! The likes of Satguru has mass following because most of what he says are from ancient texts which were the truth at that time. These hypothesis where created by the best minds of those days who didn't have the technology or prior knowledge to build on. These hypothesis were the result of questioning - which is the basis of science. Just like how scientists from hypothesis about dark energy, those days they formed hypothesis about working of the mind. It's very very hard to beat spirituality with science also because some of the 'spiritual' experience are real. For example, today, science knows what happens in the brain when we meditate. When people find benefit in it, they also believe the pseudo science that comes with it. Therefore, instead of considering them as anti-science, we must embrace them as certain stage in our knowledge path which was important at one point and educate people about how we have moved forward with modern science.
Sadhguru is a genius at what he does. How can you even begin to counter his argument if you don't even understand what he's trying to say? He purposefully uses vague language that any listener must actively try to decipher. If you are able to understand what he's saying and try to counter it, he hides behind the vagueness by making you look like a moron for misinterpreting his vague statements or makes even more vague statements that create more confusion for you. This is why I find him very annoying to listen to. His followers though, they aren't trying to actively make sense of what he's saying. Unlike us who are trying to do so because we want to analyze what he's saying critically, they simply fill in the details with their own ideas and beliefs, and end up in a constant state of confirmation bias, making them feel like what was said was profound by the end. To them everything he said made sense because they had already decided that it will, and so it didn't truly matter what he said so long as he hit the correct keywords to make them fill in the details that they believe in/want to hear/already believe. It's a nightmare to deal with this man.
Existential reality can never be limited to words or intellectual process. If you have been with him totally even for a moment, this will be your last lifetime. Enlightenment will happen just before leaving unless you are doing sadhana now.
@@rvind000 Look. You can say whatever you like, but if you want to even begin convincing critical thinkers, you'll have to start speaking in coherent and precise sentences first.
"Word salad " is a good word
Most of these so called gurus are "word salad " because most of them don't know what they are speaking but just some english words...
There is one way of fooling the people and changing the the meaning of something from what it actually means and giving it your own meaning and definition.....is another way of fooling.......😂
Don't understand why People feel proud of they are fooled by Jaggi.....😂.. and give him the opportunity to be superior then them...
10:02 miracle is in a religious context. And magic in itself is a miracle. Lol. If you think Sleight of Hand is mahic, and therefore equated with what miracles are, even humans are gods in thta very context
5:38 miracle miracle, seems like Sadhguru was using pathos
Sadhguru even made an awful person like Pinker look good in comparison. Unbelievable.
8:17 he literally disagreed with sll the claims he has made in the past.
This shameless sadguru should have never appeared on public platform after getting a suitable thrashing from Javed Akhtar in 2013 in a debate but a shameless person always gets away with its previous defeat
The Guru of Dimension 😂😂😂😂
Please do a video on amurata..
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You have to be honest and acknowledge that Sadhguru only said that it’s not very scientific to assume that if something cannot be currently proven within established standards and forms, then it does not exist or cannot be scientifically validated in the future. Regardless of you position, I think this holds up pretty well.
Anything else strikes me as extremely biased and medieval, after all we once thought that the Sun revolves around the earth only to be greatly humbled.
Keep pursuing Science honestly!
I wish we could have such rational scientist in our country, instead of having just scientists. I am never going to listen this Sadhguru's video, complete wastage of time. Perhaps only skill is his fluency during speaking in english like most of smart youtubers who promote 'sanaatan dhram'. Wondering how even he came in such position where thousands of people listen to him? Clearly, I am worried more for his followers not for him, who are those people? Magical, miracle, fantastic...what was all these? So many conflicts, contradicts- just bunch of words without meaning anything.
My father died in 1992 when I was 9 years old, if he appears in front of me today, I will call it miracle.
Watch rationalism and spirituality fan bois go head-to-head in the comments. 3, 2, 1...
Pranav please ask your parents to give you more brain cells. That would be a real miracle! 🙏🏼
Never thought i would see you fanboying it looked cute. 😂😂😂
~tuttturu, indeed it is cute to see him appweshiating Steven Pinker . By the way, go back to the lab and drink your Dr.Pepper, Now!