Virtually unheard of to not have a leak in that pos coil. The only time its not the coil is when the evc board fails or both the temp sensors fail and the system pumps down. As a trane comfort specialist we dont install them anymore cause they are high priced junk. Trane has solved 0 problems on these units.
If you properly flush and vacuum your lines on install, there should never be any TRASH in the system, unless of course the unit came off the manufacturing line without being flushed. The only reason Trane put a self adjusting metering valve in is because there is no tech in their right mind that's going to touch an aluminium weld in the field. I really wish Trane would make a unit after a panel review by real field tech's.
The coils shouldn't get dirty. The air handler should be installed correctly and the air filter should be changed on a schedule. A dirty evaporator is a symptom of bigger problem.
Just had a TAM9 installed last month. Here's a warning to anybody wanting a TAM unit. They are noisy if the return vent is directly under the unit. The unit is in my garage on a box that opens on the other side of a wall into the hall for grill. There is constant, high pitch whine from the fan motor that sounds like you're in a jet at cruising altitude. Putting the fan motor under the coil has to be one of the dumbest ideas. There is nothing to diffuse the motor sound. They installed a baffle in the return but it didn't help much. It's a beautiful unit that works well but had I been more informed about the TAM unit instead of listening to the salesman who said it wouldn't be noisy being the unit was in the garage I would have gone with the TEM unit instead.
what size is that unit .I am thinking of trane heat pump 4 ton and they want to put it in with hyperion xl or can this go with hyperion xr.outside unit xl18i
I think my door to the coil area has warped. Leaks air on both sides - had to use duct tape to seal. Is this a problem on all the plastic air handlers or just the TAM8?
These are not "plastic" air handlers.. only the doors are composite... the cabinet is actual coated metal in a lot of areas.. but regardless, the issue of the warping doors was solved years ago... if your unit is still in warranty, contact a Trane dealer and ask them to resolve the issue.
Great video.. Our company installs a lot of these. I now understand why the label that reads, "A small amount of air leaving the air handler means it working as designed" or something like that.. Our county inspectors here in NC will fail our installs if they feel any air leaving the doors. They all have to be sealed. Can you foresee any issues with that in the future?
Guess I was lucky or just had a good installation job since my mechanical TXVs (and whole systems) are 49 years old and continue to function without problems. They aren't Trane products.
You told a fib on the first time you removed the doors. You said "as you can see the door are extremely easy" to remove? NEVER! Once they are installed and the refrigerant lines are attached and the thick ass 1" insulation is covering the lines, especially on commercial units, the doors are extremely difficult to remove and tares up the insulation and almost always hard to lift up due not only the refrigerant lines, but the condensate drains and SS2 switches are in the way. Try to remove one under a house laying in water too! You engineers don't tell the whole truth, just half truths! AND the screws fall out of the clips and the plastic washers disappear and sometimes the clips fall off and now the door is taped on.
2440 sq ft house 2x6 stud walls double pane windows and 5 ft attic insulation and insulated floors in Virginia near NC border .I do not want over kill on a unit when I may sell in a year or 2
I’m going to correct you you don’t have to remove the refrigerant you can recover it in the system then when you’re done your release it back you just make an advertise for your garbage units
Alright it seems like a whole pack of good ideas. Just one question though. How do you clean the coil if you need to? Sometimes they get dirty very easily, especially if the homeowner doesn't CHANGE THE FILTER!!!
I opted for the Hyperion on a 3 ton system and it was about $350 more. I think it's worth every penny having no cabinet corrosion, protected electronics and positive pressure which keeps dirt and heat out of the coil area. Excellent design imho.
I can smell the mildew and growth through this video
Note the best evaporater coil is copper . Aluminum is very difficult to repair.8/7/2022yr
Virtually unheard of to not have a leak in that pos coil. The only time its not the coil is when the evc board fails or both the temp sensors fail and the system pumps down. As a trane comfort specialist we dont install them anymore cause they are high priced junk. Trane has solved 0 problems on these units.
Are those coils and expansion valve guaranteed for life? Where is the drain for the coil? With a positive system does air leak out?
