Carpro V Gyeon V Griots V Bilt Hamber V Infinity Wax : Battle of the Quick Detailers
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2019
- In this video we put 5 highly rated detail products through their paces.
Infinity Wax Rapid Detailer
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Bilt Hamber QD
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Gyeon Quick Detailer
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Griots Best of Show Detailer
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Carpro Elixir
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Note: Price comparisons were done by calculating cost per litre of minimum retail size offerings.
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For a quick detailer, gloss is the most important. Gyeon is the winner to me!
thanks Jon, looking forward to testing CarPro Elixir, and just bought the new Gyeon QD, which was impressive on first use.
Nice one Jon; looks like I’ll have to try my Infinity Wax RD and Bilt Hamber again and give them another go...
Really liked the format of this video.
Another great video Jon, well done. Funny and informative. I wish some other channels would take onboard how important that is. The "snowfoam bottle" flashback clip was epic :D
Great informative video as always. I'm surprised you didn't mention the cleaning ability of these QD's for light dust and fingerprints etc. In my option most QD's do an satisfactory job at cleaning but I'd be curious if one stood out.
Very smart! Once again, another great video. That's next week's shopping list complete for me.
you make such good videos, i think you are the best for product reviews. keep up the good work
Loved the Microfiber Applicator Run slickness test :)
Great video,nice to see the comparisons with these speed detailers,never used these but its a good review.
Thank you very much for an amazing video 🙏🏼! I was looking for days almost for weeks for a QD, actually for two of them. One as a synthetic QD and another on Carnauba base! And after your video I know now what I will buy.. so during the winter when I just use a wet coat, I will use the Infinity Wax Rapid and in the summer, when I use Carnauba as a main base, I will use the Gyeon QD which is on Carnauba base.. as for both QD a glossy and shiny finish is important for me as I’m driving a uni means non-metallic black car 😉. So once again, thanks for a great detailed video.. you have my respect 👍🏼😉
Another great video! I don’t understand why you don’t have more subs.
Great comparison Jon , really informative and interesting. It just goes to show , the big names aren't always the best 😉👍
The only one I have used is the Griot’s and it is very good. But the one I prefer over ceramic coatings is a homemade cocktail. I take 20 oz of Distilled water + 1 oz of Wolfgang Uber + 2 oz of Gyeon Cure. I apply this formula with a Solo pump sprayer as a drying aid after blowing off 90% of the water. My cocktail provides incredible slickness and gloss, and I apply it after every maintenance wash. On my non-coated vehicles, Bead Maker has basically replaced detail sprays used in my drying process.
Excellent quality video, as always. A comparison video you don’t have yet I think would be nice would be a best interior detailer video!
Agree; but I think that list would be even bigger. So many finishes to consider and they all act differently on different plastics (BMW, Audi, Mini, VW all use different plastic)
Can’t beat a FDC comparison video! Not surprised Rapid Detailer did well. It’s always been a good performer and it’s been n my arsenal for a few years now. Those Bilt Hamber brushed metal bottles have plus and minus points but can’t deny how a few of them in a row look great on a shelf all lined up👍
Great test. I am about to buy some Sonus Carnauba Spritz as it makes sense to me to use a QD that contains the same LSP that's already on the car (wax). I hope it means my next layer of wax will bond well. On a general note, please keep running this channel the way you do at the moment ... keeping it real ...
I'd actually class Elixier as a sealant much like BSD. It literally sheets for weeks and weeks. Works amazing on wheels.
Got my thumbs up for the “Forensics detailing broom!”
I wanted to order Infinity Wax but 500ml was around 15€ and Gyeon 1000ml 17€ …for a QD the gloss is the most important for me and after it dries on the surface it is like a mirror…really easy aplication with minimum resistance…great product…next time I try the IW :) thanks sir you are the best keep up the good work!
I have been using Carpro elixir on my black BMW as my drying aid. It’s amazing absolutely to me the best topper after I wash to use it actually darkens to paint.
Loving the channel John. Quick question. Have you tried mixing Detail sprays ? i.e 50% Sonax BSD and 50% Bead Maker to get the hydrophobicity of the Sonax to combine with the gloss of the Bead Maker ? Cheers
Great video Jon, excellent to see Rapid Detailer appreciated for the well balanced product it is
Rapid detailer is my personal fave, best QD product I’ve ever used!
