Stephan says [ calmly] that he's been "working on this move for about four or five years and is now getting some success." That's a lesson to us all to have humility AND to not give up on a move because it doesn't work for a while, but to persevere.
I watched this a long time ago and started to test it, with success. Then when I would meet a challenge doing it, I'd come back and watch it again and find a solution and go back to it and reapply. This has become my highest percentage finish against every level, including black belt. If I can get a steady side control, I can make this work quite often. Thank you sir.
Thank you for your comment. I am a purple belt and I have been trying this move since blue belt. I can never make it work. Maybe 2 or 3 times in my life and idk if the guy just let me. Your comment is encouraging
@@TakedownBreakdown took me a decent few years to get good at this. key is in the setup and making sure the arm isnt going to be able to block you or push your head. readjusting their head is easy with the way he explained in the video. hope youve got it by now
@@prandz420 thank you for your input. I have had more success, but only against white belts. I get stuck sometimes trying to readjust their head using my body/ribs. I have improved quite a bit though
@@TakedownBreakdown it will click one day man aha. Im a purple belt too and i worked on it from white belt and i could never get it and then suddenly it just started working for me. If the setup isnt perfect i usually give up and try again since people leave themselves exposed for the choke so often in side control
I agree that the audio is a little fuzzy - it was shot guerilla style after a class. Hopefully the quality of the information makes up for the deficiencies in the audio. If we'd been in studio like for my DVDs then we would've been using boom microphones, etc.
The audio is fine! I am not distracted by minor background stuff-- here in my office where I'm supposedly "working" (haha) or in MG's academy :) I'm just enjoying the excellent instruction. Please keep it coming. And thank you both.
This is a really nice video. MG speaks softly, so a little hard to hear at some points, but definitely audible. I really like the guerrilla, impromptu feel of it. The North-South choke has become a favorite of mine, so it is far from new material for me, but I found the little details, especially about the set up very valuable. Please keep these videos coming. The are much appreciated.
This helped me SO MUCH!! My north south choked sucked big time, but i always come in the position to do it. But now i understand the choke and the technique to finish it. Marcelo is jst e genius!
I love how Marcellos presence makes everyone nervous, so nervous that Stephen tries to strangle himself at 1:25 haha, happens in a lot of other videos also
@maofas It's funny you should say that because i did start off with Judo. I have trained Judo for 7 straight years. i have only made the transition to BJJ 2 years ago. I love BJJ and i love even more the fact that Judo compliments BJJ very well.
@kanguesso If you're a poor college student, do Judo. It's usually very affordable (your college might even have a Judo club) and the groundwork is extremely similar to BJJ, it just usually doesn't get as advanced due to time limits on the ground. If you switch to BJJ later the skills you learn will transfer over.
I am in BJJ Heaven! What could be better than Kesting getting Marcello to explain his moves. I you two honestly need to collaborate on putting together a basic series with him explaining the moves and you then brake the moves down in to chunks and narrating rolls with Marcelo applying the moves in sparring. ENCORE... ENCORE... MORE....MORE!!!!
Thanks very much for this video! Been trying to fit this into my game. Managed to pull it off once or twice too :-) Was struggling with the chin though so I'm glad I re-watched this and you asked about it for me! :D
In 6:10 you can make the same choke. It s like an arm triangle but inverted. You can chocke also in this way pushing with your body his arm through his head. You take arm and neck, not only neck.
Stephan, you should have a trainingparter with you for interviews like this, would be great to have someone to show techniques on while explaining. Awesome vid anyways :)
Hey Stephan, in Gi I keep ending up in a North South position with higher belts and usually bigger guys. Mostly happens when I try to escape side control and then end up getting a face full of their chest. Do you have any tips or videos you have done or could do on how to escape as the bottom person in a North South position?
np man.. its one of my favorite techniques.. and theres a lot of set ups people never see either.. its a nasty choke if u can get it.. heres one... you have your guy in side mount and the guy reaches with his other arm to defend the americana grab around his neck with the arm that isnt under his.. drop your inside should to the floor trappin his arm there, bring your body south and he will go out or tap.. its a super tight choke
Does Marcelo bring in BB to do a seminar at his place? Seems like he does from time to time which really shows what a cool dude he is. Seriously, if you have Marcelo Garcia as your trainer, that's the best anyone could do. :)
+Big Scottius its not the movement thats the correlation to chess its the application of game theory and anticipating your opponents actions and reactions coaxing specific actions and reactions from your opponents setting traps and bait and even allowing your opponents to beat themselves to "give" you the win. although this also can be applied universally to any game (thus the name game theory) it is particularly deep and complex in both chess and jiu jitsu and more than most "games" chess and jiujitsu are both often won several "movements" in advance.