If you properly flush and vacuum your lines on install, there should never be any TRASH in the system, unless of course the unit came off the manufacturing line without being flushed. The only reason Trane put a self adjusting metering valve in is because there is no tech in their right mind that's going to touch an aluminium weld in the field. I really wish Trane would make a unit after a panel review by real field tech's.
If the coils get dirty and the condensate doesn't make it to the drain pan, how is that going to work with the blower on bottom?
The coils shouldn't get dirty. The air handler should be installed correctly and the air filter should be changed on a schedule. A dirty evaporator is a symptom of bigger problem.
Just had a TAM9 installed last month. Here's a warning to anybody wanting a TAM unit. They are noisy if the return vent is directly under the unit. The unit is in my garage on a box that opens on the other side of a wall into the hall for grill. There is constant, high pitch whine from the fan motor that sounds like you're in a jet at cruising altitude. Putting the fan motor under the coil has to be one of the dumbest ideas. There is nothing to diffuse the motor sound. They installed a baffle in the return but it didn't help much. It's a beautiful unit that works well but had I been more informed about the TAM unit instead of listening to the salesman who said it wouldn't be noisy being the unit was in the garage I would have gone with the TEM unit instead.
Im not an insider so what's a TAM and a TEM?
Just not built like they used to be, that EEV is a mother
do the coils last longer than 2 years now? that would be a big improvement...sure is pretty though
what size is that unit .I am thinking of trane heat pump 4 ton and they want to put it in with hyperion xl or can this go with hyperion xr.outside unit xl18i
I just installed this configuration at my house. Wondering what your experience has been in 5 years if you actually went with this system. Thanks.
I think my door to the coil area has warped. Leaks air on both sides - had to use duct tape to seal. Is this a problem on all the plastic air handlers or just the TAM8?
These are not "plastic" air handlers.. only the doors are composite... the cabinet is actual coated metal in a lot of areas.. but regardless, the issue of the warping doors was solved years ago... if your unit is still in warranty, contact a Trane dealer and ask them to resolve the issue.
Mine warped on a Tam7. Didn't know it til I personally got in the crawl space. No one that did the servicing every 6 months told me.
Great video.. Our company installs a lot of these. I now understand why the label that reads, "A small amount of air leaving the air handler means it working as designed" or something like that.. Our county inspectors here in NC will fail our installs if they feel any air leaving the doors. They all have to be sealed. Can you foresee any issues with that in the future?
Is this air handler just communicating system or can be installed with non communicating heat pump
Guess I was lucky or just had a good installation job since my mechanical TXVs (and whole systems) are 49 years old and continue to function without problems. They aren't Trane products.
You told a fib on the first time you removed the doors. You said "as you can see the door are extremely easy" to remove? NEVER! Once they are installed and the refrigerant lines are attached and the thick ass 1" insulation is covering the lines, especially on commercial units, the doors are extremely difficult to remove and tares up the insulation and almost always hard to lift up due not only the refrigerant lines, but the condensate drains and SS2 switches are in the way. Try to remove one under a house laying in water too! You engineers don't tell the whole truth, just half truths! AND the screws fall out of the clips and the plastic washers disappear and sometimes the clips fall off and now the door is taped on.
2440 sq ft house 2x6 stud walls double pane windows and 5 ft attic insulation and insulated floors in Virginia near NC border .I do not want over kill on a unit when I may sell in a year or 2
I’m going to correct you you don’t have to remove the refrigerant you can recover it in the system then when you’re done your release it back you just make an advertise for your garbage units
Yeah, until that trash plugs up a feeder tube feeding a set of passes in that coil!
Alright it seems like a whole pack of good ideas. Just one question though. How do you clean the coil if you need to? Sometimes they get dirty very easily, especially if the homeowner doesn't CHANGE THE FILTER!!!
Asking for a friend.
Soooooooooo not worth the money....
I opted for the Hyperion on a 3 ton system and it was about $350 more. I think it's worth every penny having no cabinet corrosion, protected electronics and positive pressure which keeps dirt and heat out of the coil area. Excellent design imho.
Too loud
This unit is a piece of shit the aluminum can't handle the pressure bye copper coils
Junk
junk