Infinity Wax no one can deny the RDS Mr C. Ross M
@@rhyslister2754 Thank you!
100 % all round favourite
Excellent, thorough content, thank you.
You do make the best reviews with CCAD on YT.
even tho you don't appreciate my humour 🤪😂
anyway I use Perfecta as a Quick detailer
Thx John ....great review ❤️
I've been using a lot of the Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer. Leaves a lot of gloss and slickness.
I also prefer Carpro Ech2o at a qd dilution because Elixir can be really difficult to wipe away. But the benefit of Elixir the strength of the protective elements.
Great video Jon. You should try out Herrenfahrt Ultra Gloss Detailer and compare how it works on paint with and without ceramic coating or wax :)
🏎 Broom broom broom! There’s always more room for more detailer spray ha ha.
Another great review video, especially the test of the Gyeon detailer (big fan of Gyeon since I started using they products about 5 years ago).
So overall how would your rate these detailer against your top favourite detailer spray?
Good idea on the each of the different criteria’s & the tigger/bottles bonus! Gyeon should get 1/2 point for the bottle
design !?
Noooo the nightmare with the foam cannon clip (14.22) 😢
I'm still working through my bottle of Bouncers Done & Dusted! But this'll help me with my next pick! Surprised AngelWax didn't come into the mix though.
Hi,I’ve been watching your videos for ages now and just wondered if you had any plans to try any zymol products?keep up the good work.
I just used Infinity Rapid Detailer over the weekend and have to say it’s now one of my favorites. My previous top 2 favorites for quick touch ups are: BLACKFIRE Instant Detailer and Wolfgang SiO2 Waterless Wash. I get Infinity products through a US distributor. Thank you for the GREAT comparison!
it does everything well JT. How much does RDS cost out there by the way please?
@@ForensicDetailing Yes, it does everything really well. Plus it can be applied to everything including glass without streaking. The price from the US distributor was $13.99 plus shipping. Even with shipping it's not bad. As cheap or cheaper than my prior 2 favorites Blackfire & Wolfgang.
I picked up Sonax BSD For around £ 8 ... be interested to see how it compares to these .. probably would last longer and bead more ?
Good vid John I still use Megs synthetic x wax as my detailer and have done for about 2 years now it's quite durable aswell
will try and get that in the next one.
Was gloss measured the same in your other video with the sealants? I was trying to figure that out... Bead Maker came in at 84.1 where as here something like EliXir is 87.11. Curious
EXCELLENT test, Jon!!!!!!
Love the channel. Look forward to your new releases
Hi Jon, in a reply to another post you said that you might do a couple more like this. If you do would you mind adding a combo like BH/BSD 50/50 as I’d be interested to see this get the Forensic treatment. Thanks
great product review video again jon...
Angelwax QED is what I use, as recommended on this channel. Good all-rounder, good shine, leaves decent protection behind for a quick detailer & it's half the price of some of these, usually £10 delivered.
I use it after every wash to give my LSP a little boost.
yer its nice not used it for like over a year or so, so its becoming a blur in my memory. but I think it came second in my original detail spray video. Was a bit like the RDS good alrounder very strong price tag.
Great vid Jon!! 👍 Cheers from Brazil 🇧🇷
Hola!
If you have a coated car, when would one choose Elixir over Ech20 at the proper QD dilution?
nice video have you ever done a video on how to get over spray of door trimor door rubbers or know of anything that will remove it new to your chanel
Great vid. you and Pan really give us all the data to decide a product. Plus another bloke here in Australia too.
Would have liked to have seen Bouncers Done & Dusted QD included in this test as i have heard good things about it. Great video John as always very informative 👌
me 2, will do these every now and again as they are not too intensive to shoot and dont tie up the test panels for too long. so DandD will be in the next one. I think I have a couple of others I want in there and then will perhaps get a couple of new ones. try and slot some new brands in as well that peeps ask about.
I've been using D&D, great gloss if a little sticky.
@@gordon238 I've never found it sticky although Jon mentioned before that they might of changed the formula recently. You might also be using too much of it. A little goes a long way.
Forensic Detailing Channel Can you include Autobrite Direct’s Project 64? The slickness of it is absolutely insane!