Chess is actually a great comparison. In fighting you must think like a computer, you need about 5 different ideas in your head every 2 seconds. As a gamer, I'm really lucky. I've been gaming since I was 4. Well, that's given me the ability to think before I do anything. Even when I play the UFC game I see the person doing something and about 5 different counters come to mind. When I'm sparring, it's the same. I'm always a few steps ahead. They don't need to work everytime, they just need to be there. But by no means am I anyone special, far from it, hell I'm probably the least talented guy I've ever rolled with, but to me personally, drilling something every single day makes you good.
I LOVE this choke! I used it once, but the guy had his near-side arm between my ribs and his neck. I dropped my hips and went into N/S position anyway, while dropping my shoulder into the opposite side of his neck. I ended-up doing a neck crank, while at the same time choking him, kinda like an arm triangle. We're both white belts, so it might've been dumb luck. What do you think?
He was showing how to use it on a bigger stronger person and if some's much bigger arm in chokes are hard to finish. So in a way against a bigger guy you lose the position. I'm a big fan of the reverse arm triangle also, but it can hard to hit on a really strong person. I'm not a big strong guy so I don't use it on bigger dudes I don't got the power hit it if they are not tried when they're bigger. Great tech knowledge tho for knowing the name of that. :)
@jonnyv1nj yes altho It can be done with the arm in.. all it is is an arm triangle choke from north south.. dont understand why marcelo didnt sho that and just told u to lose position.. the arm in submission is actually called the reverse arm triangle choke.. I use it all the time
@kanguesso Yes sir, but everything is more expensive in NYC. I am sure that his location is not cheap to rent and maintain. With cost of living and so on, the "NYC $220" is probably comparable to $125 in small markets.
@StephanKesting I think you might try keeping a couple dynamic microphones around. I know they kinda cost a lot, but way cheaper than condenser mics. The camera mic picks up all the sound around it, but dynamic mics have a limited range of sensitivity that naturally cuts-out a lot of the sound. They'd be a lot less expensive than your boom mic, I can tell you that much. Just a suggestion. Your videos are still off da hook! Thanks Stephan!
When I train this, at my gym. I will punch the face to get the chin through. I also get my chest lower and farther back as possible. And if the guy hasn't tapped, I will push on his shoulder with my other hand. It increases the pain dramatically. I have drilled this many times. And it does work in sparring. But I have never used it in the street, or work as a doorman. As that is why I train, and I only train things that are of use in the street or for controlling customers.
I know this is a year old comment. Sorry. But can you clarify why you wouldn't use this in street or subduing customers? For street, it seems like its leaves you relatively untangled in case you needed to get up to your feet. For customers (im assuming you mean bouncing) it seems like a good control position. Having never been in a street fight or have had to bounce, im only going by gym time. So please excuse any ignorance. Thanks!
@migraine516 Yes, but when you're known as the "Judo guy", they simply pull guard to neutralize your takedown ability unless the instructor specifically requires that no one pulls guard when we start rolling from the stand up position.
Is there any rules to these that do not allow striking or hitting when it goes into a submission contest? Just wondering, because I see a lot of way to get out of any of those choke with strike making it easier and without taking a bit more like a tug of war.
@DBKK Funny thing is, people keep telling me that it is NY and that is why it is expensive, I live in Philly and most of the good schools in my area charge about as much as Garcia does. Most schools want to charge you anywhere from $195 to $210/moth. How do you justify that?
The choke comes mainly from the hips and not the muscles. so my advice would be to find a buddy and drill it without flexing your arms, eventually you will find the sweet spot.
"Unless....he does this...then I counter like this, but then if he does this, I counter the counter, and if he then stops me with this, I just do this and then I choke him" lol
@DBKK I am just a poor collage student like many others who love BJJ. Between monthly rent, utility bills, car note, cell phone bills and college books, $220 Bucks isn't peanuts. I wish it were, but it isn't.