I have the infinity wax rapid detailer got it in a Mystery box from Imran not used it yet though but will do now mate, still a Done and Dusted guy, surprised that the Gyeon QD didn't do well good comparison vid Jon
it did very well James. Remember BH QD was the one I recomended from over 75 products previously. It scooped up more points than BH and was the highest gloss reader in the test. Its also slick and smooth.. only 2 reasons not to use it as far as I can see, isnt cheap, and is not that hydrophobic though compared to RDS and Elixir. So it depends what your after really.
Points make prizes! There is quite simply no other detailing channel quite like this one You should have your own bloody TV show Jon, I'd watch every flipping night mate! 👍👍😂😂
too many like it if you ask me. But that is only because lots have now copied how john tests products.
Great video! Man I love Elixir! so much better than mixing the echo2 and reload!
Why's that?
This was a great test!
These products are definately aimed at the entry level enthusiast but us seasoned guys know that you make your own QD out of your favorite RW because most of them have some type of protection and/gloss enhancer in them, just sayin'.
That said, Griot's Garage Best of Show is my favorite here. I've been using their products since 2005 and have been very happy with their performance but more importantly their customer service, its second to none! I'd like to invite you John to try their brand new Brillant Shine rinseless wash. This product does one thing...CLEANS, no protection and for those with a coated car it's very important what you use to wash with. The only other product I've used that is a pure cleaner is McKee's N914, an outstanding product as well. Griot's Garage doesn't rush a product out to join the herd but it does make it to market rest assured it's the best (IMO).
Keep up the great vids John, your one of our favorites across the pond🇺🇸
I would say these products are aim at pro or enthusiast. you will see a lot of pro's packing gyeon and carpro because they have strong reputations for products, very good accredited reputations, respected in the pro scene, yes not cheap though some guys want cheaper chems that what these brands offer. You will find a lot of pros will like BH because you can mix up probably 4-5 litres from this bottle and it will work great. griots I think in the UK without the gallon offering perhaps gonna be more for guys at home. infinity wax I think sell a lot of their product to the trade because their trade discount is large and they do free delivery, their trade prices are very strong.
@@ForensicDetailing I misspoke here when I said entry level. Pre-made products are ready to use but once you know how to make stuff you'll never buy that stuff again. Example being CarPro Ech2o, what CAN'T it do!
I agree with you John about the gallon sizes for sure.
yer I think like if you look at value and you take something like Ech2o that sort of product makes sense financially doesnt it. because you take the product and you mix it down like 20 times and make a massive amount of product. If I was in the trade then you really would go for something like that. Its always the way though klasse. its like the same with APC and cleaner concentrates etc.. generally trade you go for higher concentration products. retail goes more like ready to use. I understand what you mean now yer its a fair point.
Great video! I buy Best of Show by the gallon. Glad you have started trying Griot’s Garage products. Just to let you know Best of Show Detailer fragrance is Mike and Ike’s Candy.
its really good. the only problem is we cant get gallons of it in the UK, its not big over here yet. But from what Ive seen FAB the formulations seem really good quality and the bottles are triggers are great. it seems like a strong brand generally.
Forensic Detailing Channel It’s a very strong brand here in the U.S.. The bottles and triggers are really good. It’s funny how the bottles and sprayers are just a big to us as the liquid that’s in them.
Good vlog Jon, need to review some others though. Personally I use Meguiars qd, I have also found it to be the best clay lube as well, I have tried other clay lubes (zymol and autofinesse) but Megs I find better to work with - slightly off topic I know - sorry.
no its good adam thats what I ask people to tell me its the most usefull feedback mate. when you say megs QD, do you mean the Megs one in the red bottle, or like the ultimate one or the megs express spray wax.
@@ForensicDetailing Cheers for your reply, yes, I meant Megs red trigger bottle 👍
Thank you!! So I have a new highlander what wax should I buy to apply? Then the best quick detail one for nice gloss with water protection? Thank you !!
Yo roger it really depends on budget or what your looking for. stay tuned for some more wax comparisons soon. But like if you want a wax thats cheap, pretty durable, hydrophobic, nuba based try bilt hamber double speed. 14.99 Its a bit sticky to remove but like just put on thin, sticky isnt really the right word, but its just not like light to buff if you know what I mean.
if its so weak with hydrophobic can you use gyeon on a ceramic coating ? I used gyeon wet coat to top my coating and am still having second thoughts about it after coating being 9 months old now. was thinking of toping with tac moonlight but it just does not have the self cleaning and crazy repellency of gtechnik original coating. i hate this about coatings
You can yes.
Great video 👍🏻, best qd from what I ever used was clearkote quickshine , but I don’t think you can buy it anymore. Another one which I really like especially as a drying qd is Serious Performance Ultra Gloss Show Detailer V3. There are so many qds on the market , and I used a lot in many years, another one which is worth mentioning (actually I just remembered it) is Artdeshine NGPS , more times you apply it, better it looks.
You know what's funny, I still have around a quarter of a gallon of ClearKote Quickshine from app. 7 year ago
Derrick Long Its a great qd, especially on a single stage paint, old school qd, very easy to use
Recently tried the IW RSD jon and came to the same conclusion as you. All round good QD.
You should try Tac Systems Shinee Wax, think you would enjoy the gloss from it. I'd suggest trying the Wowo's QD as well, one of my own personal faves.
Cheers brian, gonna sort of do further rounds of this sort of video and a different set of products in next time and keep collecting up the data now as well for the products.
Kudos for the Hey Dude shoes - most comfortable shoes I've ever worn 😊
Was gunna ask about them! They look sooooo comfy I have got to get some!
Great video. Very informative
I always go over my car with carpro reload every week after a wash , I just love the stuff, not a QD as such, but it adds a rich darkness to my interlagos blue paint, wicked beading and has very light wash marring filling ability too.
I can understand that. simple going over the car with reload make it look good and the repellency is really impressive on application. I think though its got decent durability and Im just not sure you need to be laying down that sort of thing in every wash.. put it this way. I would try elixir because it will give you the same hit. Just wish the price point of elixir was a bit lower, its knocking on the door of reload price tag and you can knock reload down a bit I guess. dunno. if its working for you keep doing it just thinking out loud.
@@ForensicDetailing yes I agree every week is a bit OTT , I started using gyeon essence shampoo a few weeks ago and I noticed when it was dryed off, the swirls and marring would be magnified on the very slick finish, to the point I was getting annoyed with it, but a quick wipe over with reload actually made a noticeable difference hiding the faint marring element, the bigger cob webbing and swirls were still present as you would expect and the gloss spectacular in the bright sunshine , the durability is academic to me as I do it every week any way. I'm in the process of splashing out on the 3 sizes of rupes long throw polishers ( bit late to the party i know ! ) for my 51st birthday to sort it out, had my old school makita and porter cable 7424 over 12 years from the detailing world early days.
Don't use every week! You are wasting the product. One application to a dry vehicle should last 3 months (coated car) or wt least 6-8 weeks on a non coated but protected car.
Like your videos and big thanks from kuwait.
Difficult to measure, but my primary use for detail sprays is as a drying aid. Are there one of those tested you would or wouldn't use, or do you have a favorite for that usage? I usually use Optimum detailer. Further, in that usage, would a detailer that is very slick affect the coat of wax that would follow for good application?
Ive used them all that way. Id say with BH you want to knock it right down like 10:1 t use that way but its the most cost effective to use like that. but it will thin down the water, make drying the panel easier etc.. some guys wont like having to pack different concentrations though but not a major problem. can mix some down 1:2- 1:3 say for detail spray. And mix down 1:10 in another bottle for drying aid or clay lub etc..
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks!
Forensic Detailing Channel Works very well as a drying aid.
I've gone right off Sonax BSD. It doesnt leave a nice slippery finish and I found it allowed dirt to accumulate on the paint more quickly.
Ive observed exactly the same thing Mark. have a watch of the video I did on Griots best of show detailer plus mould in my seats (recent video) I talk about bsd and dirt build up. Its one reason I favour wet coat over all these products, I can actually observe the panel not getting clogged as much.
@@ForensicDetailing I'll check it out. Thanks.
Cheers for taking the time to reply also. Love the vids.👍
Infinity detailer is best use on wet car, remove all water spots and you will dry your car much easier
he to everyone out there. I would like to ask one thing...should I use this in place of the body polishe creams? thanks in advance....