+JD Gamboa I don't believe it resembles a guillotine. you are using the front deltoid of your shoulder to pressure the carotid artery. A good north/south choke feels like a blood choke, and comes one quick.
Don't go too deep on the setup. Who l woulda thought? Blown away, as usual. It's like Marcelo had three extra lifetimes worth of practice. The man is like a 500TB hard drive of knowledge.
@Friendlynice It's expensive my friend. He charges $220/month for a 1 year contract. A two week pass for $150.00 and a one month pass for $235. That is one problem i have with BJJ. It feels like it is an exclusive golf club. It should really be more accessible to the average person so that the sport can really grow and explode. Even UFC featherweight champion Jose Aldo said he wanted to start his fighting career as a BJJ practitioner but he couldn't afford it. Are you serious?
well i wouldnt say that none of it is street applicable but the majority of what hes teaching is for use in bjj competition. the thing about the manouvers u mentioned is that they are all really easy to counter, and that is all stuff u learn before your a blue belt..this video is more of a specific teqnique to teach you different ways to get into this position for the choke. if u jus look up street self defence with jiu-jitsu im sure u will find a bunch of videos to deal with whatu mentioned.
kids have to get through yellow orange and green belt before they go on to blue just like any other martial art i just said i trained bjj as a kid and now i train judo. also if youre going to call anyone a liar, you should do it in a language you understand and can speak.
Well....Yeah ideally you can in a real situation...But then again if you have MARCELO of all people on top of you, whats to stop him from hitting you too?...And alot harder too since he's on top, and he's got the leverage you know?...But yeah I'd probably clock someone's jaw if they were on me too, and then try hip escape to full guard or half guard at least.At 1:48 when the arm goes around the neck, he could then hold down your arm too since now more weight is on you. Bot I get what u mean
Stephan says [ calmly] that he's been "working on this move for about four or five years and is now getting some success." That's a lesson to us all to have humility AND to not give up on a move because it doesn't work for a while, but to persevere.
I watched this a long time ago and started to test it, with success. Then when I would meet a challenge doing it, I'd come back and watch it again and find a solution and go back to it and reapply. This has become my highest percentage finish against every level, including black belt. If I can get a steady side control, I can make this work quite often. Thank you sir.
Thank you for your comment. I am a purple belt and I have been trying this move since blue belt. I can never make it work. Maybe 2 or 3 times in my life and idk if the guy just let me. Your comment is encouraging
@@TakedownBreakdown took me a decent few years to get good at this. key is in the setup and making sure the arm isnt going to be able to block you or push your head. readjusting their head is easy with the way he explained in the video. hope youve got it by now
@@prandz420 thank you for your input. I have had more success, but only against white belts. I get stuck sometimes trying to readjust their head using my body/ribs. I have improved quite a bit though
@@prandz420 actually I'm glad you commented, because I just watched the whole video again and now I can't wait to go work on this submission 😀
@@TakedownBreakdown it will click one day man aha. Im a purple belt too and i worked on it from white belt and i could never get it and then suddenly it just started working for me. If the setup isnt perfect i usually give up and try again since people leave themselves exposed for the choke so often in side control
I agree that the audio is a little fuzzy - it was shot guerilla style after a class. Hopefully the quality of the information makes up for the deficiencies in the audio. If we'd been in studio like for my DVDs then we would've been using boom microphones, etc.
Very generous of Marcelo to do that for you. He is one of the greatest of all times. What an honor.
Best quote at 5:22, "if you don't traumatize him [during first attempt]... he's going to give it you later".
Damn Marcelo Garcia has those real true martial art look. Just by looking at him his so calm but he could kill u whenever if he decide to crazy
This choke has been working an absolute treat for me the last two weeks. These videos are invaluable.
Marcelo is the most humble and genuine person....much respect🙏
Steve and marcelo in one video = gold. Love this sub.
I just want to Thank You for sending this book. I didn't realize that this link was 10years old! Vous êtes tres gentil -X-❤
The audio is fine! I am not distracted by minor background stuff-- here in my office where I'm supposedly "working" (haha) or in MG's academy :) I'm just enjoying the excellent instruction. Please keep it coming. And thank you both.
I watched the video from start to finish, you really have to have a background in BJJ and attention to detail to truly appreciate this.
Your humbleness motivates me.
Another awesome video Stephan. Marcelo Garcia is such a great technician and all round nice guy!
That's the essence of BJJ: move, counter, move, counter...it's so graceful, it's like horizontal dancing!
im only a orange/yellow belt (BJJ/Judo) and i only trained bjj as a kid but i have been on a choking spree sinse watching this video. awesome job!
This is a really nice video. MG speaks softly, so a little hard to hear at some points, but definitely audible. I really like the guerrilla, impromptu feel of it.
The North-South choke has become a favorite of mine, so it is far from new material for me, but I found the little details, especially about the set up very valuable.
Please keep these videos coming. The are much appreciated.
i digg stephans style. laid back and mellow. seems like a good teacher.
Marcelo Garcia and Stephan Kesting is such badasses and they have profound technique! Both of them want to know exactly what works!
Marcelo is a freak genius
This helped me SO MUCH!! My north south choked sucked big time, but i always come in the position to do it. But now i understand the choke and the technique to finish it. Marcelo is jst e genius!
I love how Marcellos presence makes everyone nervous, so nervous that Stephen tries to strangle himself at 1:25 haha, happens in a lot of other videos also
I love how he moves stephans arm on the last @what if your arm is in between@ part...so swift, he uses his legs like they where arms.
Marcelo the master ! School us, O great one. Much respect to you from Oklahoma City, USA.
@maofas It's funny you should say that because i did start off with Judo. I have trained Judo for 7 straight years. i have only made the transition to BJJ 2 years ago. I love BJJ and i love even more the fact that Judo compliments BJJ very well.
Thanks for this video. I'm new with grappling and I will try to work with this move.
This is so great Stephan! Thank you 🙏😊
2:07-15 is such a good detail, stabilizing the neck (position) - in order to get the choke (submission) 🤙☑
its 1 hour a night and my instructor is very good though. great detail when he speaks and tons of knowledge
@kanguesso If you're a poor college student, do Judo. It's usually very affordable (your college might even have a Judo club) and the groundwork is extremely similar to BJJ, it just usually doesn't get as advanced due to time limits on the ground. If you switch to BJJ later the skills you learn will transfer over.
Marcelo is the man!
Two of my favorite artists right there
I am in BJJ Heaven! What could be better than Kesting getting Marcello to explain his moves. I you two honestly need to collaborate on putting together a basic series with him explaining the moves and you then brake the moves down in to chunks and narrating rolls with Marcelo applying the moves in sparring. ENCORE... ENCORE... MORE....MORE!!!!
Thanks very much for this video! Been trying to fit this into my game. Managed to pull it off once or twice too :-) Was struggling with the chin though so I'm glad I re-watched this and you asked about it for me! :D
In 6:10 you can make the same choke. It s like an arm triangle but inverted. You can chocke also in this way pushing with your body his arm through his head. You take arm and neck, not only neck.
And... thanks for all your works and videos!!. Of course.
Marcelo comes across as a great patient dude
Stephan, you should have a trainingparter with you for interviews like this, would be great to have someone to show techniques on while explaining. Awesome vid anyways :)
what kind of rash guard is marcelo wearing ? thats my favorite shade of green!
I know its such a nice rashguard wish I knew what brand
Thank you! you have answered all my questions !
Marcelo Garcia seems like such a nice guy. I'd be happy to be able to train at his place some day
Marcelo uses his legs better than most use their arms
Marcelo's such a nice guy
Hey Stephan, in Gi I keep ending up in a North South position with higher belts and usually bigger guys. Mostly happens when I try to escape side control and then end up getting a face full of their chest. Do you have any tips or videos you have done or could do on how to escape as the bottom person in a North South position?
np man.. its one of my favorite techniques.. and theres a lot of set ups people never see either.. its a nasty choke if u can get it.. heres one... you have your guy in side mount and the guy reaches with his other arm to defend the americana grab around his neck with the arm that isnt under his.. drop your inside should to the floor trappin his arm there, bring your body south and he will go out or tap.. its a super tight choke
Does Marcelo bring in BB to do a seminar at his place? Seems like he does from time to time which really shows what a cool dude he is. Seriously, if you have Marcelo Garcia as your trainer, that's the best anyone could do. :)
BJJ = Chess Game
bjj >chess game
BJJ = Blitz Chess
+Big Scottius its not the movement thats the correlation to chess its the application of game theory and anticipating your opponents actions and reactions coaxing specific actions and reactions from your opponents setting traps and bait and even allowing your opponents to beat themselves to "give" you the win.
although this also can be applied universally to any game (thus the name game theory) it is particularly deep and complex in both chess and jiu jitsu and more than most "games" chess and jiujitsu are both often won several "movements" in advance.