You can depends on how many times you wash your car. You'll probably be better with a paste wax then normal washing and this sort of product to top up
Great testing and review John.....question.....why do people actually want a QD? Considering there are spray sealants that are applied identically i just dont see the point. The may have a little more gloss but probably not anymore shine and poor protection. Unless the car sits in a garage and is a rarely driven i just think their not required. Am i missing something?
It provides a way to easily and safely remove light contamination (fingerprints, dust, pollen, and if you are careful, bird poo - let it soak before gently whiping off) without having to do a full wash/clean/wax. You also use them to "top up" the full wax coat you put on, after a wash. Whatever you want to remove, you want something that provides lubrication and will not dull or remove your wax/sealant, and that's where a QD comes in for me. Finally it can also be helpful after a wash to do a final drying inspection.
So mate :) one of these or Bead maker, or done n dusted? I actually use QD as part of the protection so admire if t can stay a month. I have soft99 fukupika & some bsd still left. I would buy another one or two so - one for summer and for the looks + probably one for winter actions/longevity = moolnlight?
best advice. none. Use up fukupika and BSD first. you wont beat BSD for protection, or lets say water behviour and durability of that. nothing will beat it if thats what your after. but if you want to try something different, based one what you said about protection the best fit would be elixir. moonlight is a different kettle of fish. thats like a proper durable baseline lightweight type ceramic that you would do full prep for (or top up another existing ceramic with potentially)
Awww snap a shootout! Its been too long!
Hey Jon, have you ever compared Griots "Speed Shine" for its use as an in between washing of vehicles?
Ive not todd sorry just too many products from one guy to cover.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for your time and effort ! I have a bottle of it for near 1 year and I haven't even tried yet, because I have to much stuff!!!
What is the best way to wipe of dust of a showcar?
Whats the best quickdetailer and the best microfiber towel for the purpose?
I am talking about a black BMW e21.. It is painted in the darkest black you can get and it probably the worst color your can have for scratches.
best way would be to prewash and wash it :) but like you cant yer. your talking like dry wash scenario for an event. truth is Im not really the best person to answer that. I would say I trust ONR to clean down panels pretty safe as long as you are mindfull of pressure. so perhaps a nice soft korean open pile cloth. bucket of ONR with the korean yellows in2detailing cloths soaked in it. and some dry ones to dry out the panel after. that would work.
@@ForensicDetailing Where can I buy these towels?? Which brand / type is the best you think? The summer is about to begin and I need to get equipment soon.. Yes I am talking about dry washing at events.. I know a decent amount about detailing, washing and polishing but quick detailing and dust I dont know so much about.
@@MultiTerpen check out my review of the in2detailing microfiber range on the channel I talk about them in there the yellow 350's, and on the top 10 detailing bargain video. they are top draw towels for very little money. In fact they are massivly underpriced. they will be great for waterless wash but I use them for polish removal really.
Jon have you ever used wolfgang uber rinseless wash.it can be used for different applications in different ratios.
Ive not used Kev sorry, the wolfgang stuff just isnt sort of talked about much in the UK. it sounds like an ONR type thing.
Hi bud! I tried what you said but its the washing machines fault!! When I put it on 'spin' it does it slowly etc. but when I put dry things in it speeds up to 1200 RPM! No idea why this is but anyways.. I left it out to dry overnight, tried the spin in the morning and after 4 minutes or so it finally sped up! left it out for a few hours, tumble dried it for 10 minutes and its now fluffy! :D :D thanks for the tips. No idea why it doesn't spin when wet tho?
not sure sorry mate. its important to spin the water out, normally the full wash program takes care of this. after a good spin most towels sort of just feel damp rather than wet and then thats the perfect time for the tumble dry part to kick in.
Forensic Detailing Channel no problem, thanks for taking some time out of your day to help! Much appreciated 😊
Is this an updated video on the best QD products you reviewed 3 years ago. How does the done and dusted compare to these
not really update just treat it as a standalone QD shootout. I have another one coming soon with DD and DDSI and new products should be cool.
What I would like to know which one will you use after the test?not used any of the products on test I have used the angelwax and poorboys
I use BH qd at 9 to 1. Gyeon as well
For me I havent found anything yet that beats Done and Dusted. It is expensive compared to some but I just cant find anything bad about it. In my opinion it beats BSD on nearly all fronts and it lasts.