I am a grand master of chess and that shit is fucking different bro. Thats why I got my ass kicked on the street a few times :v
Chess is actually a great comparison. In fighting you must think like a computer, you need about 5 different ideas in your head every 2 seconds.
As a gamer, I'm really lucky. I've been gaming since I was 4. Well, that's given me the ability to think before I do anything. Even when I play the UFC game I see the person doing something and about 5 different counters come to mind.
When I'm sparring, it's the same. I'm always a few steps ahead. They don't need to work everytime, they just need to be there.
But by no means am I anyone special, far from it, hell I'm probably the least talented guy I've ever rolled with, but to me personally, drilling something every single day makes you good.
my go to choke when the arm is cleared...along with darce and arm bar from the cleared arm
I LOVE this choke! I used it once, but the guy had his near-side arm between my ribs and his neck. I dropped my hips and went into N/S position anyway, while dropping my shoulder into the opposite side of his neck. I ended-up doing a neck crank, while at the same time choking him, kinda like an arm triangle. We're both white belts, so it might've been dumb luck. What do you think?
nice vid i went to one of his seminars before
@Stephan, where do you get your shorts? The look awesome.
Literally a wizard.
lucky you getting to train with MG
Thanks for posting !
He was showing how to use it on a bigger stronger person and if some's much bigger arm in chokes are hard to finish. So in a way against a bigger guy you lose the position. I'm a big fan of the reverse arm triangle also, but it can hard to hit on a really strong person. I'm not a big strong guy so I don't use it on bigger dudes I don't got the power hit it if they are not tried when they're bigger. Great tech knowledge tho for knowing the name of that. :)
awesome technique.. need to drill this now
He is so good!
@jonnyv1nj yes altho It can be done with the arm in.. all it is is an arm triangle choke from north south.. dont understand why marcelo didnt sho that and just told u to lose position.. the arm in submission is actually called the reverse arm triangle choke.. I use it all the time
1:26 Stephen chokes himself out. RIP my brother, RIP...
Jose Lima lol
Reminds me of this... LOL ua-cam.com/video/QkGVpFoRXTI/v-deo.html
@kanguesso Yes sir, but everything is more expensive in NYC. I am sure that his location is not cheap to rent and maintain. With cost of living and so on, the "NYC $220" is probably comparable to $125 in small markets.
With marcelos kind face i often wonder what a HUGE mistake it would be for any "tough" guy to go and act macho on him...
@StephanKesting I think you might try keeping a couple dynamic microphones around. I know they kinda cost a lot, but way cheaper than condenser mics. The camera mic picks up all the sound around it, but dynamic mics have a limited range of sensitivity that naturally cuts-out a lot of the sound. They'd be a lot less expensive than your boom mic, I can tell you that much. Just a suggestion. Your videos are still off da hook! Thanks Stephan!
there awesome fights too right??! great idea, i hope it catches on
Can I get the ckoke with the arm in? Sort of north south arm triangle? I'm pretty sure I've seen someone doing it
you have to trap the arm against the face so they get choked with their own shoulder on that side. similar to a darce
yup north south head and arm choke
When I train this, at my gym. I will punch the face to get the chin through. I also get my chest lower and farther back as possible. And if the guy hasn't tapped, I will push on his shoulder with my other hand. It increases the pain dramatically. I have drilled this many times. And it does work in sparring. But I have never used it in the street, or work as a doorman. As that is why I train, and I only train things that are of use in the street or for controlling customers.
I know this is a year old comment. Sorry. But can you clarify why you wouldn't use this in street or subduing customers?
For street, it seems like its leaves you relatively untangled in case you needed to get up to your feet.
For customers (im assuming you mean bouncing) it seems like a good control position.
Having never been in a street fight or have had to bounce, im only going by gym time. So please excuse any ignorance. Thanks!
I love this choke! I always catch wrestlers because they feel a half Nelson so they bridge and turn away and give me thief back good this choke:)
@migraine516 Yes, but when you're known as the "Judo guy", they simply pull guard to neutralize your takedown ability unless the instructor specifically requires that no one pulls guard when we start rolling from the stand up position.