I’ve found it’s quite ‘waxy’ so definitely needs more of a buff and can streak if your towel loads up with product. Nice product though.
I recognise that broom, it’s Triggers!
20 years I had this broom, only replaced the handle 5 times and the brush head 4 times :)
Did you ever talk about silicones in detailers? I'm curious what's your take on this because some of the best detailers still have silicone in them. I remember battling with a ceramic coating last year which just didn't stick to some parts of the car and I never found out why this was the case. I highly suspect silicone to play a role in this.
You obviously didn’t wipe the car down properly, you wouldn’t apply a ceramic coating to anything other than bare clearcoat
i have fusso coat on my car , can I / should I use a quick detailer. still no Bilt Hamber over here in the US
I used ech2o(1:20) on my fusso after every wash no problems so far
could proly use any QD with it. have a look at soft99 luxoury gloss as a QD thing. If you want to top up fusso or a water based spray on thing that gives very good repellency check out soft 99 speed and barrier. ill get speed and barrier into a shoot thing soon. its PTFE based like fusso
Does gyeon QD stick to a ceramic coating? Looking for more shine after wash🤔
yes for sure. its very glossy, awesome to work with.. It doesnt bead much though.
@@ForensicDetailing you ever tried Koch Chemie Allround quick shine?
Value is one of those things thats in the eye of the beholder.
Some folks dont care about cost too much because they’re a weekend detailer, whereas the everyday detailer will care more about cost oer ounce. And Elixer can provide great value if you’re topping a ceramic coating.
I think the value throws the final results off a bit cause its so subjective. For me, I dont really care about cost if it works great.
I think value though nick is the least subjective thing I can measure. say you were with me while we are doing this test. me and you would like debait things like ease of use, slickess etc.. we would be trying to work out certain performance things and it could be so subjective we could disagree. but when you start talking about hard figures of price, I think its less subjective. The price is like the price, there it is. How important that price is to people is perhaps subjective I understand what you mean mate, good feedback as always.
Forensic Detailing Channel thanks for the reply Jon. Here’s my logic behind that:
Slickness can be felt by anyone.
Gloss can be measured with gloss meter.
Hydrophobics can be visually seen.
Longevity can be monitored and tracked.
Value is completely different to each individual.
Love your channel mate!
relative value yes its subject isnt it basically to how much money you have, the difference in cost is quite irrelevant to lots of peeps, but ultimately the price is the price. I think you have to like compare price and peeps can see that info and decide if its relevent. A bit like all the criteria really. the biggest problem is the hydrophobicity arguement. will talk about this in another video soon. It is hard to like compare these products properly the more I do it the more I realise theres no right or wrong just a whole load of different personal requirements for each viewer.
Could you do one where you compare a qd to the cg afterwash or a product like that? Would be interesting see the difference between saving time and a proper qd application.
what CG product specifically makke.
@@ForensicDetailing www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/chemical-guys-after-wash
Is Sonax BSD also a quick detailer? If so, how would that compare as Ive heard its the king of beading and also not that expensive
its described as a quick detailer, but I tend to think of it more like a spray sealant
It is actually a spray sealant, there is a german channel where a doctor from sonax has been interviewed. He confirmed that it is more a spray sealant than a Detailer. Bet the product name was given before the product was developed ;)
Ok, thanks both.
John is auto qd as glossy as done and dusted si.Thanks love going through your old videos
not sure Ive not compared on similiar test panels...
can you link to the brush handle :-P
Interesting video but why would you want to use any of these in lieu of Beadmaker?
beadmaker is laying down a material over the surface which then goes onto harden over the course of say 4-8 hours or however long. Its not really a detail spray. I wouldnt spray beadmaker onto wet panels because Im wasting product, I wouldnt grab beadmaker if I had a smudge on the panel to tidy up. etc.. BM is more a topper, spray sealant they you can use in a similiar way to a QD I guess. but BM is not a QD, as such. I know lots treat it that way though.
Dear sir maybe you have any gloss readings from sonax BSD? Because in my country most of those products are not availiable
It’s in this video: m.ua-cam.com/video/RIzydaCsCXE/v-deo.html at 14.16 👍
yer not from the rhopoint IQ though.. but BSD had good gloss on application with the old 60 deg meter. you cant compare that reading though with the data in this test. different test panel base gloss. also the values I gave here were the average for 20 deg and 60 deg readings taken from 2 different panels. and the 20 and 60 deg readings scale differently.. so like gyeon got like 91 GU average in this test. The BSD had a 82 gu gloss reading from 1 panel on a 60 deg reading only.
the rhopoint though is a different animal to the old chinese one. I witness 4 GU varience on the old chinese ones in between calibrations, so I could never compare data from different calibration sets with the chinese one. also the chinese one forces calibration on startup, and shutdowns after 60 seconds if you dont use it. this caused me an absolute nightmare doing the tests. the calibration "plate" on the chinese one is a bit of black plastic. the tile on the rhopoint is like glass stone thing with a certificate signed independently to prove calibration plate has been measures properly.
all the data I now collect with the rhopoint I am storing up to build a database of product performance going forward. This will allow me to compare products more accurately and provide better reviews. the analytics on the rhopoint also me to compare the data so much easier. I was writing them down as a backup in this test just in case something went wrong with the export I didnt want to loose the data. but I dont need to do that really now I know it works. I can export and analyze it on the laptop and compare average data very rapidly.
@@ForensicDetailing my dear sir , many congratulation for this fantastik work witch you sharing with
Us. I love your chanell hard work.and the sence.if humor. Thanks for helping us on many ways
@Nathan Surname problem is you cant compare the data outside of each test.
Gloss is relative to the base gloss of the panel which is never consistent over different tests. but you can get some usefull info perhaps
Hmmm... are you based outside the U.S.? A quick search does not appear to show the infinity wax product to be readily available here
yer all UK mate sorry.. I think infinity might eventually get over to the states
@@forensicunplugged4295 I was kinda surprised that it was not more readily available online
Call me crazy but i still use Zaino Z8. The gloss is insane.
Great product, but is more of a spray sealant (and 25 quid a bottle). Z6 is a great quick Detailer
The griot’s gloss level reading is higher than bead maker??😐
Did you change the panel?
I dont know I cant compare readings from previous tests. different base panel and different meter. Ill try and get some data on BM.
Forensic Detailing Channel , I appreciate it.
Thanks alot man. You are the best..
Ever tried Britemax Spray n Shine? Really rate it
awesome video , thanx
A bit of a strange test to me. Is A quick detailer's whole point not to just remove light dust or finger prints? I wouldn't expect a QD to impart any wax or shine, and if it does is it not then a Spray Wax? And if thats the case i'll stick to AG Aqua Wax as great multi-function product for this.
Dash Cam Das as far as I know, i could be wrong, but in my eyes they're used for water spots & dust & fingerprints etc. but many QDs also work as a layer of shine/protection.
so a QD's whole point is to remove light dust and finger prints? and no other functions?
this is a subject matter we have covered on the channel guys. I could write a long reply but the answer is buried away in the videos. short answer is just no, those are 2 functions of QD (2 from a big long list of possible functions). The brands will have a vision for what their detail sprays are for, each customer will have a vision of what they want a detail spray to do. Theres no official detailing defintion guidebook. If a QD adds gloss then its a spray wax? no again thats a definition I dont recognise. For me a spray wax is a water or solvent based liquid emulsion thats backboned with a wax. Industry calls lots of products polish or wax that dont align with how I define products though.
@@ForensicDetailing "The brands will have a vision for what their detail sprays are for," Or rather as I see it, "how to sell different products that can accomplish the same thing to people with money to burn".
As "detailers" we are like Rabbits in the headlights a lot of the time. "Ooooooo look a nice new shiny bottle" its pretty important to have shelve upon shelve of loads of products for some. We've all done it. Take AG's new Polar Wash and Polar seal. Two new products that dont fill any gap in the market, but many will have ran straight out to Halfords and bought them. I have used AG Polar Blast at the hand wash stage and Polar Seal is really just a foam cannon version of Aquawax, they have even pretty much admitted that to me. BH Wheel Cleaner and BH Korrosol, virtually no difference in their abilities. I have Korrosol because, quite frankly, it is the best non acidic wheel cleaner I have ever used and I can use it as its designed as a fall out remover over the car. I use AG Aqua wax which I use as a QD as well as the drying aid its sold as. I used to use Gunk for all my de-greasing needs years ago, now its BH Surfex, because again its not just a de-greaser but a very flexible APC. I still have a bottle of AG HD Cleanser that I bought years ago and have still never used, its now discontinued, I wonder why? Perhaps SRP was all you ever needed?