Is there any rules to these that do not allow striking or hitting when it goes into a submission contest? Just wondering, because I see a lot of way to get out of any of those choke with strike making it easier and without taking a bit more like a tug of war.
@fiddle0509 I think he's saying that the North South choke has a higher success percentage than the Rear Naked Choke.
Eddie bravo's man crush. goddamn he's a beast
@kanguesso ..... do you find you can take down everyone in your class with relative ease?
What is the other choke that he's talking about at the 8min mark? I can't make out what he's saying
So is grabbing or gripping pressure point allow? How about point in weird spots like figure in nose or pulling the ears or pinching? Just wondering,
audio seems fine. Great vid.
@OperatorBehaviour you train in BJJ? or do you mix it all up?
@DBKK Funny thing is, people keep telling me that it is NY and that is why it is expensive, I live in Philly and most of the good schools in my area charge about as much as Garcia does. Most schools want to charge you anywhere from $195 to $210/moth. How do you justify that?
Hey, I get to the north South position a lot. But could someone please explain the squeeze in more detail?
I end up blowing my arms too often.
The choke comes mainly from the hips and not the muscles. so my advice would be to find a buddy and drill it without flexing your arms, eventually you will find the sweet spot.
Drive your shoulder down towards the floor
"Unless....he does this...then I counter like this, but then if he does this, I counter the counter, and if he then stops me with this, I just do this and then I choke him" lol
@DBKK I am just a poor collage student like many others who love BJJ. Between monthly rent, utility bills, car note, cell phone bills and college books, $220 Bucks isn't peanuts. I wish it were, but it isn't.
I could have watched it without sound, And I still would have learned something!
That airplane sound at the end surprised me. I was wearing headphones.
Thank you!
jamie varner should have watched this
awesome, thanks!
I don't see how he's getting the tap...
Is he putting pressure on his trachea - rather than carotid/s?
I pay approx 140$ a month for 3 nights a week of BJJ. is that bad?
Is the pressure on the throat or on the side of the neck (like mata leao) ?
+manuariiv Side of the neck. This is a blood choke, not a wind choke.
Thanks !
+JD Gamboa I don't believe it resembles a guillotine. you are using the front deltoid of your shoulder to pressure the carotid artery. A good north/south choke feels like a blood choke, and comes one quick.
Can you do it evem if their chin is down?
Don't go too deep on the setup. Who l woulda thought? Blown away, as usual. It's like Marcelo had three extra lifetimes worth of practice. The man is like a 500TB hard drive of knowledge.
So Marcelo garcia is Jesus is what I got from this video
He was taught by Gurgel in sao paulo Alliance gym.
@Friendlynice It's expensive my friend. He charges $220/month for a 1 year contract. A two week pass for $150.00 and a one month pass for $235. That is one problem i have with BJJ. It feels like it is an exclusive golf club. It should really be more accessible to the average person so that the sport can really grow and explode. Even UFC featherweight champion Jose Aldo said he wanted to start his fighting career as a BJJ practitioner but he couldn't afford it. Are you serious?
Saw that just before i clicked this video, he moves like water its insane
pure gold
@DBKK damn that is expensive, in new mexico i pay $125 a month for gracie barra
well i wouldnt say that none of it is street applicable but the majority of what hes teaching is for use in bjj competition. the thing about the manouvers u mentioned is that they are all really easy to counter, and that is all stuff u learn before your a blue belt..this video is more of a specific teqnique to teach you different ways to get into this position for the choke. if u jus look up street self defence with jiu-jitsu im sure u will find a bunch of videos to deal with whatu mentioned.
kids have to get through yellow orange and green belt before they go on to blue just like any other martial art i just said i trained bjj as a kid and now i train judo. also if youre going to call anyone a liar, you should do it in a language you understand and can speak.
Nice One!!!
Where is the choke? I never saw a tap..
Stephan, you're great at teaching! I subscribe to your BJJ lessons and they are always interesting :)
Very good
Well....Yeah ideally you can in a real situation...But then again if you have MARCELO of all people on top of you, whats to stop him from hitting you too?...And alot harder too since he's on top, and he's got the leverage you know?...But yeah I'd probably clock someone's jaw if they were on me too, and then try hip escape to full guard or half guard at least.At 1:48 when the arm goes around the neck, he could then hold down your arm too since now more weight is on you. Bot I get what u mean
@gekiryudojo He will be DQ from the competition.