possibly but we are also like adults, we dont have to take like the view that we are victims of a ruthless industry trying to get all our money (im not sure if your saying that, but it something i hear a lot nowadays). Its their job to convince us to buy their products, its our job to choose. Its not like they are knocking at our door trying to sell it to us, we follow the scene out of choice and interest. Best thing is for the companies to enjoy the process of offering us stuff, and for us to enjoy the process of picking stuff. Its like when it gets to the stage where you dont get enjoyment from it and you have had enough, you can just simply stop trying stuff. A pot of paste wax will last a bloke a lifetime on one car. but peeps just like to try new products. but yer I know what you mean its like getting a vast array of choice out there, at the moment we are in limbo waiting on the next "thing".
@@ForensicDetailing i like being in limbo trying to work out which product to buy next it gives me something to do lol
I wonder how the mighty ONR at 1:64 would compare?
Wonder what can do a Rinseless wash diluted with water as quick detailer
Bilt Hamber QD I think 1:20 or 1:10 advertises that function. It has the charged polymers that are supposed to reduce marring. I just dont use it that way.
Who doesn't like "nice, juicy beads?" Great video as always Jon!
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Sexy Beading
I’ll have you know that “Nointey noine” caused me to smack the SUBSCRIBE button.
Would have been nice to see how the "Bouncers" one does in this group test...
I was thinking this also seen as he voted it no1 in a previous video
‘Sexy detail sprays’ how about that sexy haircut
Lol I was thinking the same , that's one sexy cut :)
Sexy Beading
@@richlee509 sexy balding
If u didnt count hydrofobicity/longevity wich i think isnt a factor for a qd just because its a qd, wich would have won then? I think gyeons new qd is outstanding. Superglossy and feels great to the touch!
I think BH may well have won in that scenario if I had dropped the 2 areas you said from the marks. very hard. almost wish had a few guys here in the garage while Im doing this testing to get more thoughts. so damn hard this one.
@@ForensicDetailing i feel ya. But great content as always mate!
Looking forward to the snowfoam challange. Valetpro has just realesed a new foamula 1 that they say is even better than my favourite advannve neutral snow foam. Have a nice evening!
Could you do a test on Top coat F-11
Have you tried bsd diluted apex detail did it 3:1 hardly any difference between that and neat there’s a video of somone using it at 10:1 in there lance and was still beading like crazy
used it 50 50 with water and it seems strong still.... still has this sticky thing going on though.
For me the Done and Dusted that everyone raves about visibly streaked on jet black panels 🙈
I trust Jon so have bought the winner- Inf Wax RD
the key is using 2 cloths. if you try and spread and buff with just one the cloth picks up a lot of product and you can sort of drag that product around. so I have one cloth that will get like wetter with product but ill use that around the whole car to spread after its sprayed. then I have like a pile or 3-4 dry ones that ill pick the product up with. this pretty much sorts out any problems with streaky products. but I know what you mean marconorth, some peeps might just find other products are easier to work with and you can just use like one cloth for the whole car and its less important that its bone dry secondary cloth type thing. BOS I think might be the best in the test with regards to what your talking about. It is cloudy and mirky if you lay out to much. But like when your buffing it back it starts like vaping and going clear. try BOS if like how it is to use is a priority. Inf wax though is pretty easy as well so if you want more protection or beading from a detail spray thats a good choice,.
Cheers Jon. I have a Rosso Mars (Red) Lambo now and
having a 2 stage detail carried out in a few weeks followed by a Feynlab 60% self healing ceramic coating.
I think the winner of this shoot out will fit the bill nicely as the best all rounder.
May I get your car paint code please , I mean the red one.
Is it B50 or C1H
no idea mate on code but its melbourne red. factory paint job. its a really nice color actually. nice and dark in most lights but the fleck somes out and it becomes lighter in really strong light
Forensic Detailing, yes a pice of art is standing right there. I like it.
Thanks man